the Hunt for the Dragon Reborn [Standard Mafia] Game Over town wins

[Sooh]

 

Seriously?

 

You're already patting people who come to the same conclusions as you on the back and telling them they are good. I'm not a performing monkey and I will make the exact amount and content of posts as I wish to this game. Judging from previous experiences with you I'll get FOSes anyway if I make reads that differ from yours, so I'm just not going to make the effort. 

 

I'll share my thoughts when I have them, but I won't put down an iota of more energy than that this game just for your town stamp. It's not that important to me.

 

 

All i asked was for you to show me I was wrong.

 

I didnt tell you what to do and said Id take time to try and figure you out.

 

THis response was way over the top imo.

 

And the AtE is reading frustrated Towny cause I really havent pushed you that hard, nor have I tunneled on you and Im currently voting Dice...

 

Wait, what? Did you just call me towny?

[Cory Caboose]

Sooh for sure off that list of miscreants. Non-game related accusations so far is all that is out there.

 

I get you don't like the argument against her.

 

What specifically makes her a villager though? What has she done that makes you feel that way.

[Sooh]

 

Dice could very well be scum from what he has chosen to engage in so far, but I would kind of like to ease up the pressure on him and let him have the chance to contribute on something else before condemning him. 

 

AFAICT we've pretty much stopped discussing Dice as we wait for him to return, but there are 24 hours left in this day phase. I think we'd love to hear from him, but the last time he was here was post-pressure and not good.

 

Do you have a read on me yet?

 

I have a town read on you.

 

And it wasn't an accusation per se, it's just that when he was last here, all he could do was defend himself.

[Calder]

 

 

Calder whats your methodology?

What exactly do you mean? Broad question.

I expected a broad answer. How do you hunt, how do you hide, etc

I don't hide. I tell you I'm scum and dare you to lynch me.

 

How do I hunt? I wait until night and dispatch the weak.

[Cory Caboose]

My problem with dice in general is that with ~20 pages he was apparently reading enough to get into an inane argument about Zander's read on Sooh but didn't care to comment on literally anything else.

It was painful for me to watch him go @ Nomi hard for being on an alt account in the Matrix games as his wolfbro and have to step in and defend him despite him doing basically nothing else.

 

It was painful for me to watch him go at Zander here for basically the same thing for something basically not game-related.

 

Except I don't have to defend him this time 

[Shad_]

 

 

 

 

Shad has a bit of an "eager puppy" vibe going on right now, and he hasn't to my knowledge taken any stances on anyone. This makes me suspicious of him.

Why?

 

It just does. It's a slight red flag which may or may not lead to anything substantial, but I wanted to mention it.

 

It's kind of important to me for you to articulate why. We have a lot of experience together and just wrapped up a w/w game. The "eager puppy" bit is fine. I need to know why lack of stances is concerning from your POV.

 

It was early game, and it was something I picked up regarding you. It's not a condemnation, it was just something I felt was noteworthy in that I know you make your opinion known quite freely and you give good analysis of players. Perhaps it was too early for that? It's just something I wanted to keep in mind going forward.

 

Well, ok. The comment surprised me because when we scummed together last month my willingness to take a stand on things in the first 24 hours was a huge factor in people clearing me at lylo despite a lurky late game. I'm not going to hold you too terribly accountable for conflicts with that game, because god knows I ignore my scum mates more often than not, but it did stand out as something I would expect you to regard as null.

[Calder]

 

Sooh for sure off that list of miscreants. Non-game related accusations so far is all that is out there.

 

 

I get you don't like the argument against her.

 

What specifically makes her a villager though? What has she done that makes you feel that way.

Passionate bordering on upset posting I find comes from townies far more often than from scum. Those lynches fail so much more than they succeed in games I have played. So while her play is null for me, those initial posts throw me towards townie.

[Sooh]

I don't object to that, Cory, and I know that's a major tell on Dice. I just would like to see if he can turn it around. If he can't, I'll happily place my vote there. Right now I feel his chances of being a wolf are only slightly better than rand.

[Cory Caboose]

Understood Calder

[Cory Caboose]

I don't object to that, Cory, and I know that's a major tell on Dice. I just would like to see if he can turn it around. If he can't, I'll happily place my vote there. Right now I feel his chances of being a wolf are only slightly better than rand.

 

The lynch decision falls to you through weird voodoo magic.

 

Who do you want to lynch the most?

[Calder]

I am more of a patterns guy myself though to try and define it. Have played a lot of poker and I function it like a matching game. Night kill comes through and that knocks out more suspects for me than individual posts would.

[Cory Caboose]

Turin having 29 posts and Darthe having 131 posts is baffling to me and does not make any sense as to my read of the thread.

 

Those numbers have to be in error.

[Zander?]

 

 

Sooh for sure off that list of miscreants. Non-game related accusations so far is all that is out there.

 

I get you don't like the argument against her.

 

What specifically makes her a villager though? What has she done that makes you feel that way.

Passionate bordering on upset posting I find comes from townies far more often than from scum. Those lynches fail so much more than they succeed in games I have played. So while her play is null for me, those initial posts throw me towards townie.

 

 

 

The thing is tho Calder is the non game related stuff shes passionate about was wrong factually.

 

She in all the chats and such and she knows what me and Cory carry on like both in Mafia and away, 

 

Thats why its bothersome to me.

[Sooh]

 

I don't object to that, Cory, and I know that's a major tell on Dice. I just would like to see if he can turn it around. If he can't, I'll happily place my vote there. Right now I feel his chances of being a wolf are only slightly better than rand.

 

The lynch decision falls to you through weird voodoo magic.

 

Who do you want to lynch the most?

 

No clue atm. Not you, Zander, Turin, Tina or Hallia. 

[Shad_]

General point with 10 pages unread behind me: bursts of emotion over non-game-related issues are non-game-related, for the most part.  See Dice in Matrix, me in WE, etc.  You have to be careful about context on these things.

[Hallia]

Why,me, Sooh?

 

Cory, for an answer, I say Darthe likeliest town because of my last catch up post reasons

[dicetosser1]

Oh and before I forget:

 

And why would I think Zanders a wolf for that?

 

Can you explain why #155 arrived at this then?

 

that vote is complete crap and i think you know it

 

Because that looks like "Zander is pushing a bad case intentionally" which coming from you almost always means "I think Zander is a wolf pushing a mislynch".

 

What some people in the biz call "throwing shade".

 

 

 

@ Dice

 

Its BECAUSE Sooh knows me and Cory away from the game that it bothers me, hence the vote.

 

You also know Im not gonna remove my vote because Im asked/told to.

 

I also know that you should because its actually the right thing to do.

 

I know u outside the game to and sometimes ure bromance annoys me as well   you gonna vote me now?

 

outside the game is outside the game  her opinion is about something that occurs within games and which she has an opinion on so you should be sticking to in game stuff

 

that vote is complete crap and i think you know it

 

 

Thats post 155

 

so im not sure im totally understanding what you are saying/want but i will try

 

the Red is not DICE speaking   thats Wayne pure Wayne. Thats my morals talking. He didnt vote her for game reasons he voted her because she knows you and him outside the game. Thats bad play and something I think is wrong. Is neither scummy nor towny is just wrong. And i think Zander knows its wrong.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

Sooh for sure off that list of miscreants. Non-game related accusations so far is all that is out there.

 

I get you don't like the argument against her.

 

What specifically makes her a villager though? What has she done that makes you feel that way.

Passionate bordering on upset posting I find comes from townies far more often than from scum. Those lynches fail so much more than they succeed in games I have played. So while her play is null for me, those initial posts throw me towards townie.

 

 

 

The thing is tho Calder is the non game related stuff shes passionate about was wrong factually.

 

She in all the chats and such and she knows what me and Cory carry on like both in Mafia and away, 

 

Thats why its bothersome to me.

 

It is not factually wrong!

 

You're still reading that second part of the post as directly related to you blue-ing Cory, aren't you? It's not! It was in relation to all the buddying and villabroing and patting backs that happened in the beginning. Not your (jokingly I guess) clearing Cory. 

[Sooh]

Why,me, Sooh?

 

Cory, for an answer, I say Darthe likeliest town because of my last catch up post reasons

Because currently I trust Cory and your play so far reminds me of your town game. I reserve every right to reverse this read later on.

[Cory Caboose]

Dice: understood.

 

But I need you to make some reads.

[Shad_]

 

Why,me, Sooh?

 

Cory, for an answer, I say Darthe likeliest town because of my last catch up post reasons

Because currently I trust Cory and your play so far reminds me of your town game. I reserve every right to reverse this read later on.

 

 

At a glance this looks more like a town!Sooh thing to say.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Calder whats your methodology?

What exactly do you mean? Broad question.

I expected a broad answer. How do you hunt, how do you hide, etc

I don't hide. I tell you I'm scum and dare you to lynch me.

 

How do I hunt? I wait until night and dispatch the weak.

 

Does anyone who knows Calder agree with this?

[Hallia]

Then why do you say you would lynch me?

[Zander?]

@ Dice- No Zander doesnt know it was wrong because I dont feel like it was.

 

 

@ Sooh- Ill go back and reread it and re evaluate after.  Im voting Dice today and barring something crazy my votes not moving.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Shad has a bit of an "eager puppy" vibe going on right now, and he hasn't to my knowledge taken any stances on anyone. This makes me suspicious of him.

Why?

 

It just does. It's a slight red flag which may or may not lead to anything substantial, but I wanted to mention it.

 

It's kind of important to me for you to articulate why. We have a lot of experience together and just wrapped up a w/w game. The "eager puppy" bit is fine. I need to know why lack of stances is concerning from your POV.

 

It was early game, and it was something I picked up regarding you. It's not a condemnation, it was just something I felt was noteworthy in that I know you make your opinion known quite freely and you give good analysis of players. Perhaps it was too early for that? It's just something I wanted to keep in mind going forward.

 

Well, ok. The comment surprised me because when we scummed together last month my willingness to take a stand on things in the first 24 hours was a huge factor in people clearing me at lylo despite a lurky late game. I'm not going to hold you too terribly accountable for conflicts with that game, because god knows I ignore my scum mates more often than not, but it did stand out as something I would expect you to regard as null.

 

I don't get how people are wolf reading you with this sort of thing.