[GAME OVER - TOWN WINS] Dragon and Swift

[DPR]

40 MINS

[SinisterDeath]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:01 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

I'd rather we killed you.

 

I'm not gonna give you reasons to vote him

 

Your gonna have to show your own work.

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Anyone tell you, you're no fun? 😛

 

Well. I'm going to Vote Teph.
 

I went over his posts earlier and he hasn't really given me any good information. Everything he posted back in N0 was on the spammy side, with a few posts here and there with content worth reviewing.
He started to get into the game, and I noticed he had some early interactions with Berf, and at one point he even accused me of "distancing from heavy", which I thought was a bit odd.

Right now though this whole "Dice caught heavy in a slip" thing has seemed to really take off with a few people, and Teph has also seemed to run with it.

He could have put a vote on me, but saw that train dying, so he moved to a new target... and he went with Dice's "reason".

Course, Dice was wrong last game about.. well a few things that caused town to lose. So I don't know if this was a seed he planted for other town to latch onto to get them killed, or this was just Dice being Dice. (lolz)

 

But given Teph's difference in gameplay, in this game versus last, that his was an intentional play on his part.

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:20 PM, Gudrean said:

Heavy felt town up until this day for me

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What happened today to make you vote him?

[Gudrean]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:16 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

And this.

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you don't like it? oh well, didn't have better choices, my highest gut feel is LeeLou but no one would ever jump there so...

[DPR]

  

Current Vote Count:
 

Sinister (2) - Turin, peace

Teph (5) - Lee, Ithi, berf, Heavy, Sin

Heavy (4) - dice, Tarthe/Digs, Teph, Gud

berf (1)  - Shad

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. 
 

Deadline @ 4 pm EST on Friday ( May 30th) 

 

38 mins

 

*Countdown clock link at top of OP

[Leelou]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:22 PM, Gudrean said:

you don't like it? oh well, didn't have better choices, my highest gut feel is LeeLou but no one would ever jump there so...

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I thought you had a townie lean on me, and now I’m your highest gut feel? 

[peacesells]

Caught up.  That was alot.

Did Gud claim night 0 role cop?  Unless there is a counter claim that leans strong town.

Heavy is throwing scum accusations around like tic tacs.

He's my 2nd read as scum.  

UNVOTE

VOTE HEAVY

 

[Tephulis]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:20 PM, SinisterDeath said:

But given Teph's difference in gameplay, in this game versus last, that his was an intentional play on his part.

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My game play last game got me shot N1, was trying to prevent that from happening again, letting D1 take its usual crooked course of unreasoning. 

[Gudrean]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:23 PM, Leelou said:

I thought you had a townie lean on me, and now I’m your highest gut feel? 

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remember yesterday when I said I was pinged by your reaction to Heavy? that's my gut feel and my lean means so far you are minding your Ps and Qs but I still feel there's something hiding in there

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:20 PM, Gudrean said:

 

 

 

I don't have time/being pressured to vote since DL is approaching and don't like any choices so I used PoE to go with the only option that I had any doubts about, sorry 😟

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So great, another vote based on nothing. Town should keep fighting though, so what am I meant to argue against? Against Turins collection of irrelevant occurrences? Dice's slip that was a factual statement? Darthe's I havent' read the thread but I'm voting? Teph's I'm sheeping every bad reason I can find? Your "I waited so long to vote I dont' have a choice"? If only someone had encouraged you to avoid that situation, huh?

 

Brilliant. Thanks, guys.

[Gudrean]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:24 PM, peacesells said:

Did Gud claim night 0 role cop?  Unless there is a counter claim that leans strong town.

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Yeah but no one seemed to react to it at all, not surprised

[DPR]

  

Current Vote Count:
 

Sinister (1) - Turin

Teph (5) - Lee, Ithi, berf, Heavy, Sin

Heavy (5)- dice, Tarthe/Digs, Teph, Gud, peace

berf (1)  - Shad

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. 
 

Deadline @ 4 pm EST on Friday ( May 30th) 

 

30 mins

 

*Countdown clock link at top of OP

Edited May 30 by DPR

[Leelou]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:27 PM, Gudrean said:

remember yesterday when I said I was pinged by your reaction to Heavy? that's my gut feel and my lean means so far you are minding your Ps and Qs but I still feel there's something hiding in there

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And that’s your highest gut feeling?

[peacesells]

man....this seems eerily similar to last game as the SD train fell apart.  creepy even.  

[Leelou]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:28 PM, Gudrean said:

Yeah but no one seemed to react to it at all, not surprised

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There was really no reason for you to claim anything at all at that time. 

[SinisterDeath]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:30 PM, peacesells said:

man....this seems eerily similar to last game as the SD train fell apart.  creepy even.  

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Almost like someone who's been obsessed with last game planned it that way...

[Tephulis]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:28 PM, Gudrean said:

Yeah but no one seemed to react to it at all, not surprised

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That means you are the only confirmed Town at this point

[Ithillian Turambar]

These are all the times that Peace has mentioned Heavy. His second highest read

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 9:36 PM, peacesells said:

I had to go back and see the post Heavy keeps referring to.

I must of glossed over this originally or thought it was some inside joke of some sort?  

Shad, what did you mean by it?

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  On 5/30/2025 at 1:03 AM, peacesells said:

Wait til Heavy gets ahold of you.

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  On 5/29/2025 at 5:40 PM, peacesells said:

Dude...you may not like the way/shape/form someone responds but those are real game play responses.  Better than Turin "hide his posts" crap.  Anyway, gifs show dismissiveness, agitation, sarcasm, agreement etc.  They also are a better display of the emotion that the poster is feeling in the moment than the written word.  Heck, half of DPR's game is gifs....haven't seen you complain about it before.
 

Yeah...not helpful.  Save this stuff to your own personal message like I do.  I just send things to myself that I want to get back to later.  Otherwise it just looks like an opportunity to get some gullible towny to latch onto and make your fake case for you.
 

Certainly from your perspective...I loved it.  😛
 

Did you and Heavy set this whole exchange up?  It looks like you two set it up. 
 

This statement is true and there has been "you did this as scum last time" on the SD case from both Ithi and me.  I'd love to get a real train going on Tig because the slanks and hammers as scum.

But..I'd like to see some real friggin input from you on the whole playfield first.  Heck, maybe both of you are scum and you are parking a vote for later reference...like that matters in a no coroner game.

Do work dude or not/shrug

 

 

Berf...thank you thank you thank you.  I really got a good laugh on this whole sequence.  

FYI  I would really have placed the 3rd vote on SD but you beat me to it.  No, you technically didn't have to wait but I did call dibs.  No i know you just don't follow sibling/bro code.  Dibs matters Berf...remember that. 



The sleep, shower and 2 hour wasted drive to see a property gave me no clues on how to solve this game without blind luck.  No wagonomics and such.  So it going to be pure Vote and Hope.

SD is top of my list still.  Even with Shads misgivings with him being so overt...not out of character imo.

There is a dynamic between Heavy and Leelou that triggers me.  Need a full reread to sus that out.

Tig...non existent.  Same as last game as scum.  Problem here is odds right?  The last game played SD and Tig were both scum exhibiting the same characteristics but no way twice in a roll right? 

DPR did say he isnt a bastard mod....but I'm starting to have my doubts.  (before you pipe in DPR...i kid...i kid...but reallly?)

VOTE SD  

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  On 5/29/2025 at 6:17 PM, peacesells said:

without going back and quoting all the posts...here how it goes.

Leelou: "Heavy looks scummy for blah blah"

Heavy:  "Oh, this is why I said blah blah"

Leelou: "Oh..in that case you look like town"

Maybe later I'll quote it all...don't hold me to it though. 


anyway...really walking out the door now.

 

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  On 5/30/2025 at 5:15 PM, peacesells said:

Wasn't much of a slip imo.  Has no influence on my opinion of Heavy.  

I'll look for the quote.

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  On 5/30/2025 at 5:18 PM, peacesells said:

The way that DPR posted Tarthe/Dig on the Heavy count threw me off a bit.  So technically there are 3 trains.

SD 4
Heavy 2
Berf 2

So hard No's on two of the three.

 

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  On 5/30/2025 at 7:24 PM, peacesells said:

Caught up.  That was alot.

Did Gud claim night 0 role cop?  Unless there is a counter claim that leans strong town.

Heavy is throwing scum accusations around like tic tacs.

He's my 2nd read as scum.  

UNVOTE

VOTE HEAVY

 

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No previous real mention of thinking Heavy is Mafia really that I can see. Maybe Peace just doesn't want Teph to die.

[SinisterDeath]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:32 PM, Tephulis said:

That means you are the only confirmed Town at this point

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Did you forget about RIP!Darthe? 😛 

*Pokes corpse with stick*

Maybe we should ask it some questions?

[Leelou]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:32 PM, Tephulis said:

That means you are the only confirmed Town at this point

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That doesn’t confirm anything. There are folks that haven’t been on or posted yet. 

[Turin Turambar]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:30 PM, Leelou said:

There was really no reason for you to claim anything at all at that time. 

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However, due to circumstances in the game, there is no harm other than she doesn't presently have the cop role. So slightly reducing the cop pool. Also it makes it harder for mafia to claim it.

 

If you believe her. Why would she fake that though?

[dicetosser1]

  On 5/30/2025 at 6:03 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

My "slip" that Dice caught is complete BS. It is a statement of fact that Darthe's wolf reads on N0 were me and Berf. Anyone falling for that simply cannot read and I am not happy at all that is pushing it all.

 

Darthe's "I haven't read the thread but I'm voting Heavy just like I fingered him from one post" seems equally paper thin, and I think it is scandalous that this "case" is getting traction.

 

Cannot deny that the nonsense Turin posted also has me in a really bad mood. 

 

Really nice to see that not a single person is pointing out the weakness of the case against me, at least Ithi apparently can read me.

 

I could move my vote back to Teph but I really hoped he would have added some content. It seems a bit wrong to target someone with so few posts, no matter how wolfy they are. 

 

Turin/Dice/Berf/Peace seem actively wolfy, and looking forward to the pearls of wisdom Darthe is about to drop on us. Dice could just be fixated on his amazing slip finding capabilities, but not happy with the timing of three paper thin cases suddenly being thrown at me that are unanswerable as they rely on things that did not actually happen. Which doesn't seem to be much of a problem to anyone else.

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oh look! Here’s the reaction he didn’t give!

 

too late now

 

right let’s sort this out now

 

i did NOT make some massive gotcha post.

i quite obviously wasn’t sure it was a slip.

how can you know that? I asked for other peoples opinions!

 

if I’m sure I got a slip? I’m on you IMMEDIATELY and I don’t let go. I have voted the single same person for the entire GAME because of that.

 

what GOT my vote was his lack of reaction.

this above? Based on typical heavy behaviour should have happened straight away

 

it didn’t. 
 

I think he was scared about how much o respond.

 

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 6:54 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Someone give me a fluffing gun. The next person that tries to make something out of my "first wolf rand" gets in the face.

 

That is your case? I made a factual statement about Darthe's reads and this is a AI slip? You lazy fluffing...

 

UNVOTE

VOTE TEPH

 

I mean seriously, Dice cannot read and I have to put up with this?

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actually I read at 1400 w/min with 100% comprehension

 

why do you think Zander gets on me if I don’t remember something?
 

 

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:20 PM, SinisterDeath said:

Anyone tell you, you're no fun? 😛

 

Well. I'm going to Vote Teph.
 

I went over his posts earlier and he hasn't really given me any good information. Everything he posted back in N0 was on the spammy side, with a few posts here and there with content worth reviewing.
He started to get into the game, and I noticed he had some early interactions with Berf, and at one point he even accused me of "distancing from heavy", which I thought was a bit odd.

Right now though this whole "Dice caught heavy in a slip" thing has seemed to really take off with a few people, and Teph has also seemed to run with it.

He could have put a vote on me, but saw that train dying, so he moved to a new target... and he went with Dice's "reason".

Course, Dice was wrong last game about.. well a few things that caused town to lose. So I don't know if this was a seed he planted for other town to latch onto to get them killed, or this was just Dice being Dice. (lolz)

 

But given Teph's difference in gameplay, in this game versus last, that his was an intentional play on his part.

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Yeah? I lynched 2 out of three mafia last game, including you, and yeah got the last one in ring and lost so you wanna make something out of it open your mouth and say it instead of the innuendo.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well I guess there were some slight accusations of 'setting stuff up'

 

But still. Very weak for 2nd highest Mafia read.

[Leelou]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:33 PM, Turin Turambar said:

However, due to circumstances in the game, there is no harm other than she doesn't presently have the cop role. So slightly reducing the cop pool. Also it makes it harder for mafia to claim it.

 

If you believe her. Why would she fake that though?

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I’m currently indifferent. 

[Tephulis]

  On 5/29/2025 at 8:41 AM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I like Leelou's vote (obviously) refreshingly decisive, though more raisining would be good other than the undoubtedly true awkwardness.

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This^^

LeeLou voted me with no raisins at all.  Seems you were really ok with where that came from.  Another reason I have suspicions of you two on a team