[Basic] Clash of the ancients - Mafia Wins!

[Lenlo]

Guess well find out when the game is over.

[Songstress]

If the deadline hadn't passed before I could submit my action N2, I would have shot Nolder and we wouldn't have had to waste a day on this.  I'm still frustrated about that.

 

Which is what I originally was planning on doing Night 1, by the way, because Wombat taught me everything I know.

 

"When in doubt, shoot Nolder."

 

[Darthe]

Well, some may try to trick you into not shooting tonight but you totally can and probably should.

 

9 alive, you shoot it goes like this

7 alive, lynch

6 alive mafia win if you missed and we mislynched.  However, you increased our chances of finding mafia during the day

 

9 alive, you don't shoot it goes like this

8 alive, lynch

7 alive, mafia NK to victory and you're forced to shoot to try and catch one of them.  Easier day phase for them.

 

Thus, time to shoot?

 

I would go for someone whose been suspect or for an outlier tonight.

 

In order I recommend: Des/AJ/Lenlo

 

Pretty confident that is the entire scumteam.

[Andrej]

That really should've happened D2.

[Darthe]

I'll acknowledge that.  

[amegakure]

great scene glad you where awake :) i like how they prepaid for the inevitable war   hehehe

 

 

let's get N/A in guys :) 

[Kaylee]

Thanks, was trying to keep the story going

[Darthe]

I know it's bad form but I am really going to push Tress to go for Des or AJ tonight.  Len is my third in line.  

 

Seriously, kill one of them.

[Songstress]

I know it's bad form but I am really going to push Tress to go for Des or AJ tonight. Len is my third in line.

 

Seriously, kill one of them.

I do what I want! </sassy>

[Andrej]

 

Bad call Darthe.

 

Holstering is actually the best option IMO.

 

5:3, NK plus a misvig and it's game over.

[Lenlo]

AJ, don't you know? Million in one, MyLo suicidal Vig shots never miss. It's a law of theatrics.

[Andrej]

Actually, my math sucks.

 

Disregard.

[Andrej]

AJ, don't you know? Million in one, MyLo suicidal Vig shots never miss. It's a law of theatrics.

 

Lol if it were you and RTE fighting over who gets to pull the trigger again, I might believe.

[Darthe]

Yeah, 6:3 vig shot needs to happen now or else if she misses she ends up shooting for the fate of the game anyways.  Same difference but here we get info quicker and it leaves the game in towns hands.

[Darthe]

1. Despo
2. Dawn
3. AJ
4. TG
5. Big Daddy Krak
6. Tress
7. Ice (Mentored by Darthe)
8. Lenlo
9. Dice

 

Went back to make sure I counted correctly.  With 9 alive (assuming 3 mafia) we go to 7 tonight w/ vig and NK, 6 after a lynch is game.  Otherwise we go 8 w/NK, 7 with lynch and then NK/vig puts us at 2/3 game over or at 3/2 lylo again.  If she doesn't shoot she gets NK'd tonight and then she can't YOLO win it for us so she has to shoot.

Anyone want to update with claims/clears etc?

[Andrej]

1. Despo

2. Dawn

3. AJ

4. TG

5. Big Daddy Krak

6. Tress

7. Ice (Mentored by Darthe)

8. Lenlo

9. Dice

 

Went back to make sure I counted correctly.  With 9 alive (assuming 3 mafia) we go to 7 tonight w/ vig and NK, 6 after a lynch is game.  Otherwise we go 8 w/NK, 7 with lynch and then NK/vig puts us at 2/3 game over or at 3/2 lylo again.  If she doesn't shoot she gets NK'd tonight and then she can't YOLO win it for us so she has to shoot.

Anyone want to update with claims/clears etc?

 

Why would you assume that?

[Darthe]

Because it is the most logical move by a mile and a half for mafia. Basic logic AJ. If they NK her she cant yolo save town tomorrow assuming she doesnt shoot tonight and even if she does and hits mafia she will only be a liability now that they made it to mylo

[Andrej]

I think the logical thing to have done was kill her N2 after she claimed, but hey.

[Krakalakachkn]

12 hour work day kept me down.  Looks like I didn't miss much anyway.

 

 

I'll regroup come day.

[Darthe]

I think the logical thing to have done was kill her N2 after she claimed, but hey.

Nah, she could kill a townie.  A greedy mafia wants the extra kills a vig presents and this group has thought they were pretty clear all game.  You can tell that from the play Nol made, from the lack of mafia dead and from reasoning.  I'm confident about this.

[Songstress]

They also could have a roleblocker and not be worried about my kill. In which case Dice is probably not mafia, because I would likely have been blocked the first night if they were worried about it.

 

I expect Darthe or I will be the logical choices to be killed regardless, because anyone else just narrows the pool of possible lynches.

[Songstress]

In any case, I don't think it's likely Dice is mafia unless both Despo and TG are.

[Darthe]

I think you got an all town QT.  I am almost 100% on Des, it just fits perfectly with his play here with Nol.  AJ I am not positive and Len I am less so but AJ is a pretty good scum lean at this point cause I don't think I have an all town QT.

[hazelkrs1]

##Vote Nolder

 

For suggesting a no lynch...why in the world would he want a no lynch?

 

 

 

I think we need to no lynch.

It's our only hope.

 

##Vote No Lynch

Wait a second. ....who exactly does "our" refer to? If it refers to the town, that makes no sense, since it would mean "voting no lynch will actually get the town somewhere in the game!"

Voting no lynch gets the town NOWHERE.

 

But if "our" refers to scum, it would be the mafia's only hope of not having one of them lynched. That doesn't make much sense either because no scum have been lynched yet...

 

So either Nolder is scum, or town that is very anti-town. 

 

 

Yeah so this just REEKS of a bus move here. Nol was straight swinging his scum wang in our faces for days, outing himself as scum, and Dawn picks this ridiculous reason to vote him?

 

Don't buy it for a second.

 

I know it's bad form but I am really going to push Tress to go for Des or AJ tonight.  Len is my third in line.  

 

Seriously, kill one of them.

 

Wow you really do expose yourself so much as scum lately. You're basically saying that you want to beg the vig to help your team win as fast as possible. Nice.

 

Actually, my math sucks.

 

Disregard.

 

Lol yeah I was about to correct you.

 

So, Nol gone finally. Took yall long enough.

 

Him throwing his life away is sort of obvious, he wanted to give teammates a good bussing opportunity since his role was useless and he was looking dirtier by the day. Dawn is the one who sticks out most for her "reasoning" regarding Nol's lynch. She's def my pick for one of his scummates.

 

Another that was heavily connected to Nolder was Dice, but some of the stuff that led me to that conclusion is a bit old now, will have to fetch it later. Plan on doing a reread anyways now that we have SOMETHING to go on.

 

Also Darthe looks TERRIBLE for his actions yesterday. Pushed the Lewis lynch HARD over Nolder, was even trying to clear Nol as town. Fought the Nol lynch harder than anyone, only to drop a lame busvote when it became apparent no other lynch was happening.

 

So way I see it atm is Dice/Dawn/Darthe scum team.

[Darthe]

I did indeed push Lewis over Nol and I did think Nol was town.  Would you argue that this makes me scum Des?  Your rhetoric is quite encompassing for the arguments you'll need to make here.