The Big (Currently) Unoticed Thing In Books 4-6 (Mistborn Spoilers)

[Orderofolde]

Wow, people are so caught up in this whole slayer thing that they ran right past my post without a comment.

 

All through the books we see empty farms abandonned in Cairhein, forgotten cities of ruins in Andor (Old Manatharen), things that used to belong to vast kingdoms that no longer are there only fragments called something else, and many places humans themselves seem to be receeding in population even post-Breaking. 

 

There was specific mention of it in the earlier books, Rand following Ingtar, old Statues, Matt's memories before the Trolloc wars, Shadar Logoth, The Blight swallowing up the Seven Towers and Malkier.  If the Wheel strives for a Balance, Good vs. Evil, births and good things to balance the deaths we see especially until very recently(Not to mention all the Amayar offing themselves), ...if the Dark One's forces are growing for the Last Battle where a hundred thousand Trollocks attacking the Manor house is larger than most "Good" armies, where Under the Light are all the People?  We're not just scraping the bottom of the barrel, the barrel's been downright sold if aged farmers are turning scythes into polearms and moving almost zombie-like towards the Gathering Storm. Kind of really puts it into perspective as to this being it, the Final Battle.

 

[farthammer]

If that is a question here are some people

[mossman87]

Wow, people are so caught up in this whole slayer thing that they ran right past my post without a comment.

 

All through the books we see empty farms abandonned in Cairhein, forgotten cities of ruins in Andor (Old Manatharen), things that used to belong to vast kingdoms that no longer are there only fragments called something else, and many places humans themselves seem to be receeding in population even post-Breaking. 

 

There was specific mention of it in the earlier books, Rand following Ingtar, old Statues, Matt's memories before the Trolloc wars, Shadar Logoth, The Blight swallowing up the Seven Towers and Malkier.  If the Wheel strives for a Balance, Good vs. Evil, births and good things to balance the deaths we see especially until very recently(Not to mention all the Amayar offing themselves), ...if the Dark One's forces are growing for the Last Battle where a hundred thousand Trollocks attacking the Manor house is larger than most "Good" armies, where Under the Light are all the People?  We're not just scraping the bottom of the barrel, the barrel's been downright sold if aged farmers are turning scythes into polearms and moving almost zombie-like towards the Gathering Storm. Kind of really puts it into perspective as to this being it, the Final Battle.

 

 

The Pattern doesn't seek to balance Good and Evil, it balances the Order and Destruction of itself.  The Pattern could be in order with no humans.  If all it took were 3 humans to seal up the DO and save it from destruction of 2 million trollocs that'd be all it needed.

[JakeBarnes]

Wow, people are so caught up in this whole slayer thing that they ran right past my post without a comment.

All through the books we see empty farms abandonned in Cairhein, forgotten cities of ruins in Andor (Old Manatharen), things that used to belong to vast kingdoms that no longer are there only fragments called something else, and many places humans themselves seem to be receeding in population even post-Breaking. 

 

There was specific mention of it in the earlier books, Rand following Ingtar, old Statues, Matt's memories before the Trolloc wars, Shadar Logoth, The Blight swallowing up the Seven Towers and Malkier.  If the Wheel strives for a Balance, Good vs. Evil, births and good things to balance the deaths we see especially until very recently(Not to mention all the Amayar offing themselves), ...if the Dark One's forces are growing for the Last Battle where a hundred thousand Trollocks attacking the Manor house is larger than most "Good" armies, where Under the Light are all the People?  We're not just scraping the bottom of the barrel, the barrel's been downright sold if aged farmers are turning scythes into polearms and moving almost zombie-like towards the Gathering Storm. Kind of really puts it into perspective as to this being it, the Final Battle.

 

 

No.  In your post you reference Ingtar, Shadar Logoth, The Seven Towers, etc.  All things that entered the story in books 1.  

 

As for the last part, people are everywhere and yes, TG is coming.  

 

Neither of the points in your post reference things which began in books 4-6.

[Lironah]

Well. I've been compiling the list of the viable Big Thing ideas (it's not done yet, but hopefully soon) and I think I've decided on what I think it is. Originally I thought I wouldn't fall behind one thing or another and just wait for ToM to come out--it's such a open field that Brandon left us that I didn't think it was possible to actually wade one particular one out of the squillions--but my recent idea stands out to me [i'm slow by the way, others already caught this  ;D].

 

Besides, what fun is it if no one backs a thing? This way, when I'm wrong, you can laugh at me for being so arrogant as to think I'd figured it out.

 

So. I'm calling it. The Big Unnoticed Thing With Future Epic Importance is...

 

The Unseen Watchers of Tel’aran’rhiod

 

Hmm, a search of the forums doesn't bring up any matches for this theory, so here goes.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brandon say this big thing would become important in Towers of Midnight?  We've got two major plotlines, from the cover flap that was revealed, and those are Perrin's and Mat's.  Perrin's probably involves Whitecloaks, Dragonsworn and Slayer.  If Slayer is following Demandred's orders right now, that makes a total of two 'unseen watchers' that might be involved in his story arc.  Hardly enough to cover every possible location, even if said watchers would never act.  Mat's storyline, on the other hand, will involve the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn, about which we know next to nothing.  However, we can extrapolate from the numbers we've seen, and the theories that they populate some other world parallel to the one we follow, that they possess the numbers necessary to observe and report anything that occurs in major locations across Randland's version of the Dream world.

 

We also have Birgitte telling Perrin that the Tower of Ghenjei was even harder to leave from Tel'aran'rhiod than it was from the waking world.  Why would that be?  Because there are guards posted inside the T'a'r version of it, of course.  Guards which can warp T'a'r and keep you there, if you don't know what you're doing, making it harder than simply fighting one's way out.

 

So if the *finn can enter Randland's T'a'r, and they possess the numbers to watch everyone else who enters it, then being the information gatherers and hoarders they appear to be, it stands to reason that they would do so.  It also stands to reason that if they've been kicking around in there since before Verin (bless her Black little heart) gave Egwene Corianin's ring but not her notes, that something they have observed will become relevant during the rescue of Moiraine.

 

It also may become significant that Lanfear had visited T'a'r before her trip through the arch, and is now (as most people believe) free, whereas none of the people involved in Moiraine's rescue (including herself) have ever been there.

[Seaine Sedai]

I only read about 7 pages into this because it's been a LONG time since I have been on the forums.  But someone brought up the Tinkers and singing and I had an idea (possibly been discussed before, but maybe not)...

 

We know that the Aiel back in the AOL could sing to grow things, but they also sang for other things as well.  Such as the Aiel that all joined together and sang while a male AS was slaughtering him.  They were sacrificing themselves with their singing (the only way they could fight) and he listened for some time before killing the last of the singing Aiel.  It was an act of bravery committed before the AS that were left sent the Aiel out on their way with the chora saplings and the T'A.

Tinker singing is brought up a lot in the books, and the song is mentioned a lot...but the fact that the Aiel were singers back in the AOL didn't come up until around book 4 or 5.  Elayne and Avi have found a T'A that needs a particular song to do its magic (probably a seed-growing T'A activated by singing) recently, and the BOwl of the Winds probably used singing as part of its weather control too, considering back in the AOL there were a LOT of T'A that did what the BotW did.

 

 

I realize however that singing has been mentioned since the prologue of the first book.  Lews Therin asking Elan if he had the Voice, Perrin and Egwene meeting the Mahdi if their first Tinker encounter who formally asked if they knew the song, etc.  But I don't think any of this began to really make sense about WHAT they were talking about until around books 4-6, and as many people have pointed out, there's a lot of loose ends with the Tinkers.  They must have a part to play in this like everyone else, but they have sworn off violence so what part could that possibly be?  Could it be any of them have singers still like the Ogier do? (ie Loial)  Could it be that their part to play will be rediscovering some vocal talents that will help the forces of the Light along, like they did in the AOL?

[Shazzai]

We know that the Aiel back in the AOL could sing to grow things, but they also sang for other things as well.  Such as the Aiel that all joined together and sang while a male AS was slaughtering him.  They were sacrificing themselves with their singing (the only way they could fight) and he listened for some time before killing the last of the singing Aiel.  It was an act of bravery committed before the AS that were left sent the Aiel out on their way with the chora saplings and the T'A.

Tinker singing is brought up a lot in the books, and the song is mentioned a lot...but the fact that the Aiel were singers back in the AOL didn't come up until around book 4 or 5.  Elayne and Avi have found a T'A that needs a particular song to do its magic (probably a seed-growing T'A activated by singing) recently, and the BOwl of the Winds probably used singing as part of its weather control too, considering back in the AOL there were a LOT of T'A that did what the BotW did.

 

I got the feeling that the "...T'A that needs a particular song..." was one of the Talisman of Growing's.  The thing the Ogier use to make a new entrance to the Ways.

[Luckers]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brandon say this big thing would become important in Towers of Midnight?  We've got two major plotlines, from the cover flap that was revealed, and those are Perrin's and Mat's.  Perrin's probably involves Whitecloaks, Dragonsworn and Slayer.  If Slayer is following Demandred's orders right now, that makes a total of two 'unseen watchers' that might be involved in his story arc.  Hardly enough to cover every possible location, even if said watchers would never act.  Mat's storyline, on the other hand, will involve the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn, about which we know next to nothing.  However, we can extrapolate from the numbers we've seen, and the theories that they populate some other world parallel to the one we follow, that they possess the numbers necessary to observe and report anything that occurs in major locations across Randland's version of the Dream world.

 

We also have Birgitte telling Perrin that the Tower of Ghenjei was even harder to leave from Tel'aran'rhiod than it was from the waking world.  Why would that be?  Because there are guards posted inside the T'a'r version of it, of course.  Guards which can warp T'a'r and keep you there, if you don't know what you're doing, making it harder than simply fighting one's way out.

 

So if the *finn can enter Randland's T'a'r, and they possess the numbers to watch everyone else who enters it, then being the information gatherers and hoarders they appear to be, it stands to reason that they would do so.  It also stands to reason that if they've been kicking around in there since before Verin (bless her Black little heart) gave Egwene Corianin's ring but not her notes, that something they have observed will become relevant during the rescue of Moiraine.

 

It also may become significant that Lanfear had visited T'a'r before her trip through the arch, and is now (as most people believe) free, whereas none of the people involved in Moiraine's rescue (including herself) have ever been there.

 

I'd be willing to go for this, but we have the cover jacket for ToM which reads...

 

Perrin Aybara is now hunted by specters from his past: Whitecloaks, a slayer of wolves, and the responsibilities of leadership. All the while, an unseen foe is slowly pulling a noose tight around his neck. To prevail, he must seek answers in Tel’aran’rhiod and find a way–at long last–to master the wolf within him or lose himself to it forever.

 

An unseen foe (which is not Slayer) the answers to which Perrin must seek in TAR--pretty suggestive.

[CUBAREY]

However, we can extrapolate from the numbers we've seen, and the theories that they populate some other world parallel to the one we follow, that they possess the numbers necessary to observe and report anything that occurs in major locations across Randland's version of the Dream world.

 

 

Even supposing that The snake and foxes have abundent dream walkers to populate the major areas of Randland's version of the Dream world how much information could they possibly possess. They might run across a few Aiel Dream Walekrs and a few Chosen and spy on them but exactly how much informtion would they get from these sporaqdic encounters?

[Sharaman]

 

WinespringBrother: Are they related to Tel'aran'rhiod or do they control Tel'aran'rhiod?

Jordan: No.

Also Finnland itself is outside TAR

 

How one extrapolate that the Finns wander around TAR randomly in large numbers the face of this contrary evidence?

 

 

[Giganos]

Does the ability to ignore heat and cold actually have something to do with being able to wield the power?

 

Does this have some hidden implication about the Aiel that we've not seen before.

 

Aes Sedai are taught how to ignore heat and cold upon gaining the shawl.

 

It is described as being similar to preparing ones self for embracing the source.

 

Taim teaches Rand and all the Ashamen how to ignore heat and cold, presumably he learnt it from a forsaken.

 

We are told by various Aes Sedai and Ashamen that in their opinion it has nothing to do with the one power.

 

Aes Sedai only teach it to Aes Sedai - no problems there, no proof otherwise.

 

Ashamen try to teach it to their wives and loved ones but they fear it being something to do with the power and do not learn it - still no proof otherwise.

 

The Aiel seem to do something similar in ignoring heat and cold but they are raised in a very harsh land, both hot and cold by turns - still no proof against

 

Book 7 Sevanna mentions that some of her people showed their dishonour by sweating, even though the land was nowhere near as hot as the waste - still not quite proof of something amiss.

 

But it's mentioned time and again how Aes Sedai and Ashamen can ignore heat and cold and that Aiel can ignore heat and cold.

 

Could the Ashamen and Aes Sedai be mistaken about this ability having nothing to do with the power?

 

Does this mean something about the innate channeling ability in the Aiel People and the Travelling people?

 

Could it be something to do with "The Song" ? and why the Aiel don't sing and the Travelling people search for "The Song"? (having "The Voice" as described by the Green Man)

 

I think I'm on a wild goose chase with this one but I still have this nagging voice in my head saying "hey, over here, something is not quite right"

 

Perhaps the Aiel are pivotal in their ability to make things grow as in the age of legends (having more people with The Voice talent) and with the help of the Ogier and once the song is rediscovered they will form the teams that green the world to recover from the depredations of The Dark One after the last battle ...... or something

[Ashaman Kovan]

Does the ability to ignore heat and cold actually have something to do with being able to wield the power?

 

AFAIK Channelers just claim it doesn't and non Channelers claim it does. But IMO it just has to do with the level of concentration needed to wield either side of The Power. I don't think we really know for sure unless we decide to take characters who've said it doesn't at their word. Or vice versa.

[Dreamwalker]

Does the ability to ignore heat and cold actually have something to do with being able to wield the power?

 

AFAIK Channelers just claim it doesn't and non Channelers claim it does. But IMO it just has to do with the level of concentration needed to wield either side of The Power. I don't think we really know for sure unless we decide to take characters who've said it doesn't at their word. Or vice versa.

 

I think maybe it doesn't work for non-channelers. Min said she'd tried and tried (she's been told how by the girls and by Rand) and never had it work, and if you'll remember she (and Birgitte) are also unable to mask their bonds in A Lily in Winter whereas Aviendha can just by thinking about it - another mental trick. I think maybe it's all related - the channelers think that since they do it just by thinking or concentrating that it must have nothing to do with the power, but maybe it requires a region of the brain related to channeling so it actually is limited to only channelers.

 

I like this maybe being the unnoticed thing just because it would fit as far as being frequently mentioned in passing, but I don't really see what the huge implication for the future books could be.

[Sharaman]

Well, we've seen channelers sweat when pushed - Joline, Galina.

But have we seen Suian / Leane/ Setalle maintain their cool while stilled?

That would be useful since it would suggest that it is not power-related

The Aiel thing is more likely a function of climatic adaption and being very fit

You get quite used to diurnal temperature swings of 40 degrees if you live in the desert.

 

[yoniy0]

Siuan was still able to make it work after she was Stilled ("most of the time", as she put it). That isn't conclusive either way, since she was also able to feel someone through an a'dam (albeit she wasn't able to affect their feelings), something non-channelers are unable to do.

[Cirin]

I would be super, super surprised if the ability to ignore how hot or cold it was had anything to do with the Big Unnoticed Thing... it sounds more like a meditative philosophy to me, about the mind overcoming the body.  Think like the yoga masters or monks that can put there body into a state of semi-hibernation (in the real world, not only books).

 

Besides, even if it is something attached to the power... I just can't think of any plausible implication that could be considered "big."

[Treemaster]

I have an idea, which I don't believe I've seen discussed before, but which I could very easily have missed.  The theory is that the waygates have not been destroyed and that the Dark One's forces still have full access to them.

 

In The Shadow Rising, after Loial returns form destroying the waygate at Manetheren, he states something to the effect that an Aes Sedai might still ge able to get through the waygate by using the One Power.  (I don't have my books with me, so I cannot provide an exact quote or reference).  This could mean that the waygates are not really destroyed, and then anyone able to channel (such as the Forsaken) can still acecss them. I don't believe the destruction of waygates is mentioned before Book 4.

 

I don't recall the destruction of the waygates being mentioned in Book 5.  In Book 6, however, Rand sends Ogier off to destroy other waygates.  I don't recall if the waygate-destruction is discussed much beyond Box 6 as my memory of books 7-11 is very hazy.

 

However, if the good guys believe that the waygates have been destroyed when in fact they are still very much acessible there could be dire consequences.  It would mean that trollocs and myrdraal can still be transported by the waygates.  Which in turn means that they could appear anywhere and cause death and destruction anywhere.  Tarmon Gai'Don might not start in the Blight after all.

[farthammer]

Well the black wind appears to limit everyone save Fain from using them.  The trollocs could still risk it in limited numbers but there's only so many you can send through at a time until it approaches certain suicide.

[bobothebarbarian]

Something odd popped into my head slightly off topic.  Could Laras be Messana?  Your average cook knowing a Black Sister (Verin) and having a hidey-hole and the right poison...?  Something going on with her, can't remember what book, but Min suffering through hair, dresses, and makeup in the earlier books noted that the woman talked of being a beauty, and odd things about how the cook could move and ruled with that spoon as if it were a scepter.  Do we have actual quote that Messana is an Aes sedai?

 

Been discussed to death in the Mesaana threads.

Answer is "no"

1) Laras has been there in the WT since New Spring. She was very pretty before she put on weight

2) She's known to everyone and in constant sight of large numbers of people (cooks, maids, servants, novices, AS) through most of the day

3) She's fat and always wears white cotton shifts in the kitchen. When Alviarin summons Mesaana ,who arrives instantly during lunch-hour, Mesaana is dressed in bronze green silk.

4) Alviarin finds Mesaana looking vaguely familiar when Shaidar strips her. This strongly suggests M is disguised as somebody who looks like her

5) Graendal seems to know who exactly Mesaana is

5) Brandon's statement "there is a way to beat the Oath Rod" about Mesaana doesn't make sense if Mesaana isn't AS, since only the AS have to swear.

 

 

on April 14, in the thread http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,52687.msg1611035.html#msg1611035 i wrote I confess that I did not read all 39 pages of this thread also and i agree in part but i think she is hiding as Laras!! think about it she would have a position of control and freedom to go as she wanted. think about how Lanfear was in the waste she jumped around and no one ever saw any thing out of place even though she moved remarkably fast for a woman of her size. the thing that made me start to think something was off with Laras was the way she would stare at Egwene in the Kitchens but never spoke to her. Plus the ability to off any AS with a lil bit of poison would be a nice perk also.  ;D

just to clarify i don't think she has been Laras that long she just killed her and is hiding as her now

[bobothebarbarian]

I have an idea, which I don't believe I've seen discussed before, but which I could very easily have missed.  The theory is that the waygates have not been destroyed and that the Dark One's forces still have full access to them.

 

In The Shadow Rising, after Loial returns form destroying the waygate at Manetheren, he states something to the effect that an Aes Sedai might still ge able to get through the waygate by using the One Power.  (I don't have my books with me, so I cannot provide an exact quote or reference).  This could mean that the waygates are not really destroyed, and then anyone able to channel (such as the Forsaken) can still acecss them. I don't believe the destruction of waygates is mentioned before Book 4.

 

I don't recall the destruction of the waygates being mentioned in Book 5.  In Book 6, however, Rand sends Ogier off to destroy other waygates.  I don't recall if the waygate-destruction is discussed much beyond Box 6 as my memory of books 7-11 is very hazy.

 

However, if the good guys believe that the waygates have been destroyed when in fact they are still very much acessible there could be dire consequences.  It would mean that trollocs and myrdraal can still be transported by the waygates.  Which in turn means that they could appear anywhere and cause death and destruction anywhere.  Tarmon Gai'Don might not start in the Blight after all.

In Book 1 EotW Chapter 45

What Follows in Shadow

Moiraine raised her staff and flame lanced from the end of it. It was not the pure, white flame that Rand remembered from Emond's Field, and the battle before Shadar Logoth. Sickly yellow streaked through the fire, and slow-drifting flecks of black, like soot. A thin, acrid smoke drifted from the flame, setting Loial coughing and the horses dancing nervously, but Moiraine thrust it at the gates. The smoke rasped Rand's throat and burned his nose.

Stone melted like butter, leaf and vine withering in the flame and vanishing. The Aes Sedai moved the fire as fast as she could, but cutting an opening big enough for everyone to get through was no quick task. To Rand, it seemed as if the line of melted stone crept along its arc at a snail's pace. His cloak stirred, as if caught by the edge of a breeze, and his heart froze.

"I can feel it," Mat said, his voice quavering. "Light, I can bloody feel it!"

The flame winked out, and Moiraine lowered her staff. "Done," she said. "Half done."

A thin line ran across the stone carving. Rand thought he could see light-dim, but still light-through the crack. But despite the cutting, the two big, curved wedges of stone still stood there, half an arc out of each door. The opening would be big enough for everyone to ride through, though Loial might have to lie flat on his horse's back. Once the two wedges of stone were gone, it would be big enough. He wondered how much each weighed. A thousand pounds? More? Maybe if we all get down and push. Maybe we can push one of them over before the wind gets here. A gust tugged at his cloak. He tried not to listen to what the voices cried.

that is what the mean by destroying them just need to cut it open all the waygates can still be used but we know rand has warded some in the past that any shadowspawn that went in one would die soon after

[Luckers]

On the hot and cold thing, I theorise that it has to do with the part of the soul that connects to One Power.

 

Consider, we know a channelers soul can extend itself to touch the Source. This ethric arm is what is sliced when a person is stilled. Dreamwalkers souls go further, with their souls leaving their body entirely (which we know from Perrin in Winter's Heart), but my point is merely that the ability itself involves your soul exceeding your body.

 

My theory is that it is this ability to extend your soul beyond your physical body is what allows the ignoring of heat and cold. The breathing exercises relax you (in a way very similar to a dreamwalker putting herself to sleep) and this draws your soul into stepping back a little from your body, thus making you not as aware of hot and cold.

 

I imagine it is also this part of the soul that channelers wrap around the bond to mask it.

 

think about how Lanfear was in the waste she jumped around and no one ever saw any thing out of place even though she moved remarkably fast for a woman of her size

 

Lanfear seemingly had a Talent for Mirror of Mists. Mesaana does not, we see her illusions fail.

 

Mesaana is not Laras. Graendal states Mesaana is disguised as an Aes Sedai.

[bobothebarbarian]

Does the ability to ignore heat and cold actually have something to do with being able to wield the power?

 

AFAIK Channelers just claim it doesn't and non Channelers claim it does. But IMO it just has to do with the level of concentration needed to wield either side of The Power. I don't think we really know for sure unless we decide to take characters who've said it doesn't at their word. Or vice versa.

 

I think maybe it doesn't work for non-channelers. Min said she'd tried and tried (she's been told how by the girls and by Rand) and never had it work, and if you'll remember she (and Birgitte) are also unable to mask their bonds in A Lily in Winter whereas Aviendha can just by thinking about it - another mental trick. I think maybe it's all related - the channelers think that since they do it just by thinking or concentrating that it must have nothing to do with the power, but maybe it requires a region of the brain related to channeling so it actually is limited to only channelers.

 

I like this maybe being the unnoticed thing just because it would fit as far as being frequently mentioned in passing, but I don't really see what the huge implication for the future books could be.

well Elyas has been masking his bond for years and years so..

[bobothebarbarian]

On the hot and cold thing, I theorise that it has to do with the part of the soul that connects to One Power.

 

Consider, we know a channelers soul can extend itself to touch the Source. This ethric arm is what is sliced when a person is stilled. Dreamwalkers souls go further, with their souls leaving their body entirely (which we know from Perrin in Winter's Heart), but my point is merely that the ability itself involves your soul exceeding your body.

 

My theory is that it is this ability to extend your soul beyond your physical body is what allows the ignoring of heat and cold. The breathing exercises relax you (in a way very similar to a dreamwalker putting herself to sleep) and this draws your soul into stepping back a little from your body, thus making you not as aware of hot and cold.

 

I imagine it is also this part of the soul that channelers wrap around the bond to mask it.

 

think about how Lanfear was in the waste she jumped around and no one ever saw any thing out of place even though she moved remarkably fast for a woman of her size

 

Lanfear seemingly had a Talent for Mirror of Mists. Mesaana does not, we see her illusions fail.

 

Mesaana is not Laras. Graendal states Mesaana is disguised as an Aes Sedai.

yes but when we se we see her illusions fail i think it was  on purpose or she was using the  Mirror of Mists of flame over her  Mirror of Mists of a person in silks and there was a little bit of bleed through

[Luckers]

well Elyas has been masking his bond for years and years so..

 

Look again. Elyas says Rina's been masking it for years, not that he has. I made that mistake too.

 

Also Bob if you think of something else to say modify your original post, don't double post. It's not a huge issue, it just messes with forum statistics.

[bobothebarbarian]

ok now my idea for the Unnoticed Thing

 

i cant find what book it was in but it is said that in ages past people did not even know about the one power. so from that we know that at some point the ability has to be forgotten somehow. So what i was thinking is that in some way the power will be used up or lost. this  would kind of go along with the great Luckers Bodyswap Theory if you take in to all the many times we read things like this

There was a joy in holding the Power, a joy in working saidar, that she could not have put into words. To contain saidar, to be contained by it, was to seem alive beyond any other time.

and could also be how Logain gains power if all chanelers all at once lose the ability to use the one power it would be madness but if someone that had experienced that before could create some kind of order.

 

now i hope that is not what happens (bad dragons of summer flame flash back) but still could be the Unnoticed Thing. could just be that BS was surprised people hadn't been talking about it :o