[ADVANCED/KITCHEN SINK] The Axe or the Hammer - GAME OVER

[Spirit1025]

I think that's very reasonably said, Nynaeve.

 

I don't know how you can start a Mafia game other than with joke voting on someone. When the game first starts, you don't know anything about anyone (unless you're mafia and you know who's mafia) so you've got to either lynch somebody or lynch nobody. And what do you learn from lynching nobody? At least in my experience, (which is pretty limited and mostly with in-person mafia, which is somewhat different to play) you don't learn much at all from that. So you've got to vote somebody, and without knowing who's guilty, it's just going to be a random guess. You can justify it with whatever silly reason you like for the purpose of making conversation and trying not to hurt the feelings of whoever is being voted for.

 

Since somebody's got to be lynched, I'll vote Amega. At this point, anyone is as good as anyone else for voting. I'll change it later if someone else seems more suspicious.

[hotpocket2006]

Which makes your vote worse Nolder.

how so?

 

I am aware that Amegas was a no coroner game *rolls eyes* But the same thing happened to Key, building a train for absolutely no reason, just to get her to crack, but it didn't work. It turned into a big pile of nothing. Which is what normally happens. Or we out roles.

ok you're right

let's not make trains on anyone

as a matter of fact let's all live happily ever after!

 

you're being idealistic here Song

I don't mind that you're wary of "trains with no reason" but there's a line between being wary and overcautious

no one is asking for anyone to claim so I don't know what you're so worried about here

 

No that's been the theme of DM mafia games since I've returned to playing, before it was a lot different. We don't need to push people to claim, we just have to use our minds. And we also don't have to randomly start a wagon for no reason at all. There's plenty of time to get info and then start a wagon for a purpose which leads to a lot more info then a dead end.

explain to me how this is supposed to work then

 

Step 1

...we don't pressure anyone in any way, we make non committal joke votes and as soon as anyone comments on them or a train is started we retract the votes ASAP

 

Step 2

??????

 

I didn't say you don't pressure people, you just don't randomly pressure people for no reason. I'm not going to continue the arguments about how mafia should be played on this thread any longer. kthxbai.

[John E. Kelley]

Are we all just going to copy and paste every D1 from every Mafia game every time? Some like joke votes, some don't. Some see the value in them, some don't. Making votes based on who sees the value in them and who doesn't is the biggest cliche. It's the single most predictible thing. Neither Ameg nor Nol is scummy solely due to their views on joke votes. Anyone who disagrees with them isn't scummy either. This is the exact same argument we deal with every time. I'm not making a joke vote and anyone else that doesn't isn't scummy. Those who decide to get started with joke votes aren't scummy either. We all have different viewpoints on how to start the first Day and whichever method you decide to use to get started is just fine with me.

 

And just as an aside, it seems we have a few newer players here this time. Just letting you guys know, Nol is famous around here for shaking the tree and see what falls out. Activity in and of itself, is not a sign of scumminess. He's probably the most active player on DM, whether as scum or town, so give him a chance to shoot himself in the foot before you make a snap decision. Personally, I like his style, but others are quick to call him out as scum because he's a vocal player. Many others do the exact same to Ameg because he uses "Net-Speak" as I call it when he types. I urge you all to give them the benefit of the doubt and learn their styles before you make a swift D1 decision.

 

We have some time due to the holiday for us all to feel each other out and at least make an attempt to do some "real" scum-hunting on D1. This idea that it doesn't matter who we lynch first day is bogus. I've lynched scum on D1 in just as many games that I've lynched town, it can be done if we don't fall victim to the "town is going down first day regardless" mentality.

[amegakure]

Hmmm...nothing spectacular has happened. But im usually on my phone when I post and its ridiculously slow type..since the touchscreen is going out. That's when my netspeak comes out..

[WWWwombat]

I don't like the way Boyo subtly pushed back at Nolder by accusing him of defending Amega.

 

Vote: Mr. Soy Boyo

[ed2funy]

so pretty much you have no logical reason for joke votes other than its fun and that their convient instead of having to immediatly start scum hunting.

 

It's pretty stupid to say you shouldn't have ANY joke votes and begin scum hunting immediately.

Let's look at an example below.

 

A: Hey everyone. First poster. Yay me.

 

B: Vote A. Because you take pride in posting first. Obviously you are scum and are excited about your role.

 

C: Oh my god, B is mafia. Look how aggressive they are voting already! D:

 

 

A: I think B was just confused. I am excited because Ama is running this game, and I love her.

C, on the other hand, seems to be looking for a good excuse to vote!

 

 

Can you imagine EVERY game starting like that? Where it immediately, "omg, that vote is scummy!"?

Joke votes help start the game because they get people posting. Someone will gather 2 or more votes, and then people start over analyzing why and connections, and the game begins.

 

 

 

That is all on that part. I think it's stupid to hold your stance, Amega.

[ed2funy]

caught up

have nothing to say really

I have no interest in this Amega thing

my beef was with Soy based on his reasoning (I said as much in my posts to him did I not?)

Amega doesn't strike me as anything one way or another

 

This post seems way too neutral.

 

 

I mean, all right, I'll admit that Amega didn't necessarily have to voice her disdain for joke-voting, but COME now--what are you guys doing here? You know, I'm wondering if this whole Amega case is merely a distraction from everything else. There's something not right here with this. All I'm seeing is one line from Amega being blown out of proportion, leading him to utter suspicious words or somesuch and multiple interpretations to the case. My interpretation may sound ludicrous--I simply don't know how to word myself better.

 

In short: You find Amega scummy. I don't. This is from my perspective. You can choose to agree with me or disagree. Perhaps my opinion will change in the near future.

 

This part of your post.

 

First portion is ridiculous. The "Amega case" is not a distraction. There just isn't much else going on! Nothing of note has gone on that has no stemmed from his remark and Boyo's vote.

You yourself are doing more to enlarge the situation then people who are taking part in it.

 

The last line....doesn't sit well. We know people's minds change in mafia. Don't have to leave yourself a way out by saying you might change your mind in the "near future."

Makes it sound like if it doesn't work out well for whatever plans you have, then you'll vote.

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, Nolder has a point on soft claim.

I almost meant to point this out earlier while I was skimming through--restates opinion already made by a few people, short, no more content besides that, smack-dab in the middle of a more-fueled discussion, nothing more to add after this?

 

Just found it as a slightly odd, out-of-the-blue post.

Ed does that a lot

 

^

[amegakure]

so pretty much you have no logical reason for joke votes other than its fun and that their convient instead of having to immediatly start scum hunting.

 

It's pretty stupid to say you shouldn't have ANY joke votes and begin scum hunting immediately.

Let's look at an example below.

 

A: Hey everyone. First poster. Yay me.

 

B: Vote A. Because you take pride in posting first. Obviously you are scum and are excited about your role.

 

C: Oh my god, B is mafia. Look how aggressive they are voting already! D:

 

 

A: I think B was just confused. I am excited because Ama is running this game, and I love her.

C, on the other hand, seems to be looking for a good excuse to vote!

 

 

Can you imagine EVERY game starting like that? Where it immediately, "omg, that vote is scummy!"?

Joke votes help start the game because they get people posting. Someone will gather 2 or more votes, and then people start over analyzing why and connections, and the game begins.

 

 

 

That is all on that part. I think it's stupid to hold your stance, Amega.

 

I think its stupid to try and push you on opinion on to other people ed. But im glad you have decided to actually join in the conversation. First off i dont believe i ever said that we should all do away with joke votes and do this proposal of yours. I was merely defending my opinion. Before you try and twist my words and reasonings get your facts straight :)

 

Vote ED:

[SBoydW]

I wasn't especially in love with Soyo's reasoning, though.

 

I wouldn't say I'm in love with it either. It was the first micro fracture I saw so I went for it.

 

I don't like the way Boyo subtly pushed back at Nolder by accusing him of defending Amega.

 

Vote: Mr. Soy Boyo

 

I was subtle? huh... and it wasn't really an accusation, more of pointing out a possibility. It's just as possible at this poinst you're connected to nolder.

 

 

 

 

Or maybe I am... dun dun dunnnnnnnn

 

*edited to fix italics

[Leyrann]

I wasn't especially in love with Soyo's reasoning, though.

 

I wouldn't say I'm in love with it either. It was the first micro fracture I saw so I went for it.

 

I don't like the way Boyo subtly pushed back at Nolder by accusing him of defending Amega.

 

Vote: Mr. Soy Boyo

 

I was subtle? huh... and it wasn't really an accusation, more of pointing out a possibility. It's just as possible at this poinst you're connected to nolder.

 

 

 

 

Or maybe I am... dun dun dunnnnnnnn

 

*edited to fix italics

 

To me, that feels as a WIFOM...

[SBoydW]

Or you don't recognize a joke when you see one.

[mmeeshal]

Speaking of jokes....

 

Boyo, you spelled "point" wrong in the post you edited.

[Leyrann]

Or you don't recognize a joke when you see one.

 

I was talking about "Or maybe I am". You could say this and hope we should think "this is too obvious, they are not on a team", while you are, or you said it while you... Well, you get what I mean, I think?

[hazelkrs1]

WOT incoming, I apologize in advance but I'm mainly active at night and this game was crazy active today... also <3 you Ed

 

uh....meta here....but i have recently thought joke votes irrelevant and a great tactic for scum to delay the beginning of day one. I just felt the need to say these thoughts again. I dont want anyone to think im trying to fly under the radar.

 

Just want to get this out here, I too find the joke voting phase of DM mafia to be mildly frustrating. The main reason I say that is because before DM mafia I had only played mafia irl, and there was never a lynch D1. It was always "hey everyone. Kk now go to sleep. Now everyone wake up. Player X is dead." And everyone would pretty much start huge meta cases against one another to decide who would ost want to kill Player X.

 

I'm willing to lynch anyone. Would you like if I put my vote on someone else... it seems like you may be back dooring a defense of amega here. You don't seem to have a a problem with only 1 person voting him (pandy) but when a second person jumps on you all the sudden are suspicious...

 

Nolder hit the nail on the head methinks.

vote soy

 

And this reeks of fishyness. Nol makes an extraordinarily thin case against me (not even voting for me himself) and you're all the sudden like Oh yeah Nol is a mafia god and nailed a scum the first day on the first try, after only analyzing the second post that person made. Seriously?

 

Note: Possible Amega/Nol/Hoof connection (it's only day one though so probably not much to that.)

 

I really didn't like this post. First of all, he doesn't include ANY kind of caveats to the "I'm willing to lynch anyone" statement. A townie should always be somewhat hesitant to lynch on D1 since there is so little information available. They can be completely fine with loading tons of pressure indiscriminately, but being almost eager to lynch is an easy way to get tunnel vision early on. Then in the other parts of his post he goes off the OMGUS deep end, pretty much taking Hoof's vote personally. Overly defensive imo.

 

uh....meta here....but i have recently thought joke votes irrelevant and a great tactic for scum to delay the beginning of day one. I just felt the need to say these thoughts again. I dont want anyone to think im trying to fly under the radar.

I assume he means that the longer people joke around and not do anything the more rushed people get to lynch someone, someone who is usually town.

 

I think you are right, and because of that - UNVOTE.

 

I just don't like how quickly Ley unvotes here when he should have been able to surmise the reasoning behind Amega's post himself.

 

I didn't see that as a vanilla softclaim... just as a statement.

 

Same here.

 

 

I don't think that joke votes are necessarily a bad thing, Amega. It's a way to get the game started - how else is a good way to start the game then to vote? It would be quite boring without that. Also, as you can see, something always happens and the game actually starts. As long as people unvote then and start playing, what's the harm in the first one being for fun?

 

Incidentally, the serious phase of the game only actually starts one the joke voting phase has ended. Personally, and I might be completely alone thinking this, I would be completely fine with games starting out with more of a joke/meta hybrid phase that launches discussion much easier. As in "Ooooooh Player X pulled off such a sneaky gambit recently I wanna see his corpse hanging in this game Vote Player X"

 

I'm thinking there might be something to Boyo's thought that maybe Amega and Nol are connected somehow. Amega says Boyo jumped out and attacked the first person to try and initiate game play...when he voted Amega...and Amega didn't do anything to initiate game play except attack the idea of joke votes. I hadn't seen any effort to try and scumhunt from Amega, or any thoughts on the game thus far. I think Boyo's vote, and Nol's reaction to it, were what actually got the game rolling.

 

Only real reason I quoted this post was because I liked seeing Amega's name cascading down the paragraph (although it prob won't have the same effect now that it's shrunken down into a quote box )

 

This isn't true, I agree with Meesh and key. Joke votes get the game started and can lead to more if they are left unhindered, that's how games normally go. I know, I've played a lot of mafia. Also declaring that joke votes are over and then telling people to stop being funny is highly ridiculous. Stop trying to take the fun out of the game. Also to declare you aren't going to joke vote because it doesn't advance the game, but then not do anything about it is silly.

 

Bolded part mine. First of all, Amega didn't try to tell people to stop being funny. That was Ley. I would normally toss a soft FOS at you for skimming, but considering the fact that Leyrann color's his text it seems a lot more like you REALLY want to push Amega's lynch, and trying to build a case just to support that lynch.

 

people find fun in different things [see: Timmy, Johnny, and Spike]

 

I didn't know you played magic Nolder!!! Why do I get the feeling that we would really get along irl?

 

I'm TOTES MUHGOTES a Johnny btw, my favorite decks are infinite combo decks and mill decks Although I am pretty competitive, and my decks usually pwn, so maybe a 60/40 Johnny/Spike split.

 

Okay back to the game. Song and Meesh are pinging to me somewhat, but for now Soy is pinging hardest. Unvote, Vote Soy

[SBoydW]

WOT incoming, I apologize in advance but I'm mainly active at night and this game was crazy active today... also <3 you Ed

 

uh....meta here....but i have recently thought joke votes irrelevant and a great tactic for scum to delay the beginning of day one. I just felt the need to say these thoughts again. I dont want anyone to think im trying to fly under the radar.

 

Just want to get this out here, I too find the joke voting phase of DM mafia to be mildly frustrating. The main reason I say that is because before DM mafia I had only played mafia irl, and there was never a lynch D1. It was always "hey everyone. Kk now go to sleep. Now everyone wake up. Player X is dead." And everyone would pretty much start huge meta cases against one another to decide who would ost want to kill Player X.

 

I'm willing to lynch anyone. Would you like if I put my vote on someone else... it seems like you may be back dooring a defense of amega here. You don't seem to have a a problem with only 1 person voting him (pandy) but when a second person jumps on you all the sudden are suspicious...

 

Nolder hit the nail on the head methinks.

vote soy

 

And this reeks of fishyness. Nol makes an extraordinarily thin case against me (not even voting for me himself) and you're all the sudden like Oh yeah Nol is a mafia god and nailed a scum the first day on the first try, after only analyzing the second post that person made. Seriously?

 

Note: Possible Amega/Nol/Hoof connection (it's only day one though so probably not much to that.)

 

I really didn't like this post. First of all, he doesn't include ANY kind of caveats to the "I'm willing to lynch anyone" statement. A townie should always be somewhat hesitant to lynch on D1 since there is so little information available. They can be completely fine with loading tons of pressure indiscriminately, but being almost eager to lynch is an easy way to get tunnel vision early on. Then in the other parts of his post he goes off the OMGUS deep end, pretty much taking Hoof's vote personally. Overly defensive imo.

 

uh....meta here....but i have recently thought joke votes irrelevant and a great tactic for scum to delay the beginning of day one. I just felt the need to say these thoughts again. I dont want anyone to think im trying to fly under the radar.

I assume he means that the longer people joke around and not do anything the more rushed people get to lynch someone, someone who is usually town.

 

I think you are right, and because of that - UNVOTE.

 

I just don't like how quickly Ley unvotes here when he should have been able to surmise the reasoning behind Amega's post himself.

 

I didn't see that as a vanilla softclaim... just as a statement.

 

Same here.

 

 

I don't think that joke votes are necessarily a bad thing, Amega. It's a way to get the game started - how else is a good way to start the game then to vote? It would be quite boring without that. Also, as you can see, something always happens and the game actually starts. As long as people unvote then and start playing, what's the harm in the first one being for fun?

 

Incidentally, the serious phase of the game only actually starts one the joke voting phase has ended. Personally, and I might be completely alone thinking this, I would be completely fine with games starting out with more of a joke/meta hybrid phase that launches discussion much easier. As in "Ooooooh Player X pulled off such a sneaky gambit recently I wanna see his corpse hanging in this game Vote Player X"

 

I'm thinking there might be something to Boyo's thought that maybe Amega and Nol are connected somehow. Amega says Boyo jumped out and attacked the first person to try and initiate game play...when he voted Amega...and Amega didn't do anything to initiate game play except attack the idea of joke votes. I hadn't seen any effort to try and scumhunt from Amega, or any thoughts on the game thus far. I think Boyo's vote, and Nol's reaction to it, were what actually got the game rolling.

 

Only real reason I quoted this post was because I liked seeing Amega's name cascading down the paragraph (although it prob won't have the same effect now that it's shrunken down into a quote box )

 

This isn't true, I agree with Meesh and key. Joke votes get the game started and can lead to more if they are left unhindered, that's how games normally go. I know, I've played a lot of mafia. Also declaring that joke votes are over and then telling people to stop being funny is highly ridiculous. Stop trying to take the fun out of the game. Also to declare you aren't going to joke vote because it doesn't advance the game, but then not do anything about it is silly.

 

Bolded part mine. First of all, Amega didn't try to tell people to stop being funny. That was Ley. I would normally toss a soft FOS at you for skimming, but considering the fact that Leyrann color's his text it seems a lot more like you REALLY want to push Amega's lynch, and trying to build a case just to support that lynch.

 

people find fun in different things [see: Timmy, Johnny, and Spike]

 

I didn't know you played magic Nolder!!! Why do I get the feeling that we would really get along irl?

 

I'm TOTES MUHGOTES a Johnny btw, my favorite decks are infinite combo decks and mill decks Although I am pretty competitive, and my decks usually pwn, so maybe a 60/40 Johnny/Spike split.

 

Okay back to the game. Song and Meesh are pinging to me somewhat, but for now Soy is pinging hardest. Unvote, Vote Soy

 

So correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pinging because A) I'm willing to to move my vote around with out hesitation if I find something fishier (there by avoivding the tunnel vision. BTW how would I get tunnel vision if I'm willing to move my vote without hesitation? people with tunnel vision aren't). B) because I pointed out the absurdity of hoof's post. (by the way the person that hoof was agreeing with, Nol, agreed with my statement.)

 

Guess I can't say much... my reason for voting amega is about as valid as that.

 

(BTW I never OMGUS, I WIDDIFTPHU which is, Why I Do Declare I Find That Person Highly Unfavorable.)

[hazelkrs1]

Well allow me to correct you, Mr. Soy!

 

You're pinging to me because

 

A. You seem to willing to lynch ANYONE

B. You seem overly defensive

C. The weird "vanilla town" thing

 

You can state a willingness to change your vote all you want, that doesn't really mean anything though unless you actually show true impartiality (did I just make up a word? ). And I don't see how you can state that Hoof's post was absurd, he drew a conclusion based upon the back and forth between you and Nolder, and voted. You can FOS him for it, but he still wasn't making any wild leaps of faith in logic or anything. It seems like you were pinging to him, and he voted you. Nol exhibited healthy paranoia by not just accepting Hoof's post on face value, as someone else mentioned he like "shaking trees" so he's going to be willing to call anyone on ANYTHING they post that might be considered iffy.

 

You should try OMGUS'ing, it's quite fun and easier to type than WIDDIFTPHU

[ed2funy]

so pretty much you have no logical reason for joke votes other than its fun and that their convient instead of having to immediatly start scum hunting.

 

It's pretty stupid to say you shouldn't have ANY joke votes and begin scum hunting immediately.

Let's look at an example below.

 

A: Hey everyone. First poster. Yay me.

 

B: Vote A. Because you take pride in posting first. Obviously you are scum and are excited about your role.

 

C: Oh my god, B is mafia. Look how aggressive they are voting already! D:

 

 

A: I think B was just confused. I am excited because Ama is running this game, and I love her.

C, on the other hand, seems to be looking for a good excuse to vote!

 

 

Can you imagine EVERY game starting like that? Where it immediately, "omg, that vote is scummy!"?

Joke votes help start the game because they get people posting. Someone will gather 2 or more votes, and then people start over analyzing why and connections, and the game begins.

 

 

 

That is all on that part. I think it's stupid to hold your stance, Amega.

 

I think its stupid to try and push you on opinion on to other people ed. But im glad you have decided to actually join in the conversation. First off i dont believe i ever said that we should all do away with joke votes and do this proposal of yours. I was merely defending my opinion. Before you try and twist my words and reasonings get your facts straight :)

 

Vote ED:

 

 

 

Oh, you bolded it. I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise.

 

If you want me to push, Amega, you just have to scream. Call me "Big Papa," perhaps.

 

You see, though, my "proposal" was merely to show you how your opinion of joke votes would lead to games being run. Read it again. Even as the "proposal" stands, it is slightly jokey. But, I am going to guess you didn't see that.

 

 

Now, let's look at your comments on joke votes:

 

hehe! A few comments. I dont believe that it has anything to do with the deadline being determined by activity. If everyone is joking around and afraid to get the game going scum will have no problem. Getting in there and delaying it as long as possible...ex. soy.Then the modgodess will eventually set a 12 hour deadline and we will scramble for a lynch. Also i don't care what the game is i think joke votes are a waste.. so i usually decline. Also by saying this it has stimulated some interesting conversation and day one has began... I agree with nolder on most things...soy's case was extremely weak...maybe that's his play style but immediately jumping out and attacking the first person to try and initiate game play is a bit suspect. Im not positive but will keep my eye open. Also the blackhoof vote did seem a bit early...

 

"are a waste" - Implies they are useless.

I don't think that joke votes are necessarily a bad thing, Amega. It's a way to get the game started - how else is a good way to start the game then to vote? It would be quite boring without that. Also, as you can see, something always happens and the game actually starts. As long as people unvote then and start playing, what's the harm in the first one being for fun?

because they dont get started...eventually one person does something to start it like me and nolder just did, but i have seen day one drag on and then activity levels go to nothing cause every one's bored of it...and ive already said that its a great way to delay day one. skimming much??Also how exactly do joke votes get the game started, beside actual conversationl, they provide no info and leave the guess the same until real investigation begins.

 

Your reply to Holdy (*investigates any relation to Noldy* Hmmm XD) here bears as quite a strong stance against joke voting as I do to making it useful.

Joke votes provide info through voting patterns set early on (scum like to place votes in place as a "joke," too). Who takes that final step and puts the infamous "third vote" on someone? Who lambastes them for it and tries to lynch that person in turn? Is there a connection? What's going on here?

 

Oh, but ignore the questions, because we shouldn't even be joke voting. They mean nothing to the game anyways. They are....oh, how can I put it....

Here, I'll just quote you:

uh....meta here....but i have recently thought joke votes irrelevant and a great tactic for scum to delay the beginning of day one. I just felt the need to say these thoughts again. I dont want anyone to think im trying to fly under the radar.

 

Not sure if you noticed, but the post about joke votes was separate, because I felt it didn't really have bearing on this game. I am gonna lightly FoS you, Amega, because to me, it feels like you are trying to make it an issue.

I think more info can be garnered from the likes of Pandy and Boyo's votes on you. From the events that sprung up around those votes. And so on and so on.

Now, going back to my movie watching. Maybe I'll actually come back to the conversation when I won't just be repeating what others have said.

Also, if you could try posting during the hours of 1800 - 2100 GMT +9 during the week, that would be great.

Des......I've seen longer. heheBut still -.-

I did read your post, though.

[ed2funy]

Des, question...

 

 

At this point, would you not be willing to lynch anyone?

 

I have no qualms voting and supporting a lynch for anyone...who pops up scummy. At this point, I don't see a candidate, so I don't wanna push for a lynch, but why shouldn't I be willing to lynch anyone?

 

I don't get your reasoning on that part.

[Amadine]

Vote Count:

Ed (2) - Arlow, Amega

 

Leelou (1) - Nolder

Des (1) - Leelou

 

Ley (1) - Maw

Song (1) - Nyn

Levity (1) - Corrosive

 

Arlow (1) - Key

 

Amega (4) - Pandy, Soyo, Meesh, Spirit

Meesh (1) - Ed

Soyo (3) - Hoof, Womby, Des

Pandy (1) - Verb

24 players = 13 to lynch

[SBoydW]

Well allow me to correct you, Mr. Soy!

 

You're pinging to me because

 

A. You seem to willing to lynch ANYONE

B. You seem overly defensive

C. The weird "vanilla town" thing

 

You can state a willingness to change your vote all you want, that doesn't really mean anything though unless you actually show true impartiality (did I just make up a word? ). And I don't see how you can state that Hoof's post was absurd, he drew a conclusion based upon the back and forth between you and Nolder, and voted. You can FOS him for it, but he still wasn't making any wild leaps of faith in logic or anything. It seems like you were pinging to him, and he voted you. Nol exhibited healthy paranoia by not just accepting Hoof's post on face value, as someone else mentioned he like "shaking trees" so he's going to be willing to call anyone on ANYTHING they post that might be considered iffy.

 

You should try OMGUS'ing, it's quite fun and easier to type than WIDDIFTPHU

 

If you had read closer you would have seen that hoof agreed with nolder's analysis of my SECOND post of the game, which did everything except outright call me scum. To that point there had been no back and forth (well okay one "forth").

 

And the whole defensive thing is being mistaken for my need to argue and correct everyone on the points I feel they messed up on, and well because ya know people accusing me and junk, I get the feeling that if I just ignored all the points being made about me people would call me scum for that too. So I'm kinda in a damned if I do damned if don't spot there.

 

As to the whole vanilla town reference *shrug* I didn't mean anything by it, so I'll just let people read that how they want. I don't have any other way to explain that.

[Nolder]

caught up

have nothing to say really

I have no interest in this Amega thing

my beef was with Soy based on his reasoning (I said as much in my posts to him did I not?)

Amega doesn't strike me as anything one way or another

 

This post seems way too neutral.

kind of the point

I don't want to be dragged into this whole argument over Amega

I've said what I had to say and have no more interest in it

tried making it clear to all

 

people find fun in different things [see: Timmy, Johnny, and Spike]

 

I didn't know you played magic Nolder!!! Why do I get the feeling that we would really get along irl? [

 

I'm TOTES MUHGOTES a Johnny btw, my favorite decks are infinite combo decks and mill decks Although I am pretty competitive, and my decks usually pwn, so maybe a 60/40 Johnny/Spike split.

I haven't played MTG in years

I sold all my cards in high school but even before that I only played once in a blue moon with a friend

despite that I LOVE TCGs

the forum I learned to play mafia on was for a free online TCG called Cardmaster Conflict (known as CMC) that's something like the bastard child of MTG and YGO

 

as for my style

I analyzed myself awhile back but I forget which category I fall under

I think I mostly go for "unique" and "theme" decks which iirc is Timmy

my decks are often silly and not very practical or good but they will usually have a message

an example of this might be my Cruise Control For Cool deck

the only cards used in it were cards that had all capslock names haha

it was pretty bad but I like using stupid stuff like that

[Sakaea]

Yay, more MTG players! LOL, <3 you guys. I love Green aggro right now. I also have White lifelink deck that is amazing.

 

/spam

 

@ Des: Maybe the next game I mod will be like that. No D1 lynch, just discussion, then random kill and carry on. *ponders*

[amegakure]

Im going to decline on calling you "Big Pappa" I believe that would be disrespectful to Biggie. Im not making it an issue i was merely defending my stance and when spirit voted me for it. Then boyo and others attacked. Im willing to argue for my opinions all day if i need to though. Continuously painting me as a villain though for defending my opinion instead of letting people spit on them is pretty low. Also im not sure what time frame that is but im assuming its when i sleeeep! But im good on this argument now...i will agree with you that scumhunt could be actually done in other places!

[Amadine]

FYI Song has asked to be replaced, i am working on that now.

[hazelkrs1]

Des......I've seen longer. hehe

 

 

Liar! Let's policy lynch Ed for spreading personal lies about me

 

Des, question...

 

 

At this point, would you not be willing to lynch anyone?

 

I have no qualms voting and supporting a lynch for anyone...who pops up scummy. At this point, I don't see a candidate, so I don't wanna push for a lynch, but why shouldn't I be willing to lynch anyone?

 

I don't get your reasoning on that part.

 

I don't think we should be willing to lynch ANYONE. We should be willing to lynch someone if everyone is in general agreement that someone seems scummy. If we have no one that really looks scummy, I'm one of the biggest proponents of a No Lynch vote on Day 1. Let's NOT get into that discussion though, after all I think we do have a couple of good candidates for lynches this day 1 already. I just don't like the attitude that we HAVE to lynch someone even if we really don't have any good candidates, and I don't like those that push that concept forward by saying they're willing to lynch ANYONE

 

Yay, more MTG players! LOL, <3 you guys. I love Green aggro right now. I also have White lifelink deck that is amazing.

 

/spam

 

@ Des: Maybe the next game I mod will be like that. No D1 lynch, just discussion, then random kill and carry on. *ponders*

 

I'd play in it

 

Also, lifelink decks are bleh to play against, feels like you're playing 3 games in one because you have to do so much damage