[Advanced/Experimental] No Roles Disney Game - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

said Freud

[WWWwombat]

Freud woulda killed Claudius D1.

[Darthe]

As in Sigmund.  Sigmund Freud?  The famous psychologist known for revolutionizing the field and introducing it as a semi-legitimate soft science?

[Darthe]

Freud woulda killed Claudius D1.

Is that your character?  

[WWWwombat]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freud+on+hamlet

[Darthe]

[WWWwombat]

Jungian collective GOAT mindmeld on D3 if possible, k?

[Hallia]

 

@ Len - We do have other gameplay outside of claim talk, we've got Vos's case on Darthe, Wombat going after Vos. I think it's worth it to discuss AJ's move in suggesting the claim, and Mish's "trap" on him. But discussing to death whether or not we've all got secondary characters seems pretty futile to me.

 

You say you disagree about how beneficial it could be to the town - why? I apologize if you already brought this up, I don't recall. But if you could succinctly explain the reasons you think figuring out characters is beneficial, I would appreciate it.

Bold: Again I agree. Wombat, I beleive, and Leno even agreed at some point that talking about claiming characters wasn't that helpful, yet Leno keeps bringing it up. 

 

 

I love your catch up!  One thing I disagree with though is this.  More people than Len keep returning to this discussion.  Why single just him out?

[Alanna]

Wow, respect, Kaylee. I think if I missed a weekend and came back to 30+ pages, I'd just sit down and cry :P

 

FYI, when I mentioned you as possibly on a team with Lenlo before, it wasn't because I don't think you're a good player or because I was wondering where you were - I just thought if Lenlo was scum, he might've had teammates advising him to drop the claim talk, and a possible explanation for that was that all his teammates were comprised of people who weren't around. But I knew you said you'd be gone for the weekend.

 

I'm liking Kaylee's catch-up, though possible that's just because she's agreeing with me a whole lot :D

[Alanna]

@Hallia - I can't speak for Kaylee, obviously, but for me it's more than just Lenlo bringing up character talk - it's that he seems to be flip-flopping on the issue. On top of that, his responses today about why he thought character speculation was good for town really didn't make much sense to me.

[Lenlo]

 

 

My main thing on Len is that his views are changing as his thoughts develop.  You can see it as you read through the game.  That's a really good towntell.

Except his push for character claiming. He says they don't mean much, then goes back and forth on it. That stands out to me.

 

Can you show me an example of me going back and forth on it? Because I feel ive been, for the most part, pretty consistent with it. I only agreed to stop talking about it with Wombat cause he was gonna keep yelling at me about it.

 

 

 

@ Len - We do have other gameplay outside of claim talk, we've got Vos's case on Darthe, Wombat going after Vos. I think it's worth it to discuss AJ's move in suggesting the claim, and Mish's "trap" on him. But discussing to death whether or not we've all got secondary characters seems pretty futile to me.

 

You say you disagree about how beneficial it could be to the town - why? I apologize if you already brought this up, I don't recall. But if you could succinctly explain the reasons you think figuring out characters is beneficial, I would appreciate it.

Bold: Again I agree. Wombat, I beleive, and Leno even agreed at some point that talking about claiming characters wasn't that helpful, yet Leno keeps bringing it up. 

 

 

I love your catch up!  One thing I disagree with though is this.  More people than Len keep returning to this discussion.  Why single just him out?

 

Thank you.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

My main thing on Len is that his views are changing as his thoughts develop.  You can see it as you read through the game.  That's a really good towntell.

Except his push for character claiming. He says they don't mean much, then goes back and forth on it. That stands out to me.

 

Can you show me an example of me going back and forth on it? Because I feel ive been, for the most part, pretty consistent with it. I only agreed to stop talking about it with Wombat cause he was gonna keep yelling at me about it.

 

Wait, what?

[WWWwombat]

Alright I think I misunderstood what you were going for there. Yes main characters would have a greater chance of being counter claimed, as there are fewer of them. ATM though I see no reason to believe that main characters are more or less likely to be in this game than secondary.

 

So myself im going to treat a character as a character regardless of if its a main or a secondary or a tertiary claim. Until we see a theme alginments I will treat character claims as null. So basically I want to focus on gameplay instead of characters. Agree?

 

 

Agreed.  That being said, the illogical attitudes some people are taking towards character claims are fair game.

 

 

 

Agreed.  That being said, the illogical attitudes some people are taking towards character claims are fair game.

Agreed. Thats gameplay.

 

 

 

Thus was our treaty written; thus was agreement made.

Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades.

What was asked was not given. The price must be paid.

[WWWwombat]

[unvote]

[v]Amega[/v]

[Darthe]

Not game for Jungian.  Too locked into traditional roles.  

 

Switching from what to Amega?

[Darthe]

Unoffical Vote count:

Lenlo (2) - Krak, Kaylee

AJ (1) Mish

Mish (1) - Lenlo

Darthe (1) - Vos

Vos (1) - Darthe

Krak (1) Leelou

Amega (1): Womby

 

Not voting - TGlems, Alanna, Hallia, Pralaya, Amega, Lia, AJ, Verb

No deadline yet

[Darthe]

The answer was Len.  

 

No VC last page btw, that's free points lost ).)

[WWWwombat]

Too lazy.  I'll get my points with content.

[Kaylee]

Len. I'll grab examples when I can get to a computer, either later tonight or tomorrow.

[Andrej]

 

 

@ Len - We do have other gameplay outside of claim talk, we've got Vos's case on Darthe, Wombat going after Vos. I think it's worth it to discuss AJ's move in suggesting the claim, and Mish's "trap" on him. But discussing to death whether or not we've all got secondary characters seems pretty futile to me.

 

You say you disagree about how beneficial it could be to the town - why? I apologize if you already brought this up, I don't recall. But if you could succinctly explain the reasons you think figuring out characters is beneficial, I would appreciate it.

 

We do have other yes but ive already addressed those earlier.

 

I want to figure out the characters so we can lock people into things/information. Scum need wiggle room to do well so by locking people in I want to restrict that wiggle room as much as possible. If we lock people into claims now then on D4 or D5 someone cant go "Im snow white, dont lynch me, im town!" Cause we will have dealt with that already. Honestly I dont see how it helps mafia much at all besides increasing the alraedy massive list of characters for them to choose from. I mean srs there are so many.

 

This seems constructed. I think everyone here has the capacity of finding a unlikely character and remembering it. 

 

And we have already been over why it benefits scum. 

 

Do we have a "beating a dead horse with a stick"-smiley?

 

Earlier you said that it benefits neither alignment and was therefore pointless, previous to that you also said it was beneficial to scum point wise for good fake claims. Now you are agreeing again that it benefits mafia. Which is it?

 

I think Len has a valid point here. Locking people into their claims is a good thing and it adds to the collective pool of information. Yes there are hundreds of characters to be claimed and likely not one singular claim will lead directly to someone getting lynched but as the game unfolds we can look back on said claims and find connections/inconsistencies to give us a direction to move in.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

I think I just watched Kaylee farm 20+ points with the efficiency of a robotic shucker.

Lol just trying to play catch up on 35 pages. Figured Mod doesn't like multi-quotes so I'll break them each up.

 

 

I love my little point whores. :)

[WWWwombat]

 

 

I think I just watched Kaylee farm 20+ points with the efficiency of a robotic shucker.

Lol just trying to play catch up on 35 pages. Figured Mod doesn't like multi-quotes so I'll break them each up.

 

 

I love my little point whores. :)

 

 

I'm a point "escort."

[Andrej]

 

Bold is mine:

 

 

So why didn't you make that vote earlier instead of saying you could go either way and asking about deadline?

 

It was early D1, I was still largely undecided and wanted to gauge gameplay when more people 'joined the fray' later on. So if anything, I'm guilty of being overtly cautious about my D1 vote. So, if you're still locked in on me as scum, that's a better story than my scummyness for asking about deadline. 

 

This is essentially what I was looking for, when I mentioned there could be more innocent reasons for linking deadline and voting. He had a couple ideas of where to place his vote, but it was still early in the game, and he wanted to find out if we had a set time yet for when he needed to place a vote by.

 

I'll grant you, he could have placed a vote on either your or Darthe anyway, to see what kind of a reaction he would get, to try to push one of you. But I don't think the fact that he chose a slightly less proactive stance makes him scummy.

 

I do think it makes him scummy.  What is the town incentive for expressing opinions on possible alignments while not voting on D1?

 

I don't really agree here. I can see how you would think him holding his vote is negative behavior but I wouldn't call it alignment indicative by any definite means.

 

I'm taking the summation of your argument is that he didn't vote those he voiced concern over therefore he is scummy. Is that about it?

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

I think I just watched Kaylee farm 20+ points with the efficiency of a robotic shucker.

Lol just trying to play catch up on 35 pages. Figured Mod doesn't like multi-quotes so I'll break them each up.

 

 

I love my little point whores. :)

 

 

I'm a point "escort."

 

How much per hour?

[Andrej]

 

I think it's too early to tell.

 

It is funny that Mish seems to think that me claiming a minor character makes me scum when there are several others who have as well. Like, somebody talk to this girl please.

 

Conf-bias in the house.

 

Talk to her yourself, slimeball.