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Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

Basel Gill

By Basel Gill
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Lenlo Spam Master

Lenlo

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Considering I don't think he's mafia? I hope so.

I know your opinion and I disagree with it. So meh :P

Turin Turambar Spam Master

Turin Turambar

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That sounds like a real dilemma. But there are only two choices.

 

Ask and answer two simple questions...What makes you think I am town? What makes you think I'm not? Which is stronger?

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Turin your last several posts are really, REALLY getting on my nerves.

 

I really don't care that you're voting me, I learned long ago to get over that you'll often read me wrongly, so meh w/e. But your insistence that Pray is town, along with the implication that you have some secret investigation result of some kind but won't tell anyone, is really annoying. First of all, I doubt you even have some kind of result like that, for multiple reasons. We've already seen two investigative roles flip, and unless Krak is lying and is scum, that's 3 roles that can investigate individuals for town. It's extremely hard for me to believe you have a 4th investigative role of some kind.

 

However, that's not the annoying thing, the annoying thing is you acting like we should take your word as gospel just because we read you as town. You should know it doesn't freaking work like that. Acting all coy about this is only hurting town. I am voting Pray at the moment because I believe Rags left behind a hint of who he viewed.

 

IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF INVESTIGATIVE RESULT OR SOMETHING THAT DEFINITIVELY SHOWS THAT IS NOT THE CASE, YOU SHOULD REVEAL THAT INFO. PERIOD.

 

Acting coy about it or saying we should either believe you or vote you is only serving to hamper our main task here- catching the freaking scum.

 

I suspect you're only saying you know Pray is town because you now think I'm scum and I'm voting him, but using that type of reasoning to justify telling everyone you KNOW Pray is town is ludicrous. Mostly because the initial point you use for the basis there is wrong- I'm not scum.

 

So again, poop or get off the pot, and tell us how you KNOW Pray is town, so that way if it's a legit investigation result of some kind we can move on to finding out who the actual scum are.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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And btw, when I voted for you I forgot about Krak shooting you. For a while I was paying a lot more attention to other games, and kinda lost track of this one. I wanted to do a reread, but then saw that there were over 100 pages so a reread wouldn't be that easy, so went with my gut. Csarmi started looking town again since it looked way too unlikely that he'd use his health issues irl as a scum ploy, so I looked at those who were still adamant about him being town. You stuck out for that reason, and because I thought you were trying to set me up for a lynch.

 

When I got back online that night, I started putting all the claims together again and remembered Krak claiming to shoot you, so I realized I was likely off on the wrong track, so unvoted you.

 

As for pointing out that you were likely a protective role of some kind, first of all man, come on dude. You really think the scum would have missed that Krak said he shot you N1 but it failed? If Krak is town, they would have guessed at that point that you were likely Doc or something. If Krak is scum, well then they would have known even before Krak said that on thread. So I didn't really reveal anything on thread, not anything that scum wouldn't already have known.

 

More importantly, I think town has been chasing the wrong leads for a while now. Part of this is my fault, I think I got too wrapped up in my theory that Chae defended Thane cause she saw he was the Symp and wanted to save him, and thought I had #solved the game when I hadn't. I came to the realization that if scum had a JOAT, it wasn't unreasonable for town to have one too, and that Chae claiming JOAT on thread actually made her less likely to be scum there (this was somewhat of a recent revelation fyi). My read changing on Csarmi also supported this, and I realized his defense of Chae early on was likely a legit defense of someone he thought as town (my read slowly changing on Krak also supported this). After realizing this, I then realized that my thought that Hallia could still be scum was likely confbias, and that she was likely town as well.

 

All of this brought me to the realization I needed to reevaluate everything.

 

As it stands now, I think Rags viewed Pray as scum and left behind a breadcrumb in case he died. If you have something that disproves that notion, by all means let me hear it. Since I think you are town and just got lost in a tunnel on Csarmi (I know you happen to have a weakness for getting lost in tunnels in mafia games), I'm now suspecting Tsuki and Tina to be scum. Tsuki for his antagonistic push on Csarmi the last few days, and Tina for her scumtastic vote on Csarmi a bit ago, where she hedged it with her read of Lenlo. Speaking of Lenlo, he STILL thinks Csarmi is scum, even tho I've made it fairly clear for the past day or so that this is HIGHLY unlikely due to the level of Csarmi's histrionics. I also think Rags might have viewed Lenlo N1 and left a breadcrumb to that, but I'm not NEARLY as confident in that as I am about the Pray breadcrumb, so if Pray actually is town, then Lenlo jumps up my scumdar as well

 

And that about sums up my thoughts on the game currently.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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i admit there is one way for a doc to know but it makes no sense in this game.

 

 

Turin you are giving me more questions then answers here and thats not good.

There hasn't been a night with no deaths

 

I assume that's the way you were talking about, already considered that

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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i admit there is one way for a doc to know but it makes no sense in this game.

 

 

Turin you are giving me more questions then answers here and thats not good.

There hasn't been a night with no deaths

 

I assume that's the way you were talking about, already considered that

 

 

nope  that was too obvious for me lol   i was thinking perhaps a doc who dies if he protects a mafia.

 

 

Csarmi has a point. Did he say he was THE doc? or just claim Watson?

 

I think Tina is mafia

 

the more i think about it the more i think tsuki is too.

 

i actually dont think len is tho. Cant point to a reason. Gut feel really.

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