Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[dicetosser1]

len im NOT getting lynched

 

 

vote Rey

 

cant really make a case on it  its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off

 

 

znader has a point about that train   gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

[Lenlo]

len im NOT getting lynched

 

 

vote Rey

 

cant really make a case on it its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off

 

 

znader has a point about that train gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

Everyone says they are not gonna get lynched. Not gonna stop me.

 

Your refusing to vote those two after saying they have to be resolved today?

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Turin (1/7): Zander

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Lenlo, Hallia

Dice (1/7): Eldrick

Alanna (1/7): Tsuki

Rey (1/7): Dice

 

 

Not voting

 

(4)- BFG, Niniel, Shad, Alanna

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

Zander is at L-2

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

[dicetosser1]

 

len im NOT getting lynched

 

 

vote Rey

 

cant really make a case on it its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off

 

 

znader has a point about that train gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

Everyone says they are not gonna get lynched. Not gonna stop me.

 

Your refusing to vote those two after saying they have to be resolved today?

 

 

yep.  I dont think anythings really been resolved. I cant point at one and say i think that one is scum. Zanders reactions havent been great but i dont like that EVERY vote went against him. its not THAT clearcut 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I'm off to bed. Nanight :)

[Turin Turambar]

What about Rey's last post felt awful?

 

What questions do you still have regarding me and zander?

[dicetosser1]

i cant put my finger on it turin. like i said it makes me feel bad about him.

[Reyoru]

i cant put my finger on it turin. like i said it makes me feel bad about him.

Of course it made you feel bad, I said I thought you were scummy and that we should come after you next after Zander.

 

Incredible reasoning here. 

 

[Lenlo]

 

 

len im NOT getting lynched

 

 

vote Rey

 

cant really make a case on it its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off

 

 

znader has a point about that train gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

Everyone says they are not gonna get lynched. Not gonna stop me.

 

Your refusing to vote those two after saying they have to be resolved today?

 

 

yep.  I dont think anythings really been resolved. I cant point at one and say i think that one is scum. Zanders reactions havent been great but i dont like that EVERY vote went against him. its not THAT clearcut 

 

I disagree. Turin is in a much better position then Zander imo, the evidence brought against Zander while not damning is a good amount. The treatment of the role is odd. As for nothing really being resolved, what made you switch from one of those two has to die today, they are the lynches, to you refusing to lynch either of them? You say you dont like how every vote went against him yet not every vote has. Infact it looks to be stalling out, rather then picking up speed like you would expect if this was a townie lynch. Wolves would want to make it happen.

 

Now thats not grounds to add to the case against Zander, the fact that its stalling doesnt say anything new or credible about him imo, but it does counter your point that because every vote went against him he is probably town.

[Eldrick4221]

There are a surprising number of references of Zander referring to his own game as "being within his scum range". His early read on dice is because he doesn't see his own game as being town. This doesn't sound to me like something town would be thinking about.

[Shad_]

Let me phrase it this way, do you think Scum!Zander posts in the QT secretly, then at the SAME time starts posting in the thread if im trying to really NOT let him know who I am?

 

Or is it more likely to come from Town!Zander being paranoid and seeing what what was what and feeling things out, I stopped because I decided I was gonna do the back and forth because nothing could be proven the QT and it wasnt something I was gonna bother with

 

Which seems more likely to you?

First paragraph, fair enough when you put it that way. I can humor that the decision to drop your guise came before Turin figured out who you were. This idea that your QT couldn't be useful because it was not public is still weird.

[Lenlo]

 

 

Let me phrase it this way, do you think Scum!Zander posts in the QT secretly, then at the SAME time starts posting in the thread if im trying to really NOT let him know who I am?

 

Or is it more likely to come from Town!Zander being paranoid and seeing what what was what and feeling things out, I stopped because I decided I was gonna do the back and forth because nothing could be proven the QT and it wasnt something I was gonna bother with

 

Which seems more likely to you?

 

Yes, because posting in a QT and someone else posting in chat around the same time has never happened before. Thats a weak argument. Why the secret name is what gets me. In what way does the other person knowing its you harm you? Its not a lover, they cant kill themselves to get you, its nothing. If you were right that it was a T/W chat, the towny shouldnt care because they know they are town. The only one worried about that would be a wolf. Imo, very few towns have anything to hide.

[Shad_]

His case is on nothing but the QT crap.

Turin has QT access and either uses it to further develop a read on you or fakes the same. You have QT access and avoid it/call it crap/get upset that he's bringing it into the main thread discussion. Do you see why this looks better for Turin than for you?

[Eldrick4221]

 

I have a strong read for Turin as Town, and Zander as Town/Third Party

Town!Turin loves to thunderdome when he a) is town, and b) he genuinely believes he has scum in his sights. I've had him come at me before like that (as scum, lol).

Zander is flailing too much, haz 2 much feelz, for me to find him scummy. I have to believe that someone in his QT would have told him to chill, if he had one.

 

Eldrick, what question did you want me to answer?

 

It's not important anymore. After Turin mentioned he was referring to himself about the "towniest town to town", I went back to wondering why you only got on Rey's case about it. But I have since realized that if I was confused about it, you could have been too.

 

 

 

Okay. How did you realise it was Zander. Did he say his name after a while?

How did you know it was anonymous?

 

 

This is the first post where Turin mentions it. It´s before the post where he claimed. He had said it since also. How could you miss it?

 

 

I don't know how I missed it, but I did. Your mention of it was the first one I noticed, so it stuck out to me as being weird. Thank you for clearing that up.

 

Eldrick says that Zander comparing his town game to his scum game is a town thing? Um, why?

 

I honestly don't remember. It doesn't anymore.

 

len im NOT getting lynched

 

 

vote Rey

 

cant really make a case on it  its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off

 

 

znader has a point about that train   gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

 

 

 

len im NOT getting lynched


vote Rey

cant really make a case on it its just a feeling. his last post felt awful and there have been a couple of times ive felt like something was off


znader has a point about that train gonna not vote either him or turin and see what the na's shake out

Everyone says they are not gonna get lynched. Not gonna stop me.

Your refusing to vote those two after saying they have to be resolved today?

 

 

Lenlo beat me to it about asking dice about this. Lenlo's points about this ring true. Dice was all about lynching between Zander and Turin today.

 

Now that people are voting for Zander, he has changed his stance. Drawing votes quickly does NOT make someone town. Why are you suddenly unwilling to vote him?

 

As for seeing what the NAs shake out, why weren't you willing to do that earlier? Even after the cop claim, you were against the idea. Now that Zander is looking like he's gonna be the lynch, you are suddenly all about alternative options.

 

This defense of Zander looks really bad, and if Zander flips scum, I think dice is a teammate.

[Eldrick4221]

[unvote]

 

[v]Zander[/v]

[Lenlo]

[unvote]

 

Slow down abit. Im content to have him at L-2. We have 6 days, as much time as that is, to much imo, we might as well use some of it.

[Lenlo]

I want other people to weight in on this. 

 

For the record im all for Zanders lynch, I just dont want it ninja hammered.

[Eldrick4221]

I can respect that.

 

My vote is between Zander and dice today.

[Eldrick4221]

I've liked your play so far, Lenlo.

[Lenlo]

What a coincidence, so do I.

[Eldrick4221]

I feel like Zander's flip could be very telling about dice's alignment.

 

If Zander and dice are both scum, turin is almost assuredly town. I don't see a scenario where they try to pull this off as a scum team, cuz as soon as one of turin/zander gets lynched, it all falls apart.

[Eldrick4221]

My only hangup about this is why Zander got on Dice's case about the "easy read" on him if they are teammates. Feels like a weird thing to do to distance that early.

[Lenlo]

If Zander flips scum, Turin is already almost assuredly town. No wolf team plays a gambit that almost guarantees one of them dies while leaving the other open to all sorts of suspicion should the survive to long. 

 

Dice I feel is a wolf separate from the Zander thing. Hes been very defensive and reactionary this game.

[Eldrick4221]

If Zander flips scum, Turin is already almost assuredly town. No wolf team plays a gambit that almost guarantees one of them dies while leaving the other open to all sorts of suspicion should the survive to long. 

 

Dice I feel is a wolf separate from the Zander thing. Hes been very defensive and reactionary this game.

 

Unless Zander flips and isn't Neighbor.

[Lenlo]

Yes, that is one outcome that would look very bad for Turin.