Perrin and Faile's Plotline (spoilers for the entire book)

[Bellanoire]

I really hope egwenes pov arc isn't anywhere complete, i need that gwain story line finished!!

 

I also need them to finially say that noal is indeed jain farstrider, another cousin of Lan. and what happened to strider?? wheres he been sulking? or fain? and if Asmodean wasn't killed by balefire and he's not any of the reborn forsaken then where is he?? was he actually killed or is he just in some dungeon or vacual somewhere, or maybe some when??*l*grrrr i don't care if it takes ten more books i want all of the story, don't rushit or cut it short.

[randsc]

The whole Faile killing Mesema was pretty cool and it helped make her look better. I wonder if the man in white for Berelains viewing from Min is going to be Galad?

 

I thought that as soon as I found out about the man in white, though when they started chasing the Shaido I thought it may be a gaishan.

 

I still think its a gishain, Min personnal knew galad before she ever had that vision and if it was him she'd have known and said something, or at least hinted about it.

 

Nah, its Galad.

 

Aside from the whole "man in white" thing, it's just too perfect.  They're both supposed to be unspeakably beautiful, then you have the whole Galad-as-a-paragon-of-virtue thing, while Berelain is...not.

[NegaWalker]

It is a real pity it didn't happen this book. But the next should be fantastic for all the information flowing and actions being taken.

 

The Whitecloaks joining with Perrin has been something anticipated since four books ago. It'll be great to finally see. And the Berelain/Man in White thing has been so eagerly anticipated as well.

 

Galad and Berelain will be a fantastic meeting. I expect poor Berelain to just /stare/ at him when they meet. Galad striding forward, removing his helmet, shaking out his hair and extending his gauntleted hand to Perrin... And Berelain has to be 'woken out of a daze' when Perrin tries to introduce her. It'd be glorious.

 

I wonder though. Morgaise's plotline has lingered for so long. I'm wondering if she won't try to hide herself from Galad and some Ta'veron thing throws them suddenly in front of one another.

[cap10kirk]

 

can just see the whole lot of the edmonds fielders lifting bows the second the whitecloaks show up, thats probably when morgags gets id'ed. running right onto the battle field to stop the showdown, edmondsfields have no love of whitecloaks*l*

 

Yep. I can see it going down like this. As someone stated earlier, I'm sure Perrin & Mat's major plot lines will be concluded. I am a little apprehensive that Brandon is rushing it a little. But only a little. He's done great so far.

[tneva82]

I really hope egwenes pov arc isn't anywhere complete, i need that gwain story line finished!!

 

I also need them to finially say that noal is indeed jain farstrider, another cousin of Lan. and what happened to strider?? wheres he been sulking? or fain? and if Asmodean wasn't killed by balefire and he's not any of the reborn forsaken then where is he?? was he actually killed or is he just in some dungeon or vacual somewhere, or maybe some when??*l*grrrr i don't care if it takes ten more books i want all of the story, don't rushit or cut it short.

 

Asmodean is dead and good riddance. RJ confirmed that he's dead for sure.

[apbadd]

Asmodean is dead and good riddance. RJ confirmed that he's dead for sure.

 

Agreed, however wouldn't it be more evil of the dark one to re-incarnate him only to enslave him to Moridin with a mind trap?

[Mr Ares]

The whole Faile killing Mesema was pretty cool and it helped make her look better. I wonder if the man in white for Berelains viewing from Min is going to be Galad?

I thought that as soon as I found out about the man in white, though when they started chasing the Shaido I thought it may be a gaishan.

I still think its a gishain, Min personnal knew galad before she ever had that vision and if it was him she'd have known and said something, or at least hinted about it.

Nah, its Galad.

 

Aside from the whole "man in white" thing, it's just too perfect.  They're both supposed to be unspeakably beautiful, then you have the whole Galad-as-a-paragon-of-virtue thing, while Berelain is...not.

Personally, I don't think it matters too much who she falls for. After all, the Viewing never said the feeling would be reciprocated. "She'll be snubbed up sooner or later", after all.

[ShiftedInsights]

I think that Perrin is going to end up King of the land mass formerly known as Saldea, Arad Doman, Almoth Plain, and the Two Rivers.  I think Elayne will grant autonomy to the Two Rivers to Perrin for keeping her mother alive, not that it really matters since she 'rules' the Two Rivers with about as much authority that Lan 'rules' Malkier. The whole broken crown thing will result in Perrin accidentally gaining control of that whole Northwestern quadrant, or at least I hope it will.  Faile Sucks. 

[ArchAngelus0fAll]

 

 

 

 

Oddly, I'd not call what Faile did "badass". She murdered Masema in cold blood. Granted, he's somewhat of a threat, but it was also contrary to the will of Rand and she didn't even seem conflicted. I've got to say that a lack of reverence for human life bothers me; Rand even feels conflict over killing Forsaken yet Faile doesn't even feel a twinge there.

 

 

Against Rand's will? Wtf? Rand isnt the Creator! He's flawed, he's human, his will may not be best and to say that it should be obeyed by all is ridiculous!

[wvlr2]

Against Rand's will? Wtf? Rand isnt the Creator! He's flawed, he's human, his will may not be best and to say that it should be obeyed by all is ridiculous!

 

Well yea, there is that!!    ...    and the fact that Mesama was a psycho, homicidal, fanatical, anti OP nutcase that would only have gotten worse.

 

 

My gripe is the whole Perrin/Galad/Morgese/Bornwald/Brair thing happened off scene!    Now we have it second hand (in patches) from 2 sources Rand and Tam.    It just is not going to have the impact it should have if they show it in the next book.

 

[ArchAngelus0fAll]

and im just waiting for Gawyn to see his mom alive, with Perrin of all people

 

[singogreatest360]

For the next book I would like

15% of the book Perrin and Galad

40% of the book Mat

10% of the book Rand

10% of the book Egwene

10% of the book Aviendha

15% of the book Others

 

Not in that order or lumped together

[Aleron688]

For the next book I would like

15% of the book Perrin and Galad

40% of the book Mat

10% of the book Rand

10% of the book Egwene

10% of the book Aviendha

15% of the book Others

 

Not in that order or lumped together

 

sounds reasonable to me! 

 

has anyone mentioned on here yet if verin had a letter for perrin? and, if so, what it said?

[analyticalkeys]

For the next book I would like

15% of the book Perrin and Galad

40% of the book Mat

10% of the book Rand

10% of the book Egwene

10% of the book Aviendha

15% of the book Others

 

Not in that order or lumped together

 

sounds reasonable to me! 

 

has anyone mentioned on here yet if verin had a letter for perrin? and, if so, what it said?

 

We don't know.. if she did, we'll find out in ToM.

[DemandredFO]

I suspect that when Perrin and Galad meet, there will be some confrontation between The TR folks and Dain/Byer.  Dain's hate may or may not have subsided somewhat because he's been out of contact with Fain since 2/3rds of the way through TSR and Fain was undoubtedly inflaming Dain's misguided hate.

For me, I'd like another POV of Morgase, because she didn't exactly have a flattering opinion of Perrin(neither do I, but that doesn't matter).  Kind of runs in the family, Perrin saves Morgase from Masema's men and she thinks he's a beast; Perrin saves what is technically part of Andor and Elayne is convinced, with no personal observations, that they are Rebels.

[The Watcher and Wanderer]

 

For the next book I would like

15% of the book Perrin and Galad

40% of the book Mat

10% of the book Rand

10% of the book Egwene

10% of the book Aviendha

15% of the book Others

 

Not in that order or lumped together

I'm thinking that ToM is going to pretty much be divided evenly between Mat and Perrin just as TGS was divided between Rand and Egwene.   I want more than 15% Perrin because he is beginning to see the error of his ways and i think we will begin to see more of the pre COS Perrin again.

 

I'm thinking more like

 

25% Perrin

30% Mat

15% Logain and/or Taim

10% Rand

10% Aviendha

5%   Egwene

2%   Loial

3%   Others

 

sounds reasonable to me!  

 

has anyone mentioned on here yet if verin had a letter for perrin? and, if so, what it said?

 

[analyticalkeys]

I'm thinking that ToM is going to pretty much be divided evenly between Mat and Perrin just as TGS was divided between Rand and Egwene.

 

BS said this book was going to be more all over the place, and less concentrated like TGS was on Rand & Egwene, so no. Also,we don't know if Verin had a letter for Perrin, she probably did since she was handing out posters for both him and Mat.. we'll find out next book.

[Diederichos]

25% Mat-Seanchan.

25% Perrin-Whitecloaks.

25% BT.

10% Rand-Nynaeve-Min-Cadsuane-Lan-Aviendha.

05% Egwene-WT.

05% Elayne(It'll probably be lumped into either the BT or Mat stuff, but better play it safe).

05% Other.

[Chance]

I have to believe at this point that Perrin's broken crown plot line will show up in ToM. It was interesting that Rand had a Min type viewing of Perrin, when the colors swirled, and he saw a stone sword above Perrin's head.  As one poster said, Perrin will become king of Saldea,etc.  I think that happens in the next book.

[The Watcher and Wanderer]

I'm thinking that ToM is going to pretty much be divided evenly between Mat and Perrin just as TGS was divided between Rand and Egwene.

 

BS said this book was going to be more all over the place, and less concentrated like TGS was on Rand & Egwene, so no. Also,we don't know if Verin had a letter for Perrin, she probably did since she was handing out posters for both him and Mat.. we'll find out next book.

 

None the less, considering the small roles that Mat and Perrin played in TGS I have to think they they will have relatively large roles in TGS.  I mean Perrin still has to:

 

-Complete the Broken Crown storyline

-Jump off a cliff and learn to fly before he hits the ground (or whatever that viewing really means)

-Stand in a forest with plants blooming all around him (or whatever that viewing really means)

-Still has to get it together with the wolves.

-Deal with Galad and the Whitecloaks

 

So Perrin still has a lot to do.  Mat still has quite a bit to do too but I don't want to get into that here as this is Perrin's thread.

[DemandredFO]

I'm thinking the jumping off a cliff has to do with the wolves.  After all, he isn't up to Elyas yet, he just uses them and then shuts them out.  Elyas seemed pretty sane in EOTW when he was talking to the wolves and humans.  He seems sane now to and I can't think he stopped talking to them.

[analyticalkeys]

I really hope it's something less obvious that a wolf-dream with Hopper.. and with the literal meaning of jumping off a cliff, and having Hopper teach him how to fly.

[Diederichos]

I don't know where else to put this, so here it goes. I think Galad will end up First Prince to Elayne. Gawyn will probably be bonded to Egwene and that will be his full time job most likely. Galad on the other hand has always been worked up by Elayne as this horrendous brother(in a sisterly way of course) and how he'd never be her First Prince and they don't get along. That'd probably end up be some nice foreshadowing/funny moments if Galad ended up becoming just that.

[mateodh]

Galad is one of the most intriguing characters in the series, since he's often referred to but has very little face time. The last we heard of him he was having an epic swordfight, now he's going to be meeting up with Perrin at some point (why this is an appropriate thread to discuss him). He'll almost certainly discover Morgase alive and probably attempt to take her back to Caemlyn. If he succeeds it would go a long way to reconcile him with Elayne.

 

But in regards to Perrin, it will be interesting to see their interaction on so many fronts. In addition to Darkfriend accusations, Galad is Andoran royalty and Perrin represents a real threat of rebellion, with the Manetheren banner and all.

 

So this begs the only question really worth asking: Perrin vs Galad, one-on-one, who do you take?

[Mr Ares]

Well, Aram nearly beat Perrin - he was only saved by outside intervention. If Perrin can hit Galad with that hammer, he'd win, but that's the hard part. Galad would have a much easier time of it. Probably Galad, one on one.