Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[Turin Turambar]

 

No lynch agreed = random with no coroner.

 

This makes it even more important to achieve lynch for the mafia if they can save themselves, say via a governor. I saw Thane vote himself twice including a self hammer. Chae voted herself when under pressure, csarmi voted himself to ensure he got lynched. If the governor can't save a random which makes sense, then mafia woul be willing to both self vote and bus freely. At least until the governor ability lasts. But csarmi says he won't self vote tomorrow. I guess that means hallia is all out of forged pardons. Lol

 

That also explains her willingness to be lynched tomorrow. She is just a vote for her team now.

[Lenlo]

 

No lynch agreed = random with no coroner.

This makes it even more important to achieve lynch for the mafia if they can save themselves, say via a governor. I saw Thane vote himself twice including a self hammer. Chae voted herself when under pressure, csarmi voted himself to ensure he got lynched. If the governor can't save a random which makes sense, then mafia woul be willing to both self vote and bus freely. At least until the governor ability lasts. But csarmi says he won't self vote tomorrow. I guess that means hallia is all out of forged pardons. Lol

 

That also explains her willingness to be lynched tomorrow. She is just a vote for her team now.

 

Ooooh good catch. I hadnt considered that type of use of the Governor.

[csarmi]

Turin.

 

I meant I won't vote myself tomorrow either. Just like I didn't do today.

 

I went for consolidation only.

[csarmi]

I suggest we lynch the Mafia.

[csarmi]

Alright.

 

I've had just about enough of you guys.

 

I'm out.

 

I'll add my votes and nothing else in the future.

 

You can derp however you want.

[Turin Turambar]

In b4 csarmi comes back again. LOL

 

 

No worries. I feel a speedlynch coming on.

[csarmi]

 

[Niniel]

So many weird things about the end of last day:

 

1. I still don´t get why people are voting me. For those who wonder why I didn´t show up - I was sleeping.

2. The train on Krak died. 

3. Csarmi selfvoting. (The third player doing it this game.)

4. Hallia saving Csarmi. 

 

I will have to go back and see who voted who in the end. 

[dicetosser1]

damned multiquote wont work.

 

@rags   Random with no coroner is very normal on DM and you have been here enough to know that.

 

   also generally the mods give out fake CLAIMS  not  fake ROLES to mafia and they dont always do that. In this game i would think there are not enough charachters for fake claims to be given. Especially as I started as toby the Dog.

[dicetosser1]

@tina   i voted you cause i want to hear more from you. the responses i got were fairly uninformative. That makes me think you are mafia. If you are not then prove it to me.

[dicetosser1]

RE hally.

 

Remember I actually believe csarmis claim

 

It makes sense for a MAFIA govenor to save a town csarmi. He is such a center of debate and WIFOM that it is an advantage to the mafia to have him alive.

 

Hallys playing of this role has me thinking she is mafia

 

1 she suddenly claims it during the gladiator for no real reason. She was under no pressure.

 

2 she gets democratic about whether to use it or not

 

3 when she DOES use it the democracy is now gone

 

4 she uses it on a role that as TOWN gov she should have let die due to what i stated above.

 

 

Now the 1st point has to do with both when and why she did it and my views on how to play that role.

 

I admit its my view and i am not all knowing.  shocking i know. sorry to the disillusioned.

 

for me that role is one you dont claim unless you have to, and the only ways you have to is if you are about to get lynched  then do it early, or after you have used the ability. Claiming early, being democratic is not town play. it creates IFOM because there is a mafia version of the role. It also, if you are not mafia gives them a PR to shoot and causes the Doc a harder decision.

[dicetosser1]

re Rags

 

he has gone down my list. starting to lean mafia on him.  The Pral vote near DL   and dont gimme that i just wanted to say it crap  the stuff about not knowing the no lynch rules.

 

  Rags if you are gonna play read the rules bro! Otherwise you will turn up to a soccor game with a bowling ball.

[dicetosser1]

Len    like Tina   play the game bro. tell me what you are thinking.

 

same goes to pral. 

 

Im about an inch away from starting to lynch the quiet ones. I think there be mafia there.

 

and yes im suddenly talking a lot cause there is a good chance i will get killed again. I want my thoughts out there for consideration in that case.  and it never hurts.

 

 

@Turin   do me a favor. Think about RAGS. Take ALL Ithi's stuff out. Just look at rags since he came in. If Ithi had never been in this game, just rags had, so assuming D1 never happened, what would you think of him? What would your read be?

[TheRagnarok]

damned multiquote wont work.

 

@rags   Random with no coroner is very normal on DM and you have been here enough to know that.

 

   also generally the mods give out fake CLAIMS  not  fake ROLES to mafia and they dont always do that. In this game i would think there are not enough charachters for fake claims to be given. Especially as I started as toby the Dog.

I played a couple games here(no clue what the voting rules were) and haven't been around for months.  So that's a pretty baseless assumption.

 

And yeah, I usually never read the rules.  Or instructions when it comes to building things.  Or anything like that. 

[Turin Turambar]

The slot remains the same unless you ate saying theres a recruiter out there. Ithi was no doubt about it town. Plus she claimed inspector lestade. You yourself said there are not likely fake character claims. So is the inspector going to be mafia? I doubt it.

 

I have looked at rags since he joined. I have him town on his own actions as well. I will try to show why when I stop today or when I get home tomorrow.

 

Break over. Driving again.

[Turin Turambar]

Rags first line is enough for me to put him down as town. 

 

@Rags the crucial information you're missing is that Chae is my bonded (and I have a good idea about how she's playing Mafia and all) and Tgane is Char's husband.

Also Thane has some history of playing as scummy as possible when town.

The crucial information you're missing is that I 1.  don't care  2.  won't let scummy people off the hook because of things outside the game and 3.  don't care.

 

Pretty easy to confirm that I mean what I say BTW.

Just lynch me. Vig me.

Also I called for a shot on Turin. Did you miss that?

*facepalm*

 

Just think about how stupid is that. The real miller (if any.. and pretty likely to exist one here of all games) cc's and I'd have managed to die and confirm a town hindrance role.

In what world that makes sense, I dunno.

I have a question, do mods here ever give scum safe fakeclaims?

 

I mean, this defense is hilariously awful anyways, but I want to see just how bad it is.

 

Rags is asking the right questions in an attempt to get to the truth. to actually solve the game. In a game like this where there may not be enough characters to give safe fake character claims (and some characters appear to be grey depending on if non-canon things are used) there might be a single fake role given. Miller might well be the role on the table. But it doesn't even have to be a truly safe claim if it could be ascertained that the likelyhood of a miller is low. Then it is worth the shot especially if played right. One other note about this and I will try to find the quote. Somewhere along the way Csarmi says it is "the perfect claim". It should just be the truth. 

 

Also, what happened to "just lynch me" if he meant it he would have told Hallia to not save him. When you claim miller you accept that you may have to be lynched to clear up your role. Which means that as a townie your flip will vindicate you. I guess Csarmi is too important to accept his proper fate. 

[Turin Turambar]

 

Csarmi, what townie thing have you done? You say you are obvious townie and yet I haven't seen anything townie. Sketchy claim, no cases just calling people scum, self-voting, and FOSing everyone who disagrees with you.

 

Which of that of townie behavior?

Perfect claim with the right timing. Also claim that can only be town and wasn't CC'd. You simply lie.

 

I have been honest, transparent and acted pro town the whole game. Trying to read people you know. Be my guest anD try to be casing from phone... Not that casing is my style.

 

Fosing people who disagree is simply a lie.

 

Self voting. Yea I voted to consolidate at deadline looming. You seriously can't be that thick so yes I'm questioning your agenda... I have been clear on who I'd like to lynch most (Despo). Consolidated on Tina (who I think scum) and voted. Then I stayed up until almost three a.m. to be able to consolidate on the lynch and helped avoiding possible random when about to logout. You're trying to misrep this is just do horribly wrong I don't even know what to say really. Do you believe people don't read the exchanges of the last 24 hours or what? If I was scum all I needed to do is vote my best "read" and log out.

 

This is it. He is town because he made the perfect claim with the right timing? No, that means you took a shot and it worked. There have been a fair number of people trying to claim miller over time. Now that the book of Darthe say you must claim it right away the only way to get away with claiming miller is to do so right away. 

 

You sound like you are trying to do a bad impression of Cory or Tommy. You have not been transparent, or pro town. Your sheeple vote on Lenlo and you call to have me shot are two examples of the top of my head. 

 

The last line has already been disputed as the governor can only save a lynched person. A random would still take a mafia and Hallia would be able to nothing about it. Your work to ensure that lynch can easily be seen as making sure that a mafia person was not randomly MK'ed due to failure to complete a lynch. 

 

I think you need to have your team kill me. Or maybe you should just try to kill hallia and then claim vig when she flips mafia. LOL

[Turin Turambar]

Good night now. I will be home tomorrow night and may be able to do more then.

[Turin Turambar]

It's too quiet.

 

 

*three shots ring out*

 

 

Thanks Cindy, our little secret.

[csarmi]

And so it was that later

When the miller told his tale

That her face at first just ghostly

Turned a whiter shade of pale

[csarmi]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfWDBJ_LeP0

[TheRagnarok]

Booooooored.  Why it take so long get PM in?

[hazelkrs1]

Message to all my current games:

 

Sorry, gonna have to catchup when I'm back at work tomorrow night, took forever to get my game started and got a crap ton of stuff to do today

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

*****modkills des****

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

j/k

 

sorta....