A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Talya]

 

thought BP = bullet proof

It does. I'm a bullet proof vig. That's what a Flying Pumpkin is.

 

 

all these new roles...how I am supposed to keep up...you do look a little orange

[Yates]

Remember this whole onion conversation we had and you wouldn't give me a straight answer?

I do remember the onion conversation. And I do remember giving you a straight answer several times. And I remember my answer being that I was trying to understand his thought process. And I remember telling you that I was trying to understand his thought process in order to determine his alignment. And I remember thinking that was about as straight of an answer as I could give you.

[Yates]

Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I can't help that you don't know what it looks like to help Town. *shrug*

[Talya]

[unvote]

 

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

 

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

[Talya]

 

Remember this whole onion conversation we had and you wouldn't give me a straight answer?

I do remember the onion conversation. And I do remember giving you a straight answer several times. And I remember my answer being that I was trying to understand his thought process. And I remember telling you that I was trying to understand his thought process in order to determine his alignment. And I remember thinking that was about as straight of an answer as I could give you.

 

 

Cake is better...layered cake

[Sooh]

Hey guys! I've been trying to catch up while you've all been running away from me  
 
This is definitely a bigger game than I'm used to. I lean towards believing Yates for now though, so [unvote]

 

I did expect Seph to be much more involved in this game, so he's my biggest lead at the moment for where to find scum.

 

[v]seph[/v]

[Hallia]

No. I voted Yates because i didn't like the way he was defending himself, and because of the posts of his people were linking.

[Gabriel Kross]

why give a safe fake claim...let them work it out fro themselves - I'm an evil mod..lol

 

I'm finding it a little odd claim, but that is just me. but time can be muddled in the world of Mafia. If so, quite a major claim (if it was LotR), but with the world of Tolkien, it is actually quite small

 

I don't like supplied fake claims. Luckily any games I ever run will be from universes I've written myself so character claims will mean nothing.

[Zander?]

 

Yates's is seeming woried now...that is unexpected. Why would you you not care about a Lock Wolf?

 

[v] Unvote [/v]

 

Gonna wait till i see more plus my vote may have to go elsewhere.

 

??

 

 i was wondering about Yates...then this...

 

 

Yes, but didn't you also say he was town?

I think only when I mixed him up with Zander as EP's mason buddy?

 

 

So now Im trying to determine whats what.

[Hallia]

 

Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I can't help that you don't know what it looks like to help Town. *shrug*

Got it, ignore Yates until he's civil.

[Yates]

I lean towards believing Yates for now though...

Why?

[Andrej]

Claiming Vig with NK immunity sounds more like a SK to me, especially in a game that all but guarantees multiple non town elements.

 

I'm not going to invest a lot into the character claim because I know Darthe has a pension for providing safe claims. If I'm remembering correctly the entire team had them in the Red Wedding game. It's also not something I would put past a scum!Yates to bread crumb early thinking he could skate on it with a good fake claim in his pocket.

[Sooh]

 

I lean towards believing Yates for now though...

Why?

 

I do believe many have said that it would be a bad idea to lynch a claimed vig D1, plus also some of your earlier posts yesterday and today were more geared towards solving who's what, which is something I hadn't seen in you up until then. 

[Yates]

No. I voted Yates because i didn't like the way he was defending himself, and because of the posts of his people were linking.

So you think it's okay to vote for a claimed Town PR without having read the game because "meh - yates who is always disappointed in me when I slank is acting disappointed in me for slanking?"

[Leelou]

 

Remember this whole onion conversation we had and you wouldn't give me a straight answer?

I do remember the onion conversation. And I do remember giving you a straight answer several times. And I remember my answer being that I was trying to understand his thought process. And I remember telling you that I was trying to understand his thought process in order to determine his alignment. And I remember thinking that was about as straight of an answer as I could give you.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I probably should have made that two separate questions but was rushing before being called in for an appointment. Basically just wondering if you have a specific  lean on Zander and/or Sooh.

Sure. For both of these reads I will have to dig in a bit deeper to define them better but I can give you some off the hip stuff?

 

I'm leaning towards *more likely than not* Scum on Zander. [YW, Clov]

 

Sooh is a little tougher. She came out of the starting lines wolfy. I'm also surprised at her surprisingly low effort [in terms of both post count and content] considering her mentor. While I'm not holding that against her specifically, my concern is that I know she was excited about the game and the situation so I was expecting to see a lot more volume from a Town Sooh. And that's not happening. I'm not ready to call her scum yet, but she's firmly entrenched in the "I've got my eye on you" null pile.

 

 

 

 

All of this communication was based on my feeling on Zander. Yet By Yates' own words he likes Tina's case on Zander. If you're under the assumption I were hinting Mason as you say you are, why are trusting a case on the only person I defended?

Oh I'm sorry, did you hard claim something somewhere that I missed? No? Okay then, I'm just going to go ahead and read Zander independent of your possibly maybe but could be not sort of soft claim. I can like Tina's RATIONAL independent of the accuracy of the read. You understand this, yes? Short of you hard claiming or somehow confirming your role? I think Zander is objectively *looking* scummy.

 

 

 

**side note: answering for Sili**

 

 

Yates you were agreeing with Sili alot on ep subject, and stated you liked the vote.

Did you find the unvote natural like ep?

Oh. That's why it didn't stand out. He did the right thing. I assumed he unvoted because:

let suffice to know that Zander is town any more than that is unnecessary at this time.

Basically, it looked like EP dropped a PR knowledge hint so Sili decided this was a bad place to prod. This is my assumption because those were my thoughts at the time, as stated in thread.

 

[Niniel]

Okay. Read the rest. I see that Yates claimed BP Vig. It seems like an unlikely claim but whatever. I still need to re-read his posts to make up my mind about him but I doubt he will be lynched today. I´m sorry, but that has to be it for me today. 

[Talya]

Unfortunately I'm out of here soon...I won't be around for the deadline if it only 8 hours away? 

 

why are people voting Seth? quickly!

[Yates]

Claiming Vig with NK immunity sounds more like a SK to me, especially in a game that all but guarantees multiple non town elements.

 

I'm not going to invest a lot into the character claim because I know Darthe has a pension for providing safe claims. If I'm remembering correctly the entire team had them in the Red Wedding game. It's also not something I would put past a scum!Yates to bread crumb early thinking he could skate on it with a good fake claim in his pocket.

Two problems here:

 

1. You think there's going to be an SK in a multiball scenario? Okay. Possible. Guess you could judge that based on the results of the kill.

 

2. Did you see me bread crumbing a role? Did you see me even encouraging people to unvote me based on my role claim? Or did you see me state flatly that unvoting me for a character claim is just bad mafia?

[Leelou]

 

Remember this whole onion conversation we had and you wouldn't give me a straight answer?

I do remember the onion conversation. And I do remember giving you a straight answer several times. And I remember my answer being that I was trying to understand his thought process. And I remember telling you that I was trying to understand his thought process in order to determine his alignment. And I remember thinking that was about as straight of an answer as I could give you.

 

 

See, I remember me asking you if you still thought he was scummy and you never really answered that. Just said you wanted to see his thought process. Yet you've just said that you messed up Seph and Zander regarding EP's soft mason claim and having town on him. 

[Hallia]

I voted you before you claimed - nice try though

[Leelou]

I voted you before you claimed - nice try though

 

He claimed like his first post. 

[Hallia]

I did not see that, I'm going off our exchange in the now.

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count Nine:

 

 

Pizza (1/13): Eldrick

Yates (2/13): AJ, Leelou

Eldrick (1/13): Pizza

Alot (1/13): Yates

Sili (1/13): Talya

Seph (2/13): Sooh, EP

 

Not Voting (16/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Batassery, Laine, Tina, Sili, Seph, Dice, Zander, Verb, Hally

 

 

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch!  Deadline is 12:15 AM EST on Wednesday, the 13th.  

[Sili Quirrels]

So here's the deal.

 

I'm out in 30 minutes.

 

I'm going to flip a BP Town PR.

 

The PR may or may not have influenced the way I posted but these pushes have been objectively bad.

 

I suspect the scum on my wagon would be AJ, Hally, Verb - in that order. Sooh is also up there but has the excuse of being first on the wagon and too lazy to unvote.

 

Use that info as you see fit.

-_-

 

So insincere. I don't know if you're saying this to fake claim BP because you want scum to never kill you, or if you are fake claiming BP because you want to dodge a lynch, but this isn't about postmortem.

 

I don't believe you.

[Gabriel Kross]

Unfortunately I'm out of here soon...I won't be around for the deadline if it only 8 hours away? 

 

why are people voting Seth? quickly!

my vote goes back to his poor play in the first 10 pages. He hasn't really done anything since to waver my opinion on him.