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Basel Gill

By Basel Gill
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Krakalakachkn Spam Master

Krakalakachkn

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Yeah, Mish is playing like scum.

 

 

I'm debating to vote Mish or Panchi.  I believe that if Panchi (or her replacement) flips scum, Des will flip as well.  I think I'll leave that for later though.

 

 

Vote Mish

Krakalakachkn Spam Master

Krakalakachkn

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That was a deilightfully scummy post Berf. I'll cut you some slack since you apparantly hasn't played with Des when he's in tip top shape, but still. That was pretty awful.

 

Oh and:

 

 
By the way, the only two people who DIDN'T post before the Triggers were all met were Krak and Mish. Kronos even left Mish off his initial read-list too. 
 
That is all.

 

 

The game started 4.30 my time at night, and the triggers ended at around noon, wich is the time I get up (I have sleep troubles). I don't get why you feel it was prudent to point that out though.

 

 

Forgot:

 

unvote vote Berf

 

Buddying Des and brushes off any points Berf might have as Berf not understanding Des' meta.  Says she's going to cut Berf slack, but immediately votes him without really giving a reason - just saying that his post was "delightfully scummy" isn't really telling either way.  It's a safer post for scum than town.  

 

@Bold

Also, look how she sets up Berf for the follow up explanation before pouncing on it like he was wrong for explaining his thoughts.

 

 

The triggers thing - I initially checked trying to find out if Basel would activate the game with only one person left yet to check in, thinking that could be a good person to keep an eye on. As it stands, the game was started with TWO, Krak and Mish. My point was not that they were mafia, but quite the opposite - with triggers activated and they yet to contribute, I don't think the mod would assign a role based on that demographic seeing as they are not unique. And if all roles are based on things posted as is likely, this can rule out Mish and Krak as being mafia or any sort of town role.

 

Ok it's big and my eyes are glazing. In a nutshell Tress was the nice target to move a vote to because of Darthe's suspicion, Darthe being true to town meta according to some who have posted. Then when I catch heat, you vote me. All I am saying is that these are good times to put a vote on these two people.

 

I also think the self sacrifice thing is just gross. And the whole "They guilt tripped me into playing" is also a bit erm what for me.

 

I think you are mafia. I think I made a pretty good case and you are wall of texting me out, which will probably work because hey who am I compared to despo in the chain of things at DM mafia, but my case is built on lots of little things all coming together to give me an opinion of you, which I stated.

Your post felt forced and your arguments felt made-up to me. It felt like you had to go trough it because you had put yourself in a situation with Des and couldn't get out of it. Mostly because the way you try to represent things doesn't add up with my view of how things happened and views od Des' actions doesn't match up at all; I felt like you were trying way too hard to push and angle on himt hat would make us suspect him. Add that to the pit at the end with the triggers and me and Krak, wich I still don't see the point of bringing up (unless you are rolefishing, wich is not cool) then it makes for a post that I def feels warrants a vote.

 

Ignores all the specific comments Berf made on Des' play, whether valid or filler, and offers ambiguous paraphrasing without offering any specifics or quotes.  Scummy skimming equals scummy skimping.  I see no rolefishing either.  That bit at the end, "then it makes for a post that I def feel warrants a vote" - she tries to justify her vote after the fact?

 

I really don't see, how after clearly explaining why I mentioned the triggers, my looking into it and mentioning is role fishing or mafia. I'm trying to figure out who might be mafia, and presented my findings.

 

As for the rest, I can't argue that, is your opinion. So we'll see how you look when I flip town.

 

offers a reasonable explanation and leaves it at that

 

You really still think it was a good idea to point out very clearly that it's very likely both me and Krak are vanilla? How is that good for town to have out in the open so early? That is something that I preferred to WIFOM to death.

 

The previous post is where I feel this discussion should have ended, at least as far as Mish continuing to prod Berf about it.  It's certainly out in the open now...

 

I'm kinda forced to talk about what I did and didn't say here Mish...

 

yeah

 

What does that mean? I'm trying to ask you why you felt it as good for town to point it out in the first place. You didn't have to. There was no reason whatsoever to do so, at least with the reasons you've provided. Please explain to me exactly how you think it was a pro-town idea to point out in the first place the thing about the triggers.

 

This just reads as scum getting all up in a towns face.  "Please explain to me exactly how you think it was pro-town..."

 

I was looking for mafia, and presented my findings? 

 

I'm asking people to look for those who they think might have roles. It's not about who is VT, it's about who might not be. I didn't start banging on about it until I was pressed. If you didn't want attention drawn to it, why push me on it?

 

 

And by roles, I mean mafia roles. It just so happens that those same triggers also may contain town power roles. That doesn't mean I'm going to ignore a potential avenue for finding mafia, and encourage others to do the same.

 

 

And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

 

You know, for someone who doesn't want to be seen as VT due to a conversation about triggers, you seem to be doing an awfully underhanded job steering the conversation straight in that direction.  All you had to do was say what should have been said in the beginning, "we don't know what the triggers did, only Basel does."

 

So let's just not look at anything then because of incidental information?

 

I'm trying to check who may have set off triggers, because that is how mafia was assigned this game, like every role yes, but I'm focusing on mafia. I'm looking for people who may have set off those triggers, and what tells they may give, much like everyone else in this game more than likely. It is only natural to maybe check on who has posted when in regards to the triggers. It's an avenue of investigation. I'm copping heat because I happen to be the one who brings it up, when it was always going to come up.

 

If two vanilla towns are confirmed, then that is two nights of NK's not hitting town roles. Forget that?

 

 

Oh yeah, thanks for getting me killed of early, really nice of you.

 

 

You're not dead yet.  Also, earlier you were talking about myself and you being "outed" by Berf.  Why suddenly only worried about yourself?

Pralaya Master

Pralaya

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Welcome to the game, Purr!  And the whole anchovy thing was just teasing, sheeeeesh.  

 

What kind of topping are you?

 

(Yeah, that was based on a movie reference :D)

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Krak does make an interesting case for Mish, and she does seem to be buddying me a bit. And at first I figured she was just being prickly about that whole Berf/triggers thing, but after reviewing it a bit more it does seem like there could be some mock outrage there. If she really was honestly so bothered about it as VT, why make as big of a fuss about it as she did?

 

I'd like to see Mish's response to Krak first. I still think Berf is scummier, but I'll concede that I could be letting the antagonizing thing cloud my judgement a bit perhaps.

 

@Cindy: competing trains can be good for town, especially on day 1, that tends to be the best time for them imo. Funny that you put your vote on me tho and say that its for competing trains however, considering that Mish had more votes at the time and had caught more recent attention.

 

I'm thinking you could be trying to keep from commenting on Mish to keep from linking yourself to a scummate, or that you keep trying to find a justifiable reason to vote for anyone not named Berf.

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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Mish is scum and Berf and Des had a tiff, both of whom were cheerleading despite their best efforts to condemn the other for it.

This post is terribad.

 

Anyone else see it?

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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the antagonizing thing clouds your judgment?

 

how much do you play that it would still do that?

 

You'd be surprised. I do play with my emotions on my sleeves after all.

 

I'll have to check back to see if you did state thoughts on Mish.

Krakalakachkn Spam Master

Krakalakachkn

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Mish is scum and Berf and Des had a tiff, both of whom were cheerleading despite their best efforts to condemn the other for it.

This post is terribad.

 

Anyone else see it?

 

 

I'd like to hear why you think so.  Unless you'd just rather someone else make your argument for you.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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it's fence sitting to give thoughts I'm asked for, not jump on sleazy or easy trains, and not be ready to vote until I'm ready to, without letting myself get pressured into into it? ok.

 

it's poor form to point out something I see as obvious (they didn't post on night 0 = might be triggers --> one of those who didn't vote appears to go off raging at the theorizer for pointing out her VTness and getting her killed early derail which ended most other game discussion) without slapping up a wall of quotes pretty much designed to make ppl blind and dumb? ok.

 

it's scummy to fos ppl without voting them? no, it's not, I'm not sure how the rest of that is seen in the DM mafia kingdom, but foses get pointed without votes all the time. I don't play but I do read. and I don't play well, or happily, so deal with it, it's the best I can do.

 

I'll vote when I'm ready to vote and it'll be when I'm well caffeinated, here, focused, and sober.

 

small window of opportunity, I'll grant you, but it'll happen.

 

and I won't be browbeaten into it.

 

oh, you didn't get from my thoughts and fosing who I think may be scum?

 

you can read what I already wrote to figure out why, I'll be damned if I'm posting a page of quotes and BS spin to bury the game.

 

des, moderate scum read, explained it as well as I can (and yeah, @ tress, of everyone playing I know des best, and I'm going with gut there on his emo vs smug personae, and no, I don't have the same gut feeling on berf, but I don't get a scum read on him no matter who else does, I did get the feeling, from what he typed, and how he typed it, post after post after post or what seemed like unplanned emo meltdown and then defense, that he wasn't posting a planned well thought out calculated wall or walls of text, but was upset and flustered)

 

tress, you went out of your way to get me riled, trying not to confuse that with a scum tell cause I know it isn't, I think your defense of des was odd, and the only thing keeping me from calling that a scum read is apparently ppl who know you both seem to get where you're coming from. or cause I'm not sure of anything, and anyone who pretends to be is full of it and using false bravado, or has reason to know for sure. or that's how it's being spun to cover a teammate. I don't know. I'd call it a slight scum read.

 

berf, see above, slight town read.

 

darthe, you're sneaky, manipulative and suspiciously nice this game. that should worry me. the fact that I agree with a lot of what you've said ahold worry me more. y'all happier if instead of saying I'm not sure I say null tell? you like those words better? means the same thing but whatever, null tell.

 

mish, for that VT rage which was either flawed logic (no, I don't need to explain that further, I don't believe anyone reading the thread could fail to see it) or a hard push to get your VTness cemented in ppls minds, or a push to keep the heat where you wanted it, more than slight scum read

 

peace, got no time to use words, vote flipping with the winds, lazy distracted read

 

kronos, depressed not into it read

 

kaylee, more noncommittal than me but get the feeling she's using her words carefully, kerping her opinions to herself. doesn't give any specifics, doesnt attach her own sentiments to her responses, says thats what he said, or something like it, that's the point he was making. UN translator for Scotland type stuff. null read.

 

krak, no input, or I missed it. no read studying for some test read.

 

tiink, not much to say, what he says makes sense but seems willing to give the benefit of the doubt or is more subtle than me in fosing, null read

 

hally, very little today and every word sweet. null read.

 

panchi - srsly don't like the policy lynch once of, and numbers this low it would be real dumb to lynch someone based on one post and a standard disappearing act. no read at all except do you need a replacement or would running you up get you to post?

 

that's all I got, rip it apart, I'm getting my coffee.

 

good morning.

 

Nvm, caught it right here. Embedded in your thoughts about everyone else as well tho, which is prob why it didn't stick out to me (I'll admit I did skim just a bit since it seemed like an overly emotional response to Darthe). Either way, my fault.

michellem Grand Master

michellem

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I thought it was a really stupid thing Berf did in bringing up the triggers. I decided to roll with it an push on it, both to create some WIFOM to protect myself (I never said I was VT; Berf said that was a high possibility that I (and Krak) was, but I haven't confirmed it and I'm not going to. I also still find it super sketchy that he brought up that set-up talk in the first place) and to see how his reactions. He still hasn't managed to convince me he's town; I still feel like he was trying to get Krak and me to confirm that we were vanilla and so limit the pool of hunting for PRs. Another bonus is the reactions it's brought in others; I'm gonna go through at look at those tomorrow, right now I don't have time because I'm re-reading another game.

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