[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Zander?]

Need to get more from Thane here as well.  Its D2 now and I know its the weekend and people said they'd be away but need to get things figured out and this is not helping matters at all.

[Hallia]

As I've explained regarding him all along; his gameplay.  His arguments have made sense, I feel that he's been trying to explain himself as best as is possible.  I unvoted Len at the moment, because I'm considering what I want to do.

 

There's not a ton from Verb, but I do think he's suspect after the way he went for Yates initially.  I also would like more from Thane.  I find him suspect, because he pops in and says how he has lots of nulls, twice, and well, I find that suspect.

[Andrej]

AJ can you expand on your Leelou read?

 

As well as what made you change your view from Tina early on who you said was a train you could get behind as well as your switch on Nolder who you said used faked Confusion/Derp as Scum?

Firstly I never had Nolder as a scum read. I said his derp bothered me because I know he does it as scum, but the way he went at me I don't think scum!Nolder would do. That was like one of the first things I said when I started posting again on the morning of EOD1. You know, one of those stances you accuse me of not making lol

 

If you read Tina's ISO I think conclusion is pretty obvious. Like do your work, bro. You keep complaining that no one has posted so you can't evaluate them but there's plenty of content in ISO if you bothered to look. Have you even been reading Tina's posts as of late? She's super towny.

 

Leelou is sort of POE. I have a couple of players that are really townie, some that are marginally, and she's left out in the cold. she doesn't have a ton of content but I don't particularly like what I saw when she was posting. How she was questioning Dice about making tone/gut reads or grilling Hallia because of her "joke" read on Yates. She's focused on the wrong stuff imo but we'll see when she gets back.

[Andrej]

Hallia

Tina

Verb

Thane

 

Nolder

Turin

 

Leelou

Lenlo

Zander

 

More or less where I'm at. If I'm wrong on anyone in my bottom three I would need to look at Turin/Nolder again. Zander kinda has me second guessing myself tbh. Pretty confident that my top 3 at least are definitely town, Thane is just one of those leaps of faith type reads. He's unconventional and his play style this game is such a slap in the face I can't help but think he's a villager with that kind of swagger.

[Andrej]

If Nolder is scum then he obviously hid behind his tunnel on me D1 to avoid doing anything else. I would like actual reads from him sooner than later and not just NK spec.

 

Turin kinda vanishes which always makes me nervous but he does seem really level headed and reasonable most of the time. His suspect list I'm not the biggest fan of atm. Hallia and Thane are kinda easy targets for scum reads. Will need to see what he comes back with when he returns.

[Andrej]

I'd also like Lenlo to give his reads on both me and Zander since he's apparently decided we are the only two getting lynched today in the event we turn out to be v/v.

[Andrej]

Today was awesome btw

 

I'm still at my in-laws but I can pop in here or there until I go to bed.

[Lenlo]

I'd also like Lenlo to give his reads on both me and Zander since he's apparently decided we are the only two getting lynched today in the event we turn out to be v/v.

Never said that buddy. Just said I felt you two needed to be resolved today.

 

As for you two ive been thinking it over. There are problems with both of you. Loads of them. Id like it if someone else got in and gave me someone not involved to bounce off of.

[Andrej]

I took resolved as "lynch" so I guess that's my bad.

 

This is all probably a bunch of townie violence and the real scum is like Leelou/Turin/Nolder exactly. I would die.

[Andrej]

Not sure how else to resolve outside of lynching though, fwiw so I don't think I was really stretching there.

[Andrej]

Also, outside of me and Zander where are you with everyone else?

[Lenlo]

Not sure how else to resolve outside of lynching though, fwiw so I don't think I was really stretching there.

You werent reaching all that much, no. 

[Lenlo]

Verbal

Tina

Turin

Hallia

 

Leelou

Nolder

 

Thane

 

AJ/Zander - One of you is a wolf, I can feel it. I just gotta figure out which.

[Andrej]

I'm a bit torn on Zander.

 

I feel like this game is kind of reminiscent of the Diablo one where he was mostly town read except for Yates, who called him scum after Zander started to suss him. Except in this game it's me using my personal knowledge of my alignment to see Zander's scummy read and Yates telling me he's townie. Ironically enough, scum!Zander's team killed me N1 after town reading him much like Yates just got offed.

 

I think there are discrepancies with his read progression as far as his suspects go and with me coming out hard at the beginning of the phase I made it easy for him to vote me in return. He's putting up a lot of fight though, which makes me second guess myself but I also know that he did similarly in Diablo even after Yates claimed to have peeked him as a wolf.

 

I know I'm town. If he's town that would suck a lot and I think that would point to the sideline players on the roster.

[Andrej]

Verbal

Tina

Turin

Hallia

 

Leelou

Nolder

 

Thane

 

AJ/Zander - One of you is a wolf, I can feel it. I just gotta figure out which.

Could you give some reasons? Even just a couple lines for each would be good.

[Zander?]

 

AJ can you expand on your Leelou read?

 

As well as what made you change your view from Tina early on who you said was a train you could get behind as well as your switch on Nolder who you said used faked Confusion/Derp as Scum?

Firstly I never had Nolder as a scum read. I said his derp bothered me because I know he does it as scum, but the way he went at me I don't think scum!Nolder would do. That was like one of the first things I said when I started posting again on the morning of EOD1. You know, one of those stances you accuse me of not making lol

 

If you read Tina's ISO I think conclusion is pretty obvious. Like do your work, bro. You keep complaining that no one has posted so you can't evaluate them but there's plenty of content in ISO if you bothered to look. Have you even been reading Tina's posts as of late? She's super towny.

 

Leelou is sort of POE. I have a couple of players that are really townie, some that are marginally, and she's left out in the cold. she doesn't have a ton of content but I don't particularly like what I saw when she was posting. How she was questioning Dice about making tone/gut reads or grilling Hallia because of her "joke" read on Yates. She's focused on the wrong stuff imo but we'll see when she gets back.

 

 

I didnt say you didnt take any stances just soft ones that seem to leave you an out.  Usually I expect stronger reads from you is all.  Why dont you think Scum!Nolder would go at you like that?

 

Im not saying she is or isnt.  You thought she was a good train at one point iirc.  Just was wondering what in particular you were seeing,

[Zander?]

Hallia

Tina

Verb

Thane

 

Nolder

Turin

 

Leelou

Lenlo

Zander

 

More or less where I'm at. If I'm wrong on anyone in my bottom three I would need to look at Turin/Nolder again. Zander kinda has me second guessing myself tbh. Pretty confident that my top 3 at least are definitely town, Thane is just one of those leaps of faith type reads. He's unconventional and his play style this game is such a slap in the face I can't help but think he's a villager with that kind of swagger.

 

About me?

 

Thane's been making more confident reads lately he did so in his last 2 games one in which he was Town and the other as Scum.  As most people know hes usually someone who gets figured out as the game progresses but I need to see a lot more from him no matter what.

 

I dont hate your top 3 fwiw atp pending what everyone comes back with.

[Zander?]

I'd also like Lenlo to give his reads on both me and Zander since he's apparently decided we are the only two getting lynched today in the event we turn out to be v/v.

 

Ya me too with some reasoning on both.  But that goes for everyone not just Lenlo.

 

 

 

I'd also like Lenlo to give his reads on both me and Zander since he's apparently decided we are the only two getting lynched today in the event we turn out to be v/v.

Never said that buddy. Just said I felt you two needed to be resolved today.

 

As for you two ive been thinking it over. There are problems with both of you. Loads of them. Id like it if someone else got in and gave me someone not involved to bounce off of.

 

 

How else besides lynching would we be resolved today?

[Zander?]

Verbal

Tina

Turin

Hallia

 

Leelou

Nolder

 

Thane

 

AJ/Zander - One of you is a wolf, I can feel it. I just gotta figure out which.

 

 

Can you give us some reasoning on each please?

[Zander?]

I'm a bit torn on Zander.

 

I feel like this game is kind of reminiscent of the Diablo one where he was mostly town read except for Yates, who called him scum after Zander started to suss him. Except in this game it's me using my personal knowledge of my alignment to see Zander's scummy read and Yates telling me he's townie. Ironically enough, scum!Zander's team killed me N1 after town reading him much like Yates just got offed.

 

I think there are discrepancies with his read progression as far as his suspects go and with me coming out hard at the beginning of the phase I made it easy for him to vote me in return. He's putting up a lot of fight though, which makes me second guess myself but I also know that he did similarly in Diablo even after Yates claimed to have peeked him as a wolf.

 

I know I'm town. If he's town that would suck a lot and I think that would point to the sideline players on the roster.

 

It made it easy for me to vote you?  Dude you were a suspect going into today.  So no i dont agree with that. 

 

What discrepancies?  Like explain to me the difference in our read progressions?  I havent even did an updated reads list yet AJ.  SO im wondering what it is youre trying to say here.

[Zander?]

I am pretty concerned that this game has really just turned into just me, AJ, Lenlo and Hallia for the most part.  Its making it hard to really discern who all the wolves are.

[BFG]

Votecount

 

Zander (1/6): Andrej

 

AJ (1/6): Zander

 

 

Not Voting (8): Hallia, Leelou, Lenlo, Nolder, Thane, Tina, Turin, Verb

 

No change

[Turin Turambar]

Back from weekend, catching up now.

[Lenlo]

Ill get reasons in the morning, Zander there are a number of alignment revealing abilities in the 2nd post of the thread.

[Niniel]

Nothing new since I went to bed.

 

Mods - could we get an extension?