[Basic] The Matrix - Game Over

[nervositee]

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:57 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

You're essentially the mafia version of a monkey flinging feces against a wall. I'm moving on from this discussion cause it's getting nowhere and theres zero chance your voting me results in my lynch.

 

 

I take it back, you are a valuable town-player, lead the way!

 

I agree our discussion is stalling. It's there for everyone to see and judge by themselves. Moving on. 

[Darthe]

I dont see enough from Vos yet to warrant the reaction and attention he is getting which leads me to believe this is a mountains/molehills scenario or scum motivated. Pressure on Tina looks good but my meta on her says that she is more cautious than this when scum. All jn all I still like votes on GE and Err and im okay with Tina votes as well.

[Andrej]

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:57 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

AJ

I would appreciate your opinion on Tina's "Latching on" to me. I have no memory of every playing with her or read a game she was in. She's sheeping and her subsequent posts have not been good.

 

I think it's kind of typical of her playstyle. She tends to start off sort of slowly but then when she finds something to sink her teeth into she goes at it rather aggressively.

[hazelkrs1]

Well let's get this started then

 

Unvote, Vote Tina

[Niniel]

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:57 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:45 PM, nervositee said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:22 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

I should lay off someone who has a vote on me? You must be joking. You started the game with what I can only assume was a joke about lawyers being scum, then proceeded to try and harp on everything I say. I will spell it out for you. I don't think you are playing a very focused game, You, like Tina are voting based upon the fact you generally dislike the way I talk. I'm fine with that. Notice that I haven't fos'd you or voted you, I have consistently given you the benefit of the doubt as a new player developing his game. You jump in and vote based on the weakest reasoning. Your explanation essentially states the no one used inactivity to justify votes (FALSE, Tglems did and then confirmed he had), calling me passive aggressive and then voting. I'll tell you what happened, you couldn't maintain emotional distance from the game, got upset when I told you to focus your game and then proceeded to look for reasons to vote me. If you take things personally in this game, you will have a much harder go of things than if you realize people are doing things to elicit responses. 

 

Bolded: Uhm. Yeah. You assume correctly. You shouldn't have to assume, it was very clear. 

Italics: That is your words, not mine. If you don't get it, I'll spell it out for you, here:

 

I vote Golden because he is building air-castles out of nothing, throwing shit at me on totally unsubstantial bs that he can't back up, when confronted about it he obfuscate it by that "he has a plan". For what I can read Golden is playing very anti-town. I'm all for aggressive play styles, but this isn't aggressive play, this is nothing. 

 

Underlined: Ehm, come again? You are gonna tell me what happened? Why, thank you! You're taking a wild guess, and you are wrong, but thanks for that insight. 

 

 

1- Your joke was not clear. Many people make jokes like this early on to subtly nudge a theme they want to attach to a person. The fact that you aren't aware of this is like holding up a giant "noob" sign.

2- You have engaged in very little actual gameplay. You aren't asking logical questions or bringing up points. You're essentially the mafia version of a monkey flinging feces against a wall. I'm moving on from this discussion cause it's getting nowhere and theres zero chance your voting me results in my lynch.

 

 

 

AJ

I would appreciate your opinion on Tina's "Latching on" to me. I have no memory of every playing with her or read a game she was in. She's sheeping and her subsequent posts have not been good.  

 

 

Vos has just started to play mafia, isn´t that right? Being a noob is not the same as being scummy. And now he is like a monkey flinging.... Why are you saying all these things. I dislike them because:

 

1. It´s rude.

2. It´s still just empty frases. They doesn´t say anything about why you are going after Vos.

 

My conclusion must be that you use this "agressivness" to try to look like you´re scumhunting. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 8:19 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:57 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

AJ

I would appreciate your opinion on Tina's "Latching on" to me. I have no memory of every playing with her or read a game she was in. She's sheeping and her subsequent posts have not been good.

 

I think it's kind of typical of her playstyle. She tends to start off sort of slowly but then when she finds something to sink her teeth into she goes at it rather aggressively.

 

 

It´s always fun to hear others telling me about my play style because I´m not aware that I have one. My activity is often based on rl and how much I get into the game from the beginning. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 8:41 PM, Despothera said:

Well let's get this started then

 

Unvote, Vote Tina

 

Another OMGUS vote?

[hazelkrs1]

Pfft. The mere fact that you tried portraying that as an OMGUS vote at all shows how scummy you really are Tina.

[Niniel]

I don´t think your reason for voting me is very good and I don´t understand how you don´t question Golden at all. 

[hazelkrs1]

GE is acting generally the same as he always does as town lately. I liked the way he pointed out the going after inactives too early thing was stupid, and a couple of other points he's made have made sense too. I just think you were pursuing what seemed like an easy lynch at the time, painting him as a bully to make it easier for others to bandwagon onto him.

 

Then after getting called out on your weak vote, you pretty much justified it by saying "Here's where I agree with Darthe" and that's it, you don't give any of your own reasoning. Bandwagoning isn't something you do often Tina, so I don't buy that you would vote GE without making more of an actual case against him

[Andrej]

Alright, so double-tabbing here so I can link you to the posts I am talking about as I read them. Technology

 

I'll start with GE and then do Theo afterwards.

 

Here is where GE went after TG for quoting the post count. He says that he has never seen this strategy used by town players. This feels like an assumption on his part because TG didn't provide commentary on the quote at all, he just posted it. It's strange that he got in such an uproar about it IMO, more so because he was listed in the quote. Also, the pre-emptive 'incoming OMGUS post' looks like he is throwing suspicion towards TG without seeing what he had to say in response first. I can agree with his statement regarding Basel's vote on Theo. I questioned him a bit on it myself. This post feels a little overdone. I didn't find anything particularly reactive in TG's response. I think Nerv makes a few good points here. What he says about scum active-lurking D1 is valid if not also 100% true. I also agree on his comment on GE's reaction compared to TG's. GE has a point by saying that scum could use a post-counter to incriminate low-posting town players, but the question to ask here is what previously would give him a scum vibe on TG? Again, TG never pointed a finger at those with low posts. GE's 3rd point is sort of belittling and a soft meta-defense of himself. Here GE says his vote on TG is a policy-vote for FOS'ing inactives, which didn't happen. This looks like a misrep and again a guilty reaction since his name was on the list. In this post he turns around and votes Tina after she joins his wagon. I can agree that Tina didn't necessarily clarify what she agreed with about Darthe's stance on GE, but I don't see anything in her post where she admits her vote was weak. Here he is speaking to Vos about his vote. What was weak about his reasoning? Vos voted you for the reaction you gave to TG's post. Again, I don't see anywhere that TG is using the inactivity angle to FOS or vote anyone. He has said he doesn't like lurkers, which I agree with, but he hasn't cased someone or pushed for any lynches because of it. He is voting Theo for his own reasons which doesn't include her post count. I don't really understand what he is getting at here talking about Vos being a good D1 fallback lynch. Who would you put into this category? I haven't seen many people mentioning they would be okay to lynch Vos, iirc several have stated they don't see the big deal about him.

 

Okay, so onto Theo.

 

So her OP's here and here come across pretty relaxed. The tongue-in-cheek OMGUS joke vote on Despo is sort of amusing. Here she adds a little commentary on the miller claim. Reads as basically a summation of the inherent WIFOM for that role's utility. Not really sure what the point of the 'Save Darthe Club' comment is though. This is where I mentioned earlier about her commentary in regards to her RVS on Despo. I don't really get why she felt the need to explain it. If it was meant as a joke vote than it shouldn't really need to be explained. Next is the commentary on Vos that she has been catching heat for. I didn't see anything necessarily scummy about it and still don't. To me it looks like she is saying that he appears confused and therefore not helpful, but more likely newbtown than scum. I think a lot of the misunderstanding stems from her sentence structure. I admit that some things she says come across a little awkwardly, but I think that can be chalked up to language barriers. Correct me if I'm wrong Theo, but English isn't your first language? Her response to TG is pretty good IMO. She clarifies her statement on Vos and points out Basel's vote, which I found sort of fishy as well. Lastly, her vote on TG. I'm not really following her on this one though. Could you clarify a bit more Theo?

 

Okay, so out of these two I'd lean for lynching GE. True, his playstyle is typically sort of loud and borderline obnoxious. Aggressiveness isn't a scumtell IMO, but I don't find him aggressively hunting scum if that makes sense. His responses come across more as abrasive and reactionary where he is lashing out and belittling others.

 

vote Golden

[Babar Hasan Khan]

ok... i am traveling today... so dont know if i will be able to check in by the time of deadline... but here is what i have to say...

 

Golden if a towny could be a great asset..... i would not prefer voting him out in day 1 without any solid reason... 

 

i dont know why me mentioning a possibility of GF in the game is suspicious... this is the most probabilistic combination i could come up with.... 

 

Vos and Tglems seems more scummier then the other people on the chopping block at this time.... i would put by vote on Tglems

 

Vote Tglems

[WolfbrotherKronos]

I just got home from my conference and should be paying more attention to these games now.

 

I was gonna reread and post when I got home, but hit a patch of ice on the way home and ended up in a ditch.  I'm ok, but I'm still quite shaken so want to calm down a bit more before I post.

[Basel Gill]

Glad you're all right, Kronos.

[nervositee]

Yeah, have a cup of tea and take it easy. It's D1. A re-read is not imperative to anything right now ;)

[Tyler Glembo]

Okay, let's catch up a bit....

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:07 PM, nervositee said:

Spell it out for me, why am I "bad"? You are claiming bs arguments like that I don't know how to vote, just laying out highly unsubstantial claims. You are pestering, not scumhunting. So make a case or lay off, thank you.  I know you like to claim you are an aggresive player - might be, but right now you are playing very anti-town. 

 

Vos, the one thing that I found most scummy from you is how you came out and defended me without prompting.  Always makes me nervous when people defend me, unless of course it is obvious that the attacking players are just making stuff up.  More on that in a moment.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:17 PM, Xthrax said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 10:36 AM, Despothera said:

Unvote, Vote Theo

 

Why all of a sudden a jump to Theo? If it's for spreading pressure around, there could have been a lot of people you picked. 

 

 

Tglems- Started with the vote count. It's still Day 1 man, so cut everyone some slack. I agree with you that mafia could be hiding out on Day 1, but you could really be voting someone who really maybe couldn't be that active on D1. Suspicious, for bringing up and calling people out just based on the number of their posts. It could be your play style lynching the lurkers, but just be quiet you don't have much to say is also a play style. I dunno man, but does not really go right with me

 

Vote TGlems

 

Despo is obviously using his vote for pressure.  Town vibe from him. 

 

As for me, first, it is called a post count.  Not a vote count.  Second, I posted the low posters to try and get them moving.  Did I "call people out"?  No.  Did I make cases on how we needed to lynch them?  No.  Did I "vot[e] someone who really maybe couldn't be that active on D1" as you state?  No. 

 

You are making things up out of thin air, claiming I'm voting people for low post counts, etc, when I was not.  Scumtastic. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:22 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

I should lay off someone who has a vote on me? You must be joking. You started the game with what I can only assume was a joke about lawyers being scum, then proceeded to try and harp on everything I say. I will spell it out for you. I don't think you are playing a very focused game, You, like Tina are voting based upon the fact you generally dislike the way I talk. I'm fine with that. Notice that I haven't fos'd you or voted you, I have consistently given you the benefit of the doubt as a new player developing his game. You jump in and vote based on the weakest reasoning. Your explanation essentially states the no one used inactivity to justify votes (FALSE, Tglems did and then confirmed he had), calling me passive aggressive and then voting. I'll tell you what happened, you couldn't maintain emotional distance from the game, got upset when I told you to focus your game and then proceeded to look for reasons to vote me. If you take things personally in this game, you will have a much harder go of things than if you realize people are doing things to elicit responses. 

 

In bold, point out to me voted based on inactivity and then "confirmed" I had?  Otherwise, you and X are just making things up.  So, Golden, are you lying or making things up?

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:14 PM, Despothera said:

As for Vos, he's a player I'm waffling on somewhat, but inthe particular situation with TG and GE, iI didn't think GE came out looking worse at all. TG and Vos kept trying to justify going for in actives, I never found their reasoning held up.

Right now the players I'm wary of are Theo, Tina, Err, and TG.

 

Despo, I didn't go after inactives...at least not in the fake storyline GE and X are pushing. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:51 PM, Andrej said:

I don't think Tina looks scummy. She hasn't posted much but the way she is sort of latching onto GE reminds me of a few past games I've played with her. I do think perhaps GE's posting style might be influencing her a bit, but I can be sympathetic to that. GE is being very abrasive this game. He's lashing out at any of those who question/vote him. He is name-calling and not disproving any of the points really, just throwing out buzzwords. Vos had a good point for voting him originally. TG didn't vote or even make commentary when he posted the post-counter earlier, but GE was in it. GE immediately went on the attack for it. Not that Tina has joined the wagon he immediately turns around and votes her for it. Gives me the feel of a trapped animal or something.

 

In comparison to GE, I think Theo has held up reasonably well. How is her OMGUS voting TG any different than GE's OMGUS voting of Tina? Also, you say that it was obvious you were consolidating to generate voting activity. Why would that be obvious? You said nothing in the post besides the vote switch. You're assuming that other players are going to pick up on your thoughts without expressing them, so Theo saying you went for the easy vote is a legit statement. I sort of agree with her.

 

Can you quote the post you're talking about with Err? I don't remember seeing him agree with TG.

 

I liked X's post as well, good townie vibe from him so far. Not sure about the vote for TG though.

 

 

Relevant part in bold.  At least someone can read.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:01 PM, TinaHel said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 8:41 PM, Despothera said:

Well let's get this started then

 

Unvote, Vote Tina

 

Another OMGUS vote?

 

 

Clearly a pressure vote given the couple previous posts.  Looks like you're trying to create a false narrative. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:07 PM, Despothera said:

Pfft. The mere fact that you tried portraying that as an OMGUS vote at all shows how scummy you really are Tina.

 

This.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 11:16 PM, Err said:

ok... i am traveling today... so dont know if i will be able to check in by the time of deadline... but here is what i have to say...

 

Golden if a towny could be a great asset..... i would not prefer voting him out in day 1 without any solid reason... 

 

i dont know why me mentioning a possibility of GF in the game is suspicious... this is the most probabilistic combination i could come up with.... 

 

Vos and Tglems seems more scummier then the other people on the chopping block at this time.... i would put by vote on Tglems

 

Vote Tglems

 

Exactly what have I done to look scummy?  Is it the made up story from GE and X about how I was voting inactives? 

 

 

Man, I leave the game for a few hours and things run off to make believe land.  AJ's post sums it up pretty well.

 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:41 PM, Andrej said:

Here is where GE went after TG for quoting the post count. He says that he has never seen this strategy used by town players. This feels like an assumption on his part because TG didn't provide commentary on the quote at all, he just posted it. It's strange that he got in such an uproar about it IMO, more so because he was listed in the quote. Also, the pre-emptive 'incoming OMGUS post' looks like he is throwing suspicion towards TG without seeing what he had to say in response first. I can agree with his statement regarding Basel's vote on Theo. I questioned him a bit on it myself. This post feels a little overdone. I didn't find anything particularly reactive in TG's response. I think Nerv makes a few good points here. What he says about scum active-lurking D1 is valid if not also 100% true. I also agree on his comment on GE's reaction compared to TG's. GE has a point by saying that scum could use a post-counter to incriminate low-posting town players, but the question to ask here is what previously would give him a scum vibe on TG? Again, TG never pointed a finger at those with low posts. GE's 3rd point is sort of belittling and a soft meta-defense of himself. Here GE says his vote on TG is a policy-vote for FOS'ing inactives, which didn't happen. This looks like a misrep and again a guilty reaction since his name was on the list. In this post he turns around and votes Tina after she joins his wagon. I can agree that Tina didn't necessarily clarify what she agreed with about Darthe's stance on GE, but I don't see anything in her post where she admits her vote was weak. Here he is speaking to Vos about his vote. What was weak about his reasoning? Vos voted you for the reaction you gave to TG's post. Again, I don't see anywhere that TG is using the inactivity angle to FOS or vote anyone. He has said he doesn't like lurkers, which I agree with, but he hasn't cased someone or pushed for any lynches because of it. He is voting Theo for his own reasons which doesn't include her post count. I don't really understand what he is getting at here talking about Vos being a good D1 fallback lynch. Who would you put into this category? I haven't seen many people mentioning they would be okay to lynch Vos, iirc several have stated they don't see the big deal about him.

 

 

 

unvote Theo

vote X for saying I voted inactives and then confirmed that I did.  Phaw.

[Tyler Glembo]

EBWOP:

 

unvote X

vote Golden

 

Mixed up names, tho both deserve a vote.

[Tyler Glembo]

TLDR: Golden and X are saying that I voted people for being inactive.  I didn't. 

[Nolder]

Votecount

Theodora - Basel (1)

Nervositee - WolfbrotherKronos (1)

Tina - Goldeneyes, Despothera (2)

Tglems - Theodora, Xthrax, Err (3)

Goldeneyes - Darthe, Nervositee, Tina, Andrej, Tglems (5)

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140127T18&p0=137

[Xthrax]

  On 1/27/2014 at 1:30 AM, TGlems said:

TLDR: Golden and X are saying that I voted people for being inactive.  I didn't. 

 

Don't know 'bout Golden but I never confirmed or claimed that you voted people for being inactive. In fact take a look,

 

  On 1/27/2014 at 1:26 AM, TGlems said:

Okay, let's catch up a bit....

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:07 PM, nervositee said:

Spell it out for me, why am I "bad"? You are claiming bs arguments like that I don't know how to vote, just laying out highly unsubstantial claims. You are pestering, not scumhunting. So make a case or lay off, thank you.  I know you like to claim you are an aggresive player - might be, but right now you are playing very anti-town. 

 

Vos, the one thing that I found most scummy from you is how you came out and defended me without prompting.  Always makes me nervous when people defend me, unless of course it is obvious that the attacking players are just making stuff up.  More on that in a moment.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:17 PM, Xthrax said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 10:36 AM, Despothera said:

Unvote, Vote Theo

 

Why all of a sudden a jump to Theo? If it's for spreading pressure around, there could have been a lot of people you picked. 

 

 

Tglems- Started with the vote count. It's still Day 1 man, so cut everyone some slack. I agree with you that mafia could be hiding out on Day 1, but you could really be voting someone who really maybe couldn't be that active on D1. Suspicious, for bringing up and calling people out just based on the number of their posts. It could be your play style lynching the lurkers, but just be quiet you don't have much to say is also a play style. I dunno man, but does not really go right with me

 

Vote TGlems

 

Despo is obviously using his vote for pressure.  Town vibe from him. 

 

As for me, first, it is called a post count.  Not a vote count.  Second, I posted the low posters to try and get them moving.  Did I "call people out"?  No.  Did I make cases on how we needed to lynch them?  No.  Did I "vot[e] someone who really maybe couldn't be that active on D1" as you state?  No. 

 

You are making things up out of thin air, claiming I'm voting people for low post counts, etc, when I was not.  Scumtastic. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 6:22 PM, GoldeneyesND said:

I should lay off someone who has a vote on me? You must be joking. You started the game with what I can only assume was a joke about lawyers being scum, then proceeded to try and harp on everything I say. I will spell it out for you. I don't think you are playing a very focused game, You, like Tina are voting based upon the fact you generally dislike the way I talk. I'm fine with that. Notice that I haven't fos'd you or voted you, I have consistently given you the benefit of the doubt as a new player developing his game. You jump in and vote based on the weakest reasoning. Your explanation essentially states the no one used inactivity to justify votes (FALSE, Tglems did and then confirmed he had), calling me passive aggressive and then voting. I'll tell you what happened, you couldn't maintain emotional distance from the game, got upset when I told you to focus your game and then proceeded to look for reasons to vote me. If you take things personally in this game, you will have a much harder go of things than if you realize people are doing things to elicit responses. 

 

In bold, point out to me voted based on inactivity and then "confirmed" I had?  Otherwise, you and X are just making things up.  So, Golden, are you lying or making things up?

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:14 PM, Despothera said:

As for Vos, he's a player I'm waffling on somewhat, but inthe particular situation with TG and GE, iI didn't think GE came out looking worse at all. TG and Vos kept trying to justify going for in actives, I never found their reasoning held up.

 

Right now the players I'm wary of are Theo, Tina, Err, and TG.

 

Despo, I didn't go after inactives...at least not in the fake storyline GE and X are pushing. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 7:51 PM, Andrej said:

I don't think Tina looks scummy. She hasn't posted much but the way she is sort of latching onto GE reminds me of a few past games I've played with her. I do think perhaps GE's posting style might be influencing her a bit, but I can be sympathetic to that. GE is being very abrasive this game. He's lashing out at any of those who question/vote him. He is name-calling and not disproving any of the points really, just throwing out buzzwords. Vos had a good point for voting him originally. TG didn't vote or even make commentary when he posted the post-counter earlier, but GE was in it. GE immediately went on the attack for it. Not that Tina has joined the wagon he immediately turns around and votes her for it. Gives me the feel of a trapped animal or something.

 

In comparison to GE, I think Theo has held up reasonably well. How is her OMGUS voting TG any different than GE's OMGUS voting of Tina? Also, you say that it was obvious you were consolidating to generate voting activity. Why would that be obvious? You said nothing in the post besides the vote switch. You're assuming that other players are going to pick up on your thoughts without expressing them, so Theo saying you went for the easy vote is a legit statement. I sort of agree with her.

 

Can you quote the post you're talking about with Err? I don't remember seeing him agree with TG.

 

I liked X's post as well, good townie vibe from him so far. Not sure about the vote for TG though.

 

 

Relevant part in bold.  At least someone can read.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:01 PM, TinaHel said:

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 8:41 PM, Despothera said:

Well let's get this started then

 

Unvote, Vote Tina

 

Another OMGUS vote?

 

 

Clearly a pressure vote given the couple previous posts.  Looks like you're trying to create a false narrative. 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:07 PM, Despothera said:

Pfft. The mere fact that you tried portraying that as an OMGUS vote at all shows how scummy you really are Tina.

 

This.

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 11:16 PM, Err said:

ok... i am traveling today... so dont know if i will be able to check in by the time of deadline... but here is what i have to say...

 

Golden if a towny could be a great asset..... i would not prefer voting him out in day 1 without any solid reason... 

 

i dont know why me mentioning a possibility of GF in the game is suspicious... this is the most probabilistic combination i could come up with.... 

 

Vos and Tglems seems more scummier then the other people on the chopping block at this time.... i would put by vote on Tglems

 

Vote Tglems

 

Exactly what have I done to look scummy?  Is it the made up story from GE and X about how I was voting inactives? 

 

 

Man, I leave the game for a few hours and things run off to make believe land.  AJ's post sums it up pretty well.

 

 

  On 1/26/2014 at 9:41 PM, Andrej said:

Here is where GE went after TG for quoting the post count. He says that he has never seen this strategy used by town players. This feels like an assumption on his part because TG didn't provide commentary on the quote at all, he just posted it. It's strange that he got in such an uproar about it IMO, more so because he was listed in the quote. Also, the pre-emptive 'incoming OMGUS post' looks like he is throwing suspicion towards TG without seeing what he had to say in response first. I can agree with his statement regarding Basel's vote on Theo. I questioned him a bit on it myself. This post feels a little overdone. I didn't find anything particularly reactive in TG's response. I think Nerv makes a few good points here. What he says about scum active-lurking D1 is valid if not also 100% true. I also agree on his comment on GE's reaction compared to TG's. GE has a point by saying that scum could use a post-counter to incriminate low-posting town players, but the question to ask here is what previously would give him a scum vibe on TG? Again, TG never pointed a finger at those with low posts. GE's 3rd point is sort of belittling and a soft meta-defense of himself. Here GE says his vote on TG is a policy-vote for FOS'ing inactives, which didn't happen. This looks like a misrep and again a guilty reaction since his name was on the list. In this post he turns around and votes Tina after she joins his wagon. I can agree that Tina didn't necessarily clarify what she agreed with about Darthe's stance on GE, but I don't see anything in her post where she admits her vote was weak. Here he is speaking to Vos about his vote. What was weak about his reasoning? Vos voted you for the reaction you gave to TG's post. Again, I don't see anywhere that TG is using the inactivity angle to FOS or vote anyone. He has said he doesn't like lurkers, which I agree with, but he hasn't cased someone or pushed for any lynches because of it. He is voting Theo for his own reasons which doesn't include her post count. I don't really understand what he is getting at here talking about Vos being a good D1 fallback lynch. Who would you put into this category? I haven't seen many people mentioning they would be okay to lynch Vos, iirc several have stated they don't see the big deal about him.

 

 

 

unvote Theo

vote X for saying I voted inactives and then confirmed that I did.  Phaw.

 

First about calling it the vote count. That was a honest mistake, I truly didn't know that it was called a post count. 

 

Secondly check the bolded part of my vote. I said-' but you could really be voting someone who really maybe couldn't be that active on D1.'

What I meant was if you did vote, not saying that you did, you really could be lynching someone who couldn't be active on D1. Never said you were voting here-all I meant was in a scenario that if you voted.

If you are really posting the post count to get people to participate, all well and good. Say someone was caught up in work all day long and then couldn't find time to be active here on D1, it really could be putting pressure on them for no apparent reason. I myself am busy all through day and due to the fact that my time zone is quite different for most of you, most of the action here happens when I'm asleep. And besides if they really don't have something to say, they are right in their wish to remain silent and observe.

 

Your initial vote for me. Do check what you said right next. 'For saying I voted inactive and then confirmed I did'.Reading my earlier post and my current reply to yours, we can see that I never said you did vote or confirmed it. It looked suspicious to me and now strongly does. 

[GoldeneyesND]

Yeah, I never said you voted and confirmed it. I said you called people out for it and then confirmed it. 

[GoldeneyesND]

  On 1/27/2014 at 12:13 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

I just got home from my conference and should be paying more attention to these games now.

 

I was gonna reread and post when I got home, but hit a patch of ice on the way home and ended up in a ditch.  I'm ok, but I'm still quite shaken so want to calm down a bit more before I post.

 

That sucks man. I'm glad you're okay.

[GoldeneyesND]

Eh screw it. I tried to apply pressure to some people I'd never played with before to try and see if that rattled them. Evidently that is the most evil thing in the world you can do and I kick puppies. Scum has a hold of my train now and they're leading the sheep to a day 1 mislynch. I'm happy with my vote were it is.

 

Also

 

Hard Claim- Cop

 

So that sucks. Appreciate a Doc protect tonight if we have one. 

[hazelkrs1]

Unvote, Vote TGlems

[hazelkrs1]

20 hours left for deadline fyi

 

So if you're gonna vote someone with none or one vote on them, you better couple it with a very strong case against them. If you're vote is parked on someone with only your vote on them, again, you better be presenting some good evidence to support your vote.

 

And in case things start to end up in a clusterfreak, always remember we got Darthe as a good lynch-in-reserve. So no panicking or fearmongering about town losing because of a mislynch, etc.

[Andrej]

Alright, so this'll be my last post of the night. Gotta hit the rack soon, big day tomorrow!

 

Hopefully my activity won't drop too much, I think this first week should be pretty chill. I guess we'll see.

 

unvote; vote Darthe

 

@Des - Why are you voting TG now over Tina?

 

I don't personally like the TG lynch idea. I don't find him scummy and a lot of the votes on him I don't understand. I have no idea what Theo was saying in her post (name-calling, fake scum hunting?), Xthrax is voting on a false premise (from what I gather he's voting TG for his stance on inactive players although TG hasn't pushed this stance to lynch/FOS anyone) and Err just says that TG is 'scummy' without bringing up anything specific.

 

Less than 20 hours to the DL, but I would really hate to pile up on a player I don't think is scum just for consolidation. Darthe is the safer option, obviously, but I could go for a lynch on Err too.

 

1. His potential set-up slip with the Godfather mention that he didn't really refute at all.

2. His vote on TG for basically nothing but a blanket statement. "He's scummy."

 

I'll be home and able to post again sometime in the early afternoon tomorrow but probably not anytime before noon, so I will change my vote if need be. I'd like some input from other players about who they think would be a good lynch.

[Darthe]

Im going for it. unvote vote err