Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[dicetosser1]

It wasn't a real question.

 

Yeah

 

It totally wasn't a real question Nolder.

 

I couldn't possibly want to know why you voted me.

 

I couldn't possibly want to try and determine your alignment.

 

I couldn't possibly be faking the same as a wolf.

 

In fact, I'm such a terrible wolf that I just hard claim scum and give up ten pages into the game. This is totally my wolf meta bro.

 

as i already said  ure a good enuff wolf to play around giving a real claim early on tho.  nothing I saw in ure Nolder interaction screams to me that ure trying to figure him out. in fact you already seem to have made your mind up about him with ure  "nols probably a villager" comment.

 

you are coming across here as really snarky  not something I attribute to you normally

[Zander?]

 

 

Current read list. The yellow ones, by way of explanation, are more null than scum but I wanted to give them a color anyway. 

 

 

Ironeyes (also known as Marsh for anyone who didn't know): The mod told me he's town...

AlaCassZam: I probably don't need to explain myself here. 

Wifi: The last game I played with Wifi was Demon's cove, where she was town and acted just like she has in this game. 

Nolder: I alluded to this in my last post but I think Nol is playing pro-town. 

Tiinker: Gut read. Not much else to back this up. 

Darthe: Seems pro-town but I'm not sure of this read. 

Dice: Where the heck is this guy? I didn't remember he was playing until I re-checked the OP. 

Pral: Not happy with how this guy peaced out after posting twice, but then again he did something similar in Demon's cove and was town. 

Kat: Nothing's caught my attention so far. 

Hellian: I debated putting him in the scum category but for the sake of him being new here I'll reserve a real read for later. 

Believer: I dunno. 

Hallia: Not too sure about this read, but she made a big deal out of a series of jokes in the beginning of day one and it seemed strange that she wouldn't notice that wasn't serious. 

Shad: As stated above, looked defensive under pressure. 

John Snow: Pops in, votes me for lame/unexplained reasons, disappears. Pingy for sure, and like I said before this reminds me of Scum!Clovdyx in the beginning of Demons Cove. He directed all of the attention toward me right from the start and not only gained towncred for it, but was able to keep the heat off of his lurky teammates. They won that game in part because of his calculated risk there. 

 

If youre a Wolf im prolly in trouble

 

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Why, cause I town read you? :confused:

 

 

No because your reads list is somewhat similar to where I am kinda at.

[BFG]

D1 Votecount

 

 

 

Shad (3): Dice, Zass, Nolder

 

Ironeyes (2): Believer, Snow

 

Not Voting (9): Darthe, Hallia, Hellian, Ironeyes, Katiora, Pralaya, Shad_, Tiinker, Wildfire Sedai

 

 

[Tiinker]

 

 

 

Current read list. The yellow ones, by way of explanation, are more null than scum but I wanted to give them a color anyway. 

 

 

Ironeyes (also known as Marsh for anyone who didn't know): The mod told me he's town...

AlaCassZam: I probably don't need to explain myself here. 

Wifi: The last game I played with Wifi was Demon's cove, where she was town and acted just like she has in this game. 

Nolder: I alluded to this in my last post but I think Nol is playing pro-town. 

Tiinker: Gut read. Not much else to back this up. 

Darthe: Seems pro-town but I'm not sure of this read. 

Dice: Where the heck is this guy? I didn't remember he was playing until I re-checked the OP. 

Pral: Not happy with how this guy peaced out after posting twice, but then again he did something similar in Demon's cove and was town. 

Kat: Nothing's caught my attention so far. 

Hellian: I debated putting him in the scum category but for the sake of him being new here I'll reserve a real read for later. 

Believer: I dunno. 

Hallia: Not too sure about this read, but she made a big deal out of a series of jokes in the beginning of day one and it seemed strange that she wouldn't notice that wasn't serious. 

Shad: As stated above, looked defensive under pressure. 

John Snow: Pops in, votes me for lame/unexplained reasons, disappears. Pingy for sure, and like I said before this reminds me of Scum!Clovdyx in the beginning of Demons Cove. He directed all of the attention toward me right from the start and not only gained towncred for it, but was able to keep the heat off of his lurky teammates. They won that game in part because of his calculated risk there. 

 

If youre a Wolf im prolly in trouble

 

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Why, cause I town read you? :confused:

 

 

No because your reads list is somewhat similar to where I am kinda at.

 

You've got Nolder as town as that??

[Ironeyes]

Da freak? Believer hasn't unvoted? Dude, it's WAY past time to leave a joke vote there. I need to move him down the list. 

[BFG]

please note a deadline has been set for 11PM (bst) Thursday, roughly 45 hours from now

[Zander?]

@ Tink

 

I have Nolder as a slight Town read

[Ironeyes]

Now that I think about it I'm happy to leave the Shad train as it is but let's have some more options. [v]John[/v]

[Cass]

 

I want to know what Shad's current read list is

 

Zander and Cass are pretty damn villagery, though I don't buy that Zander's as suspicious of me as he's been claiming lately. That or he's just learned to give me a little more space. Either way not lynching there probably ever.

Wifi can be a solid town read at this point.

Need to chew on Darthe a bit more yet but I'm continuing to hedge villa. I don't think I have a great head for what he did to fool everyone last game, and that's holding me back a bit.

Nolder's approach to me is more likely to come from his town game in my experience.

Not impressed with Hellian so far.

Terrified to even try to read you.

Don't really have a baseline with Iron.

A lot of people haven't shown back up again since early in the game.

A lot of people haven't really expressed many reads.

These things need to happen before I'm going to have a much better grasp on things.

 

 

I can follow most of this. Elaborate on me and answer the question about the early vote pleeeeeeeeeeease. My criticism is not that you're GOATWOLF it's that you haven't seemed different to me until this game.

 

Hmm. Reread pages 12-15 and Shad comes out of it looking pretty defensive. At first Nolder was looking hypocritical because he was FOSing Shad for acting without explaining himself, but refused to explain himself either. But when I asked, Nol immediately explained. Whereas Shad refused to give substantive reasoning and kept falling back to insults. This post in particular pinged me: 

 

 

You're freaking out because Zander's telling you I'm a wolf and you trust his ability to read me.

 

Zander's never read me correctly out the gate in any game ever.

 

I'll humor you later if I have the time, but I'm not particularly interested in defending myself at the moment.

 

Not interested in defending himself but spent his last like six posts on just that.

This.

 

I may have seen him talk like this Town-Town with Z once though. Will go back and check tonight unless Z can confirm/deny.

 

For me it was that he was happy to give general rhetoric but couldn't/wouldn't back it up with specifics/things I've seen him focus on in our previous games.

 

If he's Town he should become more obvious fairly quickly I think/hope.

[Shad_]

I might just give up.  This village is pretty hopeless.

[Shad_]

[v]Shad[/v]

 

I will not address any further idiotic suspicion on my slot.  I"m going to state my reads and you can all piss off.

[Shad_]

Seriously I'm just sick of it.

 

Every game I come in rolling and at least half the time if I drop early town reads or try and motivate someone to get involved or do anything to try and productively stimulate the game I find myself having to stage a defense for half the phase because obviously not being paranoid and devoid of direction is super wolfy.

 

It's annoying as hell.

 

but lol [unvote]

[Ironeyes]

Well that's not nice... We still have nearly two days. You can clear yourself and we can move on to lynching scum. 

[Zander?]

I might just give up.  This village is pretty hopeless.

 

 

[v]Shad[/v]

 

I will not address any further idiotic suspicion on my slot.  I"m going to state my reads and you can all piss off.

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

[v] Hellian [/v]

[dicetosser1]

[v]Shad[/v]

 

I will not address any further idiotic suspicion on my slot.  I"m going to state my reads and you can all piss off.

 

Right that just sorted that. You jsut made my mind up. Not moving my vote and i dont care that you unvoted ureself half a second later. 

 

 

I might just give up.  This village is pretty hopeless.

 

 

[v]Shad[/v]

 

I will not address any further idiotic suspicion on my slot.  I"m going to state my reads and you can all piss off.

 

[v] unvote [/v]

 

[v] Hellian [/v]

 

 

Why are you unvoting?

[Zander?]

Because I dont think Shad is a PoS.

[dicetosser1]

why? reasons zander. actual reasons

[Darthe]

Well that's not nice... We still have nearly two days. You can clear yourself and we can move on to lynching scum.

Wolf me would jump on this, town me thinks it's meant earnestly

[Zander?]

why? reasons zander. actual reasons

 

I thought that was self explanatory.

 

I dont see Scum!Shad pulling a b@tch move like that.

 

I can see a frustrated Town!Shad doing it tho.

[Shad_]

Because I dont think Shad is a PoS.

 

I fake AtE as a wolf all the time though. 

[Shad_]

Need to read from like six pages back because I have no idea what I've missed while I've been in and out.

 

Will ISO some people after that.

 

Aiming to avoid an all-nighter.

[dicetosser1]

 

why? reasons zander. actual reasons

 

I thought that was self explanatory.

 

I dont see Scum!Shad pulling a b@tch move like that.

 

I can see a frustrated Town!Shad doing it tho.

 

 

thats what I thought  one little ate blowup and u are off.

 

thats stupid Zander

[Ironeyes]

 

Well that's not nice... We still have nearly two days. You can clear yourself and we can move on to lynching scum.

Wolf me would jump on this, town me thinks it's meant earnestly

 

I'm just feeling sympathetic because I did something similar in my last town game (Demon's Cove) when I felt I was being railroaded

[Shad_]

Dice tunneling me for claiming wolf on page 2.

 

And people wonder why I get frustrated.

[Zander?]

 

 

why? reasons zander. actual reasons

 

I thought that was self explanatory.

 

I dont see Scum!Shad pulling a b@tch move like that.

 

I can see a frustrated Town!Shad doing it tho.

 

 

thats what I thought  one little ate blowup and u are off.

 

thats stupid Zander

 

 

its not even the AtE as it is the self vote itself.

 

im pretty sure i recall a chat with Shad before about self voting and how awful it is.

 

its ok because i do stupid zander things all the time.