British Monarchy Mafia- Game Over, Town Wins!!!

[Eldrick4221]

Not good. I´m not even sure how to get information about anyone based on the posts in the end of the day. 

By continuing the process tomorrow. They aren't going to stop being suspects just because we didn't lynch one.

 

And whatever happens tonight will help too.

 

End of day isn't the only part of the game.

[Pralaya]

Well, this is bad. No coroner report is not to going to help us at all.

 

I am sorry but I cannot be on the deadline if it is at 5 AM my time. I tried to consolidate but at the time I slept there was no particular lead. I still think Razen is scum and we should have gone there. 

 

 

 

The interactions between Razen and Zander don't make sense if Zander if mafia and Razen is town. Either they are both mafia, both town, or Razen is mafia and Zander is town. Being I believe Razen is town, that marks Zander as town as well.

Uh? What interactions are you referring to? What is it that makes both their alignment same?

[Talya]

 

I'm not going to finish my re read, bedtime for me. I won't be here for the end.

At present I'm not willing to go with a Heart lynch today, change of heart so to speak. I would be willing to go JS, but I don't really like going for someone not here, though saying that, he moaned about activity and he is doing it. His vote on Eld yesterday an hour before DL has me worried. He had LotD down as 80% town or something? But it was close to deadline. The other one that is bugging me is Sep, sorry sweetie, but you hammer didn't seem quite right. Alanna saw it was well. Not sure who to go for...

I don't like voting people who can't defend themselves. [v]Seph[/v]

Night all

I can't bold the part I want to with my phone.

Tayla didn't you just condemn me for voting someone who is inactive, and now your fos him??

If John wasn't a main lynch candidate day 1, if he didn't call a wolf 85% town, and then try to lynch eldrick. It might be different.

I'm sorry, but if your catching heat, and avoid the entire next day phase, it looks EXTREMLEY suspicious.

 

You can bet, most wolves post less day 2, than any other day phase.

 

Regarding the hammer, I was around most of that day phase, worried because until 1-2 hours left, no one was around. I could have let laine hammer, but I was going to place my vote regardless when I had to leave.

 

Can you tell me why you find it suspicious tayla?

 

 

I know you are gone Seph, but I'm hoping you were wolf :p. just to say this, I think that there are game mechanics that can mean hat someone is not on during a day phase. It's a great way for scum to get a vote on someone who can't come in and say something. I'm not saying that is what happening here, but I would prefer not to vote blindly like that. FOSing someone is completely different. I'm not voting him. If he isn't in by the next day then that is not any kind of game mechanic but an avoidance of some sort, whether RL or intential.

 

@ Razen - I'm not staying up to early morning for this to go through when I have to get up at 6 to go to work. If people had started to consolidate before deadline, we wouldn't have this problem. There are lazy people in this game.

 

Vote Count

 

John Snow (2/7):  NotBob, Hallia,

Dice (5/7): Eldrick, Zander, Seph, Heart, Razen

Heart (1/7): Tina

Seph (2/7): Dice, Talya

 

 

Not voting (2/12): John Snow and Pralaya

 

Day 2 has ended and no lynch was achieved... therefore it will be up to the computer gods on random.org as to who dies... this also means no coroner report.

 

Zander - why didn't you move your vote over to JS, you were pushing him a lot on day 1. That does not good for you. EOD actually looks good for AH she pushed you all to get a vote, and was even willing to have herself lynched so we weren't in that situation (different than self voting). Like she said she was vanilla and at least you don't lose a PR. For that she has gone up atp for that. I could feel the frustration coming off the page when I read.

 

 

Vote Count

 

John Snow (2/7):  NotBob, Hallia,

Dice (5/7): Eldrick, Zander, Seph, Heart, Razen

Heart (1/7): Tina

Seph (2/7): Dice, Talya

 

 

Not voting (2/12): John Snow and Pralaya

 

Day 2 has ended and no lynch was achieved... therefore it will be up to the computer gods on random.org as to who dies... this also means no coroner report.

 

If we needed six...my apologies...didn't have a good vote count...and Dice didn't have a chance to claim.

 

 

Shouldn't have needed one, should have just voted with DL that close.

 

Well, this is bad. No coroner report is not to going to help us at all.

 

I am sorry but I cannot be on the deadline if it is at 5 AM my time. I tried to consolidate but at the time I slept there was no particular lead. I still think Razen is scum and we should have gone there. 

 

 

 

The interactions between Razen and Zander don't make sense if Zander if mafia and Razen is town. Either they are both mafia, both town, or Razen is mafia and Zander is town. Being I believe Razen is town, that marks Zander as town as well.

Uh? What interactions are you referring to? What is it that makes both their alignment same?

 

 

I would also like to understand that from Eld, I don't think it means that, It could go anyway.

 

@ Pral - whilst I'm here, if you know that you are not going to be on for deadline then get a vote in on who you think is wolf, voting is about wolf hunting and lynching not consolidating at the end. Would like to see more from you. Why didn't you vote who you thought was wolf?

[Pralaya]

 

@ Pral - whilst I'm here, if you know that you are not going to be on for deadline then get a vote in on who you think is wolf, voting is about wolf hunting and lynching not consolidating at the end. Would like to see more from you. Why didn't you vote who you thought was wolf?

 

 

I did? I had voted Razen until the moment I slept. I unvoted because most didn't think he was scum and it was going nowhere. 

[dicetosser1]

Talya  are you saying you got silenced?

[Eldrick4221]

I think she's saying JS might have been.

[Eldrick4221]

As for the interactions I am referencing, I am talking about Day 1.

 

Zander was voting JS, because he wanted JS to explain why he did what he did with the vig claim, but repeatedly said that Razen was scummier. But he didn't move his vote over to Razen with these accusations. This makes sense if they are both scum. It makes sense if they are both town. It doesn't make sense if Zander is scum and Razen is town, because scum want town to get lynched. They don't care who it is.

[wheeloftime13]

King George V was pouring over maps that showed where attacks were happening that undermined the hard work of the monarchy. He also kept notes on the times, observations, and theories he had on who the villainous monarchs were. Just before dawn, a knock on his door had him abandoning his thoughts and going to see if his spies had found anything. Forgetting the previous night's murder he opened the door and didn't have time to process what he saw before his brains splattered the walls and part of the door from a shot to the head. The shot drew people from their rooms but by the time they reached the scene of the crime, the culprit was gone.

 

TinaHel- George V, town vanilla has been Night Killed

 

It is now Day 3. Countdown to end of Day 3: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20150720T20&p0=263&msg=British+Monarchy+Mafia+Day+3&font=cursive&swk=1

[Hallia]

Tina? Hmmm. Interesting.

[Eldrick4221]

At least we haven't lost a role yet (unless seph was one, of course)

[Eldrick4221]

[v]JS[/v]

 

Explain why you were gone Day 2, and convince us you're town.

[Eldrick4221]

Still no second kill. Have you not been shooting, Pral?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Vote Eldrick

[Eldrick4221]

You're on my list simply because of how hard you are pushing for my lynch. I'm one of the people actively trying to figure the game out. You keep gunning for me.

[Eldrick4221]

I think JS or Dice is still the way to go today. If something builds on Notbob, I wouldn't mind going that way either. Let's not wait until DL to decide this time, ok?

[Hallia]

Notbob, bar Eldrick, who would you say is good for scum?

[Eldrick4221]

And like Heart said, I would rather it be me than random.

[Aiel Heart]

Eldrick, there are situations for those words, and this is no longer one of them.

 

 

JS posted at the beginning of D2 (see page 43) so that makes it less likely that he was silenced. Going to reread from there-ish to actually take notes. May do a full reread this weekend.

[Aiel Heart]

Pral--tell us what you've done the last few nights and why. It's interesting to me that you've not died yet, though they might have assumed that you were going to be protected

[Eldrick4221]

Eldrick, there are situations for those words, and this is no longer one of them.

 

 

JS posted at the beginning of D2 (see page 43) so that makes it less likely that he was silenced. Going to reread from there-ish to actually take notes. May do a full reread this weekend.

I disagree. Waiting til right before deadline is bad. i'm trying to kill that trend.

[Aiel Heart]

"Right before" isn't the right time but this early isn't the right time either imo. 

 

Agree to disagree I suppose.

 

 

I'm tempted to go through and quote all of my questions which have yet to be answered...

[Eldrick4221]

Feel free. I will address them after I get home from work. Sorry I didn't satisfy with what I've already posted, if not directly answering them.

[Aiel Heart]

Can't remember any for you at the moment... Oh one random one--have you ever played in a mafia game with your mom?

[Aiel Heart]

 

 

 

 

Sorry I missed yesterday everyone.

It doesn't seem like alot has happened day 2, and that worries me.

Razen

Dice

Js

Zander

Eld

I'm really going to try and pay attention to these in particular.

I have razen as town, but I want to look closer at zanders point on him.

Planning my re read

 

 

I am pretty dissapointed in dice iso. I list his posts in the spoiler, that actually have Content. There was a few more but most of them are fluff.

 

 

Right so i have been bad and not here  catching up now

 

 

 

Well since you guys are unable to scumhunt if I'm not ITT, I'll just shoot all my work and planning to heck.

 

I was waiting from Pralaya. Definitely dodging thread at this point. Was on at 1 pm yesterday, and 10 pm again. Nothing to say in thread. 

 

So here goes. What I was doing this game. 

 First off, I'm not a vig. I lied. I was kickstarting the game, and seeing who posted differently than normal (see also: my vote on Zander). I wanted to see who was just going to try to fluff their content to not get vigged. 

 

And that was all I was going to do. And then Pral claimed vig. And didn't vote me. Which I thought was weird as hell. 

 

 

But you know, I thought, heck let's see where this goes. And Pral's good with my claim. Which is really weird.

 

So I decided to spend the rest of the day trying to read Pral. My best plan was to see how Pral reacted to me playing poorly. I also wanted to see Pral's reaction to the mason thing. Also, I'm not a mason with Pral. FYI. Not even slightly. 

 

See, it's a solid play as a GF to fakeclaim vig. It's irrefutable. Other than the days you want to "vig" you have your team submit the kills. So I was guessing that Pral might be doing that. 

 

 

Instead Pral has dodged thread. Intentionally and consistently. (Protip: If you want to dodge thread, set your status to always show offline). Now while this isn't the most scummy thing Pral could do, it's the best play for a scum to do. Let the train on me ramp up, let town kill their vig, and get vetted by a townie death. And lose nothing. 

 

 

 

So that's my thought process. Any questions?

 

Also Pral obvscum imo. [unvote] [v]Pral[/v]

I'm confused.  First, you said you weren't the vig.  And then, you're saying that Pral's absence is allowing the train on you to ramp up and let us kill our vig.  You're contradicting yourself here.

 

For what it's worth, I do agree that if he is deliberately avoiding posting in the game thread after browsing when his claim has been questioned endlessly it's that he's trying to hide something.  And I do think it's insanely weird he was ok with your claim too.

 

 

need to come back to this when i get to work  

 

 

on page 24

 

 

Jon beat me to it but i think you read this wrong. I took it as without pral there was a vig claim on the table and people were voting it. this is good for mafia if true.  

 

meh that was better worded in my head yesterday

 

I was trying ti ISO Heart, but the quotes are going weird.

 

So a list instead:

 

First part is a bit fluffy votes Razen and thenunvotes

 

 - Zander feels off  and we should lynch him

 

 

Talks about using vig power and Post count

 

- Qs Zand on Elds idea of not letting them live (JS and Pral)

- Qs Eld why voting before caught up, why dislike JS over Pral

- Asks Zand the question again

- Likes Razen

- Zander Felt different (again she says this), but no ready to dub him scummy

 

finds something curious and likeable about Seph an Eld???

Talks about Hally's lock clear on my and my response, does ask Hally for any other strong tremors

 

- Zand Excitable

 

- Qs NB over JS and Pral and agrees with his vote on Dice

 

- Tells JS channelling EP will not win her trust

 

- Doesn't see Zanders 4 (Snow/Pral/Hally/Tal) as random

 

- Thinks it is possible we have two vigs, so it's not a counterclaim, immediate vote isn't necessary with a cc, but pressure would be and didn't see any

 

One Quote

 

This is odd...now we know what Pral has said. Doesn't automatically mean a link here, but it does mean that Pral could have used this as an excuse. Mod can Wolves talk Day and Night?

 

If each of the vigs (my computer keeps trying to correct that to "figs" so if I say something about figs at some point just know that it is probably supposed to say "vigs") had some sort of restriction, I could see that being possible.

 

So that is one possibility out of many. The lack of pressure towards each other between the two claims is interesting (if memory serves, they were almost amenable--will need to read that interaction again) and causing me to think that there is something beyond a counterclaim going on here.

 

 

 Im not voting heart today

 

 

How do you know it's not there.

I said maybe a bit of ten foiling hence asking someone for their opinion. Doesn't mean there isn't one, and yet you seem so sure!

 

I don´t know if there is a connection between them. I have both of them as null right now. I just felt that it was a long shot. It was hard for me to see if your were actually trying to figure stuff out or making something up. You have backed away from it so I guess it could be the first one. Now you have some kind of connection between AH and Zander instead and I don´t understand why.

 

For those of you that some kind of meta read on Snow - would he do something like this as mafia?

 

 

I dont think hed do something that ballsy. I especially dont think as mafia hed come out later on, but before its resolved and while he is getting voted, and claim he is EPing. You know what happens to EP because of his crazy plans?? He gets lynched. My heart STILL wants to lynch JS just because of the EP thing.

 

Thing is i see his play as similar to Yates' in Red Wedding. Only Pral screwed up Nyn didnt

 

 

 

Oh, yeah, @Tayla, it's DM practice that wolves, masons, etc can talk at all times on the QT.

 

Not always, one game recently Wolves could only talk at night, hence why I asked.

 

If you saw my ISO of heart Tina, you would see why, she keeps saying Zander is weird. She's played a couple of games with him, so it is worth noting.

 

 

Those have been some recent games and are some mods attempt at bringing other sites ways of playing here. theres only been like 3 of those or something

 

 

Just a question - Pral, why did you choose to claim?

 

Well, when JS claimed vig, it initially kinda threw me off. But, then, I speculated him to be town based on the role I had. To be sure of that and to gauge his reaction, I claimed. 

 

Sorry, nope, don't buy this. You were behind for 2 days and you just "happen" to catch up when you get called out? Classic scum tactic. 

 

And here's the thing. Me not CC-ing you had me as strong town in your book (assuming, but pretty fair assumption). And there was a train ramping up on me, and you don't think that's the time to pop in and say "I'm not caught up, but this guy is town guys?"

 

The point is that I never knew of the train ramping up on you till I reached that point in my catchup (which was probably after you voted me). Like I said...I can't prove it but those who have played with me before would know I catch up pretty slow.

 

 

Red   This makes NO sense whatsoever. Especially if you think the guy is town. I will say this straight out I think you screwed this up majorly

 

sigh

 

Eldrick  have you ever seen someone listed as null? cause guess what? thats not a town OR scum reading. thats saying i dont have them as town i dont have them as scum. it happens all the time.

 

 

id be happy going you LOD or razen at this point.

  

Actually they were your thoughts Zander. You made good points.

 

 

and my vote on zander sitting there is doing no harm

 

 

There is no game solving, the only reads I even see besides the two trains at eod, was heart.

I know you have been busy dice, but I need to see more!

 

  

Razen.

I really liked his interaction and thoughts on the js and Pralaya incident. He had some good points on zander, and looks far better than zander in the end. I think alanna explained this interaction very well!

I only got through two iso before I wanted to sleep, so I posted a reads list, to let everybody know where I was at.

I later went into further detail when Tina asked me about it.

Laya

Razen

Tayla

Hallia

Notbob

Tina

Heart

Js

Zander

Dice

Eldrick

I still need to read zand, heart, Tina, hallia. But I feel pretty confident in this list!!

Could actually switch notbob and tina.

[V]Eldrick

After your explanation, it seems like it's a misunderstanding, or you are trying to create something to put on me...

 

Can someone explain this post to me? I don't think I'm having trouble just because I'm half asleep...

[Aiel Heart]

Well that coding went funny