Wheel of Time Mafia Game Thread

[Moon Sedai]

Okay, I'm trying to determine who currently has the double vote item. I do not know if this would prove scummyness or not, but it couldn't hurt for a larger case.

Let's look at the final count against Nae a few days ago:

 

Day 9 Final Vote Count:

 

Nae (10): Nyn, Drew, Ahmoondah, Mynd, Nae, Talya, Alanna, MCS, BG

Nyn (1): Killuliu

Posted 05 April 2011 - 11:37 AM Vote Count:

 

Nae (9): Nyn, Drew, Ahmoondah, Mynd, Nae, Talya, Alanna, MCS

Nyn (1): Killuliu

 

Deadline: Wednesday, 11:00 AM ET. 10 to lynch.

compared to today's vote.

 

Vote Count:

 

MCS (7): Talya, Drew, Nyn, Player, BG, Killuliu, Ahmoondah

Player (2): Song, MCS

 

You have until Tuesday at 11 AM to lynch someone. With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

 

The suspects of who has the double vote are as follows:

Nyn, Drew, Ahmoondah, Mynd, Nae, Talya, Alanna, MCS, BG

9 players, 10 votes.

Because the addition of BG's vote didn't add a 2nd vote, it was already there, i eliminate him.

Nae I eliminate because she had been quiet and we were having double votes.

Tayla, Drew, Nyn, and myself I eliminate because we were an earlier vote vs. MCS and there were 7 votes/7 people.

MCS I eliminate because in vote vs Play3r, 2 votes/2 people.

 

This means either Mynd or Alanna have the double vote item.

Care to explain, or shall I case further?

[csarmi]

What is the last time we KNEW who had the double-voting item? It was in some confirmed townie's hands, wasn't it? I'm really not sure, I only did one read-through (like 1 week ago, before I joined the game), so that's a vague impression only.

Is it a good idea to figure out who has it? If that finds us a possible scum, it's very good, but what if it's in townie hands? I mean, would we want the maffia know whom to steal it from? With fewer and fewer people left it's importance is starting to grow.

[csarmi]

Could Nae have the 2xvote item?

What happens when someone dies with an item? Needs message WWWWombat to loot the body and that goes on a first come, first serve basis?

 

Moon, are we absolutely sure Nae didn't have it? Do we have a vote-count proving so?

[mcs0083]

I would assume that the items would be removed from play.

[WWWwombat]

If someone dies with an item, anyone can search the body to find it.

[Alanna]

Well, I don't have it the double vote. I haven't tried thieving anything since very early on in the game. I'm not able to get on here often enough for it to be worth it.

[Moon Sedai]

Okay, here's the vote Vs. Krak 2.0 Elaida

Day 8 Final Vote count:

 

Krak (11): Moon, Verbal, Drew, Play3r, Mynd, Talya, Song, BG, Alanna, Quibby

Mynd (1): Krak

 

Kwom (2): Killuliu, AJ

 

11 to lynch. Deadline: Tomorrow, 11 AM ET

10 Vs Krak, 11 votes.

Moon, Verbal, Drew, Play3r, Mynd, Talya, Song, BG, Alanna, Quibby

Using same logic as in my earlier post, my suspect of double voting looks like this:

 

Moon, Verbal, Drew, Play3r, Mynd, Talya, Song, BG, Alanna, Quibby

 

Song I can eliminate because in today's vote, Song has cast vs. Play3r, as a single vote.

Play3r I eliminate because in today's vote vs. MCS, player is one of 7 people in 7 votes.

 

Vote Count:

MCS (7): Talya, Drew, Nyn, Player, BG, Killuliu, Ahmoondah

Player (2): Song, MCS

 

You have until Tuesday at 11 AM to lynch someone. With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

 

 

Now, this looks like Verbal, Mynd, Alanna, Quibby have the double voter.

Verbal was not in the vote vs. Nae, and neither was Quibby.

 

If alanna is not lying, and she does not have the DV, then I suspect Mynd has it.

True, it could be gifted, or could be stolen. I just find it odd that Mynd is active in several DV posts.

 

today's silence alarms me, Mynd.

 

[csarmi]

Okay, so either Alanna is lying (and why should she?), or Mynd has the 2xvote item.

I think we have hit a dead-end here. Obviously, we will not lynch Mynd just because he's being silent now, and as it's very likely that he has been silenced, he won't contribute to the conversation.

 

So I think we should be moving on, no?

[Talya]

I agree, I maybe suspicious of Mynd, but I'm not going to run a lynch on him without him here. The thing to remember is that whoever does have the double vote, voted on a Mafia player in Nae. Unless Nai laid down and took the bullet for the team so to speak, then if the double voter is mafia they would put it on there.

[Quibby]

First off, sorry about not checking in. I went home this weekend, and I forgot to warn everybody that I wasn't going to be around.

 

Secondly, I do not have the double-voting item. I've already revealed every item that I have, and I have not stolen anything.

 

Thirdly, vote MCS. He always seems to show up very shortly after somebody in the thread comments on his scarcity, and the second post he made after his return was to lambast Nyn for speaking up and voting for the only other 'N' in the game. He called it scummy. I felt it was a common-sense action for her to take, so there was nothing scummy about it.

 

Fourth and finally, I'm pretty sure that Drew is either Asmodean or Ingtar, based on his Miller reveal.

[Quibby]

Oh, yeah, and I disappear from Thursday to Monday for JordanCon.

[mcs0083]

[quote name=Quibby' timestamp='1302477823' post='1808541'

Thirdly, vote MCS. He always seems to show up very shortly after somebody in the thread comments on his scarcity, and the second post he made after his return was to lambast Nyn for speaking up and voting for the only other 'N' in the game. He called it scummy. I felt it was a common-sense action for her to take, so there was nothing scummy about it.

 

Um, I've been QUITE active the past few phases sir. More so than you I'd say. And Ive definitely addressed and conversed with many people, not just ones I think are scummy. Like right now. I don't think you're scummy. Just misguided.

[mcs0083]

Ok I screwed up there XD I think its easy to see that I was quoting Quibby, but yeah, that's what I was doing just for clarification.

[Quibby]

Um, I've been QUITE active the past few phases sir. More so than you I'd say. And Ive definitely addressed and conversed with many people, not just ones I think are scummy. Like right now. I don't think you're scummy. Just misguided.

 

Let's discuss that, then.

 

From page 57 to page 112, we have a grand total of 14 posts. That's, what, 55 pages? Say all you want of your activity now. I was not referring to your current activity.

 

Oh, and speaking of current activity...

 

Sorry for being quiet all weekend, folks. Needed the break, and hopefully my head's clear enough not to just jump down somebody's throat for no reason.

 

For now, I'm going to go ahead and do the same as most everybody else- ignore the Mason team for the moment.

 

Oddly enough, I'm also going to ignore Kwom. Based on the Day 1 action, I don't see how he's possibly scum-aligned. The scum knew who they were going to kill, and having Kwom target Aemon and Red on Night 1 seems like it would be a wasted effort to accomplish very little. (It makes more sense to me than having a scum team so clever that they were able to predict that Song1.0 and a metric crapton of people would target one of those two on Night 1, thus creating some epic-level chaos.)

 

After the latest nightkill, I'm also forced to ignore Mynd for the time being. I was mistaken in an assumption, and based on some of the things Mynd has done in this game, I have to assume that he's not scum for the time being.

 

Drew roleclaimed as a miller, so I'll ignore him for now, too.

 

For now, I'm more concerned about our two silent ones: Virtuhall and mcs. I'm going to ignore Virtuhall for now, as the Lord Our Mod is looking into what he'll do with him. However, mcs is already in for an inactive player, and he sprouts up on occasion to say a word or two, or to cast a vote, then he disappears. That type of play style bugs me this late in the game.

 

Nine posts later...

 

Hey everyone. I'm still alive. So who is it that is left? I don't want to make any sort of assessment until I know the facts.

 

Interesting timing on this.

 

Shortly after this, Nae comes under fire, and you start posting up a storm. Why the sudden boost in activity? (By the way, yes, in the last 10 pages, you out-posted me 33-10.)

[mcs0083]

I'm not saying I wasn't inactive until the 3rd of April. I wasn't. I'm saying I've been quite active since then. So for a week lets say.

[killuliu]

I'm not saying I wasn't inactive until the 3rd of April. I wasn't. I'm saying I've been quite active since then. So for a week lets say.

 

But that rises the question: why so sudden increase (and such a big increase) in the activity? And the fact, that when you "rejoined" (you were kind of inactive, no matter what you say) the game, you clearly hadn't been following the game, as otherwise you wouldn't have needed to ask the question quibby quoted.

[bgrishinko]

I'm not saying I wasn't inactive until the 3rd of April. I wasn't. I'm saying I've been quite active since then. So for a week lets say.

 

But that rises the question: why so sudden increase (and such a big increase) in the activity? And the fact, that when you "rejoined" (you were kind of inactive, no matter what you say) the game, you clearly hadn't been following the game, as otherwise you wouldn't have needed to ask the question quibby quoted.

 

Because MCS was poked ...

[mcs0083]

I'm not saying I wasn't inactive until the 3rd of April. I wasn't. I'm saying I've been quite active since then. So for a week lets say.

 

But that rises the question: why so sudden increase (and such a big increase) in the activity? And the fact, that when you "rejoined" (you were kind of inactive, no matter what you say) the game, you clearly hadn't been following the game, as otherwise you wouldn't have needed to ask the question quibby quoted.

 

Because MCS was poked ...

 

I DID say I was inactive Kill. My inactivity has been brought up numerous times during this day phase, and seems to me to be the number one reason why I'm on the chopping block. Well, if that's the case, why am I the lucky one? Yes, I might be someone who was quite inactive until about a week ago, but you also have those who has been inactive consistently. I find it funny that Quibby voted for me mainly because of the inactivity argument against me, when I have not see him post hardly at all for the past week. Except to throw in a vote for the sake of voting. And you does he vote? Ah my big surprise! The person that has the most votes already. I'm not saying that you are scum Quibby. I am however saying that you are being bamboozled by the mafia into believing in such a silly reason to lynch me. As for others who serve to be an example, Player doesnt post very often, usually only to put his vote down. Alanna is quite scarce too. And Nyn, who I have WRONGED soooo greatly only cares to post when she is mentioned. It is almost funny how much hypocrisy is being thrown around right now. But hey, if you guys want to be the mafias little lambs, that's your prerogative I suppose. Lynching me will not produce any positive effect, and yes, anyone would say that to save themselves, but can you really blame me? And for any scum who try to turn this plea into a "scummy spiel" of some sort, don't eve try it. This is obviously the outcry of an isolated towns person, not a mafia member with known allies to back him up.

[mcs0083]

I apologize for the typos in the last post. I was distracted and typing fast at the same time. Bad combo.

[bgrishinko]

What was MCS's power and how had he used it to help the town?

[csarmi]

He what? When?

[bgrishinko]

The names I got who visited Red last night are Aust, Ed, Player, and Kwom Masbag.

 

 

He what? When?

 

 

BG remembered way back when MCS was still ed2funy that Ed had submitted a NA that was discovered, but BG could not remember hearing an explanation of what Ed's power was and how it was used.

 

Aust = Cop

Player = Limited Flavor Cop

Kwom = Bus Driver

(also Quibby = Message Sender.... same night)

Ed2funy mcs = ?

[mcs0083]

Yes I do have a power, so that statement by Song was correct. I protect my target, but also role block them. I believe the role is called jailor or something like that, and it is a town protective role.

[Nynaeve]

So you have a role that enables you to protect town at night and yet our confirmed town peeps continue to drop like flies at night. So who exactly have you been role-blocking and protecting at night? As far as I remember, there were nightkills every night except a night really early in the game where there were none. Did you even bother checking who you 'supposedly' blocked that night for us to investigate?

 

I find this claim to be completely bogus. By both blocking someone's ability and protecting him/her you should have had SOME information this far into the game to share. Which you haven't. I doubt you would even have come up with a supposed role if it wasn't for 1. You being up for a lynch and 2. BG putting you on the spot.

 

So, I'm keeping my vote where it is.

 

 

 

Nyn

[Nynaeve]

Oh, oops, did I just post without someone accusing me?

 

Shame on me :P

 

 

 

 

Nyn