Seanchan and Trollocs

[thisguy]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

[Suttree]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

[thisguy]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

Thanks. It just seems odd that the DO wouldn't send reinforcements over there. Obviously, they're a threat. I don't know, just seems odd.

[GYLD]

To elaborate a bit, the BWB heavily implies that the Mirror World animals, grolm, lopar, toraken, etc, were originally brought to Seanchan to combat the Shadowspawn and that they were quite effective at it.

[Glyphwright]

Since we don't know exactly what the Dark One wants to do in the Last Battle, it could be that the Seanchan continent itself is as irrelevant to his goals as Shara and the Aiel Waste.

 

Then again, it could be that the Seanchan, the Waste, and Shara will all be flooded by Trollocks along with Randland. It seems to me these nations don't venture into the Blight any more than Randlanders, which means there could be any number of Shadowspan held there in secret.

[fuzz1717]

It seems to me these nations don't venture into the Blight any more than Randlanders, which means there could be any number of Shadowspan held there in secret.

Or we could see the use of Waygates (are there waygates in Seandar? i'm assuming so because the Seanchan have Ogiers) or Portal Stones to mount an invasion of the Seanchan and the Sharans. But in general, trollocs seem to originate from the Blight, and for most of recent history have been contained by the Borderlanders. Only recently have Trollocs been spotted in the south (many people in the south, like the Altarans and the Two River folks as of TEotW, believed that Fades and Trollocs were myths).

[MountaineerWV]

Waygates in Seanchan...

 

I've noticed this comment thrown out a few times, and I am curious why anyone thinks there are Waygates in Seanchan? The most simple and basic proof against it is the fact that the Ogier from Randland do not know of the Ogier in Seanchan. There has never been contact between the two continents. The Ways have been tainted for less than 500 years.

 

If there was a Way Gate connecting the two continents, we would know about it.

[Suttree]

It seems to me these nations don't venture into the Blight any more than Randlanders, which means there could be any number of Shadowspan held there in secret.

 

The blight in Seanchan per RJ is empty. As for Shara they claim the Trolloc Wars never touched them but we know that is a lie.

[rand4747]

likely the blight is similar to in Randland but it just doesn't have the shadowspawn. But there is probably still the trees and everything else that can kill you.

[Durinax]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

it is Sarek, a Seanchan high blood.

"You were sent to me because Sarek looks above himself and has designs on Serengada Dai and Tuel, not to ask of what the Empress has --"

just wanted to point out this gem from tFoH

[Suttree]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

it is Sarek, a Seanchan high blood.

"You were sent to me because Sarek looks above himself and has designs on Serengada Dai and Tuel, not to ask of what the Empress has --"

just wanted to point out this gem from tFoH

 

Great catch Durinax!

[Luckers]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

it is Sarek, a Seanchan high blood.

"You were sent to me because Sarek looks above himself and has designs on Serengada Dai and Tuel, not to ask of what the Empress has --"

just wanted to point out this gem from tFoH

 

Great catch Durinax!

 

Nice!

[Durinax]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

it is Sarek, a Seanchan high blood.

"You were sent to me because Sarek looks above himself and has designs on Serengada Dai and Tuel, not to ask of what the Empress has --"

just wanted to point out this gem from tFoH

 

Great catch Durinax!

 

Nice!

did I find something luckers overlooked? :O

[Luckers]

You did. :-)

[A Rant Lord]

As to why the DO doesn´t send reinforcements to Seanchan blight I think is simple, it has to be A LOT of shadowspawn if they are trying to do something. Right now Seanchan is fighting Randland and thus happy chaos and chipping numbers off human forces. Same with Shara I think, so far that we know of they have been keeping themselves away from the general fighting so you don´t want turn their attention to you by sending in shadowspawn, if you have the choice to only fight one enemy, destroy them first before turning your attention to others.

[Durinax]

As to why the DO doesn´t send reinforcements to Seanchan blight I think is simple, it has to be A LOT of shadowspawn if they are trying to do something. Right now Seanchan is fighting Randland and thus happy chaos and chipping numbers off human forces. Same with Shara I think, so far that we know of they have been keeping themselves away from the general fighting so you don´t want turn their attention to you by sending in shadowspawn, if you have the choice to only fight one enemy, destroy them first before turning your attention to others.

could have to do with the rather large expanse of water between Randland and Seanchan

[Morden]

I think the main difference is that Seanchan is a lot more unified and far more aggressive and adaptable than almost any empire in Randland. They wiped out the Shadowspawn there says it all really. If they had time and the Last Battle wasnt almost upon everyone, it makes you wonder what might have happened... Could have been a last battle without any shadowspawn at all, but something similar to the war of power. fighting between humans etc

[Sid]

For those who haven't seen, I'm rereading LoC. I haven't reread these books in some time, so I may be wrong. That said, seems to me that trollocs and fades don't bother folks in Seanchan land over the Aryth. This kinda bothers me. Do they only attack people on one continent?

 

They were exterminated on that continent long ago. Of course we have no idea who or what as been rampaging over there recently. The "murderer" ruling openly in Seander very well could have some tricks up his sleeve.

it is Sarek, a Seanchan high blood.

"You were sent to me because Sarek looks above himself and has designs on Serengada Dai and Tuel, not to ask of what the Empress has --"

just wanted to point out this gem from tFoH

Nice one Durinax

I know how often I've read this series, and I can only guess how many times Suttree and Luckers have, and yet there's still stuff from the early to mid-90's that we all either overlooked or forgot about.

 

Who would have thought Spock's dad was capable of such a thing?

[Morsker]

Who would have thought Spock's dad was capable of such a thing?

I ended up wasting an hour on Wikis the other day when I thought Sarek looked familiar and googled it...

[ReDJeLLo]

So, I read, and have been reading these forums for years without ever having posted and have never been in the position I am in now that forces me to post.

 

I have no idea what the Sarek reference means or why it is significant.

 

Don't laugh at me.

[XoMeltdownoX]

So, I read, and have been reading these forums for years without ever having posted and have never been in the position I am in now that forces me to post.

 

I have no idea what the Sarek reference means or why it is significant.

 

Don't laugh at me.

Check out Ideal Seek (www.idealseek.no-ip.com) for looking up references you may be unfamiliar with.

[Orderofolde]

Waygates in Seanchan...

 

I've noticed this comment thrown out a few times, and I am curious why anyone thinks there are Waygates in Seanchan? The most simple and basic proof against it is the fact that the Ogier from Randland do not know of the Ogier in Seanchan. There has never been contact between the two continents. The Ways have been tainted for less than 500 years.

 

If there was a Way Gate connecting the two continents, we would know about it.

There are not any waygates in Seanchan. The talisman of growing must be taken to a place in order to grow an access from it into the ways. As traveling was lost to the Aes Sedai the two continents were separated and have remained so.

[Luckers]

So, I read, and have been reading these forums for years without ever having posted and have never been in the position I am in now that forces me to post.

 

I have no idea what the Sarek reference means or why it is significant.

 

Don't laugh at me.

 

In Towers of Midnight there is a reference to the fact that a murderer rules in Seandar (the capital city of Seanchan). The Sarek reference is to a High Blood who apparently had asparations above his station and a somewhat nasty temprement which may well fit with the murderer. He certainly the only named candidate we have.

 

It's thin, but it was a nice little thought and a damned nice catch for those of us who like to play with minutia.

[roocifer]

So, I read, and have been reading these forums for years without ever having posted and have never been in the position I am in now that forces me to post.

 

I have no idea what the Sarek reference means or why it is significant.

 

Don't laugh at me.

 

In Towers of Midnight there is a reference to the fact that a murderer rules in Seandar (the capital city of Seanchan). The Sarek reference is to a High Blood who apparently had asparations above his station and a somewhat nasty temprement which may well fit with the murderer. He certainly the only named candidate we have.

 

It's thin, but it was a nice little thought and a damned nice catch for those of us who like to play with minutia.

 

Could Sarek = Demandred???