Camp Dreadfall Mafia Game -- GAME OVER -- MAFIA WIN!

[Turin Turambar]

@DPR, my questions have intent.

 

1. Do you think SD is really town?

2. Can you decide to double vote in day phase? (or do you have to request that ability the night before?)

 

If one is no and two is yes, would you be willing  to double vote SD today?

 

I will UNVOTE if you don't wanna hammer.

[Turin Turambar]

@SinisterDeath, what do you think about Dice not being willing to vote you last day phase, and now he is saying he is only voting you. While trying to link you to me.

 

 

[DPR]

6 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

@DPR, my questions have intent.

 

1. Do you think SD is really town?

2. Can you decide to double vote in day phase? (or do you have to request that ability the night before?)

 

If one is no and two is yes, would you be willing  to double vote SD today?

 

I will UNVOTE if you don't wanna hammer.

Everybody has intent… but whatevs
 

1. I lean town for SD, as I’ve said all game. 
2. My actions are all NA’s

3. There are multiple players I’d consider voting for. Barrow no new information, SD is near the bottom of that list. 
4. I’ve never cared about being the hammer or not

 

Heres one for you - why announce you have a role if it’s more effective unannounced? 

[SinisterDeath]

6 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

@SinisterDeath, what do you think about Dice not being willing to vote you last day phase, and now he is saying he is only voting you. While trying to link you to me.

So, I was busy most of Saturday, EON Happened, and I posted my thing on Dice, and then he responded with what amounts to OMGUS energy.

On 5/17/2025 at 7:38 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

On 5/17/2025 at 6:20 PM, SinisterDeath said:

Let me just let this sit here for a moment, while I move on to Dicetosser.

 

Dicetosser - Dice was like a lot of us getting irritated with GK.   
Earlier in the day, Dice and Turing interacted.

 

Then later in the evening, we get what looks to be distancing from Turin?

Other then that, most of what I'm getting on Dice has been arguing with GK on his cop claim, and then after Peace flips town, he starts defending my vote on Peace. He also does the same thing with Heavy.

 

  

This is why I only have you as a scum lean. You getting into it with GK like this, and then GK getting shot looks scummy, but maybe because someone's trying to set you up. or it's a double fake out. (stupid wifom!)

so let me get this straight.

 

im a scum lean.

 

because I said Turin who had two votes at the time wouldn’t get lynched I. The like 10 minutes left when most of the game wasn’t around. I also said I wouldn’t lunch you but of course you have no or em with that.

 

but then when you list Turin who you say “has been up your ass all game” you don’t even GIVE what your read is? And he’s the ONLY one in that list you don’t actually say what you read was?

 

oh and ftr. If I had a gun? There would’ve only been one death most likely cause I very likely would have shot EP.

 

and then your like maybe you’re getting set up! But in the mean time I’ve got Turin sudsing me because EP told me to wake up?

 

right Vote SD. He flips scum Turins next imo

 

So, That's why I only have Dice as a Scum Lean. I've been eyeing you this whole damn game, because of all your tenuous connections.

[Turin Turambar]

7 minutes ago, DPR said:

Everybody has intent… but whatevs
 

1. I lean town for SD, as I’ve said all game. 
2. My actions are all NA’s

3. There are multiple players I’d consider voting for. Barrow no new information, SD is near the bottom of that list. 
4. I’ve never cared about being the hammer or not

 

Heres one for you - why announce you have a role if it’s more effective unannounced? 

Because there are levels to anything and WIFOM works both ways. If I say I have a role,  mafia will start to theorize what it could be and how that affects them. Maybe they decide to try to block or kill me. Maybe that doesn't work too well for them. Maybe I just get killed and someone else lives longer.

 

If I tell them the role then they know and can make their plans more effectively. Do all us "townies" want that? I don't.  I want them to sweat what I can do. Of course I could just be the doc. Lololololol 

Spoiler

Hint: I'm not the doc.

 

[Turin Turambar]

15 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

So, I was busy most of Saturday, EON Happened, and I posted my thing on Dice, and then he responded with what amounts to OMGUS energy.

 

So, That's why I only have Dice as a Scum Lean. I've been eyeing you this whole damn game, because of all your tenuous connections.

Well you can park your vote on me again. Maybe DPR will double vote me to help out. 

 

Then you can hope you don't get shot tonight. Maybe your not worried cause you got a RB.

[Turin Turambar]

@SinisterDeath, Mafia is a game of connections. Anyone that says otherwise is not being honest. Townies don't know the connections so guess as best they can. Mafia KNOW  some of the connections.  With that knowledge  sometimes they slip. I think that is what happened when you defended DPR.  You also sort of defended Heavy. There was a difference. With DPR you stated "not to worry about that read", basically stating you had him as town. No  way you know that at that point. With Heavy,  you said "he didn't like getting rolled up on", that is a statement about his personality,  not his alignment. I am actually surprised DPR didn't question you for TMI, maybe I'm not actually. 

[SinisterDeath]

4 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

@SinisterDeath, Mafia is a game of connections. Anyone that says otherwise is not being honest. Townies don't know the connections so guess as best they can. Mafia KNOW  some of the connections.  With that knowledge  sometimes they slip.

You're 1000% correct. Town doesn't know who's who, and the Mafia do. Yet I feel like you've fabricated connections that don't exist this entire game. (Maybe when I'm not busy at work, I'll see if I can't dig up some of your posts that support this feeling.)

 

I know I'm town, and the other townies know they're town, and frankly, I'm one hell of a lightning rod of attention all game. What kind of idiotic, and frankly, maniac of a scum player do that? Clearly I was capable of "Slanking", like I did this weekend when I was busy as all hell, had I "slanked" and offered pot shots like Ed or Tig all week, you'd all be off fighting DPR, Darth, Dice or Heavy right now and not focusing so much attention on me.

So I posit you all one question. Imagine you're playing a game with Town! SD who's this magnificent lightning rod of scum attention, and you're Mafia. How might you use this to your advantage?

Oh damn, that's a bit WIFOM isn't it? And Turin's gonna call that distraction. 

Well shit.

[Turin Turambar]

1 minute ago, SinisterDeath said:

You're 1000% correct. Town doesn't know who's who, and the Mafia do. Yet I feel like you've fabricated connections that don't exist this entire game. (Maybe when I'm not busy at work, I'll see if I can't dig up some of your posts that support this feeling.)

 

I know I'm town, and the other townies know they're town, and frankly, I'm one hell of a lightning rod of attention all game. What kind of idiotic, and frankly, maniac of a scum player do that? Clearly I was capable of "Slanking", like I did this weekend when I was busy as all hell, had I "slanked" and offered pot shots like Ed or Tig all week, you'd all be off fighting DPR, Darth, Dice or Heavy right now and not focusing so much attention on me.

So I posit you all one question. Imagine you're playing a game with Town! SD who's this magnificent lightning rod of scum attention, and you're Mafia. How might you use this to your advantage?

Oh damn, that's a bit WIFOM isn't it? And Turin's gonna call that distraction. 

Well shit.

So, maybe explain your post in a way that makes sense that you could make the statement you did without having info about DPR. 

 

I don't think the "attention magnet" defense holds water. It just sounds like Appeal to Emotion. People aren't just picking on you. Ask questions. Don't try to dismiss concerns to people being against you. 

Do you think everyone sussing in you is mafia? If no, then who do you think it is? Why do you think that? Explain it in a way that makes sense. 

Good luck.

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count

 

SD (3) - Dice, Darthe, Turin

Darthe (2) - DPR, Heavy

 

Not Voting (3): Tig, Eddie, SD, 

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

 

Day 2 Deadline

[keyholder21]

Deadline is in 1 hour and 56 minutes.

[Turin Turambar]

It's like 2 hours to DL and nearly no one is here. 

 

Mafia, just shoot me tonight. 

[SinisterDeath]

2 minutes ago, keyholder21 said:

Deadline is in 1 hour and 56 minutes.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

It's tough. Sinister has been active, but in many ways hasn't engaged the game much. For one he has been dealing with a lot of people sussing him, so he has been repeating things, re-explaining things, etc. But for me he hasn't been engaging a lot in what people say, or taking sides or giving input to other people' s discussions. It feels town to me, seems strange mafia behaviour, but it could be obsfucating gameplay. Likr. Sinister had written a fair amount about me in his lists, but contentwise has said he thought I was acting like me at first, but it is a really tenuous town read and has been becoming more mafia as time goes on. I don't remember any discusión of what I've said or argued, I think there were a few claims I wasn't involved itt, but what ever another player's opinion of me was Sinister wouldn't ping them. As he had been so noncommital. And all the stuff about dice and tarot cards. 

 

But is it enough to waste our one shot on? Especially when to me he sounds pretty sincere... 

 

Except for Darthe's weird reaction and terrible case on me, I have nothing solid to go on at all. Which isn't helped by the only people discussing the game are Turin, DPR and Darthe to a great deal and who trusts any of them? Really had hoped more people would have come in and caught up by now. So much for any plan about roles, though that still seems to me to just filling in the blanks in the wolves' knowledge. 

[ed2funy]

5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

OK. I think that if the Doc can self protect they are more important than a vig. If Ed is the vig ( I'm not so sure) then he will get a shot tonight even if they kill him. He needs to kill a mafia if he shoots. 

The things about 1x and tomorrow track to me. Ed clearly stated he has more shots. That also tracks with my role which is sometimes limited but mine is not. 

Spec wise I think 4 roles is probably the max due to ranges ( I almost never expect the number to be at an extreme) and the fact that if not we've been extremely lucky that more roles haven't been offed in just collateral damage. Therefore claiming MIGHT?? be worth while. But everyone needs to be about to make it work properly imo. 

 

BTW, I still don't really trust you but I'm listening. 

 

5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

I am thinking about it. Right now I'm wondering if it might be best to have the VTs claim as such. Just to get the numbers straight which imo will help in determining veracity of claims. I could see mafia having a 1x strongman or something similar. Then Ed claiming gets him out of PoE because there is no vig to cc. I really wish he had shot SD because then the wagonomics from D1 are clearer. No use crying over spiled blood I guess.

I can only prove my role with mafia assistance. I don't think we are going to get it tbh. Maybe.

 

I will say this. If there is a Doc.

DO NOT PROTECT ME.

UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. 

Turin, I don’t like that you go from saying there’s probably 4 roles max, to them asking VTs to claim. By your guess, the rest of town is VT. meaning you’ve laid down the bed for all mafia to claim VT. 
 

how are you gonna evaluate claims if everyone else is going to claim VT? 

[SinisterDeath]

24 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

I don't think the "attention magnet" defense holds water. It just sounds like Appeal to Emotion.

From 5/18 at 6:37 am (for me) to now.
 

On 5/18/2025 at 6:37 AM, DPR said:

@dicetosser1 I’m looking at your vote on SD and I get that he’s drawn a lot of attention to himself with his kooky posts.  But he is the top poster out of the current group.

 

On 5/18/2025 at 6:52 AM, Turin Turambar said:

I think the way DPR treated SD puts them together firmly in my mind. This vote by Ed is really bad and the bounce is worse to me.

 

On 5/18/2025 at 7:06 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Maybe it is Darthe and you are cooking up the TWTBAW angle to save SD again.

 

On 5/18/2025 at 7:28 AM, Turin Turambar said:

For the record, I didn’t shoot anyone. If I would have had a shot I most likely would have shot SD as he was the other train when a townie got lynched. My other choice would have been DPR.  

 

On 5/18/2025 at 7:28 AM, Turin Turambar said:

You disagree with my PoV about his lunch? Explain yours. Every time someone asked you to explain your Peace vote you replied with disdain and something like "I've made myself clear". Mafia don't like to give reasons because they frequently are making stuff up and don't want to contradict themselves.  Kinda like you did with having SD as town all of D1.

 

On 5/18/2025 at 7:38 AM, DPR said:

Your 3rd post claims I “tipped the scales twice away from SD” 

 

This is just a gross misrep - there were never any scales to tip. The SD train started in the joke phase and never had any real momentum. I also have been clear about SD being on my town list the entire game. 

 

I started the Peace train with a real vote.  I switched briefly to Gabriel during the emo outburst and then switched back to Peace.

 

I pulled off for a matter of minutes to give dice a chance to catch up reading in case he had a reveal to make. As soon as he posted, I re-voted. 

 

This was all very clear and straightforward play. And SD was never in any real danger with Peace and Gabriel going off like they did. 

 

On 5/18/2025 at 10:48 AM, Darthe said:

Ima catch up later this evening but immediate thoughts are we need to evaluate SD further, we need to be careful about too many votes, and Turin/DPR you both gotta get off the topic of one another, can’t fragment right now.

 

On 5/18/2025 at 1:30 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

In that quote SD also defends me and also brings up DPR asking for info but not giving any. Hard to see this as any more than WIFOM instead of a connection. 

 

On 5/18/2025 at 1:40 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I'd say that is still implied, and would wolves so obviously defend each other? SD starts a long post with that, why not stick it somewhere in the middle? Why not deliberately make it the same wording as regards me? I mean I'm not saying it is impossible but it seems tenuous. Though there doesn't seem to be a lot to go on at the moment

 

On 5/18/2025 at 2:32 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced SD and DPR are 2 of our 3 mafias. I'm gonna take a break.

 

22 hours ago, DPR said:

I’ve also asked twice about your reasons for having SD as scum. Maybe you’re busy. Maybe you’re slanking. Either way, the clock is ticking

 

21 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And yet would it be any different if they were town and both were correctly sussing SD of being a wolf? 

 

But I really don't like this. Darthe is shooting down my criticism of Turin's fairly tenuous case against SD by making indirect criticism of me. If my inferences are precise and confident, shouldnt you be listening to them, even if you don't agree with them? You have me at a town read, but that will erode if I say anything with precision and confidence?

 

20 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

If you flip town, NAs notwithstanding we lose. But my suspicions would have to revert to SD and DPR most likely or the third case of wolves all slanking more or less. 

 

19 hours ago, DPR said:

I disagree with most of your points regarding Turin, SD and Heavy. I’m still making up my mind if you’ve been disingenuous. I’m open to conversation as we wait on the rest of the players to join us.

 

19 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

19 hours ago, DPR said:

Did you already explain your case on SD - I just need a nutshell. I know what I think I see, but there was that one time I was wrong 🤣

 

im currently ignoring you on this.

 

19 hours ago, DPR said:

And, I disagree with your case on SD, which I’ve explained. 

 

7 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Well I just woke up from my nap and I have some thoughts. Beware because there is some setup info And speculation here... spoilered because I talk.

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First this is the OP. It contains the setup info.

A note to start, my understanding was there was originally supposed to be 12 players with 9 townies. One was lost so I am guessing some balance alterations had to be made. There are 3 mafia with 1 or 2 prs. There was a cop so it's possible (maybe even likely) there was a Godfather. This is good news because that role is now wasted and mafia may not have any other roles. Ed has claimed vig so that would be 2 town roles if he is telling the truth. My understandingof role balance has vig as neutral,  possibly slightly better for mafia (Darthe and DPR have modded that i know of so correct me if im wrong), so adding a vig doesn't solve the balance issue. Maybe a mafia role got removed/nerfed. I guess we will see tonight if there are any surprises. I have a town role ( not doc, not LD lol), so that makes 3 for town (again assuming Ed is truly vig). I think a doc or some similar role is likely here even if it might not fit thematically. I'm really only including this because it colours my thought process so I hope it helps you understand my perspective. 

Anyway I have suspicions on everyone but some are more tinfoil than anything. 

@ed2funy: (claimed vig) I would feel better about him if he had shot SD because that would have been better info wise. I saw him say he followed Peace on his shot. I want to see Eds take on both of those players. Also not a fan of his EoD1. 

@Darthe: I really don't like him jumping out to in his words hijack the game. His stating that he was 90% on SD with a little Ed sus only to nearly immediately go squirrel on Heavy sketches me the fluff out. Also his shushing my back and forth with DPR today was a bit odd. 

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade: I've been mostly leaning town here but there are occasional things that have struck me weird. I think there were some SD defense that seemed odd and his sitting on the sidelines at EoD was striking. i neee to look at his reads more.

@Tigraine: not as present as I would like. I understand there is a lot of RL going on for her right now so I'm trying to work past it. I don't understand the viewpoint that saying you are town is not town. I mean everybody's town here right? I can see not giving cred for it but citing it as a negative I don't follow. Her EoD was somewhat concerning as well. It felt like she was never gonna vote anyone other than Peace but just held off for some reason. I dunno, why though?? 

@dicetosser1: I don't like overly grumpy Dice. It feels like a smokescreen. There was a point at EoD he flat out said he wasnt voting SD and now today he is firmly convinced that SD is mafia. Feels like a bus situation. It is worse for me because he has tried to link me with SD and intends to vote me tomorrow on a SD flip. I fully expect at some point today he will flip his vote to me if there is any chance to get me lynched even though he has no real case. He admitted as much at EoD and his attempt to link me to SD is flimsy as fluff.

@SinisterDeath: I've said quite a bit already. The lack of real commitment to any take. His TMI defense of DPR (regardless of DPRs alignmealignment is more so.im not gonna rehash all of it here.

@DPR: He didn't have SD as town all day. In fact he had him 1 spot out of his mafia group which is a common place for mafia to.place a teammate so they can sus some but not have to vote. He has constantly asked people to define their case on SD but wasn't willing to do the same for Peace saying things like "I've been clear". To me it is likely he is afraid he will contradict himself again. He has also been doing the "negging" thing that I associate with strong rep players when they role mafia. Tom was the one I remember it most from. Putting themselves above the fray. Calling play bad or dumb or garbage. If my take is bad then I think people will figure it out on their own. Thus last thing I just thought of during my nap (where I again dreamed of lunching large wolves). He has changes his arguments of why he had SD town more than once trying to find something that will resonate. He is changing because he doesn't really believe it himself. It's the same reason he contradicted himself when sussing me in the same sentence was both mafia and bad town. The nastiness was also apparent in his posts from beginning of today. That nastiness he said he uses as mafia.

 

Anyway  this is too long by half so sorry.

 

Right now I'm convinced that SD and DPR are mafia. My current thought is Dice is the third but don't really trust anyone right now. The fact nothing happened while I typed this thing is frankly alarming to me.

 

5 hours ago, Darthe said:

6 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

OK, let's not argue about whether your tone is out of your normal range. I am obviously working on a very small subset of your games.

 

But this does not explain why you have squirreled on me and responded with such frustration and desperation when I pointed out that there seemed to be a slimy connection between you and Turin. It doesn't explain why you went from being 90% certain you weren't voting for me to throwing an OMGUS vote at me. It doesn't explain why when explaining to DPR that you didn't hold Turin's case making against him (though obviously if you are calling the DPR/Turin spat T/T you aren't agreeing with it either) that you throw in "Heavy is constantly wrong" or why you think I'm only believable as town as a bad player. Saying things with precision and confidence is what you are accusing me of, yet seem very unconcerned about what I am saying with precision and confidence. 

 

Finally, you also seem to be completely ignoring that I have a meta as well - every game I have been hit by accusations of "inconsistent tone", of making observations that are too astute, of playing like a noob and a pro interchangeably. In the first game, Zander tried to eliminate me as he believed I was lying about it being my first game. Yet your case relies entirely on me being a noob who does not know how to play, ignoring that there are enough players in the game that know that this is not true. Or at least, it isn't the whole story.

 

My "case" on you was minimal and sketchy, largely based on a feeling I could not shake that you and Turin were working together in an underhand way. You just seemed to keep doing this so I voted, and we get this way over the top reaction. DPR voted for you and you are calmly discussing the game with him, whereas with me you seem to have completely upset the apple cart of what your gameplan was, and you sound really really annoyed. 

 

I don't have explanation for this, and your case on me is thinner than threadbare. "Kill him, he sounds too good for a noob" hardly great reasoning to undertake an action that will almost certainly lose town the game.

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A couple things worth pulling out of here.  I love how 90% I’m voting SD got turned into you said youre 90% not voting me.  These last two posts together, while I’m being accused of desperation, clearly display that heavy hates the sus pulled.  The reaction is so natural, double down when you don’t know how to back out.  Fling what you can at the other person.

 

5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

I really wish he had shot SD because then the wagonomics from D1 are clearer. No use crying over spiled blood I guess.

 

4 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

We can multi task. Make a case. We're still here.  I'm still mostly convinced I'm right about SD and DPR but I do think the VT claim idea has some merit if every is willing and can make it happen quickly in real time. Like everyone present.  Then .1.2.3 VT claims go. Everyone has like a minute. If it is dribble dribble then it has less merit as slackers will slank with purpose. 

 

3 hours ago, Darthe said:

Today has been such a headache.  I’m right too much for y’all to give me so little credit, so going back to the bases here.  Lynch SD, resolve from there.

 

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

If one is no and two is yes, would you be willing  to double vote SD today?

The way I see it, so many of your connections are going to be shattered when I flip town. 😄

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

But dude how do all those quotes and all the effort help anything? You were the D1 train that survived. Your still a person of interest for many people. Of course people are mentioning you, not least as there are only 8 players left. 

 

How does this show that the attention is just because and not due to grounded reasoning? It is taking up space in the thread, but not actually doing anything. 

 

Who are you suspicious of, in terms of wtl? 

[Turin Turambar]

11 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

 

Turin, I don’t like that you go from saying there’s probably 4 roles max, to them asking VTs to claim. By your guess, the rest of town is VT. meaning you’ve laid down the bed for all mafia to claim VT. 
 

how are you gonna evaluate claims if everyone else is going to claim VT? 

I think that if no one else claims then I'm more likely to believe your claim and somewhat more likely to believe DPR. There can only be one more person period to claim a town role until we have too many. Then there has to be discussion about who believed what. I had hoped we would have had more time to discuss. But people haven't showed up. 

Key stated in the OP thattown consists of 8 players with 2-5 power roles.

GK is confirmed cop

You claimed vig

DPR claimed JOAT (cop, rb,double vote,jailkeep)

I claimed ???

There can only be 1 more before someone is confirmed lying. 

 

The remaining players are heavy,  SD, Dice, Tig ,and Darthe. If they all say they are vt then I think we are legit. At least for today and we lynch from the vt pool. You also shoot from that pool. If that doesn't go awfully then we get 1 or maybe even 2 mafia. Even if one of us dies tonight, I think we are ahead of the game. 

[Turin Turambar]

22 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

From 5/18 at 6:37 am (for me) to now.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The way I see it, so many of your connections are going to be shattered when I flip town. 😄

 

Well if you flip town we're hanging by a thread. It still my best choice. 

[ed2funy]

5 hours ago, DPR said:

Am I reading this correctly? You want the VT’s to claim because that will help you determine the veracity of claims?? 
 

How does that work when all the wolves will claim VT? And anyone that doesn’t is outed as a PR? 
 

I’m gonna do a fast self-check to make sure I didn’t have a stroke that choked all the oxygen from my brain…

Literally lol 

[Ithillian Turambar]

53 minutes till end of Day 2

[Turin Turambar]

Well if you don't like it then we won't bother. Who you wtl, Ed?

[keyholder21]

Deadline is in 53 minutes.

[Turin Turambar]

Stop pressuring us mods!!! Geez

So pushy,  lolololololol 

Spoiler

Kidding. Thanks for keeping up

 

[SinisterDeath]

6 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

But dude how do all those quotes and all the effort help anything? You were the D1 train that survived. Your still a person of interest for many people. Of course people are mentioning you, not least as there are only 8 players left. 

 

How does this show that the attention is just because and not due to grounded reasoning? It is taking up space in the thread, but not actually doing anything. 

 

Who are you suspicious of, in terms of wtl? 

Let me put it this way. 

 

Let's assume I believe Ed and DPR's role claims and that puts them as townies.

That leaves: Dice, Darthe, Turin, Tig, Heavy. 3 of you are wolves, right?

Dice looked to be distancing himself pretty well against DPR, but now that DPR has role claimed, I imagine he's going to be sucking up to DPR in the near future.

Tigs - When she's here, I feel we're getting some decent scum hunting, but then she goes awol so it's hard to get anything solid out of her. It could go either way.

Darthe's been.. Well Darthe. (Still waiting for his reply to my post. lol to see his reaction before I really put him on a 3 person WTL)

I've still got my eye on Turin, and that's if you put a gun to my head head right now? And told me to make a 3 person WTL out of those 6 minus DPR and Ed? I get the 3 below. 
Turin
Darthe
Heavy

 

Even then. I'm only 50/50 everyone on that list.

I can see a Wolf Turin doing the exact same thing a Town Turin is doing right now, same with Darthe.

 

A Heavy Wolf? I still don't know. He's coming off more Townie the last few pages now, but I hesitate to swap him and dice on this 3 person WTL.