[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Sooh]

 

@Nyn - What you say is not untrue. I'm poking around looking for inconsistencies, half truths or manipulations. If I'm given a reasonable explanation or pointed to evidence that I missed then I retract my pokes. 

 

How is what I said untrue if I've yet to decide if what you're doing is legitimately poking around?   

 

Bolded a bit.

[Nynaeve]

Ok. Well again this would be a false alarm.

 

And no I have nothing to say about that other stuff.

I explained why I felt weird about Eldrick, did Alanna?

I already addressed my opinion on Pral more than once now. Don't really care what you think about it tbh.

 

Lets cut the crap. Give me your current reads.

[BFG]

 

Sooh, you here?

Am now.

Have you managed to read through yet?

[Eldrick4221]

I'm going to get some breakfast so you'll have to look up Lily's thing yourself Zander or wait until I come back.

 

Eldrick for the record your unvote doesn't make me feel any better about the misrep.

It wasn't supposed to, but it was my main reason for voting you, so I'm not anymore.

[bgrishinko]

 

@Nyn - What you say is not untrue. I'm poking around looking for inconsistencies, half truths or manipulations. If I'm given a reasonable explanation or pointed to evidence that I missed then I retract my pokes. 

 

How is what I said untrue if I've yet to decide if what you're doing is legitimately poking around?   

 

I think you read that wrong. I'm agreeing with you that your analysis of what I'm doing is largely correct. 

[Sooh]

 

 

Sooh, you here?

Am now.

Have you managed to read through yet?

 

No, I got distracted. Had to do some work planning lessons tomorrow.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

@Nyn - What you say is not untrue. I'm poking around looking for inconsistencies, half truths or manipulations. If I'm given a reasonable explanation or pointed to evidence that I missed then I retract my pokes. 

 

How is what I said untrue if I've yet to decide if what you're doing is legitimately poking around?   

 

Bolded a bit.

 

 

 

Thanks, Sooh. I misread that. 

 

BG I get that it could be one explanation to what you're doing and I've acknowledged that. But despite the nudging I elaborated on... you landed on Thane for calling someone 99.9% town and an issue you took with his confusion at the votes early on... which I still don't quite understand. Can you try to maybe explain a bit better what bothered you about that? 

[Nynaeve]

I think you read that wrong. I'm agreeing with you that your analysis of what I'm doing is largely correct. 

 

Yeah, my bad.

[bgrishinko]

Blargh. Can't remember how to ISO, is it just searching the name in this Topic? I thought there was a better way.

[Eldrick4221]

Hey Eldrick :)

 

Thoughts on Nyn, Laine, Sooh?

Working on a reread while waiting for meds to kick in. Came across this again. And I have to wonder what you were expecting me to have thoughts on already.

[Nynaeve]

Blargh. Can't remember how to ISO, is it just searching the name in this Topic? I thought there was a better way.

 

While in the thread, click the magnifying glass on the top right of the page, without entering any text in the box. It will take you to an advanced search. Put in the username in search by user. Make sure you spell it correctly, otherwise it won't find any posts. Click the ascending row to put the posts in the right order. Otherwise it's messy.

[BFG]

 

Hey Eldrick :)

 

Thoughts on Nyn, Laine, Sooh?

Working on a reread while waiting for meds to kick in. Came across this again. And I have to wonder what you were expecting me to have thoughts on already.

They'd all commented on Zanders you/lily post

[BFG]

 

 

 

Sooh, you here?

Am now.

Have you managed to read through yet?

No, I got distracted. Had to do some work planning lessons tomorrow.

Ok how long before we can talk?

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Hey Eldrick :)

 

Thoughts on Nyn, Laine, Sooh?

Working on a reread while waiting for meds to kick in. Came across this again. And I have to wonder what you were expecting me to have thoughts on already.

They'd all commented on Zanders you/lily post

Oh. That makes a lot more sense. They were calling me awkward and forced for it.

 

I'm awkward, and didn't have a response for that. Didn't affect me view on them.

 

Still not getting the "my posts feel forced" thing, and didn't know how to bring it up. What exactly is that supposed to mean? Nothing is forced. I say what I think.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

 

I'll spoiler this, just to avoid the HUGE WoT that's coming:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

the voting done by people... i'm still trying to figure out what happened and what triggered it....

 

Any success?

 

for me, not really, no. I've read over it a few times, but it still makes my head hurt. I'll definately look back at it once we have a flip or two though, maybe it'll all come together then.

 

Something about the whole Lily exchange with Zander, Nolder voting Lily for it and unvoting her with just an explanation from her. And, Alanna being dragged into it by Sooh. There is definitely a bad one in this exchange,

definately? don't know. But highly possible. But, as said above, i think it's a good thing to look back after some flips. Then it'd make more sense.

 

Day 1 is a whole 'nother ball game when you don't know people's meta. It's kind of refreshing actually. 

 

 

 

what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

 

This is a question that needs answering. Also high five on the avatar. 

 

I like Sooh's approach here. She doesn't know anything about me or my meta. So she pokes at me to learn more. Day 1 is all about the subtle pokes and seeing how people react. Underreactions and over reactions are the only meat we really have to go on. 

 

@Turin - I noticed the same soft claim thing but was kind of sitting on it to see if Zander was going to bring it up again or make a big deal out of it again. It always is fishy to me when people bring up claims so early either way, but not knowing meta wasn't sure what to make of it.

 

I think I'm willing to [v]Zander [/v] for now for this reason. Good as any at this point.

 

bolded: I did answer, and came back to it earlier this post.  purple: agreed, but there's subtle poking and poking with jackhammers. Both give reactions, surely, but poking with jackhammers is extreme. 

 

 

BFG / BG avis are killing me. I demand BFG switch back.

 

I'll be back, I need a shower because I'm gross.

It's worse because BFG's avi is a G clef, while BG's is an F clef

 

someone knows their music *approves*

 

 

Do we always get into real content this quickly on DM now.

 

I miss the foreplay

 

It used to be all fun and games D1 and maybe half a day of 'real play' just before DL. Those times are seemingly dead and buried indeed. But, in this game, i like the lower postcount mixed with high content. It makes games fun and easier to read.

 

Loving the avis for this game

Personally, they confuse me... but i'll manage.

 

 

Player Roster:

 

1. Turin

2. Zander

3. Sooh

4. Nolder

5. Laine

6. Nyn

7. Pral

8. Eldrick

9. Lily

10. Thane

11. BGrishinko

12. BFG

 

These were dark times, alright, but the Winchesters were used to it. With good friends, good weapons, and more stubbornness than was natural, they would rid the world of the demons who terrorized innocent people. The only problem was, they could look like anyone. It was time to do some hunting.

 

It is now Day One! A deadline has been set for Thursday, February 4^th at 1pm. (I fly out at 5pm, so I wanted to make certain I would be here.)

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Open for interpretation?

 

the bolded? mods put anything in there, and i don't know if they hint at anything in their opening posts. Anything is open for interpretation, but if it would do any good? I dunno. Mods will mod

 

Clearly not. Just not directly with what I was paying attention to, apparently.

 

My bad. [unvote]

 

Back to trying to sleep.

Eldrick confirmed not paying attention, lol

 

Probably lookin something like this:

 

Alanna

Zander

BFG

Turin

Thane

bgrishinko

Pralaya

Nyn

Lily

Nolder

Sooh

Eldrick

 

If you want explanations, I'm just going to YOLO really quick. I've explained my thoughts on Zander, even with his changes I believe he is town, but I probably wouldn't lynch him today regardless because I want more of a sample from him. Anyways, he's town slotted. BFG is feeling more BFG than in Clov's game, which is a strange thing to say but I wasn't really reading her as town last game and here I am feeling a lot better about her. Turin has been providing thoughts and I've mostly liked what he's had to say, I've also enjoyed his pushes and the reasoning behind them. Thane is skating by on his early excitement, but I want MOAR to get a stronger read either way. BG would be my weakest town read since it's based purely on gut at this point, so we'll see what happens there as well. Of course Pralaya is purely null- I don't see any extra activity from him even with a smaller page count so I'd really like for him to get in here and give us his thoughts. Nyn is null for me as well, there are some things I'm looking for from her which I haven't seen so I don't feel comfortable calling her town. Lily is there for her vote thing, Nolder for his, and an overall weirdness. Plus Nolder is pinging for trying to buddy me and an overall gut-scum feeling. Sooh is all over the place and it's frustrating because I don't know what is due to sickness or what could be scummy, so I'll wait for her to improve. She definitely doesn't feel like town!Sooh at this point. Eldrick is different from his normal weird and not in a good way. I agree that some of his posts feel forced and he seems to be posting more jokes than content at this point when I would prefer the opposite especially when some are making an extra effort to tone it down.

Actually, not a bad list at all. I'm here at this point:

 

Thane

Turin

Alanna

BFG

Zander

bgrishinko

Nyn

Pralaya

 

 Sooh

Lily

Nolder

Eldrick 

 

 

The order would be "most likely to be town to least likely to be town" at this point. I'm really liking Turin so far. Zander,  who i am slowly starting the figure out (the lolololol-guy was easier to read imo, but whatever), is in the town pile for now. Though early softclaiming and all, not really a fan of it. Eldrick, at this point, looking worst of all. Nolder's play gives me a little tingle when reading it. not going to put him to the townie folk, slight wolfie lean. all the other people? If you're black, i still need some time to figure you out, so you're null, for now. You're green without comment? I like the tone and/or gameplay so far

 

 

 

 

I'll be around some, working this night (been nearly 2 years since i had my last nightshift, ugh)

 

 

 

Thane can you elaborate more about your reads on Turin, Sooh and Nolder please?

 

 

Just caught up but it is time for bed.

 

I will say that I still completely disagree with Z regarding his character claim. Despite the wording of the op there is NO GUARANTEE any character is town. the was a similar game on one of these themes shows where one brother was town and one was an SK I believe. So no.

 

Alanna, what caused you to switch Thane and BG? I believe a short time ago you said Thane was your weakest town read bit in your list you have Thane above BG. I don't remember anything recently to cause the change.

 

Good night all.

 

So do you think I'm scummy because of the claim or are you really just talking about nothing?

 

 

I think it is scummy to keep trying to push to clear yourself through things that don't really clear you. You are pushing that you MUST be town. Newsflash: you aren't MOD confirmed as town in this game. That you keep trying to shove it down everyone's throat sits wrong with me. I don't see a good town reason to do this.   Just be town and people will believe you are town. 

 

Your line above here is agro and makes me feel worse about you. Basically there is only one very specific thing you can do to take yourself out of my wtl pile for today. 

 

 

+1

[Zander?]

It would be nice to start seeing some reads lists with reasons soon from everyone.

 

Still some people that Id like to see more from: Lily, Thane, Pral.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

Sooh, you here?

Am now.

Have you managed to read through yet?

No, I got distracted. Had to do some work planning lessons tomorrow.

Ok how long before we can talk?

 

I don't know exactly. I have to make dinner, but I can try to read while I do that.

 

Give me two-three hours? I know I'm being vague, but I get distracted fairly often.

[bgrishinko]

Thanks Nyn. Here's all Thane's game related posts.

 

 

what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

 

Odd thing to say with no context given at all. 

 

 

 

 
what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

the voting done by people... i'm still trying to figure out what happened and what triggered it....

 

 

Got called on it. Explains. I missed this post the first time around, but it still doesn't explain why the "insanity"

 

I'll spoiler this, just to avoid the HUGE WoT that's coming:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

the voting done by people... i'm still trying to figure out what happened and what triggered it....

 

Any success?

 

for me, not really, no. I've read over it a few times, but it still makes my head hurt. I'll definately look back at it once we have a flip or two though, maybe it'll all come together then.

 

Something about the whole Lily exchange with Zander, Nolder voting Lily for it and unvoting her with just an explanation from her. And, Alanna being dragged into it by Sooh. There is definitely a bad one in this exchange,

definately? don't know. But highly possible. But, as said above, i think it's a good thing to look back after some flips. Then it'd make more sense.

 

Day 1 is a whole 'nother ball game when you don't know people's meta. It's kind of refreshing actually. 

 

 

 
what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

 

This is a question that needs answering. Also high five on the avatar. 

 

I like Sooh's approach here. She doesn't know anything about me or my meta. So she pokes at me to learn more. Day 1 is all about the subtle pokes and seeing how people react. Underreactions and over reactions are the only meat we really have to go on. 

 

@Turin - I noticed the same soft claim thing but was kind of sitting on it to see if Zander was going to bring it up again or make a big deal out of it again. It always is fishy to me when people bring up claims so early either way, but not knowing meta wasn't sure what to make of it.

 

I think I'm willing to [v]Zander [/v] for now for this reason. Good as any at this point.

bolded: I did answer, and came back to it earlier this post.  purple: agreed, but there's subtle poking and poking with jackhammers. Both give reactions, surely, but poking with jackhammers is extreme. 

 

 

Clearly not. Just not directly with what I was paying attention to, apparently.

My bad. [unvote]

Back to trying to sleep.

Eldrick confirmed not paying attention, lol

 

Probably lookin something like this:

 

Alanna
Zander
BFG
Turin
Thane
bgrishinko
Pralaya
Nyn
Lily
Nolder
Sooh
Eldrick

 

If you want explanations, I'm just going to YOLO really quick. I've explained my thoughts on Zander, even with his changes I believe he is town, but I probably wouldn't lynch him today regardless because I want more of a sample from him. Anyways, he's town slotted. BFG is feeling more BFG than in Clov's game, which is a strange thing to say but I wasn't really reading her as town last game and here I am feeling a lot better about her. Turin has been providing thoughts and I've mostly liked what he's had to say, I've also enjoyed his pushes and the reasoning behind them. Thane is skating by on his early excitement, but I want MOAR to get a stronger read either way. BG would be my weakest town read since it's based purely on gut at this point, so we'll see what happens there as well. Of course Pralaya is purely null- I don't see any extra activity from him even with a smaller page count so I'd really like for him to get in here and give us his thoughts. Nyn is null for me as well, there are some things I'm looking for from her which I haven't seen so I don't feel comfortable calling her town. Lily is there for her vote thing, Nolder for his, and an overall weirdness. Plus Nolder is pinging for trying to buddy me and an overall gut-scum feeling. Sooh is all over the place and it's frustrating because I don't know what is due to sickness or what could be scummy, so I'll wait for her to improve. She definitely doesn't feel like town!Sooh at this point. Eldrick is different from his normal weird and not in a good way. I agree that some of his posts feel forced and he seems to be posting more jokes than content at this point when I would prefer the opposite especially when some are making an extra effort to tone it down.

Actually, not a bad list at all. I'm here at this point:

 

Thane

Turin

Alanna

BFG

Zander
bgrishinko
Nyn

Pralaya

 

 Sooh
Lily
Nolder
Eldrick 

 

 

The order would be "most likely to be town to least likely to be town" at this point. I'm really liking Turin so far. Zander,  who i am slowly starting the figure out (the lolololol-guy was easier to read imo, but whatever), is in the town pile for now. Though early softclaiming and all, not really a fan of it. Eldrick, at this point, looking worst of all. Nolder's play gives me a little tingle when reading it. not going to put him to the townie folk, slight wolfie lean. all the other people? If you're black, i still need some time to figure you out, so you're null, for now. You're green without comment? I like the tone and/or gameplay so far

 

 

 

 

I'll be around some, working this night (been nearly 2 years since i had my last nightshift, ugh)

Most noteworthy post. Still doesn't explain the "insanity" but writes it off. His reads at the end feel like a summed up list of other people's already stated opinions. 

 

I can, yes.

 

ohh... 

 

wait a sec... 

 

you want me to? Ok, that works:

 

Overall, i like Turin's involvement in the game. Questioning, poking, investigating. He's 99.9% town imo this game. When questioned, he does try to explain, in his best way, the point he wanted to make. 

Sooh: I don't know. I can't point a finger and say 'town' or 'wolf'. I'll give her some time to get better and perhaps I'll be able to read her better later on in the game.

Nolder: As i said, it's a feeling at the back of my mind when reading his posts this game. Spidey sense, sorta. It's not a full blown wolf-accusation yet, but he's on my radar for now

Me no likey 99.9% post. Sooh and Nolder are both hand-wavey "pay no attention to my lack of  real opinion" moves.

 

 

 

Thane, can you please expand on all these reads?

 

I wish i could. I explained what reads i had in my post. The problem i have is the same as in every single game i play in: i need a flip, or two, to start connecting dots. I dislike D1, cause it's more or less shooting blind. I work with tone a lot early game. Also, i just had 3 hours of sleep after working all night, and I need coffee right now.

 

@Turin: I'd say it would be normal if I interact with the people I am online with at a certain time of day. Unfortunately, I can't stay awake 24/7 and interact with everybody. Sorry about that. *hands a cookie*

 

People linking Laine and Zander.... As far as I can tell, they interact well every single game they play in together, so I don't know if that would be a scumtell for either of them to be honest. The fact that players are commenting on it is interesting and should be kept in mind for a later stage in the game.

 

I'm not fit today, and have some errands to run (silly paperwork andpick up my new cosplay outfit) Feel like a trainwreck so probably not as active today. Trying to stay awake to not mess up my biorhythm completely is hard.

 

 

Feel bad for the off hours, but never use real life as an excuse for poor play unless you gotta drop out or you won't be around for a day or two. Stresses of life often make it easier for people to screw up in thread as they aren't thinking about it as hard. Mafia will avoid posting much to not screw up. Town will generally still give opinions. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thane, can you please expand on all these reads?

I wish i could. I explained what reads i had in my post. The problem i have is the same as in every single game i play in: i need a flip, or two, to start connecting dots. I dislike D1, cause it's more or less shooting blind. I work with tone a lot early game. Also, i just had 3 hours of sleep after working all night, and I need coffee right now.

@Turin: I'd say it would be normal if I interact with the people I am online with at a certain time of day. Unfortunately, I can't stay awake 24/7 and interact with everybody. Sorry about that. *hands a cookie*

People linking Laine and Zander.... As far as I can tell, they interact well every single game they play in together, so I don't know if that would be a scumtell for either of them to be honest. The fact that players are commenting on it is interesting and should be kept in mind for a later stage in the game.

I'm not fit today, and have some errands to run (silly paperwork andpick up my new cosplay outfit) Feel like a trainwreck so probably not as active today. Trying to stay awake to not mess up my biorhythm completely is hard.

The order would be "most likely to be town to least likely to be town" at this point. I'm really liking Turin so far. Zander, who i am slowly starting the figure out (the lolololol-guy was easier to read imo, but whatever), is in the town pile for now. Though early softclaiming and all, not really a fan of it. Eldrick, at this point, looking worst of all. Nolder's play gives me a little tingle when reading it. not going to put him to the townie folk, slight wolfie lean. all the other people? If you're black, i still need some time to figure you out, so you're null, for now. You're green without comment? I like the tone and/or gameplay so far

The above are your stated reasons, except they're not reasons saying you like Turin isn't a reason for liking him...

Would it surprise you if I told you that in the 5 games I ISOd last night that you have never had completely unreasoned leans Day 1 as town except GnD which you basically didn't play till end Day 2 and this includes games you were clearly struggling Toledo up?

Ok though, can you expand your read on Eldrick? He's scummiest for you, why?

 

I'm trying what i can this game, with the crazy schedule I have at work this week. Early shift, late shift, night shift in 3 days.It's messing with me, and i hope I'lll improve when i get a more regular pace at the job. It wouldn't surprise me, no.  But, i saw people posting their leans, didn't fully agree with them and felt like sharing my leans this game so people would (hopefully) know how I was feeling about the players.    

 

For Eldrick, without quotes: I don't like the tone of his game so far. I've mentioned him not paying attention twice (?) and I feel he's quite selective, if that makes sense. My spidey senses are tingling when I re-read his posts. Something is wrong here, but it'd be hard for me to point out a single or multiple posts at this point.

 

More hand wavey talk.

 

Turin: I remember something about you commenting on me interacting with your top scum reads. Found it, it's in your reads list:

 

"10. Thane- mafia. I see all sorts of interaction between him and others I am suspicious of. Z and Laine have him as too high on their lists IMO. Eldrick may have spewed him maf. Plus his reaction to Eldrick and then my vote on him feels a bit of the same "don't engage and hope it goes away" that mafia will use on early votes. My only real concern is that it may be a case of mafia leaving him for a later mislynch. "

 

If your wolf leans are on when I am, and they're the only ones I could interact with.... I just wonder how that would automatically make me mafia too. It raises a few question marks in my little mind, if you can understand.

 

Asynchronous Game format. You can interact with people who aren't online. Just takes longer.

 

Anyway, overall, looks like someone backseating it, maintaining a somewhat low profile and piggy backing on other leads.

[Nolder]

 

 

The reason for voting Pral was hellibad as well.

 

I don't think he ever voted Pral

 

 

Thats correct.  The reason why he wanted to or wouldnt let into his Town Core.

 

 

 

Weird in what way??

 

OMG so far this is like one of the most boring and average games I've played in a year or two.

Maybe that's why...idk. Can you and Alanna both be more specific with what's "weird" about me?

 

 

Weird as in weird....I dont think Im the only person whose described your posts this way either.

 

The i dont get it. i dont understand posts, some of which dont seem all the complicated to understand.imo.

 

The reason for voting Pral was hellibad as well.

 

Youre not making much if any sense really with most of your posts.  The only thing really holding me back on you atp was the fact I was wrong about you last game and I want some more to base a solid read on you from.

 

Weird as in weird. Uh huh.

And then you proceed to use reasoning used by other people.

Great post Zander. 10/10 town action right there. /s

 

 

How about you hit a 1/10 town action post first before criticizing someone else.  Im also pretty sure I was the 1st one to call your posts weird fwiw.  I also used more then just weird to describe you so theres also that.  I did mention as well I wanted to ISO you first when asked about it yesterday/last night.

 

Nice excuses.

[Nolder]

 

I'm going to get some breakfast so you'll have to look up Lily's thing yourself Zander or wait until I come back.

 

Eldrick for the record your unvote doesn't make me feel any better about the misrep.

 

 

Nope I'll wait for you to try and prove your own point against me.

 

I didn't have a point. I was saying that your post illustrated Lily's point about meta.

[Nolder]

 

Ok. Well again this would be a false alarm.

 

And no I have nothing to say about that other stuff.

I explained why I felt weird about Eldrick, did Alanna?

I already addressed my opinion on Pral more than once now. Don't really care what you think about it tbh.

 

Lets cut the crap. Give me your current reads.

 

No.

[Nolder]

 

I'm going to get some breakfast so you'll have to look up Lily's thing yourself Zander or wait until I come back.

 

Eldrick for the record your unvote doesn't make me feel any better about the misrep.

It wasn't supposed to, but it was my main reason for voting you, so I'm not anymore.

 

Ok.

[Nolder]

I'm liking Nyn and Turin for town at this point. 

 

Alannalynn is bothering me. I feel like she's directing all this attention to me BECAUSE I directed attention to her. I don't like it. It's OMGUSy. And where I come from explaining your own meta as in "I wouldn't do that as scum" or "I always do this as town"  is scummy. ANYBODY can change their meta. She's my scummiest read so far, although I still don't like Zander's "joke" and put him in second place. 

 

Vote Laine

 

 

By the way, my kitty seems to be doing a little better. I'm taking him to the vet tomorrow for fluids, although he is drinking a little now. But he's 11 years old and could use the help. Thanks for all your kind words. 

Zander this was only a few pages ago did you just not read this or what?

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm always selective. I have the habit of reading things that affect me directly (people addressing or mentioning me, things I read that are weird) more closely than how people interact with each other. Seeing me as scummy for doing so may be why I come off as scummy so often, but it's probably not going to change.

 

 

 

 

Guess that runs in the family. I do the same thing. 

[Zander?]

 

How about you hit a 1/10 town action post first before criticizing someone else.  Im also pretty sure I was the 1st one to call your posts weird fwiw.  I also used more then just weird to describe you so theres also that.  I did mention as well I wanted to ISO you first when asked about it yesterday/last night.

 

Nice excuses.

 

 

The word youre looking for is facts.

 

#thewordsarehard