Underworld Mafia [Basic] - Game Over. TOWN WINS!

[hazelkrs1]

Whoops sorry RTE, just saw the last part of that post. I didn't know what the vc was and didn't want Peace to get hammered by a mafia too fast or something

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count

 

 

Peace ( 5/6): Despo, Ithi, Chuckles, Turin, Dice

 

Panchi (1/6): Peace

 

Dice (1/6): Andrej

 

 

Deadline. (10:35 BST Monday, July 8th)

 

Peace is at L-1.

[peacesells]

Awesome scene. Rte.

[peacesells]

Hammer me scum.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count (Thanks Despo )

 

 

Peace ( 4/6): Ithi, Chuckles, Turin, Dice

 

Panchi (1/6): Peace

 

Dice (1/6): Andrej

 

Not voting: Despo, Mish, Hallia, Vam, Panchi, Dap

 

 

Deadline. (10:35 BST Monday, July 8th)

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Awesome scene. Rte.

 

Thank you! Happy someone is reading them. Trying to do the Theme justice. Can't say I expected to write that one though

[dapianoplay3r]

Hammer me scum.

I don't think Vams online

 

Anyway looking back through BGs stuff now

Brb

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Whoops sorry RTE, just saw the last part of that post. I didn't know what the vc was and didn't want Peace to get hammered by a mafia too fast or something

 

It happens. Skimmers...

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Sidenote: Sorry this took so long. Was out and about and hadn't checked my emails. Going to Scotland tomorrow for a week but shouldn't affect things too much I hope

[bgrishinko]

*Hooooooowwwwlllllll*

[peacesells]

UNVOTE.  VOTE DAP

 

His game has been way too safe.  It's dap or turin at this point.

 

andrej

ithi

chuckles

 

look like town to me. 

[Andrej]

Nice shot Peace.

 

Okay, that's 2 down and we still have today to achieve a lynch before the DL. Let's get this thing wrapped up.

[hazelkrs1]

I'm willing to vote Dap. Wanted to reread the thread before voting, but deadline is coming up so there's not really much time to start a new train. Dap was the other cautious one of the pair, and BG defended him, saying his caution made more sense. Simple really.

 

Unvote, Vote Dap

[Andrej]

Unvote; Vote Dap

[Andrej]

right so i misread something. the bit where i thought aj was saying i was mafia was actually directed at vam. fine i was wrong on that.  However I don't like his bloodthirsty play. he just wants everyone killed it seems. He automatically trusted peace with never a thought as to peaces role or motivation. thats bad play.

 

Show me the quote, please. I have had a good read on Peace this game, and therefore when he soft-hinted his PR I trusted him with it. And now we have another Mafia dead. Call it blood thirsty, but the only facts we have are coroner reports. Everything else is just speculation and WIFOM for the most part. Death is the only way to get answers.

 

 

Ithi. What more could I do? Seems like vig and Lucian is all there can be right? Maybe I can fly too?

 

What more would there be to say?

 

That's why I thought you comment was sarcastic. I can see it differently now although I don't know what you were asking for.

 

Peace  whats this? are you unsure of your role?

 

And Lucian totally fits a SK not a vig.  Ithi is right in that he swore vengence against all vamps    he sent a team to kill the council. he has been capturing and torturing corvin people for their blood.   he only bites michael to get that blood. he had never intended to turn him. he works with kraven and tannis out of self interest.

 

I think Peace is a SK  and as such not town. vote peace

 

 

oh ande peace lied too    said he would kill the next person who voted him but then didnt kill laffinboy.  thats not town either

 

All of these ping. Perhaps it is just to me because I have been gunning towards him, but seriously.

 

Just caught up again. Game has gotten somewhat snarky it seems.

 

@Peace: you are correct in that u have a hard time reading you. However, I've made the mistake in the past of ignoring my suspicions on someone cause I usually thought they were scummy, and it hurt my team that game. I don't want to make the same mistake again. I do need to learn how to read you better, but that doesn't mean you get a free pass every time I think you're a bit scummy. Fact is, you were acting cautious about a lynch that ended up bagging scum. Its not rocket science man.

 

As for your claim, looking at canon it does appear to be more likely that its a SK or something, could be a vengeful vig tho. I think people arguing that a role couldn't exist in a basic game is a little silly. Basic game doesn't mean NO odd roles, it just means its a simple setup.

 

I do agree with you on one thing. When I'm vig I don't put up my kill for voting.

 

@Andrej: You COMPLETELY twisted my words there honcho. I never said people that aren't in the limelight should be ignored. That was a bold outright lie man. I said nothing about Dice had stood out to me, which is the truth and also kind of the norm for him. I don't often see him.involve himself that much in games, he usually plays from the sidelines. Do I like it? No. But lurkiness isn't a scum tell for him. Incidentally I thought his points on you in a recent post made sense to me however. You DO seem fairly bloodthirsty this game. That said, your character claim still makes it so that you aren't my highest pick for mafia, but it could of course be a mod given safe claim.

 

Dice's point about Peace lying about killing the next person on his train was wrong tho. Peace issuing the threat and then not following up on it was fairly pro-town imo.

 

To the bolded: I agree on the role thing. I have seen Day Vigs in Basic games. I don't feel that I twisted your words, or necessarily lied as you said. I disliked how you seemed so nonchalant towards Dice when I asked your opinion on him. If you say that is his meta, then I can understand your view better now. I agree that lurkiness isn't necessarily a scum tell, but I am always wary of those play from the sides. It is way too easy to let Town destroy each other, thankfully we are on top in this game.

 

I have another question: Do you still think I am Mafia following BG's flip?

 

 

No Lucian created the first unborn hybrid. But was corvinas progeny.

 

Turin. Since when is omgus a scum tell. It's a emotional fail.

Maybe we should take a poll of who thinks omgus is a scum tell? You said it is an emotional fail. Why? Because mafia have more to lose by being killed. So they are.more likely to react to a vote or fos by attacking their attackers. But you already know that.

 

And why are you attacking the most confirmed town player in the game?

 

 

Turin is buddying hard. He sort of has been all game. After the reveals he rode Ithi's coat tails all the way through Cloud's lynch and did a fair job of painting Dap and Peace scummy at the same time for their hesistance. He is a good bet for Mafia me thinks.

 

Unvote

 

Dap makes sense but I am still unsure. I still want Dice dead, even if it's just for my own personal satisfaction. (Yes, I am blood thirsty.) Turin is the next biggest target IMO.

[peacesells]

That's my opinion guys. Don't be lazy thinkers.

[peacesells]

Some good thoughts there Andre.

[dicetosser1]

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quote 389 AJ

 

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just cos Peace killed a Mafia don't make him Town.

 

 

Serial Killers are usually stand alone 3rd party.

 

Andrej - Turin buddys me ALL THE TIME and it's got nothing to do with Mafia. If you have anything other than that to look at then I will see what you have to say.

 

Been some fast votes on Dap there. Him and Peace were VERY defensive of Cloud.

 

Also Mod confirmation of character in a scene is a little odd. I don't think RTE would have done that if it were all cut and dried. He wouldn't have confirmed a Town hmmm?

 

So am still very much thinking Peace is a Serial Killer.

[Ithillian Turambar]

AJ has also been pretty much going along with whatever Peace wants. And was really sure he was Town. And Peace picked his target with no quibbles.

 

AJ very certain Dice was Mafia and BG mafia and now is certain Turin Mafia.

 

Him very certain a lot.

 

That concerns me.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Also Turin did not ride my coat tails. He was helping me to not get Lynched and proving that the logic was off for Cloud to be Town Doc.

 

That you over simplify it into buddying and costing through is very annoying.

 

Just ignore the fact that he's mentioning me and actually look at what he is saying.

[Turin Turambar]

AJ, did you read where I voted Peace. I had stated that I was all set to vote Cloud (which was before the reveals) but Peace's blatant and repeated refusal to vote cloud had me looking at him. It was apparent to me that when Cloud claimed Doc and also Eve which was nearly immediately cc'ed by Ithi that Cloud was the one lying. Therefore he was the one to vote. I did notice and remark that Peace refused to vote him at that point. It is the anti town that are the most afraid of looking bad so they tend to play "by the book" so they can fall back on that and use it as a form of plausible deniability. Dap did it and stood his ground. Peace did it and was wishy washy IMO.

 

I also agree with Ithi that a SK will kill whomever they think will help them get to the end of the game. Cause THAT is their goal, not to help the town win. He got very lucky in his choice of BG in my opinion. That you and he were both so certain to risk the shot just to take heat off of him although there was no way he could use that to actually show he was town feels off to me.

 

Yes I will generally agree with Ithi. She is right way more than she is wrong. Also, for whatever reason she is Vanilla Town more than just about anyone I can recall.

 

I think it is way more likely that peace is a SK than he is a vig. Lucian really was out for his own goals not that of the coven.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I'm looking to have Vanilla Town renamed as the 'Ithi'.

 

Good morning lovely

 

Do you see that big bad wold buddying up to the almost confirmed Town?

 

Shame that almost confirmed Town can only see other buddying and not those doing it to him. Wood and trees I think.

[Turin Turambar]

AJ you seem to be very concerned about me and Ithi. Why are you so unconcerned about the way Peace is buddying to you? He basically  let you choose his vig target on what boiled down to a hunch. How would you have felt if BG had been the cop and not mafia?

 

The cavalier way that shot went down does not seem town to me.

[Ithillian Turambar]

*wold = wolf

 

It don't work nearly as well when you spell it wrong.

 

I blame early mornings.