Warehouse 13 Mafia- Mafia Wins!

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Your comment at the end about Yates' logic confuses me. You quoted his mention of Darthe mentoring. Darthe isn't mentoring me. He's mentoring Cass.

I know, his 'confusing' Nyn and Darthe as Sooh's mentor made me laugh. (sorry separate issues)

 

Yates logic as to why your voting a claimed mason is a bad idea made a lot more sense then his pushing of Hallia about the 'or mafia goon' (imo)

[BFG]

Also, welcome to the game!

Thanks :)

 

What sort of player are you, do you think about posts before writing them or just post what you think at the time?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Leelou/Verb are both 'looking' good individually, but their dynamic seems 'off'.

 

NotBob and Wombat are interesting, they seem to be viewing the game differently/not trying to conform, but I don't get the impression this means anything alignment wise from them. They're interpreting things very differently to me so far.

 

I think I'm leaning town on Eldrick so far.

 

Cass isn't making any impression so far, although I like and agree with the 'off the cuff' read of Dice, certainly a good starting point - she's said more reads, so it will be good to see what they'll be.

 

Hallia starting to get a bit concerning as I don't recall her commenting yet on anything outside of the Yates/Hallia discussion

 

Agree with this the most.

 

Also looks like a Wombat versus Verb/Leelou combination.  Not sure if that was intentional from them or not.

 

Also, do not like Hallia's FOS of anyone who votes her.

 

Like my vote currently but could move to Leelou on principle.

 

At least force a spirited defense.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Thanks :)

 

What sort of player are you, do you think about posts before writing them or just post what you think at the time?

 

More the second than the first. Sometimes I think about stuff at work.

[BFG]

Ok. Finally caught up on notes/summarising. Current (to page 28) impressions list as promised. If something sticks out as sketchy/you want further explanation let me know. Order is least to most suspicion. 

 

 

 

Dice -  Still willing to go out on a limb here (for now) and say mostly Town to me. Accusatory tone and aggressive action (meta-suggestive of Town). Some inconsistencies (realistically null). Potential to be scum buddying with white-knighting me (but equally null since he knows me best and everything he said in regards to me was true).

 

Lily - Tone and posts are clean. Agree with almost everything she says so far. 

 

Leelou  - Raises valid (mostly alignment-neutral points). Tone null. 

 

Verbal - Logical points (null). Tone a mix of jokey and serious. Still no idea how to read this guy.

Can everyone please keep him around for at least a few days unless something drastic changes???

 

 

Wombat - Tone mixed (?null). Makes valid points, pushes play forward. Logic in more serious/explanatory posts is easy to follow/tone in those posts seems good (null).

 

Sooh (mentored by Nyn) - At this point, four posts since beginning of game. Tone so far relaxed/confident (?null).

 

Alanna - Statements made are mostly null/equally applied to Scum or Town. Direct logic sound (null). Confused by some explanations. No idea how to read her tone.

 

Dawn/Mrs. Clov - waiting on replacement.

 

Not Bob - No discernible game motives/opinions. Tone neutral but...?smug? (Scummy, especially with questions). Can't tell if this is clever Town enjoyment, or deliberately closed-down scum (realistically null).

 

Thane - Mostly friendly and jokey like usual (null). Some more serious comments (without play/emotion where I would probably have expected some based on meta ?potentially scummy). Occasional word slips/contradictory comments (potential for scum). Possible over-corrective bias following the Arthurian game, where I finally started thinking I could pick when he was Town (and he was Scum).

 

Yates - Tone and attitude (as usual) mostly scum. No idea on the actual alignment of his strategic play. 

 

Pral - Didn't like initial tone (potentially null/scum). Playing along with Yates claim (so far null).

 

Hallia - More active and investigative than I've ever seen her (?null). Tone sounds aloof/pushy (?null/scum?). 

 

Eldrick - Don't follow or trust his logic or justifications for his actions/suggestions (scummy, based on gut). Not sure if this is realistically alignment indicative yet, or just the way he really thinks. Find him more confusing in general than I initially found Sili (as a player). Potential associative bias to read him scum (read him the same way whilst following the Arthurian game).

 

Sili - Convoluted thinking and occasional contradictions (still confusing but about the same as every game). Voting and vote rationale is weird/inconsistent. Some content/hinting is weird (?scum motivated). Tone seems to have changed since previous games (?scum).

I don't know what to make of this :/

 

I don't understand how you can agree with stuff people say, think they have good tone and have them as null?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Leelou/Verb are both 'looking' good individually, but their dynamic seems 'off'.

 

NotBob and Wombat are interesting, they seem to be viewing the game differently/not trying to conform, but I don't get the impression this means anything alignment wise from them. They're interpreting things very differently to me so far.

 

I think I'm leaning town on Eldrick so far.

 

Cass isn't making any impression so far, although I like and agree with the 'off the cuff' read of Dice, certainly a good starting point - she's said more reads, so it will be good to see what they'll be.

 

Hallia starting to get a bit concerning as I don't recall her commenting yet on anything outside of the Yates/Hallia discussion

 

Agree with this the most.

 

Also looks like a Wombat versus Verb/Leelou combination.  Not sure if that was intentional from them or not.

 

Also, do not like Hallia's FOS of anyone who votes her.

 

Like my vote currently but could move to Leelou on principle.

 

At least force a spirited defense.

 

On that note, why did you vote Hally? I didn't want to make the same mistake I made D1 with Sili's vote, and gave Hally a chance to respond. I don't think she's going to.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Leelou/Verb are both 'looking' good individually, but their dynamic seems 'off'.

 

NotBob and Wombat are interesting, they seem to be viewing the game differently/not trying to conform, but I don't get the impression this means anything alignment wise from them. They're interpreting things very differently to me so far.

 

I think I'm leaning town on Eldrick so far.

 

Cass isn't making any impression so far, although I like and agree with the 'off the cuff' read of Dice, certainly a good starting point - she's said more reads, so it will be good to see what they'll be.

 

Hallia starting to get a bit concerning as I don't recall her commenting yet on anything outside of the Yates/Hallia discussion

 

Agree with this the most.

 

Also looks like a Wombat versus Verb/Leelou combination.  Not sure if that was intentional from them or not.

 

Also, do not like Hallia's FOS of anyone who votes her.

 

Like my vote currently but could move to Leelou on principle.

 

At least force a spirited defense.

 

On that note, why did you vote Hally? I didn't want to make the same mistake I made D1 with Sili's vote, and gave Hally a chance to respond. I don't think she's going to.

 

 

I'm guessing she's scum.  Why else?

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Its D1  lynching inactives is a bad idea  D1 is to get INFO  

And lately Cass BEING online is abnormal atm actually. Mafia actually gets her more active cause she's soooo into it.

so 1. disagree strongly.

 

and 2. to the best of my knowledge cass has only played mafia once. Further, she was about as active then as she was when she was a villager, but all her content was focused on tunneling one player.

 

 

I disagree with the bold. I do admit that a lot of my tunneling was focused on you. Aiming for revenge?

 

Sili makes an interesting point though, once Sili was killed that game Cass 'lost heart/interest' but this game she isn't really looking at anyone at all yet, just leaving everyone as null. Think this is going to be a tough read, especially since I helped mislynch her last game, will see how this develops Day 2 :(

[Hallia]

Anyone? Hardly.  I've had Wombat and NB as my two scum for forever.  They've done nothing to change that.

 

Other people have voted me, and you don't see me doing that.  Dice I think also could be scum, but I'm not feeling it on Eld, Yates was obviously not scum.  So your point is invalid.

[dicetosser1]

Final Vote Count

 

Sili (6): Wombat, Not Bob, Alanna, Cass, Nol, Lily

Hally (2): Dice, Yates

Eldrick (1): Leelou

Leelou (1): Eldrick

No Lynch (1): Thane

Dice (1): Hally

Wombat (1): Sili

 

Not Voting (3): Pral, Verbal, Sooh

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Tuesday March 31st @ 4:30 pm MST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150331T1630&p0=3862&fg2=d390c2&msg=End+of+D1&csz=1

 

That's a lynch! (Since it's deadline)

 

 

Anyone? Hardly.  I've had Wombat and NB as my two scum for forever.  They've done nothing to change that.

 

Other people have voted me, and you don't see me doing that.  Dice I think also could be scum, but I'm not feeling it on Eld, Yates was obviously not scum.  So your point is invalid.

 

 

So then you define today (D2) as "forever"?? Cause D1 you ended voting me not Wombat and not Bob. And that vote was in direct response to my vote on you.

 

I note that Wombat had a vote on him at EOD1 but you stayed on me.

 

I also note you haven't given any real reasons for thinking im mafia.

 

I only remember you taking a shot at wombat after Verbal started on him D2

[Hallia]

Then you misremember, as I stated it in D1.

[dicetosser1]

i misremember which part?

[Hallia]

You trying to say my reads haven't been what they are for as long as I say they have, because they have.

[dicetosser1]

You trying to say my reads haven't been what they are for as long as I say they have, because they have.

 

quotes?

 

 

and i am saying that you were not voting your two biggest scum reads at EOD1

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Anyone? Hardly.  I've had Wombat and NB as my two scum for forever.  They've done nothing to change that.

 

Other people have voted me, and you don't see me doing that.  Dice I think also could be scum, but I'm not feeling it on Eld, Yates was obviously not scum.  So your point is invalid.

 

Really didn't take much to get you off Wombat when he was at 5 votes and Arsis came out with his doll schtick on Alanna...

 

I jumped on Alanna here as well...so yeah his point was compelling...but you left Wombat like a gal leaves a blind date who just admitted he was homeless...don't act like you were solidly on Wombat.

 

Official Vote Count

 

Hally (2): Dice, Wombat

 

Wombat (5): Verbal, Hally, Lily, Leelou, Eldrick

 

Alanna (2): Pral, Arsis

 

Leelou (1): Sooh

 

Arsis (1): NotBob

 

Not Voting (5): Alanna,Cass, Yates

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

 

Deadline is Monday April 6th at 4pm MST.

 

Countdown timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150406T16&p0=3862&msg=End+of+D2&csz=1

 

 

Opportunistic gymnastic.

[BFG]

Possibly relevant

 

 

 

I don't think he will. While I don't particularly have a town read on Womby I also don't have a scum read on him.

 

I'm glad you came back before EoD though.

 

Frowning faces to those who voted/didn't vote and bailed.

Then you misremember, as I stated it in D1.

 

[BFG]

Official Vote Count

 

Sili (1): Wombat

Hally (1): Dice

Yates (2): Sili, Sooh

Eldrick (2): NotBob, Yates

Pral (1): Eldrick

 

 

Not Voting (9): Leelou, Alanna, Lily, Dawn, Pral, Hally, Cass, Verbal, Thane

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Tuesday March 31st @ 9am MST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150331T09&p0=3862&fg2=d390c2&msg=End+of+D1&csz=1

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count

 

Sili (4): Wombat, Not Bob, Alanna, Cass

Hally (2): Dice, Yates

Eldrick (2): Nol, Leelou

Leelou (1): Eldrick

No Lynch (3): Thane, Lily, Sili

Dice (1): Hally

 

Not Voting (5): Pral, Cass, Verbal, Lily, Sooh

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Tuesday March 31st @ 4:30 pm MST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150331T1630&p0=3862&fg2=d390c2&msg=End+of+D1&csz=1

 

 

Final Vote Count

 

Sili (6): Wombat, Not Bob, Alanna, Cass, Nol, Lily

Hally (2): Dice, Yates

Eldrick (1): Leelou

Leelou (1): Eldrick

No Lynch (1): Thane

Dice (1): Hally

Wombat (1): Sili

 

Not Voting (3): Pral, Verbal, Sooh

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Tuesday March 31st @ 4:30 pm MST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150331T1630&p0=3862&fg2=d390c2&msg=End+of+D1&csz=1

 

That's a lynch! (Since it's deadline)

 

 

Placeholder, I have to be up for work in *4hours

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That didn't post right

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Leelou/Verb are both 'looking' good individually, but their dynamic seems 'off'.

 

NotBob and Wombat are interesting, they seem to be viewing the game differently/not trying to conform, but I don't get the impression this means anything alignment wise from them. They're interpreting things very differently to me so far.

 

I think I'm leaning town on Eldrick so far.

 

Cass isn't making any impression so far, although I like and agree with the 'off the cuff' read of Dice, certainly a good starting point - she's said more reads, so it will be good to see what they'll be.

 

Hallia starting to get a bit concerning as I don't recall her commenting yet on anything outside of the Yates/Hallia discussion

Agree with this the most.

 

Also looks like a Wombat versus Verb/Leelou combination. Not sure if that was intentional from them or not.

 

Also, do not like Hallia's FOS of anyone who votes her.

 

Like my vote currently but could move to Leelou on principle.

 

At least force a spirited defense.

On that note, why did you vote Hally? I didn't want to make the same mistake I made D1 with Sili's vote, and gave Hally a chance to respond. I don't think she's going to.

I'm guessing she's scum. Why else?

And I was wondering what your reasoning is. You don't seem to have anything backing up your votes.

[Hallia]

Oy D1 is painful to reread

 

At least I do see that Womby and I went back and forth.  Stopped after page 30, have a lot more to go.

 

Notbob hasn't really given any reasons, hence why I think he's scum.

 

Same with Wombat.  They're floating along, saying I'm scum, but neither provides actual reasoning.

[Hallia]

Because Wombat doesn't "case D1"

 

Welp, it's D2...

[Songstress]

Official Vote Count (Unchanged)

Not Bob (1): Eldrick
Wombat (3): Hally, Lily, Leelou
Hally (1): Not Bob
Leelou (1): Dice

Not Voting (6): Leelou, Pral, BFG, Cass, Verbal, Wombat

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline is Wenesday April 8th @ 4:30pm MST

Countdown timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150408T1630&p0=3862&fg2=80c2da&msg=End+of+D3&csz=1

[Cass]

Hey all, here and catching up.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

I did see how it could be used as fishing. If, for instance, only those that got triggers got roles, then the maf and vanilla would be in the ones that didn't.

 

But that's not the reason I want to know. Mainly because it probably doesn't correlate with the game. It's probably just harmless flavor, like character names.

More likely to come from town? (interested to see if anyone else sees/saw it), I'm guessing Leelou, Verb, NotBob didn't

 

I'm not really liking Leelou yet. Thus far her contributions are 'I'm here' posts and now to stop talking triggers and start talking game play. While I agree with the sentiment, she hasn't commented on any of the gameplay yet, and is commenting on Eldrick 'fishing'.

 

I quite like Cass's OP and agree. Dice is being very direct and looking at a number of different people for different alignments.

 

Eldrick, if you keep focusing on the distraction instead of the game, you're going to get my vote as well.

Similar position to Leelou, thus far Eldrick has made 3 posts(?) on it, 2 in response to someone else.

 

NotBob, trolling, sort of.

 

Lily comes in with the 'Yates stop relying on a claim and scumhunt' yet hasn't offered up reads yet, Hallia likes her vibe though.

 

@ eldrick re yates try factoring in HOW he did it. he did it early he gave specifics and his tone is clean.

 

has he been defensive?? yes he has but that's cause people have this idea that lynching claimed masons D1 is a good thing. Its not. Do we need to watch them in case we are getting scammed? Its YATES! of COURSE we do but if their play doesn't back their claim then we relook at them but definetly not D1. especially as, unless we get a Power role claim yates is a prime candidate for NK tonight.

 

 

right now im thinking you are mafia too

This seems out of place, Yates was defensive long before Eldrick suggested lynching masons, but I like the aggressiveness.

 

 

 

lol@dice believing yates' claim.

 

 

millions of facepalms every second until the sun implodes.

 

he comes out mason and you are gonna owe me a HUGE apology itt sili

Quoted mostly for giggles

 

 

 

@Sili - they are likely masons. All Pral would have to do is say he isn't a Mason and we'd hyper lynch Yates.

 

Yates gets a pass for now. I don't want to hear any more on the Mason claim. In this instance, the mafia will help sort them out.

This shows 'good/logical' progression from Verb, I think - either that or its shocking inconsistency that isn't like Verb in any alignment.

 

 

@Sili - they are likely masons. All Pral would have to do is say he isn't a Mason and we'd hyper lynch Yates.

 

Yates gets a pass for now. I don't want to hear any more on the Mason claim. In this instance, the mafia will help sort them out.

This.

 

The mason team will sort itself out on the subsequent days. Laissez faire.

 

I'm not really agreeing with NotBob here, but I can see where he's coming from (not just this post, but in general).

 

 

@Sili - they are likely masons. All Pral would have to do is say he isn't a Mason and we'd hyper lynch Yates.

 

Yates gets a pass for now. I don't want to hear any more on the Mason claim. In this instance, the mafia will help sort them out.

^This. Although I just ISO'd Pral's posts. At one point he seems to be going along with the mason thing, then responds to Hallia again. Here are all his posts in order. Spoilered.

 

 

 

 

So, yeah, I had no idea the game had started.

 

So, I had no posts so far.

 

So, no triggers hit.

 

Hence, vanilla town.

 

Carry on.

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible not posting is a trigger. =)

Stop role fishing!

 

Fine. The pressure is too great. Pral and I are Masons.

 

Are you HAPPY?? Now we are exposed. Swinging in the wind. With targets on our backs. Thanks a LOT, Sili...

 

Check the QT. Something I noticed.

 

 

 

 

The SCUM QT!

 

 

:p

Nudge

 

 

:)

 

 

 

I'm suspicious because you tried to make it seem like you could onnnnnly be VT Pral, and as people other than me have also said, there were alternatives

No, I never said i can only be VT. I said there was no possibility for me to get a role and hence am vanilla. There is a difference.

 

 

And Leelou gets into the game :)

 

I'll be honest, something between her and Verb isn't sitting right. I'm up to page 28 and there have been no 'snuggles', Leelou is responding to Verb, but he's not talking back yet.

 

Wombat comes in with his Sili sequence of posts, not sure what to make of Wombat yet, like with NotBob, I maybe understand why he's commenting on the things, but I'm context of the game so far they're not stuff that seems strage to me, but maybe that's the benefit of reading with flips.

 

Yates is a lot more logical with Eldrick.

 

 

 

EBWOP - point 1 is something I was hoping you would have spoken with your mentor about before voting. Did you? Because this is absolutely something I would have spoken with you about if you had me instead of the inferior player known as Darthe.

 

 

 

Yeah, Verb comes in on page 33 without responding to Leelou.

 

Intrigued to see if anyone else comments on this, what Lily/Wombat/Dice think.

 

 

I'm not exactly sure what you'd like me to comment on. I think Verb is solidly town. I can usually tell when he's scum by a gut feeling. I wish I could be more exact as to how I sniff him out, but I don't really know. As for Leelou, I had her in my town pile, but you're right about the lack of her casual interaction with Verb. It's almost as if she's avoiding him. She's in my null pile for now, and I'm watching her. 

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Pretty much that.

 

It's been a while since I've played with them both at the same time, I wondered if their 'shared' meta had changed off site.

 

What's interesting to me at the moment is that you and NotBob both say that Leelou is avoiding Verb, but on Day 1 it's a mutual thing, in as far as casual interaction goes.

 

See what Day 2 brings