[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

Sooh · January 19, 2016

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.
lol! So much this!

+1

Which means what?

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

This assessment of Zander is brought to you by Pizza: When Zander is town he's like a dog on the freeway barking at every car that passes. Every one must hear his MIGHTY ROAR!!!!

So you're reading him town for it?

It adds to the rest of what I already said about him as town, yes.

Zander? · January 19, 2016

You used my Charisma and "Force of personality" as your defense against me and reasons for sussing me in Matrix Len...

Nothing youve been saying has made me feel any better about you.

o_O

Zander

You and Lenlo were scum mates in Matrix.

WHAT DOES THAT MATTER???!!

He used as a reason to suss me and his defense against the Town sussing him in Matrix and is doing the same thing here,

This point you and Len are saying is because you were teammates you cant take his Scum Meta into consideration. I completely disagree.

When you hard bus team mates, do you point to things they've done that were actually scummy, or do you, as a rule, always make up random crap?

I look for the same things as I do as Town.

Exactly. Weren't you accusing Lenlo of applying the same arguments against you that he used in Matrix? Or did I misunderstand that?

Yes I was. Hence why I brought it up.

Zander? · January 19, 2016

Tbh, as per page now I feel like there isn't much to be gained by looking at the Zander train in terms of wagonomics. It's an ungrounded joke vote train that built in the early hours of D0 with background in sign ups. Placement on the train and such I feel is less informative here than say when coming up on an actual lynch, however reactions from it are interesting and certainly kickstarted this Day.

So, breakfast thoughts coming up:

This is D0. The only time I've seen D0 before is when there are trigger alignments. Considering everything the mods have said about balance changing and stuff AND the color of the PM being purple (half red and half blue), perhaps we're all vanilla?

(I fully expect Zander to jump on me for saying this though)

In any case, I doubt that Zander is scum and I will take back what was indeed a joke vote at the beginning of the game [unvote]

Going out to do things though. I'll be back in a few hours. Then I should be in real time until lynch.

I disagree with that assessment.

So what's your assessment of the wagonomics?

That no one seems to be factoring in how quickly it built, how long people were on it and obv the fact there has to be wolves on it imo. And ofc that there wasnt a counter wagon for most of the beginning.

BFG · January 19, 2016

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.
lol! So much this!

+1

Which means what?

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

This assessment of Zander is brought to you by Pizza: When Zander is town he's like a dog on the freeway barking at every car that passes. Every one must hear his MIGHTY ROAR!!!!

So you're reading him town for it?

It adds to the rest of what I already said about him as town, yes.

Which brings the question back to Lenlo... what does Zander +1ing mean for his alignment?

Shad_ · January 19, 2016

The bottom there. Only person in the town to analyze it correctly? Does that mean there are people outside the town doing that? Who are they and how do you know them?

This reads poorly to me.

Also still all for the Zander lynch. I'm not convinced and if I let him go, the odds of him getting lynchef go down dramatically

First part, huh?

Second part, have you ever seen scum!Zander take a lot of heat D1 and not die by D2?

BFG · January 19, 2016

Tbh, as per page now I feel like there isn't much to be gained by looking at the Zander train in terms of wagonomics. It's an ungrounded joke vote train that built in the early hours of D0 with background in sign ups. Placement on the train and such I feel is less informative here than say when coming up on an actual lynch, however reactions from it are interesting and certainly kickstarted this Day.

So, breakfast thoughts coming up:

This is D0. The only time I've seen D0 before is when there are trigger alignments. Considering everything the mods have said about balance changing and stuff AND the color of the PM being purple (half red and half blue), perhaps we're all vanilla?

(I fully expect Zander to jump on me for saying this though)

In any case, I doubt that Zander is scum and I will take back what was indeed a joke vote at the beginning of the game [unvote]

Going out to do things though. I'll be back in a few hours. Then I should be in real time until lynch.

I disagree with that assessment.

So what's your assessment of the wagonomics?

That no one seems to be factoring in how quickly it built, how long people were on it and obv the fact there has to be wolves on it imo. And ofc that there wasnt a counter wagon for most of the beginning.

Last time I saw a train build up this quickly, based on a joke outside of thread, with no counter, it was town driven (on town), mafia were conscious of how joining would look

monstrman · January 19, 2016

Manbat you still here?

I am now

Sup?

Also I reagree with myself from before

Think Zander is flipping town here

Sooh · January 19, 2016

Tbh, as per page now I feel like there isn't much to be gained by looking at the Zander train in terms of wagonomics. It's an ungrounded joke vote train that built in the early hours of D0 with background in sign ups. Placement on the train and such I feel is less informative here than say when coming up on an actual lynch, however reactions from it are interesting and certainly kickstarted this Day.

So, breakfast thoughts coming up:

This is D0. The only time I've seen D0 before is when there are trigger alignments. Considering everything the mods have said about balance changing and stuff AND the color of the PM being purple (half red and half blue), perhaps we're all vanilla?

(I fully expect Zander to jump on me for saying this though)

In any case, I doubt that Zander is scum and I will take back what was indeed a joke vote at the beginning of the game [unvote]

Going out to do things though. I'll be back in a few hours. Then I should be in real time until lynch.

I disagree with that assessment.

So what's your assessment of the wagonomics?

That no one seems to be factoring in how quickly it built, how long people were on it and obv the fact there has to be wolves on it imo. And ofc that there wasnt a counter wagon for most of the beginning.

Well, in my opinion the fact that it built quickly stemmed from the sign ups more than anything. As for how long people stayed on it they will have to explain themselves. There may be wolves there, as the odds are good there are in any random group of five in this game, and they may have joined the train as an opportunity for a mislynch, but personally I can't see any good way of determining that from looking at the train alone. Perhaps when we get a couple of flips it will be more interesting to look back. At least for me I don't see any value in dwelling on that wagon right now.

Zander? · January 19, 2016

Zander, your catch-us making me go bug eyed. I think I'm ISOing here first.

ok

Morning all!

If I switched to anyone,not currently going to, it would be Snow. On D0, I'm happy anyone is talking about any actual gameplay at all. And you're voting Eld over it? Me no likey.

Why Snow?

What dont you like about people voting Eld?

I didn't say people voting Eld. I said Snows reasoning.

I misread it my bad,

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

I ask why when i want reasons/explanations seems like a basic concept does it not?

Calder · January 19, 2016

I have to agree with my scum friend manbat. Save Zander.

Sooh · January 19, 2016

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.
lol! So much this!

+1

Which means what?

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

This assessment of Zander is brought to you by Pizza: When Zander is town he's like a dog on the freeway barking at every car that passes. Every one must hear his MIGHTY ROAR!!!!

So you're reading him town for it?

It adds to the rest of what I already said about him as town, yes.

Which brings the question back to Lenlo... what does Zander +1ing mean for his alignment?

I don't really understand your question here, or what you're looking for.

monstrman · January 19, 2016

I have to agree with my scum friend manbat. Save Zander.

I might harm you.

Hallia · January 19, 2016

@BFG - I didn't officially say, but I will now: I do have a town lean on Eld, barring a re-read focusing on him. At work on mobile, so that probably won't happen until I get home
Ok thanks, do you have any reason to be suspicious of Zander other than his claim?
As I said, it wasn't the claim itself that I had a problem with. It was the manner in which he went about it. The tone of the whole pm color thing clearing him without a doubt when as Cory said, it doesnt. I don't like it at all, it,feels very fake to me.

But Cory mentioned that AFTER i did what youre saying. Does that no factor into your assessment of it and reasons for why or why not please?

Sure he mentioned it after, but like he said: duh. It is common practice to give sample role PMs to avoid just what you tried to do.

Zander? · January 19, 2016

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

Are you guys serious. My percentage of Game Related Post with substance vastly outweighs anything else. Do you feel that this would be alignment indicative.

Also the fact you both know Im catching up doesnt factor in.

Or perhaps if people listed reasons for stuff perhaps i wouldnt ask as much....

:rolleyes:

Turin Turambar · January 19, 2016

MODS, current VC please?

Hallia · January 19, 2016

To me, it feels like you're going *skip content, skip content, Quote post why, skip content skip content*

Hallia · January 19, 2016

Not posting YOUR thoughts. Which reads like avoiding giving reads.

Clovdyx · January 19, 2016

Vote count!

Zander - 4 - Lenlo, csarmi, Hallia, Turin
alannalynn - 1 - Nolder
Eldrick - 5 - Shad, John Snow, manbat, Zander, Dicetosser1
BFG - 1 - Pralaya

Phase change in exactly one hour!

Side note: Cory GOATClov knower.

BFG · January 19, 2016

Groups aren't in a fixed order

Dice

Csarmi

Laine

Sooh

Turin

Hallia

Lenlo

Shad

This is my current problem zone, but I don't really feel all the mafia are in here :/

Manbat

Zander

(Thane)

Calder

Snow

Pral

Nolder

Eldrick

Biggest arghs are Manbat and Zander and to a lesser extent Lenlo and Shad, they switch groups every time I move

dicetosser1 · January 19, 2016

im here and catching up

Calder · January 19, 2016

I have to agree with my scum friend manbat. Save Zander.

I might harm you.

That's nice dear.

dicetosser1 · January 19, 2016

clov u missed my vote on eldrick

jic i screwed it up\

vote eldrick

Zander? · January 19, 2016

Wait a second...this just occured to me in my reread but Im pretty sure Len Town read me in WoW...i THINK he CLAIMED he had some inkling I was Scum there. But this pretty much would debunk his claim that he knows how to read as he claims I am Scum!Zander imo.
Alright assuming I did town read you, how does that in any way destroy my read on you? Your trying to invalidate my read not combat it. It's scummy as hell dude.

Dude YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD READ ME BETTER THEN MOST. I disproved this theory and you call it scummy??? Thas a joke. Also you were town reading me most of Diablo as well when I was Scum iirc. So ya SORRY I DOUBT YOUR CLAIM YOU CAN READ ME WHEN ITS BEEN PROVEN YOUVE BEEN WRONG MORE THEN YOURE RIGHT!!!

You say I feel off or wasnt #FULLZANDER.

And ofc Im gonna invalidate your read when its invalid FFS!!!

Zander? · January 19, 2016

It seems he's giving the illusion of being involved without trying.

Im had to stop myself from posting what I wanted to but as EITHER alignment I put more effort into games then the vast majority....Dont EVER accuse me of not trying again please.

Sooh · January 19, 2016

Groups aren't in a fixed order

Dice

Csarmi

Laine

Sooh

Turin

Hallia

Lenlo

Shad

This is my current problem zone, but I don't really feel all the mafia are in here :/

Manbat

Zander

(Thane)

Calder

Snow

Pral

Nolder

Eldrick

Biggest arghs are Manbat and Zander and to a lesser extent Lenlo and Shad, they switch groups every time I move

I just arranged mine:

Zander

Csarmi

Len(ore)lo

BFG

Dicetosser1

Calder

Shad

Alannalynn

Monstrmanbat

Jon Snow

Nolder

Turin Turambar

Thane Vakarian

Hallia

Eldrick

Pralaya

First nine pretty towny, last three slightly scummy, however, I recognize that within my bottom three are two people who have a history of being easy mislynches and Hallia who I have trouble reading.

[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

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