[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[alannalynn]

I'm just curious on the logic here. Color me confused.

[seph]

 

 

 

He does not believe.  Salami wolf equity rising considerably.  Still not lynching him today I don't think.

 

Not lynching a peeked townie day 1. But apparently Seph dropped his cover so there we go.

Why would i be taking a cover into account? Because whil N0 peek impossiblr, day peek isn't.

Why would i call it nonsense? Cauae he made it all stupid.

More questions?

all of the waffling came before I told you the csarmi. you said you believed it before hand.

It got discussion moving forward notbob, as we are still using it for discussion on page 60. SO I would say it has helped the town. would you like to tell me in what sense it is hurting it?

 

what conclusion did you come to from all this discussion?

I posted a reads list notbob.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

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But all the information points to there NOT being a N0, so how would he have a N0 peek? Hell, if someone is scummy enough, you lynch them.

I didn't know there were rules on peek cover???

For the umpteenth time. N0 peek impossible. D1 peek (day cop), D1 peek (lie detector)masons, whatever are NOT.

 

On peek cover: it's simple - if people provide peek cover you don't kill their peeks D1 unless you got a VERY good reason to. Very good.

 

 

THIS ISN'T A THING

 

How many vanilla games have you played?

 

 

More than you.

[Andrej]

Nah. I pretty much never considered Seph's peek to be for real, and Day roles wouldn't really apply because he dropped it in his OP.

 

So?

[csarmi]

 

 

 

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But all the information points to there NOT being a N0, so how would he have a N0 peek? Hell, if someone is scummy enough, you lynch them.

I didn't know there were rules on peek cover???

For the umpteenth time. N0 peek impossible. D1 peek (day cop), D1 peek (lie detector)masons, whatever are NOT.

 

On peek cover: it's simple - if people provide peek cover you don't kill their peeks D1 unless you got a VERY good reason to. Very good.

 

 

THIS ISN'T A THING

 

For example, if everyone gives peek cover, does that mean we can't lynch anyone?

 

Nope, that means the one sgetting townpeeked are more likely to be town AND more likely to be actually townpeeked for real (real seer gives peek too) so you don't wanna lynch them. You really don't. It's not that you can't - just need to have a really good reason to, one that overrides the -EV (estimated value) hit of going there.

[WWWwombat]

WTL

 

Salami

Seph

Sili

 

maybe Durin

[Darthe]

BTW getting quite sure Darthe is a wolf here. Look how he switches angle as pressure is back on.

You see, when more people say things more information comes to light.  

[Zander?]

@ Alanna thought verb made a couple decent posts (don't have the references though) and thane has been relaxed.  early read,  like i said need more time in the hyrdas. 

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

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But all the information points to there NOT being a N0, so how would he have a N0 peek? Hell, if someone is scummy enough, you lynch them.

I didn't know there were rules on peek cover???

For the umpteenth time. N0 peek impossible. D1 peek (day cop), D1 peek (lie detector)masons, whatever are NOT.

 

On peek cover: it's simple - if people provide peek cover you don't kill their peeks D1 unless you got a VERY good reason to. Very good.

 

 

THIS ISN'T A THING

 

For example, if everyone gives peek cover, does that mean we can't lynch anyone?

 

Nope, that means the one sgetting townpeeked are more likely to be town AND more likely to be actually townpeeked for real (real seer gives peek too) so you don't wanna lynch them. You really don't. It's not that you can't - just need to have a really good reason to, one that overrides the -EV (estimated value) hit of going there.

 

 

There is hardly any -EV as townies can screw up fake peeks and mafia already know who has seer equity as soon as the peeks are issued.

[alannalynn]

@ Alanna thought verb made a couple decent posts (don't have the references though) and thane has been relaxed.  early read,  like i said need more time in the hyrdas. 

Kk, I'll keep bothering you about it later

 

WTL

 

Salami

Seph

Sili

 

maybe Durin

I think I missed this, why Sili?

[Darthe]

I'm just curious on the logic here. Color me confused.

Oh the logic is awful.  What's important is figuring out if it makes him a wolf or not.  

 

WTL

 

Salami

Seph

Sili

 

maybe Durin

Four is a lot right now

[Andrej]

I'll be leaving soon for work. There's a chance I'll make DL but it's not a big one.

 

Wombat - I leave our fate in your more than capable hands.

[Darthe]

[unvote][v] thaneballs [/v]

 

I don't know if it's insulting to say that I think Salami can do this as town but I really don't have much faith here.  

[WWWwombat]

 

Sili is wolf lean to you? That's kinda the opposite of my impression. Can you elaborate on that?

 

 

He had a somewhat plausible explanation, but I'm still bothered by his approach to AJ/Seph.  And unlike others, I don't really care that much about his post volume because he seems to be sitting back to me.

 

 

for Laine

[alannalynn]

 

 

 

Nope, that means the one sgetting townpeeked are more likely to be town AND more likely to be actually townpeeked for real (real seer gives peek too) so you don't wanna lynch them. You really don't. It's not that you can't - just need to have a really good reason to, one that overrides the -EV (estimated value) hit of going there.

 

 

There is hardly any -EV as townies can screw up fake peeks and mafia already know who has seer equity as soon as the peeks are issued.

 

I would think that PoE would make it easier for mafia to search out the real seer. I guess I don't really understand seer cover, especially if it's done at start of day like a random thing.

[Shad_]

 

o, i think we can assume salami is telling the truth and there are 4 scum, not 5.

 

Sili, what made you think 4?  Leelou asked about ratio of town to scum but I didn't understand how you came about your answer.

 

 

I did not.

 

 

 

@ Leelou will try to remember to cut down posts!!

 

I've played in like 7 or 8 I think and a couple of turbos off site

Ratio of town to scum? 

 

 

Maybe the context was lost on me?  At any rate I didn't read anything negative into the question.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

He does not believe.  Salami wolf equity rising considerably.  Still not lynching him today I don't think.

Not lynching a peeked townie day 1. But apparently Seph dropped his cover so there we go.

Why would i be taking a cover into account? Because whil N0 peek impossiblr, day peek isn't.

Why would i call it nonsense? Cauae he made it all stupid.

More questions?

all of the waffling came before I told you the csarmi. you said you believed it before hand.

It got discussion moving forward notbob, as we are still using it for discussion on page 60. SO I would say it has helped the town. would you like to tell me in what sense it is hurting it?

 

what conclusion did you come to from all this discussion?

I posted a reads list notbob.

 

 

I am asking you to connect how your peek cover claim led your reads.  The rationale.  Want to see how your strategy led to a conclusion?

[WWWwombat]

 

I'm just curious on the logic here. Color me confused.

Oh the logic is awful.  What's important is figuring out if it makes him a wolf or not.  

 

WTL

 

Salami

Seph

Sili

 

maybe Durin

Four is a lot right now

 

 

Yeah well this game is pretty meh so far.

 

 

I'll be leaving soon for work. There's a chance I'll make DL but it's not a big one.

 

Wombat - I leave our fate in your more than capable hands.

 

jerk

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

Nope, that means the one sgetting townpeeked are more likely to be town AND more likely to be actually townpeeked for real (real seer gives peek too) so you don't wanna lynch them. You really don't. It's not that you can't - just need to have a really good reason to, one that overrides the -EV (estimated value) hit of going there.

 

 

There is hardly any -EV as townies can screw up fake peeks and mafia already know who has seer equity as soon as the peeks are issued.

 

I would think that PoE would make it easier for mafia to search out the real seer. I guess I don't really understand seer cover, especially if it's done at start of day like a random thing.

 

 

Not a big deal.  We've already spent way too much time talking about it in this game.

[Darthe]

I peeked Zander town btw.

 

See how disingenuous town peeks look late in the day?

 

Btw, using Salami logic I should mention that there is statistically a 75% chance that I am town and 75% chance that my peek is town so yeah we're LOCK CLEAR BISH

[Andrej]

Seer cover has its place in games when the set up calls for it.

 

This isn't one of those - the discussion is not a good one and Salami looks bad for trying to come up with ways to back his stance in believing what was an obvious fake thing.

[WWWwombat]

I always peek late.  Even when I'm the cop.  Get rekt wilves.

[Zander?]

[unvote][v] thaneballs [/v]

 

I don't know if it's insulting to say that I think Salami can do this as town but I really don't have much faith here.  

WTH stay on point.  not sating you have to vote Csarmi but seriously Thaneballs?  Come on now.  Don't wanna have try and follow #FullDarthe as it may lead me down the same path fwiw.

[WWWwombat]

 

[unvote][v] thaneballs [/v]

 

I don't know if it's insulting to say that I think Salami can do this as town but I really don't have much faith here.  

WTH stay on point.  not sating you have to vote Csarmi but seriously Thaneballs?  Come on now.  Don't wanna have try and follow #FullDarthe as it may lead me down the same path fwiw.

 

 

Sympathetic Dartheness is creepy.

[Darthe]

 

[unvote][v] thaneballs [/v]

 

I don't know if it's insulting to say that I think Salami can do this as town but I really don't have much faith here.  

WTH stay on point.  not sating you have to vote Csarmi but seriously Thaneballs?  Come on now.  Don't wanna have try and follow #FullDarthe as it may lead me down the same path fwiw.

 

I'M THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, MY VOTE IS A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE ON WOLVES