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[Advanced] Nightmare Before Christmas - Town Wins!

Leelou

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BFG Spam Master

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Also if you are guessing SK, who do you think the SK is?

Seems obvious on the surface, but my reads have been pretty bad this game so /shrug

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BFG

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Anyway, I just started my holiday XD so I should probably go and do Christmases stuff and build my nieces wig-warm and that kind of thing

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Leelou

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You had a restless night with thoughts of conspiracies running through your mind. Oh no! Are you becoming Myndrunner??? Quickly, you shake your head and clear your thoughts. You notice the sun is rising and you go to join the group. Everyone seems elated, BFG is dead. You go to turn to your buddy, when you realize he is missing. Saddened, you find Lenlo’s body lying amongst the bushes...but there was something strange about him...he has bugs crawling all around him...

 

BFG - Lock - Roleblocker - killed N3

Lenlo - Oogie Boogie - Gambler - killed N3

 

Town has won! 

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Leelou

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Roles and night actions

 

town - wins when all threats to town eliminated 
2 - Zander - Jack - vanilla
7 - Snow - Sally - voyeur 
6 - NotBob - Dr. Finklestein - inventor — gets one toy randomly per night to hand out - toy duck - view, flying vampire - gun, shrunken head - bpv
9 - Dice - Mayor of Halloween Town - vanilla
5 - Laine - Santa Claus - vanilla
3 - Nol - Witch - tracker
12 - Thane - Vampires - doctor
10 - Pizza - Clown with a Tear Away Face - vanilla

solo - wincon - wins if in the final 3
4 - Lenlo - Oogie Boogie - gambler - can randomly get one of a list of NAs to perform that night. Kill, Capture (hold someone prisoner one night - they can’t use NA), Redirect

scum - wins with majority 
11 - BFG Lock - role block
1 - AJ - Shock - goon
8 - Tab - Barrel - bulletproof vest

 

N1
Inventor - flying vampire (gun) - Pizza --> success
Tracker - Shad --> stayed home
Doctor - Len --> success

Gambler - Redirect - Tab --> Dice - no actions

Role block - Shad --> success
Kill - (AJ) Zander --> success

 

N2
Inventor - toy duck (view) - Lenlo --> success
Tracker - AJ --> NotBob
Doctor - NotBob --> success
Flying Vampire - Shad --> fail (Pizza was going to submit this, but he was RB'd and Killed) 

Gambler - kill - Pizza --> success

Role block - Pizza --> success
Kill (AJ) - NotBob --> fail

 

N3
Inventor - flying vampire (gun) - Dice --> success
Tracker - BFG --> Thane & Lenlo
Doctor - Shad --> fail
Toy Duck (view) - Nolder --> town

Gambler - kill - BFG --> success

Role block - Thane --> success
Kill - Lenlo --> success

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Askthepizzaguy

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Pizzaguy's (traditional) postgame postmortem.

 

Fun game. Really fun.

 

Lousy D1 by me, as is more the norm than my recent streak. *nods, then has PTSD flashbacks from some of those...*

 

I can't read people if they're not here and trying to solve, but excuses, excuses. Still, I got some good town-reads that day. Overall, I'd give myself a B+ for pulling it out after D1.

 

1) Called John Snow town all of day one, with reasons, number 2 townie during d1. Check.
 
2) Called Zander town, put him as my number 2 townie by end of d1 after JS died. Check.
 
3) Nailed Dicetosser as town literally all game long. Seriously the easiest read of the game. Check.
 
4) Had Shad as top townie all the way to end of day 2. I shot at him N2 for safety reasons, juuuuust in case he was deepwolfing and Andrej was trying to get the vig and scan directed away from Shad by going "hey! I'm guilty!", which is the only way Andrej's play makes any kind of sense. And Shad had been asking for Andrej to be scanned or shot as well. Hilariously, this misfire was blocked by the wolves.

5) Got myself town-read by every townie in the game by either day 1 or day 2, and the dead townies also had such a lean. Nailed that aspect. Check.
 
6) Post 1135 Actually names Lenlo as a serial killer candidate (see description in spoiler). I got a very non-mafia but not-town vibe from him. Third party survivor with killing ability who shot me, close enough for government work to call that a SK. Check.
 
7) Post 1135 Also names BFG as top scum candidate, before any flip on Taborline happened, and explains why, lean is 100 percent confidence, no one else reached that level all game. Post 1336 seals the deal because it cites an example of the specific nervous guilty behavior I've seen before, and explains why BFG is behaving that way. BFG probably always gets lynched before game ends based on this, since it is persuasive to several persons. Post 1524-1530 is basically a thing of beauty, and 1530 names the exact scum team. Check.
 
8) I don't think I ever gave AndreJ a town lean all game. I had him as mildly scummy d1, POE n1, D2 he reached my bottom 3. Before he confessed. Although I never had a specific case to make here, never reading him town and naming the exact scum team of BFG, Andrej, and Taborline near end of day 2, in post 1530 is awesomesauce. Check.

 

9) Made people I've never played with before call me a wordy bastard. Check check check.

 

10) Correct seer cover left, on someone I would have actually scanned, not an easy town-read, since I didn't have a clue how to read him, and called it correctly because I put on my big boy pants. Check!

 

Gonna call those my successes. Well, shooting at Shad is a fail, it was covering for a potential blind spot but it's still not correct. Should have stuck with my cold read of him.

 

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Taborline basically abandoned ship, didn't give us much to work with, and was policy-lynched and consolidated on by me. I also agreed with Zander's basis for accusing her, seeing her as null or scummy thereafter. But I won't give myself a point for this, even though I assisted with maj'ing her over pushing BFG even more. This is Zander's find, 100% of the time. All Zander.

 

NotBob cleared himself based on his D1 vote for Taborline. After Taborline's flip as mafia bulletproof, that call was far simpler to make. But I can't really claim any credit on that read since I had him scummy and he exonerated himself by his own actions, not my analysis. NotBob did an excellent job on his own with that, and my read on him wasn't good to start with.

 

Nolder I backed off of more and more as the game progressed, and I faked a scan result of innocent on him which was correct. But given how hard I pushed him D1, I can't congratulate myself that much for such a read. Nolder did well under pressure and especially after he was given room to breathe.

 

Thane I was able to read as town after he was finally able to post some more on d2. But I had been hunting for him d1, so I won't give myself much credit there.

 

Those, I eventually ended up on the right side of history on. But I could have done better with these reads. Gonna call these my failures. In fairness, it was my first time playing with two of them and I've had maybe 1 or 2 games max with the other two, who were essentially not playing the game for most of the time I was here, for various reasons. But excuses, excuses.

 

Not a perfect game, but not bad either. Hopefully a less drama-filled showing than my last 2 attempts here.

 

Kudos going out to everyone else:

 

Zander, on the other hand, and several other of my fellow townies, had a boss game. Zander was on Taborline before I was, and he also suspected Andrej and BFG. Nailing Taborline early means that even though his suspicion was spread among too many people (much like my own), it was so instrumental to the town's victory, and drew the N1 kill away from our power roles, that I'd nominate Zander town's MVP, and give Lenlo a ton of credit playing a super boss third party survivor killer game, as the most effective and entertaining non-townie of the game. He also shot the final woof, so that's awesome. I'd say Shad was pretty boss when it came to Andrej, and his end of day one shenanigans might have been what provoked BFG's behavior. And he was mostly correct that he could pull those sorts of shenanigans and still be town-read for it. His play was so advanced it legit scared me. Dicetosser was on point all game, save for the John Snow misfire. But he looked so town all game long and locked himself town with his ideas. Nolder and NotBob also get much kudos from me for nearly getting Taborline D1, had they gotten more support to do so, my suspicions of them would have vanished a lot sooner.

 

Wolf team- I feel bad for Andrej, and apologies if we were a little hard on our absentee wolves because it is close to the holidays. Well fought, and if two wolves were absent a lot, I can kinda see Andrej falling on his sword after the entire team was 1, 2, and 3 on most folks' suspicions list. There's only so much fight you can give. Beratements for conceding shall not come from me. Generally you don't wanna do that though. Thanks for giving us an antagonist to fight against. You too, Lenlo. It's not always the funnest work, but I hope you guys all had a little bit of fun! Or a lot!

 

Thanks to Cory for some post-death spectator chatting with me.

 

Big thanks to the Game Mod Leelou for putting on the game!

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Nolder

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You had a restless night with thoughts of conspiracies running through your mind. Oh no! Are you becoming Myndrunner??? Quickly, you shake your head and clear your thoughts. You notice the sun is rising and you go to join the group. Everyone seems elated, BFG is dead. You go to turn to your buddy, when you realize he is missing. Saddened, you find Lenlo’s body lying amongst the bushes...but there was something strange about him...he has bugs crawling all around him...

 

BFG - Lock - Roleblocker - killed N3

Lenlo - Oogie Boogie - Gambler - killed N3

 

Town has won! 

Ha! That's what you get for calling your shots Mr Gambler.

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Songstress

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flying vampire gun?? i got given a kill??

 

 

Watch this Tress!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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SHOOT NOLDER!!!!!

 

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Nolder Spam Master

Nolder

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Nolder tunnelling on Lenlo like he expects him to play differently is -_-... Potential Scum!Nolder vibe from this nonsense.

I wasn't trying to tunnel him I just couldn't shake bad feelings he was giving me. 

 

 

"I think I'll join Nomi and put some pressure on BFG."

 
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"Why are you voting BFG again?"
 
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*facepalm*

Lol

 

I had my own reasons but I wanted to know his. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT?!

 

 

This is two games in a row I've co-modded where somebody had a "read" on a player that literally conflicted with mechanical information.  Nolder's townreading the self-proclaimed mafia.

To be fair he didn't out and out say "I'm mafia". And to also be fair if he had that's playing against his win condition. It was a pretty lame way to go regardless.

 

 

Why is everyone claiming lol

I'm not sure why everyone else claimed but as for me, I was pretty sure there was a high chance I would be the lynch next and I didn't feel like I could stop it from happening just by arguing. I haven't played a great game. So instead I tried to force BFG into killing me OR I'd catch her, you see I was pretty certain she was the last mafia. And I'd bet that would have worked too if Lenlo hadn't called his shot on BFG forcing her to shoot him back out of spite. Made sense to me anyway.

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Pizzaguy's (traditional) postgame postmortem.

 

Fun game. Really fun.

 

Lousy D1 by me, as is more the norm than my recent streak. *nods, then has PTSD flashbacks from some of those...*

 

I can't read people if they're not here and trying to solve, but excuses, excuses. Still, I got some good town-reads that day. Overall, I'd give myself a B+ for pulling it out after D1.

 

1) Called John Snow town all of day one, with reasons, number 2 townie during d1. Check.

 

2) Called Zander town, put him as my number 2 townie by end of d1 after JS died. Check.

 

3) Nailed Dicetosser as town literally all game long. Seriously the easiest read of the game. Check.

 

4) Had Shad as top townie all the way to end of day 2. I shot at him N2 for safety reasons, juuuuust in case he was deepwolfing and Andrej was trying to get the vig and scan directed away from Shad by going "hey! I'm guilty!", which is the only way Andrej's play makes any kind of sense. And Shad had been asking for Andrej to be scanned or shot as well. Hilariously, this misfire was blocked by the wolves.

 

5) Got myself town-read by every townie in the game by either day 1 or day 2, and the dead townies also had such a lean. Nailed that aspect. Check.

 

6) Post 1135 Actually names Lenlo as a serial killer candidate (see description in spoiler). I got a very non-mafia but not-town vibe from him. Third party survivor with killing ability who shot me, close enough for government work to call that a SK. Check.

 

7) Post 1135 Also names BFG as top scum candidate, before any flip on Taborline happened, and explains why, lean is 100 percent confidence, no one else reached that level all game. Post 1336 seals the deal because it cites an example of the specific nervous guilty behavior I've seen before, and explains why BFG is behaving that way. BFG probably always gets lynched before game ends based on this, since it is persuasive to several persons. Post 1524-1530 is basically a thing of beauty, and 1530 names the exact scum team. Check.

 

7) I don't think I ever gave AndreJ a town lean all game. I had him as mildly scummy d1, POE n1, D2 he reached my bottom 3. Before he confessed. Although I never had a specific case to make here, never reading him town and naming the exact scum team of BFG, Andrej, and Taborline near end of day 2, in post 1530 is awesomesauce. Check.

 

8) Made people I've never played with before call me a wordy bastard. Check check check.

 

9) Correct seer cover left, on someone I would have actually scanned, not an easy town-read, since I didn't have a clue how to read him, and called it correctly because I put on my big boy pants. Check!

 

Gonna call those my successes. Well, shooting at Shad is a fail, it was covering for a potential blind spot but it's still not correct. Should have stuck with my cold read of him.

 

_____________

 

Taborline basically abandoned ship, didn't give us much to work with, and was policy-lynched and consolidated on by me. I also agreed with Zander's basis for accusing her, seeing her as null or scummy thereafter. But I won't give myself a point for this, even though I assisted with maj'ing her over pushing BFG even more. This is Zander's find, 100% of the time. All Zander.

 

NotBob cleared himself based on his D1 vote for Taborline. After Taborline's flip as mafia bulletproof, that call was far simpler to make. But I can't really claim any credit on that read since I had him scummy and he exonerated himself by his own actions, not my analysis. NotBob did an excellent job on his own with that, and my read on him wasn't good to start with.

 

Nolder I backed off of more and more as the game progressed, and I faked a scan result of innocent on him which was correct. But given how hard I pushed him D1, I can't congratulate myself that much for such a read. Nolder did well under pressure and especially after he was given room to breathe.

 

Thane I was able to read as town after he was finally able to post some more on d2. But I had been hunting for him d1, so I won't give myself much credit there.

 

Those, I eventually ended up on the right side of history on. But I could have done better with these reads. Gonna call these my failures. In fairness, it was my first time playing with two of them and I've had maybe 1 or 2 games max with the other two, who were essentially not playing the game for most of the time I was here, for various reasons. But excuses, excuses.

 

Not a perfect game, but not bad either. Hopefully a less drama-filled showing than my last 2 attempts here.

 

Kudos going out to everyone else:

 

Zander, on the other hand, and several other of my fellow townies, had a boss game. Zander was on Taborline before I was, and he also suspected Andrej and BFG. Nailing Taborline early means that even though his suspicion was spread among too many people (much like my own), it was so instrumental to the town's victory, and drew the N1 kill away from our power roles, that I'd nominate Zander town's MVP, and give Lenlo a ton of credit playing a super boss third party survivor killer game, as the most effective and entertaining non-townie of the game. He also shot the final woof, so that's awesome. I'd say Shad was pretty boss when it came to Andrej, and his end of day one shenanigans might have been what provoked BFG's behavior. And he was mostly correct that he could pull those sorts of shenanigans and still be town-read for it. His play was so advanced it legit scared me. Dicetosser was on point all game, save for the John Snow misfire. But he looked so town all game long and locked himself town with his ideas. Nolder and NotBob also get much kudos from me for nearly getting Taborline D1, had they gotten more support to do so, my suspicions of them would have vanished a lot sooner.

 

Wolf team- I feel bad for Andrej, and apologies if we were a little hard on our absentee wolves because it is close to the holidays. Well fought, and if two wolves were absent a lot, I can kinda see Andrej falling on his sword after the entire team was 1, 2, and 3 on most folks' suspicions list. There's only so much fight you can give. Beratements for conceding shall not come from me. Generally you don't wanna do that though. Thanks for giving us an antagonist to fight against. You too, Lenlo. It's not always the funnest work, but I hope you guys all had a little bit of fun! Or a lot!

 

Thanks to Cory for some post-death spectator chatting with me.

 

Big thanks to the Game Mod Leelou for putting on the game!

 

 

:wub: :wub: :wub:

 

Pizza towning with you was a great pleasure sir!!!!!!

Taborline Community Regular

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Good game, Town!

 

I am sorry I wasn't around, and I legitimately was not here that week due to a crappy work crisis, but had hoped I could ride it out until Friday. How wrong I was :P

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