Harry Potter (...everyone dies) *SPOILERS*

[Cadsuane]

I have many random things to say, so I'm not going to try and put them together in any particular way. I liked it, much better than 6.

 

I'm soooo glad Dumbledore stayed dead! I sort of expected him to come back, especially with the discussions of the Hallows, but I didn't want him to.

 

There was one scene where they discuss bringing people back from the dead, but it being as though they were behind a veil, and all I could think about was Sirius and the curtain in the dept Of Mysteries.

 

Dobby's death is the only one that really saddened me while reading, I'm not sure why. I think it's partly because so many of the others were rushed, and then not mourned in the same way. I feel like deaths aren't sad simply because they happen, but because we see how they affect those still alive, and we didn't get a lot of that, since Harry always had some other really important thing to do right away.

 

Seeing further into Snape's character was great, even if it was all at once instead of bit by bit. I knew he was "good"! I think he asked Harry to look at him just before he died so that he could see Lily's eyes gazing at him once more. Somewhere else I read people thought it meant he wanted Harry to see him, but I think he could care less what Harry thought about him. He took care of Harry because of what he felt for Lily, not what he felt for Harry.

 

I thought the epilogue was completely pointless, as it was written. I think she could have left it out, or should have expanded it, since it didn't really reveal anything we didn't already know was going to happen (certain marriages, having children and naming them after people who died, etc.). 

 

I am I the only one who thought the Diadem might have been the wedding tiara?

No, I thought of that as well. I'm sort of glad it wasn't, because that would have been just a little bit too easy, IMO.

[Alys Kinch]

Harry not be a Horcrux?! I can't believe they would have discredited it. All through the book I was "yelling" at them for only saying 6. Dumbledore made it quite certain in 6 that there would be 7 because of the magical significance of the number.

 

And dear, brave Neville. Kind of makes you proud.

[callandor]

i didnt really care when colin creevy died. he didn't really add anything but a supid camera.

[loki redfern]

but he was cute. and in the DA. and maybe the fact that he was too young and shoulnt have been there

[Majsju]

The only death that upset me was Dobby, he was just to sweet and kind to die.

 

And I was a little disappointed about Snapes death, my favourite character, he deserved to go out in a grander way than that.

 

 

[bcxanth]

I'm stuck at work so don't have the book with me. Hopefully one of you can help refresh my memory. When that one goblin stole the sword in Gringotts, how did they get it back for Neville to use on Nagini?

[Alys Kinch]

The same way that Harry got it in the Chamber of Secrets. By being a true Gryffindor. Don't forget what Bill told Harry when he was concerned about what they were planning with the goblin.

[Niamh Sedai]

I think JKR was making a point with Snape's death though. She was demonstrating that even for those who Voldemort considered his true followers, he was willing to kill them in the same way he would kill an enemy. For Voldemort there is no distinction in how people deserve to die.

 

And I agree about the eyes. He wanted to see Lily looking at him one last time =)

[Beckon]

Harry not be a Horcrux?! I can't believe they would have discredited it. All through the book I was "yelling" at them for only saying 6. Dumbledore made it quite certain in 6 that there would be 7 because of the magical significance of the number.

 

And dear, brave Neville. Kind of makes you proud.

 

Hehe yeah there's a lot of people eating crow right now who spent the last two years going "Harry a horcrux?! That's absolutely ridiculous!!"

 

And yes, sooo proud of Neville.  I've always known he would find himself in the end.  :) 

[loki redfern]

i dont think that means that snape didnt care about harry though, if he was just doing it for lily he proally would have been nice to the kid

[MsDanya]

 

 

I am I the only one who thought the Diadem might have been the wedding tiara?

 

 

nope! I thought so too! kept telling Harry to realise it until I realised that it wasnt the weddingtiara :-X

[Yelenia]

I also considered the wedding tiara, since she made such a big deal about it  ::)

 

The more I think about it, the more frustrated I get with Tonks and Lupin. it seems like one of the two could have taken a less 'front line' position...especially since they just had a kid n'all >_<

 

 

I also think that with Snape, it was seeing both Harry and Lily, for different reasons. Seeing the ones you've sacrificed your life for n'all that.

[Cadsuane]

Yelenia, your sig is gorgeous.  :)

[Beckon]

I also think that with Snape, it was seeing both Harry and Lily, for different reasons. Seeing the ones you've sacrificed your life for n'all that.

 

I agree.  There is a bit when Harry is watching Snape's memories where Dumbledore asks Snape if he cares for Harry (or something like that - I've lent my book to a co-worker and can't look it up) and Snape answers "always".  I think that it's part of Snape's growth as a person over the years that his change of sides began as a selfish desire to keep Lily around and evolved into genuine love for her and concern for Harry.  His treatment of Harry is more a reflection of his anger and resentment toward James. 

[Alys Kinch]

Soooo... anyone wanna tell how they feel about Percy's sudden arrival in the end? I kind of feel that it was corny. If she was going to do that, she should have hinted in the elevator at the Ministry. It isn't that Percy's an idiot, just that he's ambitious enough to be blind. I just can't decide what I think about it.

 

In a way, I think that the Snape thing may be a way of satisfying all the readers. He was good only because of Lily. You get your choice in how to really feel about him deep down. Of course, it may have been planned all along.

[Niamh Sedai]

The Percy thing made me happy! Only because I thought he was going to die. And then she killed off Fred! *shakes fist*

[Safir]

Some of the book was a little predictable to me.  Hedwigs death, Mad-Eyes death, one of the twins death.  And though I expected Dobby to die, I kept re-reading that part to see if my mind was playing tricks on me.  When Harry made that passage "Here lies Dobby, a free elf" or something to that extend...*sigh*  That really did it for me.  I was a little depressed after that.  lol

 

Neviles Grandma is kickass!

 

And who else besides me wanted to wring Auntie Muriel's neck?

[Cadsuane]

I watched a bit of the JK Rowling interview on the Today show this morning, and she told us that in the time of the epilogue, Harry and Ron have "revolutionized" the Auror business, and Hermione is probably quite high up in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement. There was one other thing she said that I wanted to report, but now I can't remember what it was...  :P

[Yelenia]

If she'd given herself just a few more pages she could have let us know that aaand not made it feel so rushed  >:(

[Lanthirrhos]

Does any of that really matter tho? why put in all those things when they really have nothing to do with the story? The Epiloge isn't there to intoduce new characters, or to go into detail about what happened later. It was there to Give a little fulfilment knowing that Harry and Ginny, and Ron and Hermione married(face it, if the book didn't SAY it you'd all be complaining). Just for a little extra, she added the kids, and it was a great way to show that Harry had forgiven both Dumbledore ans Snape. thats the real reason it was there. It wasn't rushed, it was just there for that purpose and no others. :P ;)

[Cadsuane]

She did say she'd written a much more detailed epilogue, but that it didn't work, so she cut it down until she was happy with it.

 

EDIT: Here's some things she had to say about what happens after book 7

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

 

[Toman Zahere]

I've only just realised about the upgraded forum because I wondered why anyone hadn't started a Harry Potter thread  :-[

 

I really really enjoyed the book. I lined up at a local store, got my free copy (paid for by a rewards scheme here in NZ) at 11.01 am and had it read by noon the next day, which is fast for me. I'm still waiting to be able to discuss with someone else, as know one I know has read it yet.

 

I was pleased with all the deaths, as I felt it gives the story a bit more realism. I never thought JK would kill of Harry, Ron, or Hermione, or though Harry sort of died (must say the WOT prophecy went through my mind during this sequence). Most of the deaths were passed on like a news item and didn't have the emotional hit. It was a bit sad for both Lupin and Tonks to be killed as they were now happy together. I'd seen mentioned on another forum how they thought this mirrored Harry's situation. Dobby's death was sad because he'd been so loyal to Harry and would have done anything for Harry.

 

I was glad to see Dumbledore was actually dead. I still had a little sneaky feeling that he was going to miraculously reappear. I liked how we got to see Dumbledore as being human with faults just like everyone else and how Harry resolved his feelings about him in the train station scene.

 

Loved Molly Weasley taking on Bellatrix. It was unexpected and one of the great bits of the book. Also the under-estimation of Neville's grandmother by the deatheaters.

 

As to Harry not killing Voldemort himself, I would have been really disappointed if he'd done the avara kedavra curse on Voldy because it had never been in his character to kill. The backfire curse was the ultimate payback as Voldy had always under-estimated Harry, thinking he knew more about magic and power when really he was nothing than the little boy still in the orphanage terrorising his fellow inmates.

 

I've seen some express their dislike of the epilogue but I thought it was nice. If it hadn't been there I would have wanted more, at least what happened straight after Voldy died. It was also a huge signal to say there won't be another book  :(

 

I felt content after finishing the book but I've been feeling down ever since. I know this is how I'm going to feel after RJ finishes the WOT. At least we the last two movies to look forward too  :)

[loki redfern]

thats a though..after WOT finishes we can all start a proper campaign to get them in to film, i mean , obviously it would be a love hate thing as the is likly to be so much bthat would have to be missed out..but still the coolness of it would totally outweigh that

[Lanthirrhos]

Yeah, Dumbledore actually being humaned down was the most interesting bit of the story, i mean, action is good and all, but when you really look beyond that... i think that that whole Dumbledore line takes the top.

 

hehe, Hate to say it... but i'd hate WoT movies... well, i'd support the making of them, and watch them, but they wouldn't live up. Kinda that way with the HP movies too... :-\ Altho they do a decent job.... but Goblet of Fire... they took out 5 important characters, and atleast the first 50 pages of the book!

[loki redfern]

i hope that last bit isnt an order :P

 

yeh they wouldnt be any good at all, but you know you'd want to see them :D, even the LotR films are crap reative to the books, but you still would choose to have them then them never to have been made, and it would be nice to see every one with WoT fever and be sitting there smug and thinking, 'yeah, i was here all along, even before the film..look how much better i am then those johnny come lateltys' 8), much like any of us that were reading harry potter before the films (to relate this to the topic at hand)