[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[wish-tree]

 

 

Could go with really souped up teams of 3, but that gets even swingier.

Meh. Bunch of dead goons, a tracker, and a watcher. Tracker and watcher are kind of nerfed cops for finding other scum teams. Plus, Hungarians have two dead goons so they can't be THAT souped up.

 

Just don't know why it couldn't be 10 and 10. Or if there's a 4th team - 4 teams of 3. I just don't know who the 4th team would be.

 

Never watched the movie?

 

I haven't. What does it tell us?

[Kivam]

My gut tells me I need to rally the troops around lynching one of CorKey, Kiv, Wombicat, or NolDerf, though. How are you guys comfortable voting already? I'm still trying to digest what this all means and you guys are swinging around votes like you don't care.

 

Game is greater than 50% mafia.  Odds are very, very good that a random vote hits scum - and I've got solid reasons for the specifics of where I put both my votes today.

 

[Clovdyx]

One dead bah post, as per permission.  Putting in spoilers, because well...spoilers.

 

 

 

He's making out with his sister, and the metal guy is Daddy.

It's the name of a freaking sled.

That nutritious thing everybody's eating?  Yeah, that's you.

The kid's crazy, but the doctor is dead.

The boat wins.

It's just some little Amish village.

Oz isn't real, it's all in her head.

Being nice gets you a chocolate factory.

It was on Earth.  So much for evolution.

Leo is crazy.

The iceberg wins.

The brilliant mind was like the kid from #4, except with friends instead of monsters.

SURPRISE!  YOUR BROTHER JUST SPENT ALL OF YOUR MONEY AND NEARLY GOT YOU KILLED.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

He's not just an ordinary man, and Sam Jackson totally isn't some criminal mastermind.

The villain is humanity, and it took the world's smartest man to destroy it to save it.

The creepy loser likes to take showers with his dead mom.  not that there's anything wrong with that.

Let a boy drown, and Mommy will kill you during sex.

Even I'm not cruel enough to spoil the movie, but the tongue thing is just weird.

In case you couldn't figure it out from the movie, the guy that's REALLY good at killing and is asked about the witness protection program is a killer in the witness protection program.

The old, crepid guy is actually the dead guy on the floor who actually likes to play games.

Magic is impossible to recreate, unless you're one of the millions of people in the world with a clone.

Yeah, the girls making out in the hot tub look hot, but they're crazy.

The drunk girl is going to briefly be shirtless in exchange for a tank top with the logo on it.

I have no idea what M. Night Shamalamadingdong's movie is about so I can't spoil it.  Don't waste your time.

You're the one trying to shoot your imaginary friend next to however many gallons of stuff that goes BOOM WHEN YOU SHOOT IT.  PIXIES PLAY OUTRO

Literally everybody dies.

 

 

 

[Kivam]

 

 

Kivam is pretty trustworthy now imo, because he helped end Lenlo and now he's focusing on Hallia, who really hasn't been contributing much recently.

 

I think Cory is safe as well as Yates. Not sure about the others.

 

Can't wait to see the reactions to this one.  Did you miss my post about never getting townread?  But thanks, I really needed that today

 

Didn't see that.

 

People just said... no...way. XD

 

The flips have basically reset my reads. I'm starting to think that my town reads potentially could be scum. Though... I really want to trust Yates, CoryKey, Wombat, and you atm. Could be a terrible idea. Probably is.

:/

 

 

Trusting me in a mafia game is always a terrible idea, unless you're a cop with an innocent view on me and a dead godfather revealed in the game.  10 out of 10 times.  I fake townie really really well because my scum and town games are consistent.  So never trust me.

 

But agreeing with me works as long as you can follow my argument and agree with it separate and apart from the fact that I'm the one who's making it.

 

[Kivam]

 

 

 

Could go with really souped up teams of 3, but that gets even swingier.

Meh. Bunch of dead goons, a tracker, and a watcher. Tracker and watcher are kind of nerfed cops for finding other scum teams. Plus, Hungarians have two dead goons so they can't be THAT souped up.

 

Just don't know why it couldn't be 10 and 10. Or if there's a 4th team - 4 teams of 3. I just don't know who the 4th team would be.

 

Never watched the movie?

 

I haven't. What does it tell us?

 

That at least one team is likely to have either 4 players or 5 (and if there's 4 on that team, there's a SK in the game).  Also, that you need to go watch the movie, since it's one of the best films ever made. 

[Kivam]

Where'd everybody go?

[Cory Caboose]

drinking

 

hru Kivkiv

[Hallia]

Well the day flip makes me take back what I said about Kiv. Hydt because he wasn't on Lenlos team doesnt mean he isn't mafia.

 

[v] Kiv [/v]

 

This turn of events is icky.

[Kivam]

Well the day flip makes me take back what I said about Kiv. Hydt because he wasn't on Lenlos team doesnt mean he isn't mafia.

 

[v] Kiv [/v]

 

This turn of events is icky.

 

So ... you and Shad, huh?

[Hallia]

Me and Shad what?

[Kivam]

Hally, just so I'm clear - are you still voting me because you're afraid I'll park my vote on AJ?  Or was there something else?

[Hallia]

Nope. I voted you for being scummy on day one, you and your partner. I tried to rethink it after the flip for d1. Then with the multiple team reveal, it became valid again.

[Kivam]

Nope. I voted you for being scummy on day one, you and your partner. I tried to rethink it after the flip for d1. Then with the multiple team reveal, it became valid again.

 

That would be a wonderful explanation if it were true.  But it isn't.  Feel free to quote any of your posts explaining your vote; I already did it pretty extensively so the whole game should be well aware that you either are lying or have Lenlo disease (forgot why you placed your vote, huh?)

[Kivam]

And yet still, that Shad post reeks to high heaven and his US/Cops stumble means if he's mafia, he's Hungarian mafia.  So I'd rather focus on him and put that team 3 men down.  KThxBye

[keyholder21]

on mobile again .

 

 

@hally - tried to rethink what in light of the flip?

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Nolderf (1): CorKey

Talya (1): Wombicat

Pral (1): Nolderf

Shad (2): Sephander, Kivam

Kivam (1): Hally

 

Not Voting: (9): Sili, Laine, Shad, Talya, Pral, Yates, John Snow, Csarmi, Wish/Celeste

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Day 2 Deadline is Thursday, August 20, at 10:00 AM MST/1PM EDT:

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150820T09&p0=197&msg=Day+Two+Deadline&font=cursive&csz=1

[Hallia]

It is true. I'm on mobile, but I feel like I already covered you preeeeeetty well D1.

[Celeste]

I am finally on a laptop! Time to get down to business.

[Kivam]

Every D1 post Hally made relating to me:
 

 

Yah, could vote Kiv for that alone

 

Between the Kiv sass and Mish's defensiveness, that is the way to go for now until I see anything better.
 
 
Vote: Kiv/Mish

 

What do you think of the Mish/Kiv slot Correhluff?

 

 

[v]AJ[/v]. Will be my policy lynch choice unless something significantly better comes along. Yes, i am still very, very pissed. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 
Because I feel like this is an easy way for that slot to hop on a player and sit there, boasting of a 'grudge.'

 

 

So if you drew town you might do it, only to unvote later, or not do it at all, and say 'Oh hey, just kidding lul'
 
but you did it, and for now my vote stays.
 
@Razen - Have you seen anythign better?  He didn't move it.  I know that his partner did, but it stands out to me as scummy.

 

NP Raz, it's true.  And it stands out to me more because I see both heads doing something kinda scummy.  And that's double trouble.  At least for me, when I'm a hydra, and town, my other head can offset my scumminess.
 
@Yates - I would say he feels to me like AJ, a fairly logical and easy going player.

 

Blah. Are you still carrying on about that Kiv? You did it to yourself, get over it.

 

Actually, I did respond to it.

 

[v]AJ[/v]. Will be my policy lynch choice unless something significantly better comes along. Yes, i am still very, very pissed. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 
Because I feel like this is an easy way for that slot to hop on a player and sit there, boasting of a 'grudge.'

 

 
 

 

 

[v]AJ[/v]. Will be my policy lynch choice unless something significantly better comes along. Yes, i am still very, very pissed. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 
Because I feel like this is an easy way for that slot to hop on a player and sit there, boasting of a 'grudge.'

 

Check the signup thread.  Said I'd be doing that before the role PMs went out.  So while you're right that it could be alignment indicative, generally speaking, objectively it isn't in this case.

 

 
 

So if you drew town you might do it, only to unvote later, or not do it at all, and say 'Oh hey, just kidding lul'
 
but you did it, and for now my vote stays.
 
@Razen - Have you seen anythign better?  He didn't move it.  I know that his partner did, but it stands out to me as scummy.

 

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is, it doesn't matter to me if you said it or not in the signups.

Next one is re this from Sili:
 

Oh I see. This is ongoing.

Difference between Laine and Kivam is Kivam has a fuse and Laine has a rule. These things speak to their mentality. Therefore if Kivam uses the fuse to not play the game, this is bad. Whereas Laine can continue using her rule of thumb as long as there is genuine progression.

That kinda explains it more clearly, thanks for being in my head Sili

I'm glad it seems to only be Kiv who doesn't get it, I know I sometimes have a hard time conveying what I mean.

Correh, who knows what Friday will bold, we should all VC! (and lynch Derf)

Sorry you feel that way, Kiv. It's mafia, make a better case on someone else?

If I had to say, I would have

Sili, CorKey, Yates, and Nyce down as my townies for the moment

Townish/Null would be: AJ, Raz, ClovFG

Null: Most everyone else

Scummy: Kivish

My other point, Razen, is that both heads are being scummy, something that I find very suspicious. As I said, generally a town slotted hydra could easily have one head being misread (Myself with Nyn as other head for example) but the other head is usually townread. At last, that's my experience.

<snip>

So having caught up, my vote is staying riiiiiiiiiight where it is.

<snip>

Catching up at work, I feel like I like how Wombat is posting, I like the energy, but I don't like his reads. Primarily on Zander/Kiv. Yates is so so town. I dunno yet on Laine, but she feels relaxed to me.

 

 

 

So yes, literally the only thing you said you found scummy about me was that you were concerned that I parked my vote on AJ.  You also FoSed Mish recognizing (and overreacting to) the fact that this was a hybrid hammer game.

 

Lynch all liars makes it clear you're on one of the scum teams.  I'm willing to bet it's Shad's, and he's a power role to your goon.

[WWWwombat]

I've omitted important characters before, but that was so I could use them as safe claims and I see no reason to do it in this game so you're probably right, Kiv.

 

[unvote]

[v]Shad[/v]

 

Would love to take a crack at US mafia though.

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Nolderf (1): CorKey

Pral (1): Nolderf

Shad (3): Sephander, Kivam, Wombicat

Kivam (1): Hally

 

Not Voting: (9): Sili, Laine, Shad, Talya, Pral, Yates, John Snow, Csarmi, Wish/Celeste

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Day 2 Deadline is Thursday, August 20, at 10:00 AM MST/1PM EDT:

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150820T09&p0=197&msg=Day+Two+Deadline&font=cursive&csz=1

[John Snow]

Well I was going to catch up. Then I looked at the OP for flips. 

[John Snow]

[v]Shad[/v]

[Yates]

Never watched the movie?

Pshhh - not in like 10 years... I'm going to IMDB it real quick to refresh my memory on the characters:

 

US would be:

Keaton

McManus

Fenster

Hockney

 

Ok - Verbal is a WC here

 

Hungarians would be:

Kovaz

Horvart - not in the movie??

???Keyser???

???Kobyashi???

 

Cops would be:

Kujan

Rabin

Bayer

????

 

Town would be:

Edie

Plummer

Walters

Fortier

Renault

Papa Hockney

Uncle Randal

David McManus

 

Who am I missing? I can't even get 20 characters...

Redfoot?

Tucci, Higham, and Saul? <- JFC - possibly 4th scum set??

[Yates]

Had to dig in to the script to find some of these: http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~ina22/splaylib/Screenplay-Usual_Suspects.HTM