Leane's pecuilar action

[druidravi]

I have been re-reading the books and noticed this passage in " A crown of swords

 

"Leane tilted her head. “In that case, Mother, if you will forgive me, there’s a man in Lord Bryne’s camp . . . After all, whoever heard of a Green without even one Warder?” From the sudden quickening in her voice, you might have thought she was off to meet a lover. Considering what Egwene had heard about Greens, perhaps there was not that much difference."

 

Is this just an innocent as sounding as it appears or is it Leane reporting to someone about Egwene .

[aevogt]

That's a really good point. 

 

That took place in ACOS which takes place in, roughly, January 1000 NE, according to Cooper’s chronology.  The end of K.O.D. is roughly four months later, and still no warder for Leanne.  Interesting.

 

I'm fairly certain that Leanne is not a DF but that's certainly an anomaly. 

 

Although, when I think about it, Leanne has no POV chapters that I can find.  We don't really know what's in her head. 

 

Is she a Mole?  A really deep mole? 

 

This may be reaching but what if she was forced to accept stilling as part of a deeper plot.  The D.O. can make a D.F. do pretty much anything.  Her only other choice would have been a fairly horrific death.  The DO can be persuasive. 

 

I've heard (and had) crazier theories.

 

Can anyone think of any reasons why Leanne is definitively not a DF?  All the "Oh Elayne, your my bestest friend"  doesn't cut it.

 

[Lune]

I didn't really think anything was strange about what she said. Ever since her Stilling, Leane has begun behaving in a manner that better fits the stereotype of her nationality. She may have been doing exactly what she said she was going to do - proposition a man to become her Warder. Let's not forget that a number of Greens do take their Warders as lovers as well, which would explain the 'meeting a lover thing'. She may have just been sleeping with the guy or planning to but had been rejected.

[Littel me]

Altrougth Leane as a darkfriend would explain how some one in the WT knew about Leane and Egwene trip to the haborchaines. As I have understond(sp?) it, it was a secert plan not even know to the hall. The BA would probely (and Mesaana sertely) not have let this info into WT hands if the had know Egwene was one of the to, or at the very least had let Egwene ecape - Mesaana is angry at Hemali(sp?) over Egwene capture. This combinet whit the fact that Leane inverte the weaving to hid from the WT AS make me belive Leana is loyal to Egwene.

 

But then agian who know - it would not be the first time RJ had me fool  :)

[druidravi]

Altrougth Leane as a darkfriend would explain how some one in the WT knew about Leane and Egwene trip to the haborchaines. As I have understond(sp?) it, it was a secert plan not even know to the hall. The BA would probely (and Mesaana sertely) not have let this info into WT hands if the had know Egwene was one of the to, or at the very least had let Egwene ecape - Mesaana is angry at Hemali(sp?) over Egwene capture. This combinet whit the fact that Leane inverte the weaving to hid from the WT AS make me belive Leana is loyal to Egwene.

 

But then agian who know - it would not be the first time RJ had me fool  :)

 

I am not saying Leane is a dark friend but there is a good possiblity she is . Remember in the original plan Egwene was not in the picture . Leane couldn't have forseen Egwene's sudden decision to do it by herself .

 

    Leane inverted the weave but in the end got herself captured . But what happened to her she is in the white tower getting VIP treatment as a prisoner and meeting several Aes-Sedai daily . We presume all of them were questioning her regarding travelling but she is in a perfect position to communicate with the rest of them .

 

    Another interesting though is if Leane was Black Ajah why was she stilled . Remember Leane was keeper to Siaunche and still did not know anything about the Rand plan which Moraine and Siuan hatched and executed .We know the coup against Siuan had tactit support from the black Ajah and Messana . I don't take it past Messana to still Leane along with Siaun as a punishment for failing her duty .

 

    We don't have anything from her POV so we cannot be sure she is not Black Ajah . I am not saying this is sure but  is an interesting possibilty as we do know someone in Egwene's camp is leaking info and it would be a nice twist if it was her.

[DuDZiK]

It could be as simple as she asked the man if he wanted to be her Warder, and the man said no. It could also be that RJ simply forgot about this and never bothered to explain it; let's face it as great an author as he is he's still human, and could very well be prone to mistakes. He certainly makes less than other authors I know.

 

For what it's worth, I highly doubt she's a Darkfriend. For one, if she was, Halima/Aran'Gar would not need Sheriam and would know a great deal more about what Egwene's plans were than they seem to at the moment. She could be a spy for someone else, like Elaida, but I doubt that even more.

[druidravi]

Each of the forsaken have different spies which none of them know . It could be she is Messana's spy which Halima doesn't know . Remember when Moghedian talking with the Black Ajah didn't actually know that there was one of the forsaken(Messana) in the tower .

 

I am not saying Leane is black . But just we can't rule her out.

[aevogt]

Didn't Beonin Betray the plan to block the narbors?

[Gentled Ben]

I think we only know that Beonin betrayed the ferrets, the Aes Sedai who were sent back to the Tower to quietly sow seeds of dissent.

[DuDZiK]

Each of the forsaken have different spies which none of them know . It could be she is Messana's spy which Halima doesn't know . Remember when Moghedian talking with the Black Ajah didn't actually know that there was one of the forsaken(Messana) in the tower .

 

I am not saying Leane is black . But just we can't rule her out.

 

True, but keep in mind that now Moridin has all the Forsaken bound to him. Now, this doesn't mean that the Forsaken won't hold back some information they think will be useful to them, but now that they are all supposed to be planning 'together' it is less likely that one Forsaken may know things that the others do not.

 

I don't mean to say she couldn't be Black Ajah with any certainty, just that given the Forsaken, especially Halima, have regarding Egwene seems to me to mean that she likely isn't.

[Nightstrike]

I don't think Leane is a spy or a darkfriend. It is a huge thing for someone to accept being bonded to an Aes Sedai. Some people even avoids being healed by an Aes Sedai. Having someone in your mind for as long as you live would cause anyone to think long and hard. I think the Aes Sedai would have to search a long time to find a suitable Gaidin, and the man in question might not want such a commitment.

[General Cauthon]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the books that Greens are picky with their first Warder? Perhaps she's "sleeping around", until she finds the right candidate...

[trakand_01]

I think i've missed something here. I read that part quite recently but i never thought anything of it. I just saw it that Leane is Domani, and when severed she used playing with men as her 'crutch'. Once released from the rules and expectations of being an Aes Sedai, she returned to her native activities - and lets face it, Domani women like to be looked at, they like to flirt about. When i read that part with Egwene, I think she was on her way to find her 'man' to start with, but then felt kind of obliged to stop by / with Egwene, so once Egwene said "no, please go" or whatever she said, she continued with what she'd been doing to start with.

 

I think she's just taking advantage of being an attractive woman with no Warder and lots of men around her.

 

With reference to Greens taking their warders to their beds, isnt there some conversation between Lan and Nynaeve on the boat when he rescues her in Ebou Dar after Moggy has shattered her boat to splinters, to suggest that Myrelle took Lan to her bed? I remember Nyn being horrified and having to very much put "Lan and that woman" out of her head.

[Tyrell]

Yes she did indeed.

 

Apparrently it's part of getting a warder over the death-rage thing.

 

*ahem*

[aevogt]

I'm fairly certain Egwene noticed a bitemark on Lan's neck during the scene in the clearing.  That's about as racey as RJ got until the bonding.

[lou]

well, except for repeated references to pillow friends, everything halima does, rahvin's "playthings" and graendals "pretties" and the whole tylin/mat courting rituals.........

[CUBAREY]

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well, except for repeated references to pillow friends, everything halima does, rahvin's "playthings" and graendals "pretties" and the whole tylin/mat courting rituals.........

 

Also the normally reserved Carhernen(sp) wooping it up during the Sunday Feast(?) the night Perrin goes after Rand and the Tower A.S. right before Dumai Wells.

 

 

 

[aevogt]

Yeah, except for al that stuff (chagrin)

[Aka Karalin]

I think i've missed something here. I read that part quite recently but i never thought anything of it. I just saw it that Leane is Domani, and when severed she used playing with men as her 'crutch'. Once released from the rules and expectations of being an Aes Sedai, she returned to her native activities - and lets face it, Domani women like to be looked at, they like to flirt about. When i read that part with Egwene, I think she was on her way to find her 'man' to start with, but then felt kind of obliged to stop by / with Egwene, so once Egwene said "no, please go" or whatever she said, she continued with what she'd been doing to start with.

 

I think she's just taking advantage of being an attractive woman with no Warder and lots of men around her.

 

With reference to Greens taking their warders to their beds, isnt there some conversation between Lan and Nynaeve on the boat when he rescues her in Ebou Dar after Moggy has shattered her boat to splinters, to suggest that Myrelle took Lan to her bed? I remember Nyn being horrified and having to very much put "Lan and that woman" out of her head.

 

I agree with trakand_01. I never saw the possibility for Leane being a DF, but it's possible.

[lou]

i never did either, until the harbor.