August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

[Tiinker]

^ @Verb

[Verbal32]

How much did they pay you?

Got a counteroffer?

[Lenlo]

 

How much did they pay you?

Got a counteroffer?

 

[Hallia]

Unvote vote tinker

 

Has been on my scum list along with Ishy. Either would do

 

I don't know about Ish, but I'm pretty comfortable with a tiink vote.

 

Vote Tiink

[hazelkrs1]

Okay okay w/e, I got some free time. Gonna try and get back into this a bit, I got some time to kill.

 

I think the Tink lynch is lazy as hell. There was essentially zero people mentioning his name or fos'ing him before today, then one person (Verb) comes in with a pretty weak case and others start sheeping on it immediately. This is the kind of bad town play that I'm talking about. If you seriously think Tink is scum, do more than essentially parrot Verb's case about Tink pressuring for reveals (which a lot of people were doing at the time).

 

Gonna do a reread now.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright so quick update - 1 page into my reread and I'm thinking either Verbal, Nolder, or Razen is the way to go today. This isn't sarcasm either btw.

 

Nolder/Razen: Both are guilty of the thing that Tina first mentioned in T1: They could be accused of trying to mask their meta by pushing the Csarlami lynch in the exact same way across all three threads. If you missed my analysis on why those two stand out more than the other early pushers on that meta-lynch, too bad. They were the best candidates.

 

Additionally, they both popped as VT in another thread, so this one could be the one one or both of them was trying to cover for. Plus both have basically dropped off the map the past few days.

 

Verbal: Yates put a RVS vote on Verbal on the first page of the game. Not much but it could have been signaling/distancing. Also Verbal WAS the one who made the "case" on Tink, altho the awful train could be more scummies leaping on a townie's coattails instead of town sheeping on a mafia's case. Haven't seen a VC in a while so don't know who's on it.

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count:

 

Serra (3/8): BG, Tina, Krak

Ishy (1/8): Des

Tink (4/8): Verb, Chuckles, Rorsch, Hally

Rorsch (1/8): Tiink

 

 

Not Voting (5/14):

 Nol, Ishy, Razen, Len, Serra

 

1 Days, 22 Hours

 

Nolder Has Requested Replacement

[Niniel]

Alright so quick update - 1 page into my reread and I'm thinking either Verbal, Nolder, or Razen is the way to go today. This isn't sarcasm either btw.

 

Nolder/Razen: Both are guilty of the thing that Tina first mentioned in T1: They could be accused of trying to mask their meta by pushing the Csarlami lynch in the exact same way across all three threads. If you missed my analysis on why those two stand out more than the other early pushers on that meta-lynch, too bad. They were the best candidates.

 

Additionally, they both popped as VT in another thread, so this one could be the one one or both of them was trying to cover for. Plus both have basically dropped off the map the past few days.

 

Verbal: Yates put a RVS vote on Verbal on the first page of the game. Not much but it could have been signaling/distancing. Also Verbal WAS the one who made the "case" on Tink, altho the awful train could be more scummies leaping on a townie's coattails instead of town sheeping on a mafia's case. Haven't seen a VC in a while so don't know who's on it.

 

Well, our cop says Verbal is town. He could be gf of course. 

 

I still believe in my theory about mafia hiding on the triple lynch day 1. So far:

 

Verb - mafia in game 1

Cloud - mafia in game 2

Yates - mafia in game 1 + 2

 

Leelou - the only one we know was town in all threads

 

Left:

 

Nolder - was town in game 1 but we don´t know about the other games

Razen - the same

Player - is town in this game but we don´t know about the other games

Des - town in game 1 and 2

 

 

I have a town read on Des. He also voted Csarmi in the end in all threads which I don´t find that scummy. At that point we were stuck because no one else would get lynched.  Razen have posted so little that I have no read of him. I need to check his posts. 

 

Nolder has been playing scummy. The way he went after our uncc´d cop and wanted to lynch him after the reveal was very strange. I could definitely vote Nolder. 

 

 

I don´t know what to think about the Tiinker train. As I said, I have gotten a third party feeling from him but people just vote him without adding anything of their own. 

[Niniel]

 

Unvote vote tinker

 

Has been on my scum list along with Ishy. Either would do

 

I don't know about Ish, but I'm pretty comfortable with a tiink vote.

 

Vote Tiink

 

 

Especially this vote. Why are you pretty comfortable with a Tiinker vote? 

[Niniel]

I see that Nolder has been asked to be replaced. Will he be replaced or mk´d?

[hazelkrs1]

Alright, gonna have to finish my reread after audit.

 

@Tina: Right, I forgot Verbal was Chuckle's viewing. Could be GF, but meh might as well pursue better leads for now.

 

Nol asking to be replaced... kinda makes me lean more town than scum tbh. I take it he's asking to be replaced in both games he's alive in?

 

So yeah, Razen would be the standout from that group it looks like. Gonna park a vote on him now till I finish my reread.

 

Unvote, Vote Razen.

[Niniel]

After that vote from Hallia I had to check out her posts first. She has 26 posts in this game. 12 of these are pure spam. This is what is left:

 

 

Hallia, still waiting on that case =P

 

That being said, if  the idea is to lynch him in one, then move on to the next thread regardless, wouldn't it be better to only lynch him in 1 at a time, instead of all three simultaneously?

 

 

I think this means that she wanted to lynch Csarmi in one thread at a time. But she never votes him in any of the games so I´m not sure.

 

 

I like how Verbal plays, I would say yes.

 

Serra asked if Verb is a good player and Hallia says yes.

 

 

 

Caught up; good catch!

 

Vote Serra

 

This was when Peace faked the viewing. 

 

You think?  So you don't know, for sure.  I agree with Len, that's pretty anti-town there.

 

Unvote

 

Peace had told that he never viewed Serra.

 

He didn't seem to lose his cool, or spread wifom like fertilizer; I think he did fine?

 

Vote Peace

 

I understand the vote on Peace. But she thinks Serra did fine his response. I don´t know why she thinks that because he barely responded at all. The only thing he said was that he wasn´t mafia.

 

Fair enough, or you were scared that if he flipped town, and you were wrong you'd get strung up?

 

The logic doesn´t really work here. As Peace would say later, if he was mafia he would already know that Serra would flip town.

 

 

 

That you stopped it early makes me lean slightly away, but to answer you, that fear would be mafia I'd say.  Getting someone lynched by saying 'xxx is scum' and for them to flip town is scummy.  

 

Continues...

 

Ahh, I see what you mean peace.  I said if because I don't know his alignment, but yes, as mafia I guess you would know it.

 

And now she see what Peace means.

 

 

 

He did indeed backpedal.

 

This was about Peace. 

 

Summary: She has some strange posts here but her vote is not strange. Peace lied and got lynched for it. 

 

I know right? First you don't talk enough, then you don't say the right things, no pleasing some people!

 

Answer to Des, I think. 

 

Why wouldn't the doc save from two kills? Doesn't a doc's protection usually mean they're safe from all regular kills (barring things like strongarms?)

 

Well, just a comment about how the doc role works. 

 

Hmm.  The way roles have been named thus far, methinks this was a symp.

 

 

I would agree

 

 

I'm going with Cloud today.  He was early onto the Csarmi lynch with no reasoning really.  Looked opportunistic.   More recently he tried to start a lynch onto Chuckles, who has revealed himself as cop.  And lastly, what caught my eye was the way he tried to defend Peace at first when he was getting run up after the fake viewing on Serra.  It seems to me he was hoping to get some town credit by looking good and not voting for Peace when he seemed to be a sure lynch.  Then it stalled out, and sure enough he hopped onto the train after all as the deadline got closer.  

 

Vote Cloud

 

Her only post yesterday. Gives reasons why she votes Cloud.

 

 

Unvote vote tinker

 

Has been on my scum list along with Ishy. Either would do

 

I don't know about Ish, but I'm pretty comfortable with a tiink vote.

 

Vote Tiink

 

 

Only post this day so far. No reason for her vote.

 

 

 

Summary: Hallia posts very little and half of it is spam. Her votes are not very scummy but she has not given any thoughts at all about players that are not in the main focus. She has mostly just voted for the leading train. Mafia laying low or just not interested town? 

 

 

Will check out Razen after breakfast. 

[Niniel]

Razen has 8 (!) posts in this game. I only found six when scrolling through the pages. Maybe someone can find the other two. Luckily there are no spam. :)

 

Vote: Csarmi.

 

People started voting Csarmi and Razen jumped on the train without any explanation. 

 

 

Don't come any closer. I'll do it, I swear.

 

Do what?

 

 

He wonders what BG means. Good question. 

 

Cloud said something interesting in the 1603 thread, that got me a little bit curious. 

 

I don't think that a scum team would bus their teammate this early. It would be a big sacrifice and I think they will just try to break it down instead.

 

That got me to thinking about the whole staggering the lynches argument presented by BG here:

 

Ok I'll put it this way. We stagger the lynch, heck doesn't matter which thread to me, so I arbitrarily chose this one.

 

What I think is interesting is that BG proposes to lynch him LAST in this thread.  Normally, you'd see people saying that Csarmi's scummiest in thread A, or thread B, or whatever thread they think and that he should be lynched first in that that thread.  But BG says he arbitrarily chose this one to let Csarmi live.  I'd like to know the definition of arbitrarily he used, because to me, this looks like he's trying to deflect attention from him in this thread by making it conditional on how he flips in other threads to determine whether he gets lynched here or not.  Because that's what staggering the lynch is.

 

Criticizes BG´s choice of saving Csarmi in this game. 

 

Vote: Serra.

 

After Peace´s fake viewing. 

 

 

Well, it's worth a shot as we have already had two Vengeful Killers and the timing was a bit too perfect with how things turned out in T1.

 

 

Unvote, Vote Peace

 

Didn't it occur to anyone that this is EXACTLY what Peace thought would happen when he admitted that he didn't view Serra as scum?  Peace gets lynched for lying about the view, and gets to take out a townie with his death.  Negating any advantage we gain by lynching him.  I'm surprised people haven't seen or thought about that.  Everyone's more focused on the fact that OMG, he lied about viewing Serra, why would any townie ever do that?  They're trying to find the real cop - and take them down with Peace as he gets lynched.

 

I'm going to unvote, vote: Chuckles.  I still don't like the fact that he wanted people to vote for Csarmi without making the commitment to vote himself.  If he felt that Csarmi was scum, he should have voted instead of pushing from the sidelines.

 

 

This one is hard to understand. It looks like he is saying that Peace could be vengeful that tried to get himself lynched to kill a townie (cop). But then he votes Chuckles. Ehm... Razen, explain this to me. 

 

 

 

honestly i dont want to waste a day on people going back and forth cuz of me, im town cop 

 

and is lily in the game?!!

 

id go with krak tbh, 

 

*facepalm*

 

Ffs man.. Why did you claim now without any kind of pressure?! Peace had the most votes on him and the only thing that you did with this move is most likely getting yourself killed tonight.

 

3 things:

 

1. I am again posting even though I probably shouldn't. It's 4am here, and checking how this thread is going is literally the last thing I'm doing before passing out. This is not me lurking, this is me having busy weekends... Surely, if I actually was following the thread, the most opportune time to vote peace, if I were scum trying to get him lynched, would have been DIRECTLY after he pulled the brake line.

 

2. I, too, would expect a Doc protection to only prevent a single kill. If this is different here, that'd actually quite surprise me. @mod: if a doctor role exists in this game, does it protect from multiple kills?

 

3. I believe chuckles' cop claim. There's should be now way in heck we're lynching him today. Yates is good for his unvote and further explanation. Nolder is less so. Even though I know no one will listen to my suggested play, my suggestion would be to ask the bullet-proof townie in this thread to claim, which would pretty much confirm that all 3 threads have the same PR's, meaning we can keep chuckles alive. Before anyone complains about me role-fishing: I suggest outing probably the weakest PR we have in this thread to stop people from lynching the cop, who may be our only hope of winning this, as well as giving us valuable information for the town-games in the other threads. If there actually is a bullet-proof townie in this thread and the two others, I would actually also consider the possibility that the game could be solved by a game-wide mass claim.

 

I will actually read the other threads tomorrow (probably morning)...

 

I actually really like this idea from Serra and after reading the last few pages I have a town read on him. 

 

 

I'm confused nolder, your saying that you'd rather lynch off an UN CC cop and have me reveal the 1 townie who will be the main focus of NK's come night, its as far as I can see a lose lose sitution for town

 

You need to get those results out there! It doesnt matter if the scum team is going to go after confirmed townies after you die, because it will be way worse if we waste our lynches on them! We can figure out a lot more with your info.

 

 

I prefer lynching serra

vote serra

And we still have time, if everyone moves trains (ill be here till the DL, ill check in as often as I can)

 

Umm.. no. Peace is the way to go.

 

 

This post is enough to make me believe that Cloud is scum.  Here's why.  First of all, he puts on the fake "wtf, why did you reveal with no pressure on you at all" hat and tries to gain town cred.  He kept hammering home the point that Chuckles was going to get killed that night and used that as his reasoning to push him to reveal who his innocent was.  He even went so far as to justify Chuckles revealing the innocents so that we don't waste lynches on them after he's dead.  There's only one person at that point, but he's speaking as if there's a lot of people there that it could possibly remove from the picture.

 

Why was he so certain that Chuckles would be killed?  Normally, I'd believe it a semi-safe assumption to make, but there is a doctor still out there.  And no doctor's going to be dumb enough to not protect an un-CC'ed cop.  I think Cloud is going on blind faith in Chuckles because he knows that he's telling the truth.

 

Last, he pushes people to vote Peace over Serra.  This was after the hammer on Peace, but I think it interesting that Cloud agreed with Serra's idea re:BPV claim, and tried to direct Chuckles to vote for Peace.

 

Vote: Cloud

 

 

And here is his vote from Cloud. No post today so far.

 

 

Ehm... what can I say? Is this town or mafia? Impossible to know with six quotes. Razen, please answer my question and give us some thoughts about the remaining players.

[Niniel]

It would be good if we could get more thoughts from Hallia, Lenlo, Krak and Razen. 

 

I have a stronger mafia read on Serra and Nolder than those above but they have been more active. I am still suspicious of Tiinker and he didn´t really defend himself very well but I don´t like that train, especially not Chuckles´s and Hallia´s votes. 

[Tiinker]

 

Unvote vote tinker

 

Has been on my scum list along with Ishy. Either would do

 

I don't know about Ish, but I'm pretty comfortable with a tiink vote.

 

Vote Tiink

 

This vote makes me sad.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay didn't have time to finish my wot, but I'll get out quick thoughts and a vote here real quick.

 

Rorschach: After looking through, it def looks like confirmation bias on your part in regards to Tink. You seemed to be tunneled on him almost the whole game even though other more significant stuff was going on. Don't have a high town read on him, but also basically have an almost zero scum read on him.

 

Okay as for who we should lynch today, it should actually be between Serra and Ishy.

 

Serra: Sad that I forgot how scummy he looked to me before. Is also VERY strongly tied to Yates, I'll show more evidence why later when I get home.

 

Ishy: eh not enough time atm. Will have to post my reasoning in a bit.

 

Unvote, Vote Ishy.

[Pralaya]

@Des What are our choices? Some of the main things that has happened in the game 

 

- csarmi getting lynched Day 1 (across all 3 games), peace fake viewing, chuckles claim as cop, cloud digging his own grave - unusual events. I frankly am lost in town guys playing in a weird manner throughout the game. 

 

But during day, we are back at square one. No definite reads on anyone. Given that, we have to go with the best guesses.

 

I am still not convinced about the reply Tinker gave me. However, I did say that I have more suspicions on Ishy than Tinker and given a choice, it will be Ishy followed by Tinker. But either is fine.

 

That said, I like Tina's case about Hally. She has been latching into trains right from peace and cloud. But again not enough to get a very good read.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay, so I'll post a lot more on Ishy (and Serra and others as well), but for the reasoning that I can remember off the top of my head:

 

1. Overplayed that he was advocating lynching Csarlami "for the lulz"

2. Fearmongered about there being 4 dead townies by day 2

3. Bandwagoned almost the entire game, makes a joke out of it even.

4. Mock outrage @ Peace false claiming, pushing policy lynch after someone else votes him first.

5. Series of posts where it "dawns" on him what Peace might have been doing looks entirely rehearsed and sketchy

6. Shows "incredulity" @ Cloud fake claiming Cop as VT, even tho Peace had done the exact same thing earlier. MOAR MAWK OUTRAYGE!

7. Chimes in acting all butthurt about stuff that happened in other thread, instead of actually offering game thoughts. I think he's on coast mode since he knows his team has almost won this.

 

More coming in a sec. Gotta trim down the fat a ton tho, got over 50 quotes grabbed

[hazelkrs1]

Why I think Nolder is town:

 

 

 

 

I suggest it be dropped by tomorrow unless there's a good reason for it or we're going to all get way too twisted.

Translation: "I am also scum in one of these threads and don't want to forget which one!"

 

Thanks for making tomorrow's choice easy, brother! 

  

 

That completely defeats the purpose of lynching him at all really.

Are you and him scum together in this game?

 

Doesn't address the fact that that ruins the strategy of lynching him at all in any thread.

 

 

Handsome.

Charming.

An excellent mod.

Can eat a bag of dic#s hotdogs.

Reads my mind.

 

Welcome to Town Pile, Nolder, population 2!

 

 

 

Me and my buddy Yates here gonna wreck some scum today.

Brofist - engaged.

 

 

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that Csarmi tried to create a meta across all three games. As I said he bridged them.

He made himself the same player in each of the three games. Therefore he's playing all three games at once so to speak, not each one individually.

Meaning, for the moment, we have to do the same. And we are.

I'm confused.  What does any of this have to do with where your name lands next to a role when spun at http://www.random.org/lists/ ?

 

 

Okay so Yates starts out fosing Nolder for something weak, then he heavily buddies him for a bit, and then he seemed to have a weird hang up when Nolder had messed up and didn't post a link in response to Yates' post about Gambler's fallacy (I didn't grab every quote in the exchange, but Yates pressed Nol about it longer than seemed necessary). Basically looks like Yates was trying to first set up an easy lynch, or at least throw the suggestion out there to see the reaction, then chose to buddy him, either to make him look more trustworthy in Nol's eyes, or (what I think is more likely) that he wanted to link himself with Nol so that if he went down Nol would do so as well.

 

And then he once again tried seeing if he could lay out some fos's on Nol that could gain some traction.

 

Oh hey guys I just read my role PM again and after comparing with some of the other claimed names I think I may have been mistaken about the names thing.

My last names are similarish I guess but they were different enough for me not to catch it at first. My bad and sorry for confusing everyone.

 

I don't really see scum Nol coming forth with a post like this, that could potentially attract negative attention towards him. 

 

He had other townish posts, but I didn't necessarily agree with every one. Tbh some stuff still makes me suspicious of him, but basically Yates interaction with him clears him for now in my mind.

 

 

 

Why I think BG is town:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Nolder

 

Why aren't you voting for Csarmi? :(

 

 

Let the man live in at least one game.

???

 

FoS: BG

 

 

Yates throws an FOS @ BG for this, and soon after I saw a lot of people subtly pushing for a BG lynch in the future, people that I already found questionable.

 

At the time, it was arbitrary. Voted him in the first one, kept him on my watch list in the second, and willing to let him live longer in the 3rd.

That being said:
 

Full claim: Chandler Rose, I'm uninspired (in other words, I suck) - vanilla town

This claim doesn't sit right with me. You see, I'm vanilla town in this game and my full name is Redshirt #3. You have a full on name.

Unvote: Vote Csarmi
 

 

Would be pretty stupid for BG to come forth with a claim like this if he was scum, since obviously he would have probably discussed names first on the QT if he thought there was something there.

 

Only thing that sucks is that BG actually IS diabolical enough to pull a move like this as scum to try and make it seem like he "dropped a towntell". Either way I look at it in context and I see it as more proof of him being town than diabolical scum.

 

My name is also the same across all three threads, just slightly modified to represent the difference in time periods, ie Wilem, William, Vilem, etc.

I find it odd that you are different in this regard BG. Makes me wonder why that might be.

 

 

 

My name is also the same across all three threads, just slightly modified to represent the difference in time periods, ie Wilem, William, Vilem, etc.

I find it odd that you are different in this regard BG. Makes me wonder why that might be.

Yeah. I thought BG was testing the claim [though I don't know why he would lie about a name claim] at first.

This is weird.

 

 

Thought I quoted more, might have forgotten to grab em all. Either way I saw a fair amount of people pushing to fos BG, one of whom already flipped scum and others who I find very scummy.

 

So yeah, town read on BG

 

 

 

 

One of the only things I found that looked off on Tink was this:

 

 

 

 

 

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

So why avoid putting him at L-1?

 

Well, he didn't want to hammer me in this thread. I wonder why - he actually did hammer me in T1.
Don't make him scum though. Maybe he thinks he's got a better lead here on someone else. Not sure why he voted Chuckles though.

 

 

I'm waiting to see the mod post there. Pretending to self-hammer is a bad play. If you were town over there and pulled it anyway, maybe that'll make me reconsider.

 

 

This does look kinda sketchy, stating intent to hammer but also somewhat fence-sittingy. Either way he really hasn't said much that made me feel sketchy about him, and while I haven't agreed with every one of his posts, overall I think he's made town looking for scum type posts.

 

This was the piss-poor reasoning behind his lynch push today:

 

 

Tiinker is overselling the Cop reveal angle.  I wanted him to reveal the reads, too, but he was just a little too eager.  And ready to jump on something.

 

My last hurrah is that he's scum.

 

Vote:  Tiinker

 

And then some questionable people indeed hopped on the lynch (Chuckles does seem to be the cop apparently, but his bandwagoning was a poor choice imo, and Hallia's bandwagon vote was just awful. Pral... not sure about him. He has seemed to be fixated on Tiinker this game. Seemed to avoid most of the major issues during my reread)

 

Also think Tina is town, Krak leaning slight town, and unsure about Verbal. Now to get on to my cases...

[Verbal32]

For the 57984759435th time:

 

The. Cop. Viewed. Me. As. Town.

 

 

In your re-read of Tiinker, did you notice him willing to push any train?  It doesn't matter who the lynch is - he's willing to hop anywhere?  Is it town who doesn't care?  Or is it scum jumping anywhere as we haven't landed on a teammate yet?

[Verbal32]

@Tina: Right, I forgot Verbal was Chuckle's viewing. Could be GF, but meh might as well pursue better leads for now.

 

 

Also think Tina is town, Krak leaning slight town, and unsure about Verbal.

 

You gonna try hanging your hat on me being a GF, then?  Or are you just forgetting facts of the thread mere posts later?

[hazelkrs1]

Case on Ishy:

 

I think you're overanalyzing a game that is after all, only three hours old.

That said, I'm just pushing his lynch for the lulz.

 

 

 

So..you want Nolder to stop posting his thoughts?  Why?

Never said that, don't put words in my mouth. But when I see a logic fail in something he says, I'm certainly going to say something.

Let's be honest and call this what it is. A lynch for lulz.

 

 

Two posts where Ishy states the Csarlami lynch is "for the lulz", when it wasn't even close to that, and he was the only one saying that. Sounds like he ws trying to keep his hands clean (He also ended up not voting for Csarlami in the end... but if I recall he might not have voted him initially in this thread, but did in the other two, and then unvoted him in one or both. Point is he was much more vehemently against Csarlami's lynch in the other threads as opposed to this one)

 

 

 

I think the mistake you're all making is considering all three threads to be interconnected in some way. Other than theme, they're not.

I think the mistake YOU are making is NOT considering all three threads are interconnected via "Live Meta."
 
Think about it.  Three wagons to look at.  If BG is voting for Salami in 2 games but not the third, why is that?  What would it mean for BG if Salami flips scum in that ONE game?  He was down for the plan in the first two, why not the third?  See what I'm saying?
 
This is the last time I'm going to explain this.  Please bookmark for future reference.

I've seen this explanation. And summarily rejected it. If BG is voting Salami in two games and not the third, I just attribute it to Salami playing scummy in two and not the third. Simple.

As far as meta goes, I'm already well versed on everyone heres metas. Except for you newer people. I don't need to rely on differences between these three games alone to tell me anything. I'll take each one on a seperate case by case basis.

 

 

 

 

Thank you for making my point for me Captain Obvious.

If you can't figure out how to use live meta to your advantage, that's on you.

Yeah....I'm not really looking for gameplay or strategy tips, I know what I'm doing. Thanks for offering though.

 

 

Ishy gets really prickly towards Yates. Could possibly be why Yates was NK'ed? Ishy was pissed at Yates added with Yates' wifom about possibly being the Cop...

 

 

My name is also the same across all three threads, just slightly modified to represent the difference in time periods, ie Wilem, William, Vilem, etc.

I find it odd that you are different in this regard BG. Makes me wonder why that might be.

Yeah. I thought BG was testing the claim [though I don't know why he would lie about a name claim] at first.

This is weird.

 

 

Yates agreeing with Ishy's fos @ BG...

 

You should be policy lynched for that garbage.

 

This was after Peace revealed that he fake claimed Cop

 

 

I smell Gambit.

Could be. And the more I think about it, now would be a helluva time to try. There are four dead Townies in this thread compared to zero scum, they're probably feeling cocky.

And even if not, what if the real Cop had cc'd genius? That was completely reckless and stupid.

Unvote. Vote Peace.

 

 

If Ishy wanted to policy lynch him, why not vote him right when he said so? Peace hadn't posted again in between the last two posts, but a couple others had agreeing that the play was bad. Looks like Ishy waiting to see if there would be a consensus on a Peace lynch.

 

Also fearmongers about there being four dead townies.

 

As I said, Town isn't in a position to pull boneheaded moves, we're getting our asses handed to us so far, but scum is in a prime position to try something off the wall. Which is what you did.

So you're either scum or a detriment to Town. Gotta go.

 

 

More fearmongering, still on just Day 2. Having ONE mislynch by that point does NOT equal "getting our asses handed to us".

 

 

 

Which question? The one about how I think Serra defended himself?

He didn't really offer a defense.

 

Right...what would you do in that circumstance as town...as scum?

 

 

As Town? Claim my alignment and role.

As Scum? Lie.

Why even ask that?

 

Ahhh. I c wut yu did thar.

 

Drunk Ishy is willing to think about this some more.

Unvote.

 

This is the famous exchange which I found uberscummy. Like it was slowly dawning on silly drunk Ishy... yeah I didn't buy it then, don't buy it now.

 

Conversely, should bad behavior go unpunished?

I'm undecided, so convince me.

 

Then even after he "saw the light" and partially understood Peace's move, he still apparently seems willing to vote him. Uberscummy.

 

 

My scum list atm:
Ishy - mainly for that exchange with Peace where he seemed like something was slowly dawning on him... that looked like way too fake of a reaction to the situation

GFY? EAD?

 

 

Confrontational. Not helpful town (he isn't usually, but usually tries to contribute at least a little more than he has so far this game).

 

I know right?   First you don't talk enough, then you don't say the right things, no pleasing some people!

 

 

Hallia chimes in to defend him.

 

We haven't seen a Cop flip, or had a Cop claim in any if the three threads yet have we? Other than Chuckles'? I'm not convinced that there's a Cop in any of the setups. Add to that his reluctance to share the results of his views other than the easy Yates crap and I'm thinking he's full of shit.

 

Sows seeds of doubt on Chuckles without voting him. Also breaks the CoC, but once again that's nothing new for him.

 

So yeah, vote Ishy yall.

[hazelkrs1]

For the 57984759435th time:

 

The. Cop. Viewed. Me. As. Town.

 

 

In your re-read of Tiinker, did you notice him willing to push any train?  It doesn't matter who the lynch is - he's willing to hop anywhere?  Is it town who doesn't care?  Or is it scum jumping anywhere as we haven't landed on a teammate yet?

 

No in fact I didn't notice that at all. In fact, on two different lynches he could have easily bandwagoned but actually went against the grain. Voted ... can't remember, Cloud or Chuckles I think when everyone was voting Csarlami Day 1. Even kinda poked fun at how others would call him out for it. Then when Cloud was pulling bizarro moves at the end of his lynch, once again Tiinker said he would hammer, and had pretty easy justification for doing so, but didn't end up doing so.

 

So yeah, honestly on my reread, Tiinker really didn't seem that stinky at all.

 

 

@Tina: Right, I forgot Verbal was Chuckle's viewing. Could be GF, but meh might as well pursue better leads for now.

 

 

Also think Tina is town, Krak leaning slight town, and unsure about Verbal.

 

You gonna try hanging your hat on me being a GF, then?  Or are you just forgetting facts of the thread mere posts later?

 

 

Uhm, yeah, I could still see you being a GF possibly. But dude, you're literally like 5th or 6th in my list of people I'd like to see lynched atm. Why you freaking out about a NULL read I have on you?

[Verbal32]

 

We haven't seen a Cop flip, or had a Cop claim in any if the three threads yet have we? Other than Chuckles'? I'm not convinced that there's a Cop in any of the setups. Add to that his reluctance to share the results of his views other than the easy Yates crap and I'm thinking he's full of shit.

 

Sows seeds of doubt on Chuckles without voting him. Also breaks the CoC, but once again that's nothing new for him.

 

So yeah, vote Ishy yall.

 

Is that part of your case?  Does it pertain to this game in any way?

 

 

 

 

For the 57984759435th time:

 

The. Cop. Viewed. Me. As. Town.

 

 

In your re-read of Tiinker, did you notice him willing to push any train?  It doesn't matter who the lynch is - he's willing to hop anywhere?  Is it town who doesn't care?  Or is it scum jumping anywhere as we haven't landed on a teammate yet?

 

No in fact I didn't notice that at all. In fact, on two different lynches he could have easily bandwagoned but actually went against the grain. Voted ... can't remember, Cloud or Chuckles I think when everyone was voting Csarlami Day 1. Even kinda poked fun at how others would call him out for it. Then when Cloud was pulling bizarro moves at the end of his lynch, once again Tiinker said he would hammer, and had pretty easy justification for doing so, but didn't end up doing so.

 

So yeah, honestly on my reread, Tiinker really didn't seem that stinky at all.

 

 

@Tina: Right, I forgot Verbal was Chuckle's viewing. Could be GF, but meh might as well pursue better leads for now.

 

 

Also think Tina is town, Krak leaning slight town, and unsure about Verbal.

 

You gonna try hanging your hat on me being a GF, then?  Or are you just forgetting facts of the thread mere posts later?

 

 

Uhm, yeah, I could still see you being a GF possibly. But dude, you're literally like 5th or 6th in my list of people I'd like to see lynched atm. Why you freaking out about a NULL read I have on you?

 

 

Hehe, I like how you classify that as "freaking out".  Good stuff.

[bgrishinko]

Unvote: Vote Hallia