Concern about AMoL

[Builder]

Call me a heretic or whatever, but do you guys think that even such a great writer as RJ could manage to put all loose threads together in one last book? I know BS is writing the book, but it was RJ that thought it out.

 

Btw, I am Cockta, but I call myself Builder now because of my long lasting relationship with city building simulation games ;)

[Darth_Andrea]

I'll admit that the Wot story is 10 x 10 x 10 x 1,000,000,000 times more complicated than any Gleeman telling the simple story of the great hunt of the horn. But RJ is the master weaver. He knows what his final threads are and just where they go. Knowing he wouldn't be able to place them himself he left a very in depth guide for who ever was to finish the work. I don't think we really have that much to worry about when it comes to tieing up all the plot threads.

 

Though I wouldn't be totally surprised if RJ hadn't intended on giving us all the answers in AMOL. He had planned some outriggers, the one we know of was going to be Mat and Tuon about 10 years after TG perhaps the story of their retaking and rebuilding a new Seanchan empire. One would hope that in that novel he would have put a end to the leashing of women who can channel.

 

But we may never know, there may be things left unanswered. Things that were designed to be put off for the purpose of using them in the outriggers. Outriggers that may or may not see publication. Harriet has said she might consider having BS or someone else write them if AMOL does well. from what BS has said RJ left some notes on them, as he has claimed he knows whats supposed to happen in them.

 

Either way I don't think anyone will be truly disappointed if a particular plot line isn't completely wrapped up. I mean how often in real life to you find real solid and complete closure after a war?

 

 

Darth_Andrea          

[mb]

I am not sure if all loose threads would be pulled, but I imagine the pre-Tarmon Gai'don predictions (from the books) would be fulfilled.  Maybe also the predictions concerning Rand.

What is not covered in Memory of Light I imagine would be covered in the outrigger novels.

 

[Razor]

Of course BS can't finish it all in one book.  That's why it shoulds like he is finishing the editing/revisions for the first volume of AMOL to be done in April, probably to be announced at Jordan.con with the second, and probably final volume still to be finished.

[Roxinos]

The "first and second volumes" as you put it, are not going to be completed separately. The idea is that Sanderson thinks that aMoL may be split into two volumes, once completed, if the volumes are too large. Like how Lord of the Rings was published as three books for economic reasons despite that it was written as a single work.

[scarredpelt]

I would take as many books as necessary to fulfill the story so long as it doesn't take 4 years between each of them. I know RJ promised to finish it up in aMoL but honestly I just can't see how it can be done, there is just so much left undone and known. I quite happily would take the split providing the finish arrived soon after.

[42Bonzo88]

    I'm just excited for anything and rereading the books often keeps the story alive for me. I hope it ends soon but I would rather wait for a better ending than a quick ending. If that makes any sense at all. ;)

[balefireruinssteaks]

Any series finale has got to be nerve-wracking to write, as the fans are expecting everything to be tied up and all story arcs to be fulfilled in a satisfactory manner.  This probably puts enormous pressure on a writer to make it good, haha.  But I think RJ was such a writer, and I don't think that he would leave us disappointed. 

 

With great respect I think that he understood his condition and therefore wrote the proper notes and storylines so that B could effectively finish out AMOL.  I don't think we'll be disappointed whether they decide to make it one or two volumes.

 

It's like any series that has popularity, though.  Harry Potter's finale must have been crazy to write, just as writing The Lord of the Rings must have been insane for Tolkien (and so complicated!!).  I have faith that we'll be thoroughly entertained though.

[Builder]

And entertained we will be! I have no doubt that the ending will be splendid even if it doesn't wrap everything up. I hope that the outriggers will be published and that eventually everything will be clarified. I love it when I understand what exactly happened, and that I get a clue on what will happen in the near future.

[Elgee]

Why is everyone so hung up on "not all the story lines can be completed because that wouldn't be like real life"? I read a newspaper for that  :P

[bluecole]

RJ has stated publicly (on his blog)  that not all the threads will be "tied up"

 

As far as splitting aMoL, what will be will be.  We can't control it.  I would rather get high quality in my hands than something crappy sooner.  I've waited almost 10 years for this to be finished; some have waited almost 20 years for it to be finished. 

 

I read somewhere that the final part of aMoL would be published on the 20th anniversary of tEotW.  (which, or course, would put it out to 2011.)

 

Wouldn't that suck?  But HArriet, if you decide to do it, then DO it!  The Bride of the Creator can do no wrong.

 

B.

[MikeRiley]

No.. it would be pretty wrong to hold out a finished final book for a few years just for a 20 year anniversary. May as well take it to 50 then. They could always come out with a special boxed set for the anniversary anyway.

[Ludmian]

I read somewhere that the final part of aMoL would be published on the 20th anniversary of tEotW.  (which, or course, would put it out to 2011.)

 

Wouldn't that suck?  But HArriet, if you decide to do it, then DO it!  The Bride of the Creator can do no wrong.

 

B.

 

TEOTW was published in February 1990, so if they decide to publish AMOL on the 20th anniversary it will be in February 2010. The date seems rather probable to me. It's rather unlikely that Brandon Sanderson will finish the book in time for it to be published this year anyway.

[Mr Ares]

TEOTW was published in February 1990.

January, according to wikipedia.

 

just as writing The Lord of the Rings must have been insane for Tolkien (and so complicated!!).

Or the Silmarillion.

 

I know RJ promised to finish it up in aMoL but honestly I just can't see how it can be done.

By writing a really long book.

 

do you guys think that even such a great writer as RJ could manage to put all loose threads together in one last book?

All the important ones' date=' and most of the minor ones, yes. Why does it matter if it is 1 book or more? He [s']could just write[/s] is writing a really long book. How does writing 2 books or more give him a better chance to tie up all the loose ends? Just write one that is as big as those two or more.

[Nasty Butler]

As far as splitting aMoL, what will be will be. 

 

Not to be a huge geek or anything, but I believe the correct phrase is "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel Wills."

[scarredpelt]

I know RJ promised to finish it up in aMoL but honestly I just can't see how it can be done.

By writing a really long book.

 

Do the letters D, U, and H arranged in that order and side by side in a word mean anything to you? :D

 

Perhaps Mr Ares (note the lack of a period.)what I should have rather stated was I couldn't see how the story could be wrapped up satisfactorily in a single 'manageable' book. I mean I have this vision of the last book being like my special unabridged Websters Dictionary that weighed about 5 pounds and took up about 6000cc of space in my duffel bag.

[CUBAREY]

As far as splitting aMoL, what will be will be.  We can't control it.  I would rather get high quality in my hands than something crappy sooner.  I've waited almost 10 years for this to be finished; some have waited almost 20 years for it to be finished. 

 

If you read Brandon Sanderson's last Blog post he says he is working feverishly on rewrites of the part of the book he has already written a first draft of. He states that the deadline imposed by Harriet is in April and that she will likely be making an annoucement at JordonCon (which is in April). So I suspect that we will soon be told that the first part of AMOL will be published in the fall or early winter.

[Builder]

I ain't reading no books!

[Razor]

Builer if you don't read books , why are you here? 

[Builder]

Ehh, sarcasm anyone?

 

I'm on my first re-read of the Wheel of Time, and I've read a number of other books. Probably not comparable if I look at how many books some people here have read, but I have definitely read more books than others I know.

[Mr Ares]

Do the letters D, U, and H arranged in that order and side by side in a word mean anything to you? :D

Well, my specialist subject is the bleeding obvious.

 

(note the lack of a period.)

I did. I also noted the lack of a full stop.

what I should have rather stated was I couldn't see how the story could be wrapped up satisfactorily in a single 'manageable' book.

RJ never said he planned a mangeable last book. Bearing in mind his stements include a measure of exaggeration, he did say that it would be one book even if it was so big it had to be carried around in a wheelbarrow, or was the size of three phone books, etc.

[Yllek]

I don't think all the loose ends SHOULD be tied up... it would make this discussion board less interesting, that's for sure.

[cauthon123]

i wonder if there will be a big story line after TG. like how in LOTR, when pippin and co. come back to the shire, saruman was "modernising" it. it was quite good to have some adventure even after the supposed "main"  story line ended. I would surely love it if there is a story after TG too. But with RJ's passing, there is little chance of that, but BS has said that AMoL isnt the last of the material left behind by RJ, apparently he has also left behind notes for one of a 3 planned prologues/epilogues. i hope for rands survival after TG, and also, for moiraine to do something, and also for nynaeve to somehow cure rand's insanity. I just cant imagine the series coming to an end

[Mercer]

I'm on my first re-read of the Wheel of Time, and I've read a number of other books. Probably not comparable if I look at how many books some people here have read, but I have definitely read more books than others I know.

First EVER re-read of the series? I wish I could go back to those times, and no mistake.

 

I came to the series relatively late (compared to readers here, I imagine), about a year before Crossroads of Twilight was released (2002?), and I must have read the series completely over 8 or 9 times now. I'd have to re-read when the new books came out, and then again a year later when the memory of early books began to fade...and every time I wish I could forget the entire thing and read it again.

[Majsju]

I don't think all the loose ends SHOULD be tied up... it would make this discussion board less interesting, that's for sure.

 

No worries, they will not. Among all the very detailed notes RJ left behind, he has specifically stated at least some plotlines we will not see solved, some people whose fate will be left hanging in the air.