Halloween mafia game

[Nolder]

I find your exaggerations deeply disturbing Kat

 

 

I don't see them as exaggerations. Maybe things went down differently in real time, but on a reread it was pretty clear that people had tried to inform you that your vote, and continued backing it up after having the flaws explained, was not making any sense.

 

It was explained over and over that the comment you latched onto so fiercely was out of context and a stretch to be believed as you presented it. The fact that you held on to it and pressed on further through multiple people explaining this, it is very believable that people would find something off about your actions, be confused and unsure about your actions enough to vote you. With nothing else to go on I feel those votes were justified and I believe the case was well established to the point that people didn't really need to spell out the whole case each time they voted.

 

In fact, I wonder if they had spelled it out each time if you would then spin that into them being mafia and trying to look too townie by making casing to look like the idea was original and overly padding their day one vote when you deemed it unnecessary. Perhaps I have your game play all wrong, but then it seems erratic and based on what will give YOU the most info, but not what will give the Town most info.

You're doing it again

 

Perhaps it's just the way you speak but your words do not match what happened IMO

[LilyElizabeth]

John (1) – Darthe

Mish (2) – Tina, Nolder

Nolder (5) – LZM, John, Mish, Basel, Moon

Basel (1) – Random

Christine (1) – Krak

Krak (1) - Despo

 

Not voting – Kat, Verb, Player, Rand, Lolguy, Christine, Lenlo, Barm

 

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Monday 5PM MST

[RandA lThor]

I find your exaggerations deeply disturbing Kat

 

 

I don't see them as exaggerations. Maybe things went down differently in real time, but on a reread it was pretty clear that people had tried to inform you that your vote, and continued backing it up after having the flaws explained, was not making any sense.

 

It was explained over and over that the comment you latched onto so fiercely was out of context and a stretch to be believed as you presented it. The fact that you held on to it and pressed on further through multiple people explaining this, it is very believable that people would find something off about your actions, be confused and unsure about your actions enough to vote you. With nothing else to go on I feel those votes were justified and I believe the case was well established to the point that people didn't really need to spell out the whole case each time they voted.

 

In fact, I wonder if they had spelled it out each time if you would then spin that into them being mafia and trying to look too townie by making casing to look like the idea was original and overly padding their day one vote when you deemed it unnecessary. Perhaps I have your game play all wrong, but then it seems erratic and based on what will give YOU the most info, but not what will give the Town most info.

You're doing it again

 

Perhaps it's just the way you speak but your words do not match what happened IMO

 

I think its just the way she speaks.

[Kathleen]

This is my first time trying to do muliquotes and i think i may have missed a few or messed up some. Since I can't post and edit it if i did mess up i'm gonna start this with 'sorry if this is messed up in order or missing something'.

 

Here we go:

 

Rand, I'm not sure I'm following you.....?

Isn't it a little early for roleclaims Verb?

 

It begins.

 

Oh we're voting already?

Well let's get Verbal outta here since he's already setting up his roleclaim

That's completely scummy

 

Vote Verbal

 

Very next post, Nolder makes a very big deal of voting Verbal. First clamping onto the position of the vote. (Yes, I tampered with this quote - I only took the formatting off the words Vote Verbal to make things easier on the mod. If you have a concern about it, look up the quote yourself)

 

Hmm. Nolder is jumping at shadows. And you stole the first vote on verb. Which i wanted.

 

I will get you back verby.

 

Ill vote Nolder

 

I dont see a role claim

 

Pointing out the flaw in Nolder's reasoning. It is 'stated/explained'. I tampered with vote formatting again - will do for the rest as well.

 

I agree with LZM, the verbal vote sends off. Nolder

 

He clarifies after that he meant 'seems' not 'sends', but either way, it is mentioned 'over'.

 

Um, Nolder, he meant that he was not following my train of thought, not following me at night. That really seems like you're grabbing at nothing, FoS.

 

'and over', by a 3rd person, thus 'he was told by multiple people'.

 

Um, Nolder, he meant that he was not following my train of thought, not following me at night. That really seems like you're grabbing at nothing, FoS.

Convenient excuse

 

Worried your partner is going down huh? I would be too if I was you

 

Nolder 'latches on' to the stance (commits to it and goes with it) and turns the tables from his acting suspicious to their being suspicious of others for voting him.

 

Um, Nolder, he meant that he was not following my train of thought, not following me at night. That really seems like you're grabbing at nothing, FoS.

Convenient excuse

 

Worried your partner is going down huh? I would be too if I was you

 

Wait, 3 possibilities.

 

1. You're joking.

2. You're jester.

3. You're mafia.

 

Can you tell me which one, because after he said that, I clearly explained what I meant and before that I clearly said something that confused him.

 

Whoops, add this

 

4. You are a townie who is so confused right now he has no idea what is going on and completely read that out of context.

 

'and over'

 

Are those really the only four possibilities you could come up with or were they just the ones that best fit your narrative? Why are you so concerned with my one vote?

Because it literally makes no sense.

Because it literally makes no sense.

You dodged the other question there but that's ok we'll roll with it

Why doesn't it make sense?

 

look back and read it in the context, he meant he's not following what I am saying, the context has no reason for him to randomly reveal, that plus the pushing of this lynch is what makes me suspect of you.

 

Nolder holds his position, as once again ('and over') the reasoning for the votes on him is explained.

 

More to come, I had this all typed out ready to post and DM said it was too many quotes, funny that for something doesn't seem justified to be called 'over and over' there are just too many quotes of instances to fit in one multiquoted post.

[Kathleen]

Unvote, Vote Nol

The first one I thought was him just making a joke vote, but based on his reaction, I'm inclined to say he was literally jumping onto nothing. Scummy to me.

 

'and over'

 

Wow Nol o.O you make no sense at all, grasping at straws much?

 

Vote Nolder

 

'and over'

 

Um, Nolder, he meant that he was not following my train of thought, not following me at night. That really seems like you're grabbing at nothing, FoS.

Convenient excuse

 

Worried your partner is going down huh? I would be too if I was you

 

This seems to be overreacting slightly, and grabbing at nothing. I didn't see Verb setting up any kind of a roleclaim when you voted him, Nol, but that could have been a joke vote. But then when you began taking some heat for it, you didn't take it so well. Unvote, vote Nol.

 

'and over'

 

Because it literally makes no sense.

You dodged the other question there but that's ok we'll roll with it

Why doesn't it make sense?

 

look back and read it in the context, he meant he's not following what I am saying, the context has no reason for him to randomly reveal, that plus the pushing of this lynch is what makes me suspect of you.

What makes you think I wasn't already fully aware of the context?

And since when is pushing a lynch for inane reasons on day 1 scummy? We have to lynch somebody

 

Nolder still not letting up, still questioning others without backing down or admitting his vote/stance was empty.

 

Unvote vote Nol

 

You're confusing me.

 

'and over'

 

Rand, I'm not sure I'm following you.....?

Isn't it a little early for roleclaims Verb?

Oh we're voting already?

Well let's get Verbal outta here since he's already setting up his roleclaim

That's completely scummy

 

Vote Verbal

 

Seems obvious Nolder is gauging reactions with these posts. Well, I assume so at least.

 

Verbal trying to help Nolder out here? Nolder's vote didn't cause people to flock to Verbal, but I still find it odd that with Nolder's position and actions it would result in Verbal defending him.

 

The reaction I really wanted was from you but oh well

 

Got some interesting bandwagons on me I'll have to look over those in a second

 

Unvote

 

As soon as Verbal's defense comes in Nolder unvotes. Then turns the focus on to who came after after him and claiming everyone is scummy for voting him. Heat is off him, thanks to the person he voted for being able to explain away why Nolder held his cause so long when Nolder didn't explain it well enough to get heat off him himself. Then he turns the attention to all those who voted him and explains how they should get heat for coming after him.

 

If you want me to quote the post where you quote all the people who voted you and give your thoughts to prove that you did it, I'll do that, but I'll assume you recall that well enough since you asked for people's thoughts on it later.

 

Perhaps something is lost in how I word it to how you think I mean it, but I hope the above helps explain what I mean, and how to me, things did go down just I had worded it in my previous post.

[LilyElizabeth]

Sakaea is replacing LZM.

 

I wasn't going to recycle players, but she had such a short time....

[Kathleen]

Welcome back Sakaea! Now, try not to trip over anymore triggers :P

[LilyElizabeth]

But some triggers are good....

[Kathleen]

But some triggers are good....

 

Yes, but I want to trip over those ones :D

[michellem]

Welcome back Kae! ^^

[RandA lThor]

Welcome back Kae. :)

[Nolder]

Unvote, Vote Nol

The first one I thought was him just making a joke vote, but based on his reaction, I'm inclined to say he was literally jumping onto nothing. Scummy to me.

 

'and over'

Odd example if you aren't going to show us what you think is the first incident and out of order in the timeline to boot but whatever

I guess you could call it "over and over" if you want

Maybe the reason I don't take it as seriously is because I think at least a couple of these people are scum and so their opinions don't matter to me

Hearing something "over and over" doesn't matter if I don't think they have towns interests at heart

 

Wow Nol o.O you make no sense at all, grasping at straws much?

 

Vote Nolder

 

'and over'

For example this vote

Stock phrases and a bandwagon vote

 

Um, Nolder, he meant that he was not following my train of thought, not following me at night. That really seems like you're grabbing at nothing, FoS.

Convenient excuse

 

Worried your partner is going down huh? I would be too if I was you

 

This seems to be overreacting slightly, and grabbing at nothing. I didn't see Verb setting up any kind of a roleclaim when you voted him, Nol, but that could have been a joke vote. But then when you began taking some heat for it, you didn't take it so well. Unvote, vote Nol.

 

'and over'

Wanna know something funny?

I thought Rand was playing along at first

I was disappointed to find out he was serious

 

Because it literally makes no sense.

You dodged the other question there but that's ok we'll roll with it

Why doesn't it make sense?

 

look back and read it in the context, he meant he's not following what I am saying, the context has no reason for him to randomly reveal, that plus the pushing of this lynch is what makes me suspect of you.

What makes you think I wasn't already fully aware of the context?

And since when is pushing a lynch for inane reasons on day 1 scummy? We have to lynch somebody

 

Nolder still not letting up, still questioning others without backing down or admitting his vote/stance was empty.

What is your point?

 

Unvote vote Nol

 

You're confusing me.

 

'and over'

I feel like I need to comment on every one of these but I really don't so here's some filler

 

Rand, I'm not sure I'm following you.....?

Isn't it a little early for roleclaims Verb?

Oh we're voting already?

Well let's get Verbal outta here since he's already setting up his roleclaim

That's completely scummy

 

Vote Verbal

 

Seems obvious Nolder is gauging reactions with these posts. Well, I assume so at least.

 

Verbal trying to help Nolder out here? Nolder's vote didn't cause people to flock to Verbal, but I still find it odd that with Nolder's position and actions it would result in Verbal defending him.

I don't mean to insult anyone here but I think Verbal is a sharp mafia player

I thought it was pretty obvious what I was doing and Verbal figured it out

All I can say about the people who voted me is they either didn't figure it out or are scum

 

The reaction I really wanted was from you but oh well

 

Got some interesting bandwagons on me I'll have to look over those in a second

 

Unvote

 

As soon as Verbal's defense comes in Nolder unvotes. Then turns the focus on to who came after after him and claiming everyone is scummy for voting him.

Again you exaggerate

I didn't feel like picking apart your other post but now that I've had a nap I'm ready to go at it

I never EVER claimed everyone was scummy for voting me

I in fact picked out the votes which I felt were legit votes and not ones I think we should be worried about while also picking out the bad ones and giving my opinion on what I thought was wrong with them

 

Heat is off him,

2 votes out of 7 doesn't really seem like the heat is off to me but ok

 

thanks to the person he voted for being able to explain away why Nolder held his cause so long when Nolder didn't explain it well enough to get heat off him himself. Then he turns the attention to all those who voted him and explains how they should get heat for coming after him.

Again you exaggerate and...well really it's just a lie I don't know why I'm going easy on you here since this is easily the third time

I did not say I thought the people who voted me should get heat

I separated the "good" votes from the "bad" and prioritized the "bad" and voted accordingly

 

If you want me to quote the post where you quote all the people who voted you and give your thoughts to prove that you did it, I'll do that, but I'll assume you recall that well enough since you asked for people's thoughts on it later.

 

Perhaps something is lost in how I word it to how you think I mean it, but I hope the above helps explain what I mean, and how to me, things did go down just I had worded it in my previous post.

Go ahead

You'll only be putting the lie to your own words

[Nolder]

Oh and based on your words it sounds like you are more suspicious of me because in your eyes Verbal "came to my aide" (I don't see it that way but w/e)

 

I invite you to lynch one of us if you are that concerned

Preferably Verbal since I know I am town but if the only way I can get my cases across is by dying I'm ready to do that

[Kathleen]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

[RandA lThor]

yeah, that should have been obvious to me by now Nol, I was really confused on why you were doing that, I should have thought of that. In my defense, I got a reduced amount of sleep that whole week though.

[hazelkrs1]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

 

[Nolder]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

Ok

Well as long as we are clear that you said what you meant to say

[RandA lThor]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

 

 

[Sakaea]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

 

 

 

Hi all.

 

This is going to be in lots of games now, isn't it?

 

Need to catch up to see what I missed, due to weekend, and work, I prob won't be able to contribute too much til Monday morning. I will say that on my quick catch-up read through something seemed off about Krak and Nolder both, but unsure as to why right now.

[hazelkrs1]

I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you on the semantics of the posts. I only quoted them because you seemed to be failing to see where the 'over and over' and the 'fiercely defending' I was talking about were coming from. You said my "words do not match what happened IMO" I was simply showing you that IMO my words were exactly how things appeared to go.

 

 

 

Hi all.

 

This is going to be in lots of games now, isn't it?

 

Need to catch up to see what I missed, due to weekend, and work, I prob won't be able to contribute too much til Monday morning. I will say that on my quick catch-up read through something seemed off about Krak and Nolder both, but unsure as to why right now.

 

Hey Kae

 

 

Yeah, Ishy wants me to make it an official DM mafia meme. ERHAMERG I'm drunk

[Sakaea]

I agree with my bonded

[LilyElizabeth]

John (1) – Darthe

Mish (2) – Tina, Nolder

Nolder (4) – John, Mish, Basel, Moon

Basel (1) – Random

Christine (1) – Krak

Krak (1) - Despo

 

Not voting – Kat, Verb, Player, Rand, Lolguy, Christine, Lenlo, Barm. LZM/Sakaea,

 

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Monday 5PM MST

 

That's tomorrow!

[LilyElizabeth]

Lolguy has asked to be replaced. I don't have any more backups. Got a friend who would want to play?

[LilyElizabeth]

Peacesells will be replacing lolguy.

[RandA lThor]

Welcome peace!