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I see Des and Cory going back and forth here, and then Nyn jumping in to defend her new BFF.  I actually side with Des on this (can't believe I just said that)......

 

 

 

Bolded - It's a mid summer romance since my DM-hubby can't keep me happy :tongue:

 

Italic - If it's any comfort, I can't believe it either xD

 

 

 

Nyn

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i'll try to make something out of this post, and hope it'll make some sense.

 

Slot01 - Cory: Haven't had the honor of playing with him yet, but for the moment, i like his posts and activity in the game. One of my biggest townleans for the moment.
Slot02 - BFG: dunno.... would like to see more, but her current posts give me the bejeebus.... scumlean on her.
Slot03 - Clov: Makes decent posts, don't have a bad feeling about him or his style. Townlean
Slot04 - Despo: interesting fellow. I read through his little WoT, and noticed that he was giving me a scumlean on the fact that i mentioned that i have a hard time reading people. My post he never did point out however was the one where i told Cory that i was town. Did he miss it accidentally or on purpose? Also find his recent interaction with Leelou interesting. Leelou stating "I was purely spamming and made like 2 or 3 game comments." was enough to unvote and vote dice. Dice being the main train for the moment, if i recall correctly. Scumlean on Des... 
Slot05 - Tina: From her current gameplay, townfeel for the moment. Though, as usual, i'd like to see a bit more.
Slot06 - Thane: Not his really usual self this game. Stated that RL got him busy, which i can get. He hates to fakeclaim, so he's town for me
Slot07 - RTE: not much from him to go on... nothing out of the ordinary anyways. Townlean
Slot08 - Andrej: one of my other more solid townleans. Though, i can be totally mistaken, as i have been fooled by him before. Still, going for town right now due to his posting and gameplay
Slot09 - Lazy: Lazy is Lazy. lots of jokes, no real gamecontent from him that i can remember. Null for now
Slot10 - Nynaeve: lots of joking, some serious posts. Nothing from her that rings any alarmbells, townlean for now
Slot11 - Pralaya: wish he'd be more active.... the only things i saw from him make me give him a scumlean
Slot12 - Hallia: don't recall any of her posts.... null for the moment.
Slot13 - Dice: bad little dice is scum. Unless he starts to get his act together and convince me, and everybody else, otherwise.
Slot14 - Mish: i lol'd at the lockgrumpy.... first game with Mish, but what i read so far has me switching between null and scumlean. Timethingy was iffy... nothing noteable posted from what i recall
Slot15 - Verbal: conflicted, i am. Either he's town and playing well, or he's scum with des and playing even better. Not trusting Verbal for now, null read, seeing i can't decide between town and scum
Slot16 - Leelou: doubt she's scum. She explains herself, the why and how, and i didn't really get the feeling to go vote against her when her little train got off. Townlean for now

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Votecount 1.04

Leelou: 2 - Dice, Mish
Verbal: 1 - Lazy
Dice: 4 - Clov, RTE, Nyn, Despo
Mish: 2 - Leelou, Hally

Pray: 1 - AJ

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

Not voting: Cory, BFG, Tina, Thane, Pray, Verbal

 

Deadline Saturday 7 pm GMT - Day 1 deadline

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I see Des and Cory going back and forth here, and then Nyn jumping in to defend her new BFF.  I actually side with Des on this (can't believe I just said that)......

 

 

 

Bolded - It's a mid summer romance since my DM-hubby can't keep me happy :tongue:

 

Italic - If it's any comfort, I can't believe it either xD

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

Ouch.  Your words cut.  They cut deep.

 

 

 

 

FYI - I got a new job and it starts tomorrow, so I'll be around during commutes and lunch only.

 

GRATS!!!!!

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Grats!

 

 

 

Nyn

TY *licks* 

 

*congrats Leelou*

TY :happy: 

 

 

FYI - I got a new job and it starts tomorrow, so I'll be around during commutes and lunch only.

 

GRATS!!!!!

 

TY *snuggles* 

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Ok here for an hour or so before I'm out, I'm going to catch up on the new stuff before going back to what I skimmed yesterday.

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went to respond to tina this morning but got hit with CF. On a short lunch now so will just respond with what i remember without the quote.

 

my concern with leelou is her telling us to watch mish for a post restriction. She seemed to know something others didn't. Who else knows things others dont?? Mafia thats who. I hadn't noticed mish doing anything to hint at one so that pinged me.

 

Re BFG?? asking why leelou and not AJ or Verb?  Cause she is the one who stood out to me and i dont even remember them doing it.

 

back to Tina. Role fishing?  only if you call using dynamite fishing. I was pretty blatant about it. There was a bit of talk about you liking marvin or having a post restriction. I have no idea who the main charachters are as, as said earlier, I dont remember the book. Hence I asked flat out to get rid of wifom. Notice I gave you options regarding marvin. Some of them would allow you to not claim, eg i love marvin. I also didnt ask you to claim if you were someone else.

 

Is there something about this theme that makes people think there is likely to be more post restrictions then normal? cause its been bought up a bit and imo prs arnt all that common on DM.

 

So you remember the conversation but not the people conversing?

 

I've grabbed some of the conversation, but not all.

 

 

 

 

 

@BFG - do you have a post restriction to do that? Just wondering what to expect. :-)

Same question for Tina.

 

Edit: damn mobile :dry:

 

Ok forreal g2g now

 

I like the bottom post a lot, and I think he (perhaps unintentionally) made a nice discovery about Verbal. First post shows a decent interest in the game (which I admit, is hard to do with what we've had so far), but I need him to expand on a couple of the points - namely the second and third - before I can put any faith in it being different than his larger catch up posts from the Vendetta game.

 

Discovery about me? What discovery?

 

 

I just found it somewhat odd that you directed that question to BFG alone.  Andre was correct in calling Tina out for the same thing, so it was odd that you wouldn't have included her as well.

 

 

 

@Clov - I noticed it more with BFG, and she had posted and was in the front of my mind.

 

 

Tina loves Marvin, so I wouldn't put it past her to just be having some fun. If it continues for much longer, than I'd assume post restriction. I'd also look at Mish for a post restriction.

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Ok, I'll respond to Des in a bit. I want to try and finish catching up first.

 

Oh, my townread on Lazy has gone down. Since being called townie by a few players, he has mainly just fluffed along and hasn't made any sincere attempts to scumhunt at all. Add to that BFG's townreading him because of his OP, and yeah he dun look as good anymore.

 

Oooh and that reminds me- RTE's OP (BFG parroted others on that as well). It didn't look good to me, and his recap was pretty meh as well, but I wanted to wait and see what else he posted before coming to a decision. RTE has a knack for looking extremely scummy as town, and he's often targeted for mislynches by scum when he is town.

 

Okay, bbl

Lol, never said I had a town or mafia read on Lazy or RTE, just that I liked/disliked their OP.

 

Reminds me though @RTE 42, that is all. 

 

Apologies for me not being my active self, i have some RL things i need to take care of and they take more time than i figured.

 

I will try to reread through everything and post something a bit more constructive later on

Will wait.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254370 (noted for later)

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@BFG - what is your general thought then on what you're quoting for Dice?  I'm not sure I follow.

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FYI - I got a new job and it starts tomorrow, so I'll be around during commutes and lunch only.

Congratulations :)

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Almost there then.

 

 

@BFG - what is your general thought then on what you're quoting for Dice?  I'm not sure I follow.

Basically I don't understand that he remembers that there was a conversation around Tina and mine possible PR, seems to know that that wasn't from Leelou, since he's only questioning her about Mish, but can't remember who was involved.

 

My opinion is that it's all null, given the context of conversation and fluff at the time. RTE's broken posting could be another possible PR (42 words) but I suspect he's just having fun with it as it wasn't in his first post.

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Ok, I'll respond to Des in a bit. I want to try and finish catching up first.

 

Oh, my townread on Lazy has gone down. Since being called townie by a few players, he has mainly just fluffed along and hasn't made any sincere attempts to scumhunt at all. Add to that BFG's townreading him because of his OP, and yeah he dun look as good anymore.

 

Oooh and that reminds me- RTE's OP (BFG parroted others on that as well). It didn't look good to me, and his recap was pretty meh as well, but I wanted to wait and see what else he posted before coming to a decision. RTE has a knack for looking extremely scummy as town, and he's often targeted for mislynches by scum when he is town.

 

Okay, bbl

Lol, never said I had a town or mafia read on Lazy or RTE, just that I liked/disliked their OP.

 

Reminds me though @RTE 42, that is all. 

 

Apologies for me not being my active self, i have some RL things i need to take care of and they take more time than i figured.

 

I will try to reread through everything and post something a bit more constructive later on

Will wait.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254370 (noted for later)

 

 

Yikes.  This is getting close to semantics.  When people are saying they "like this post by XYZ", or they "like XYZ's play this game", it is almost always attributed to a pro-town feeing.  If we simply thought it was funny or clever, a "lol" or smiley would have been used.  Or in Cory's case, about 12 gifs.  ;-)

 

But you're kinda backtracking here with a borderline semantic defense.  Not sure what to think of that.

 

As I said before, and Des has also mentioned since then, the key to scumhunting you is the mid-game WoT catchup reads post.  I'll abstain from having an opinion on you until then.

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i'll try to make something out of this post, and hope it'll make some sense.

 

Slot01 - Cory: Haven't had the honor of playing with him yet, but for the moment, i like his posts and activity in the game. One of my biggest townleans for the moment.

Slot02 - BFG: dunno.... would like to see more, but her current posts give me the bejeebus.... scumlean on her.

Slot03 - Clov: Makes decent posts, don't have a bad feeling about him or his style. Townlean

Slot04 - Despo: interesting fellow. I read through his little WoT, and noticed that he was giving me a scumlean on the fact that i mentioned that i have a hard time reading people. My post he never did point out however was the one where i told Cory that i was town. Did he miss it accidentally or on purpose? Also find his recent interaction with Leelou interesting. Leelou stating "I was purely spamming and made like 2 or 3 game comments." was enough to unvote and vote dice. Dice being the main train for the moment, if i recall correctly. Scumlean on Des... 

Slot05 - Tina: From her current gameplay, townfeel for the moment. Though, as usual, i'd like to see a bit more.

Slot06 - Thane: Not his really usual self this game. Stated that RL got him busy, which i can get. He hates to fakeclaim, so he's town for me

Slot07 - RTE: not much from him to go on... nothing out of the ordinary anyways. Townlean

Slot08 - Andrej: one of my other more solid townleans. Though, i can be totally mistaken, as i have been fooled by him before. Still, going for town right now due to his posting and gameplay

Slot09 - Lazy: Lazy is Lazy. lots of jokes, no real gamecontent from him that i can remember. Null for now

Slot10 - Nynaeve: lots of joking, some serious posts. Nothing from her that rings any alarmbells, townlean for now

Slot11 - Pralaya: wish he'd be more active.... the only things i saw from him make me give him a scumlean

Slot12 - Hallia: don't recall any of her posts.... null for the moment.

Slot13 - Dice: bad little dice is scum. Unless he starts to get his act together and convince me, and everybody else, otherwise.

Slot14 - Mish: i lol'd at the lockgrumpy.... first game with Mish, but what i read so far has me switching between null and scumlean. Timethingy was iffy... nothing noteable posted from what i recall

Slot15 - Verbal: conflicted, i am. Either he's town and playing well, or he's scum with des and playing even better. Not trusting Verbal for now, null read, seeing i can't decide between town and scum

Slot16 - Leelou: doubt she's scum. She explains herself, the why and how, and i didn't really get the feeling to go vote against her when her little train got off. Townlean for now

Bajeebus huh? Care to point out what it is you don't like about my posts?

 

Actually Des did point out that you eventually claimed Town. And Pral's your other mafia lean? Again, care to point out what it is about his posts you don't like, I'm assuming there must be something since you have other quiet people as null.

 

 

 

 

If his reads are any indication I think I have a stronger townread on Thane than Thane does

Lol

 

 

 

Ok, I'll respond to Des in a bit. I want to try and finish catching up first.

 

 

Oh, my townread on Lazy has gone down. Since being called townie by a few players, he has mainly just fluffed along and hasn't made any sincere attempts to scumhunt at all. Add to that BFG's townreading him because of his OP, and yeah he dun look as good anymore.

 

Oooh and that reminds me- RTE's OP (BFG parroted others on that as well). It didn't look good to me, and his recap was pretty meh as well, but I wanted to wait and see what else he posted before coming to a decision. RTE has a knack for looking extremely scummy as town, and he's often targeted for mislynches by scum when he is town.

 

Okay, bbl

Lol, never said I had a town or mafia read on Lazy or RTE, just that I liked/disliked their OP.

 

Reminds me though @RTE 42, that is all. 

 

Apologies for me not being my active self, i have some RL things i need to take care of and they take more time than i figured.

 

I will try to reread through everything and post something a bit more constructive later on

Will wait.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3254370 (noted for later)

 

 

Yikes.  This is getting close to semantics.  When people are saying they "like this post by XYZ", or they "like XYZ's play this game", it is almost always attributed to a pro-town feeing.  If we simply thought it was funny or clever, a "lol" or smiley would have been used.  Or in Cory's case, about 12 gifs.  ;-)

 

But you're kinda backtracking here with a borderline semantic defense.  Not sure what to think of that.

 

As I said before, and Des has also mentioned since then, the key to scumhunting you is the mid-game WoT catchup reads post.  I'll abstain from having an opinion on you until then.

 

Fair enough.

 

And onto Des, I'll start with grabbing the quotes I ran out of time to do yesterday.

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Ok, first point Leelou and Verb interaction. These are from the first 2 pages, but just look at the time stamps.

 

Hihi

 

 

 

Back to GOATranding!!!

 

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

I have no idea what this means.

 

 

 

[v]Tina[/v]

 

 

 

 

Back to GOATranding!!!

 

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

I have no idea what this means.

 

 

They speak a completely different language. I think we need a dictionary.

 

Des said that Leelou ignored Verb till the Spiderman gifs, this is false.

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Uh, you serious? Pretty obvious what the difference is here. Clov posts during the day, like a normal person. I post at night, like a vampire. He is able to react to everything realtime, minus the occasional ninja, I catch up on everything after most action has died down already. I kinda like just posting as I catch up lately, makes it very organic and hopefully lets others see me as town sooner, so I first reacted to Mish's post, then several pages later saw Clov talking about the joke. Wasn't much, but to me at the time it looked like it coulda been Clov trying to react naturally to banter but not doing it in the moment, moar catching up to everyone else. Plus, in this way scum can extend earlier joke conversations.

Above is Deep's response to me...

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

This is Clov's first post... incidentally about 40 minutes before Des's OP

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And unfortunately that may be me for the evening, I have to go vote, then it's salsa, if I'm back before midnight I'll finish responding to Des, and go back to what I skimmed yesterday. If not, then I'll have to wait till Friday evening.

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Clov, what I have open to Des ATM:

 
QUOTE CHOPS SAVE TIME, ENERGY, AND THE ASTRONAUT SORCERESS FLOATING AROUND IN SPACE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF AIR UNTIL RIVER PHOENIX FINDS A DRAGON SPACESHIP

 

think the bold is sort of what you are looking for, but I can't expand too much on how I feel until he gets back to me

 

He's in my light-villager pile, but my whole list seems a little over-town skewed ATM so there's a curve somewhere that I should probably get to placing  :laugh:

 

Not at all what I was looking for, actually.  Bold was a comment on Despot (saying he has some conviction), based on a stance on Leelou (saying she's probably town).  I was actually wanting you to evaluate the case, itself.  If possible, remove the fact it's about somebody that you already were reading as town - imagine that you didn't have your mind made up on Leelou's alignment and could actually be swayed to vote for her.  Would Despot's case convince you?  What parts have merit?  Which are MONKing dumb?

I reread Leelou's first 12-13 pages or so and I figured out what I was saying

 

Her posts are almost entirely offtopic, but it was her response to Clov about Thane/Des that made sense in my head

Nobody was really talking about Thane or Des and while Thane's intro start (and current posting) makes him probably one of the more obvious villagers so far I get her idea that he seemed a little unnatural. I think he was more relieved to not draw Mafia, but that's just ol Coryspambot talking

 

Des... well, I'm worried any game where me and Des have not been on the same page, but we've been not on the same page before as town and we've been on the same page before as town-mafia so I'm not going to say it's alignment-indicative

 

You're going to have to explain that one.  I actually thought the exact opposite, and currently, he's really only behind Dice on my "least likely to be town" list.  I saw nothing in his opening posts that made me feel good about him, and (without writing a WIFOM defense for somebody I don't know) Post #17 was just bad IMO.

 

went to respond to tina this morning but got hit with CF. On a short lunch now so will just respond with what i remember without the quote.

 

my concern with leelou is her telling us to watch mish for a post restriction. She seemed to know something others didn't. Who else knows things others dont?? Mafia thats who. I hadn't noticed mish doing anything to hint at one so that pinged me.

 

Re BFG?? asking why leelou and not AJ or Verb?  Cause she is the one who stood out to me and i dont even remember them doing it.

 

back to Tina. Role fishing?  only if you call using dynamite fishing. I was pretty blatant about it. There was a bit of talk about you liking marvin or having a post restriction. I have no idea who the main charachters are as, as said earlier, I dont remember the book. Hence I asked flat out to get rid of wifom. Notice I gave you options regarding marvin. Some of them would allow you to not claim, eg i love marvin. I also didnt ask you to claim if you were someone else.

 

Is there something about this theme that makes people think there is likely to be more post restrictions then normal? cause its been bought up a bit and imo prs arnt all that common on DM.

 

Bold - No, she seemed to be more observant about things that others weren't.  She never said Mish had a post requirement.  She said she was a candidate for one.  Let's look at early posts by Mish.

 

 

 

Does everyone have their towels ready?

 

And I might just need a babelfish to understand Cory :tongue:

 

No, babelfish!

 

 

so... is the movie actually worth seeing? i'd like some input....

 

The Guide says yes.

 

 

 

Lets lynch all girls and leave me with all the guys ^_^ 

 

 

 

Nyn

 

I looked up how to lynch all the girls in the Guide, and it said "don't".

 

 

 

 

I'm not an expert on Hitchhiker's Guide at all, but even I can tell you that all of these had references to the theme.  It's plausible enough that Mish was just excited about the theme to geek out a bit.  But based off of these posts, I think it's also a reasonable assumption that she MIGHT having something in her role about referencing the book - especially when you combine her behavior with the fact other players were posting...peculiarly...to start the game.  If one person has a requirement, there's no reason to conclude others can't, and the likeliness that three or four different players all came out of the gates with multiple theme-related posts out of their own free will?  Unlikely, unless they coordinated it.

 

Which would be pretty reasonable grounds for concern IMO.

 

Seen enough from Cory to make me more comfortable with him being town, but I'm not a big fan of his opinion of me this game. He says we're not on the same page so that doesn't look good- and yet the stuff that we're not on the same page on... well he's the one that's wrong, not me. For instance we're not on the same page regarding Leelou. Well, his reasoning for thinking Leelou town (that she was interested in figuring things out) was already poked at and prodded by players other than me, and shown to pretty much not be true.

 

Cory, I'm town. I will also often have an unpopular opinion- but also I have a bit more experience with some of these players still so if we're not on the same page, you should maybe consider what that means for YOUR reads instead of thinking that I could be scum. If you ARE town as well Cory, stop trying to waffle or hedge on your read on me and friggin see me for the awesome townie I am. Or else don't, and try and come @ me. Leaving the door open to fos me later will only keep me from trusting you more this game, which means if you are town then we won't be able to accomplish as much together.

 

 

This post bugs me.

 

First of all don't turn this into a black or white thing. Just because you and Cory don't see eye to eye doesn't mean that one of you is scum and the other is town. It could be that you're both townies that think differently. This isn't a f**king competition to see who's right and who's wrong. Drop the 'tude. We're trying to get scum, not to shine up your ego or Cory's.

 

"I'm right and you're wrong" statements won't get you anywhere. It just makes you look like a child. And possibly drag us into town lynching town and doing the work for scum as they sit to the side laughing their asses off.

 

Bottom line is, you could be wrong (god knows you have been before). Or you could be absolutely right. Case people and let those cases stand for themselves. If you are on to something then it will show through that. And if you're making sense, people will follow. And I'm sure Cory will be the first one to admit he was wrong if it turns out that you were right. So cut the crap.

 

With much love,

 

 

Nyn

 

 <3 10/10 would want you to post this again.

 

Slot01 - Cory - slightly leery for his reasons of clearing people, but since he's expanded on his reads a bit getting a town lean

Slot02 - BFG - Getting a null townie lean right now on BFG, I'd like her to comment on a few more players to see her reads. 

Slot03 - Clov - actively tried to get the game in gear, questioning reads, calling out what he sees, answering questions directed to him. town lean

Slot04 - Despo - too worried about what Cory thinks of him. Dragged in a personal conversation for his case against me, only looking at my posts in a scum light, feels like he's not fully scum hunting. Relying too much on meta null to slight scum lean

Slot05 - Tina - All of her posts have read as town to me. She's asking questions and getting involved. town lean

Slot06 - Thane - Not enough game play yet. Solid null 

Slot07 - RTE - I have a tendency to read him as scum, I'm going to need more info and voting records to get a better read on him. null 

Slot08 - Andrej - AJ started off slow and more going with the flow, now he is starting to look better. Right now slight town lean. null to town

Slot09 - Lazy - actively posting, not taking a stance in any situation. Has a reads list, but doesn't want to post it because: Day 1. Awesome scum hunting can be done on day 1, so if you have something you'd be better off sharing it. null 

Slot10 - Nynaeve - actively taking part in all issues that come up, her posts are coming off with a town feel to them. If she's scum it will start to show in a couple days, but I doubt it at this point. town lean

Slot11 - Pralaya - has made no game content posts at all. Null to scum lean

Slot12 - Hallia - After going through Hallia's posts, I'm getting a town lean from her right now. She is actually jumping into the game and giving some leans. I know she sometimes was a bit confusing with her last couple of posts, but I get what she was saying. 

Slot13 - Dice - Horrible bandwagon post with bad reasoning for his voting. His further posting hasn't helped him. scum lean

Slot14 - Mish - over reactive, currently voting her. Had some weird reasoning about me trying to accuse her while she was asleep. I'm still not really sure how she is coming to the conclusion what I did about mentioning she might have a PR equals me FoSing her null to scum. Very well could be town since she has a tendency to get huffy, but I'd actually like to hear from her before I move her. 

Slot15 - Verbal - town

Slot16 - Leelou - town

 

Most of these reads look good, but can you explain your conclusions on the bolded stuff Leelou?

 

  • Despot - I could see null, but I feel he's been pretty consistent with what I expect from him.  He doesn't like to be told he's wrong, and IMO, he takes it personal when people "get @ him".  Do you expect him to act differently, or are you just going on the content?
  • Hallia - I don't see how she's gotten into the game at all.  The only exchange I remember with her is where she posted something about disagreeing, and some people (including me) were confused what she was replying to...and she didn't do a particularly great job of explaining.
  • Verbal.  You said that you'd be able to have a strong read on him, so that checks out.  Where did it come from?
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The light at the end of the tunnel is near. I turned in my 10-page research paper today and knocked out my English final, now just for my Sociology final coming up in about an hour and a half. Once that's done, school is out for the summer :wink:

 

I've been sort of following along but mostly in a skim mode, school is taking precedent atm for me since you know... I'm kind of getting paid to get good grades and all that.

 

 

Just some quick thoughts from what I remember going through - Lazy's early town lean was beginning to slip with the more jokes he posted, but his response to others pressuring him about content comes across as stubborn town to me. He is basically telling others to deal with it, which I like - although some concrete stances would be appreciated.

 

I can actually see Verb being mafia this game. I could just be tinfoiling too early, but I don't think I've ever seen him being this... reasonable? Amenable? Something like that. Idk, the number of smileys I see in his posts kind of gives me the creeps because I don't remember seeing behaviour like this from him. He seems a bit too understanding, if that makes sense. I also don't really like how he seems to be handling BFG on the last page. He questions her about something and kind of gives her a soft warning about borderline semantics argument (which usually scum focus on) but instead says he'll wait to make a firmer decision on her later in the game. I know this is line with what he said earlier about being able to read her WoTs as a town/scum tell, but it looks kind of like an easy reason to avoid giving a read on her until later. I also find it interesting looking back how he was the one who specifically responded to me about BFG in regards to me having a hard time reading her lately.

 

If one flips scum I wouldn't be that surprised if the other does too, in other words.

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