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Posted

@Ithillian Turambar actually I remembered what you asked that I never answered, lol. When I was talking about DPR and the bigger picture you seemed to think I was talking about if DPR was mafia or not. I meant how he was interacting with his teammates or how they were working together for shared goals by "bigger picture".

 

I'm sure you don't care or even remember, but never let it be said I leave these things unaddressed.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Un Official Vote Count by Ithi

Heavy - (3/6) Dice, Nyn, Zander

Tig (2/6): Ithi, DPR

Key - (1/6) Heavy


Not Voting
Marsh2, Verb, Key, Tig

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Countdown to EOD

 

Ok that should be ok then.  

Posted
On 4/22/2025 at 10:35 AM, Tigraine said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

This whole thing completely reads scummy af. 

 

It's obvious Dice was claiming an important town role. But you wouldn't stop until he said which one...fine, I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that one.

 

But the rest of that exchange literally reads as 1) you're spamming the thread with excuses of why you may or may not be available to unvote. 2) said spamming is doing nothing except making it harder for anyone trying to hurry and decide about a vote because they have to read what form of transportation you're currently using. 3) it reads to me like you're making those excuses to buy time.  The only reason I can figure you'd want to do that is you're waiting for your scummy buddies to give you input. So you covered yourself by teetering back and forth on whether you'll be available at any given moment. 

 

Just based on pages 26-28, I'm almost positive you're scum.  Unless you're really new to mafia...idk.

 

Someone hints at an important town role, idk how you go from being absolutely unwilling to unvote dice to sure I'll vote Marsh.  

 

Just wanted to get that out there.  

 

 

 

To all those that have asked, specifically @keyholder21 this was my original post about sus of Rand on EoD1. As I've said, since he flipped Doc, it doesn't look good for me but my sus wasn't because he said the unCCd cop as @HeavyHalfMoonBlade keeps saying.  I elaborate later as well.

 

I'm also still waiting on Heavy to tell me how I've been pro DPR but he hasn't answered the question that I've seen.  We know he doesn't like to post proof of his reasoning so I'm guessing I'll never see it 🤷‍♀️

 

 

On 4/22/2025 at 10:40 AM, Verbal32 said:

 

100% misrep

 

I didn't tunnel Ithi - I just called out how she wasn't considering Marsh as town.  If you read my WTL, it had you and Dice.  I added her afterwards.

 

So, a surprise vote for somebody I had sussed in my first reads post?  Actually, he was literally the first sus I had all game (his bowing to Key).

 

Try harder.

 

Verbal to DPR

On 4/22/2025 at 10:43 AM, Verbal32 said:

 

Goofy shit =/= what I'm saying Marsh did.  Him casing Heayy is literally the definition of solving.

 

Who are you trying to fool here?  This is amazing to read how you keep bouncing in every direction.

 

Also to DPR...notice the bold

On 4/22/2025 at 12:00 PM, Tigraine said:

I see it that yes, town would explain that they're in the process of heading home so service will be spotty.  But I also see it that doing it in one liner posts mixed in with the serious direct questions is way too chaotic to be advantageous to you or the rest of us. 

 

 

Yes, but it is also what someone trying to stress their importance without outright claiming would do as well.

 

Just like the way you handled the situation could be viewed as extremely town or extremely scum. 

 

My biggest issue is that with the soft claiming, it would've made him a target for the real cop if he isn't the cop.  The actual cop could then argue points on Day 2 to get Dice tossed.  As it was Day 1, there was time to step back and go another direction which would give a little time for us to determine if he was legit. 

 

 

 

 

 

More on my sus of Rand.  As i said, there's more to it than anyone showed later in their posts.  I'm showing this to explain why I've been saying it all game.  

 

I've finally reach end of night 1 so I'll be posting how I think DPR flip flopped.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

Here Tigs is using other people's thoughts. She even asks Marsh to go back to his previous life lol.

 

l going on about the Does Turin love mechanics thing. But also posting about who Turin suspected at the time. Cos Turin makes good points... but Turin is now Marsh and she voted for Marsh.

 

How is it "using other people's thoughts" to ask where thwy stand now on something they previously posted?

 

For the 2nd paragraph, this is NOTHING about game mechanics.  I was pointing out that he made some good points and wondered if he ever talked about how he still felt on the Verbal/Heavy teammate perspective.

 

i wanna say nice try with that last one but it wasnt in the least.

 

 

1 hour ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

Now go back in time a bit.

 

 

 

and today she has Heavy back at the top of her suss list and is even saying that the Turin/marsh spot had good reads.

 

When i was reading through all that i saw that Nyn had already asked her who she thought was town, so im glad that was a good question to ask Heavy too.

 

She says she won't vote Dice, because of his claim. She thinks maybe I am Town. Key she doesn't know about. She forgot all about Verbal lmao... 

 

I'd like to point out that her reason for unvoting Eddie was that, he's going to die anyways...

 

I can go check that in a bit, but I'm afraid I will lose all that I have done so far.

 

So initially super neutral. Making statements about what is happening rather than giving opinions. Seeming to follow along with other people's opinions rather than giving their own. Voting for someone and then saying the person she voted for had good suspects/reasons.

 

Saying her biggest suspect was Heavy. Voted for Marsh when he possibly was gonna catch some heat and then unvoted when that was a non starter. 

 

It's just a big long list of not wanting to be coming down firmly one way or the other.

 

 

Turin's reads early were good points.  As I've stated,  I'm still curious bout Turins information but literally no one sees this as sus so it's a waste of time to focus on it atp.

 

I unvoted Ed because he claimed and I wanted to talk it out with everyone.  But the "he's gonna die anyway" remark was in regards to the fact that he would've still been hammered since he had the highest votes iirc.  Stop making the statement something it's not.

 

As I've said....numerous times....I voted for Marsh because I believe I found a slip by Turin early on.  And you're right, it was a non starter.  So how do you find it scummy that "going on about the Turin loves mechanics stuff" yet also find it scummy that I backed off the vote when I realized it was going to do ZERO good to push when no one else thought anything of it???

 

And yes, as i was rereading, I did state Turin made some good points. So what?  Doesn't mean I'm not still suspicious of what I said I'm suspicious of.

 

Please show me where I go off of other people's thoughts?!?!

 

This is a VERY poor attempt hoping people will do what they always do and just take your word for it and not verify it for themselves 

 

 

  • RP - PLAYER
Posted

@TigraineI've been super-sensitive to any DPR content, so I doubt that I misread anything that you were saying regarding him. However, I also don't have any note of it, and I'm not searching back for it, and I'm questioning its validity, so I will happily concede the point now as irrelevant if not disproven.

 

And as you are still obviously sore about the Rand thing, please let me try to explain again.

 

I did not say you sussed him because he saved Dice. I said you sussed him despite him saving Dice. 

 

Even if we accept Rand was as scummy as could possibly be imagined with his one-liners and "I don't believe you" posts, if we assume he was mafia, we would have to accept that a mafia player was interacting with a cop claimee without stringing him up. Especially your claim that he should have picked up on the hints earlier, makes zero sense in terms of AI. If he was a wolf and had picked up them he would have "gone in a tunnel" or run out of charge or whatever while there was plausible deniability. In no world would a mafia player stay online saying, "what are you saying Dice, time is running short" if they understood that Dice was hinting at a PR in town. It just doesn't not matter how scummy Rand was, the fact that Dice did not get eliminated says enough. Rand being scummy while failing to eliminate Dice does not make any sense to me at all, and the fact that you were so eager to argue the opposite really stood out for me. Maybe this is my failing, but that is how it is. Something that I thought should be obvious, you took a diametrically opposite view on. And with hindsight, my position has only become stronger. 

 

Can you understand what I am saying? 

 

Just trying to set everything right before I need to shake off this mortal coil, lol, but I feel you are still annoyed at me, and I really would like to make my position clear while I still can.

  • RP - PLAYER
Posted

And as a negative point on Turin/Marsh - before he discontinued his Verb attack (though obviously there are other things at play there) I pointed out how shaky any attack on someone would be that rested on my wolf equity if just a few moments before the person making said attack had declined to vote me out of the game. No idea if this had an effect, but I do think it was weird how I was not a worthy target of elimination, but making a case against Verb based on Heavy being a scummy teammate, was worthwhile. That is exactly the kind of wolfy behaviour I was arguing against in my Oscar winning plea. Which I have to say if you are looking for archetypal town behaviour, surely that kind of advice ranks higher than DPr's arrogance and memery? 

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Posted
13 hours ago, DPR said:


Who’s your best guess for RB’er? 
 

I don’t think it’s Heavy - he’d have been muzzled. 

 

I haven't given any thought to individual roles - just scum or not.

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Posted
2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Verbal - Seems to be making sense, agree mostly with him about DPR, in his arguments with players like Turin he seems to be have at worst a reasonable position. Nothing has pinged me about his play. Not liking how he has slanked off as things are heating up.

 

wut

 

I took one day off.  One.  You're lucky I don't have a gun in this game.  The JNer in me would shoot you just for saying something this ridiculous.

  • RP - PLAYER
Posted
1 minute ago, Verbal32 said:

 

wut

 

I took one day off.  One.  You're lucky I don't have a gun in this game.  The JNer in me would shoot you just for saying something this ridiculous.

Tigraine forgot you were playing the game but you would shoot me? Ih8u more.

Posted
On 4/22/2025 at 10:46 PM, DPR said:

 

if you’re the Cop, and you got a “no result”, that would point toward the mafia roleblocker blocking your action. 
 

okay

 

But there was no nightkill, so we’re assuming the doc protected you and blocked the nk. 
 

okay 


So dice, as Cop, is RB’d, and also Doc’d. 
 

And Verb is no result. 
 

Here’s my question: 

 

I get where the Doc had no choice but to protect the Cop claim… 

 

But why would the mafia waste a shot on someone they knew would be protected? 

And if they were shooting at a Cop, why not use the Strongman shot? 
 

Maybe @RandA lThor can help us with this? 

 

 

 

Here he is asking for opinions on why we had no NK.  Based on later posts it seems like it make have been rhetorical but I didn't catch it at that time (could be wrong about it still)

 

On 4/22/2025 at 10:49 PM, Tigraine said:

I hate to point out the obvious but, Dice isn't the only one that's called you scum for your behavior at EoD.  And I gotta say, you doing the "biggest concrete town" spiel just brings me back to how scummy you look. 

 

Maybe Dice is the cop, maybe not...it's something we're going to have to figure out.  But just because you feel you should've looked town with your behavior and continuously point out how town it looked, doesn't mean everyone agrees.  

 

More of my argument against Rand.  Which again, isn't for saving the unCCd cop 🙄

On 4/22/2025 at 10:50 PM, Tigraine said:

Maybe to convince us to lynch our cop?

 

To me, I could've seen it happening.  A lot of people disagreed and actually. Used it to sus me.  One in particular  (ithi??) Said they didn't like the lining up of next day lynched etc. (Weird though because they didn't jump on it as sus when someone else done it...maybe Rand)

 

On 4/22/2025 at 10:52 PM, DPR said:


keep reading… all the way through now

 

To me this was vague and unhelpful.  I kept reading and still didn't catch anything. Again, maybe it what the rhetorical part of it...still not sure

On 4/22/2025 at 10:53 PM, Tigraine said:

And if the towniest town since the creation of town really is town, we'd be hard pressed not to lynch him if Dice in fact turns out to be the Cop 

 

Just answering questions, having a discussion on possible scenarios, trying to problem solve. 

 

On 4/22/2025 at 10:53 PM, DPR said:

And take into account all of the possible role possibilities. 
 

Have fun kids, lol

 

Still vague.  I get that no one wants to hold hands and walk people through the obvious...but I'm not the only one that didn't seem to get it. How is that helpful for town?

On 4/22/2025 at 10:55 PM, Tigraine said:

Again, to convince us that Dice isn't the Cop and line Rand up fir next day lynch.

 

Unless you're referring to the question directed at Rand and if that's the case, idk what that's supposed to tell me 

 

Showing that reading all the way through didn't clear it up for me

 

On 4/22/2025 at 11:04 PM, Tigraine said:

I'm obviously in need of sleep because I'm not seeing anything that disproves it.

 

I'll read back over your responses in the morning, maybe I'm just not seeing it.

 

DPR, why use the 1x strong arm to kill someone that they can block?  Seems like it would be a waste.   I feel that leaving us to question all of this because literally no one can be confirmed town would create way more chaos that having some actual information...even if it's just a vanilla townie.  

 

Again, maybe it's my tired brain talking.  I'll see how I feel about it after the brats to school....I mean the kids.  

 

Admitting I have no clue wtf is happening 

On 4/22/2025 at 11:28 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

This is not solid logic.  Scum would not shoot the same person they RBed - they would just use the strongman.  You mention that after.  It tells me a few potential things:

 

 - Dice has bad reads, and therefore scum are content to let him live and just RB him (if he's Cop)

 - Doc protected elsewhere and blocked the scum NK (NAI for Dice)

 - Doc might have thought it a waste to protect a Cop that would be dead if scum want them dead

 

If Dice is Cop, then this is our best-case scenario.  He was RBed, but Doc blocked the NK (wherever it went).

 

If Dice is not Cop, then he knows he's dead once actual Cop reveals or turns up dead.

 

 

 

 

While I think Dice could have played D1 better, he's very possibly our Cop and hopefully we can shake him loose for some views (aka kill that damn RBer).

 

Verbal trying to figure it out...

On 4/23/2025 at 2:38 AM, Turin Turambar said:

First Dice, your recount of EoD is incorrect.  It's small but important. 

Correct  chain of events.

You do some hinting

Rand VOTES you (4-4)

More hinting 

Marsh votes you (5-4)

You claim cop

Rand makes disbelief post which he say was ninja by your claim.

Rand VOTES DPR  (vote now 4-4-2)

Verb UNVOTES (now 4 marsh-3you-2DPR...If Verb VOTES DPR instead it would be 4-3-3. You then could have voted DPR yourself to make him the lynch. Marsh could have tied it again as well)

Rand VOTES Marsh ( final VC 5-3-1)

 

So the vote of DPR by Rand was not bad in itself. It might have been possible to flip the vote if Verb and you were  quicker. Or if you had claimed quicker.

 

Rand, your moving off the claimed cop isn't the townies thing ever. It's risk analysis that you would have had time for seeing Dice hinting for.minutes. you might have been able to talk your way out of it but I think the chances would be low. Especially after your disbelief post came out on the heels of Dice's claim.

 

Proving yet again that I'm not the only one that sussed rands EoD activities. 

On 4/23/2025 at 4:47 AM, Turin Turambar said:

It could also mean they didn't fully believe Dice's claim so hedged their bet. RB'd to ensure he couldn't get a result if he is cop, and a regular shot in case doc doesn't protect due to not having a better option. Or they could have targeted someone else entirely and got doc'd or shot at the hider. Either way until someone comes forward to cc Dice, he's off the table and discussing his is a waste of time imo.

 

Turin is trying to figure out what happened N1.

On 4/23/2025 at 7:57 AM, DPR said:

Town needs to focus and simplify: 

 

I see no world where the mafia holstered - whoever said that is just trying to muddy the water. 
 

I see no world where the doc didn’t cover dice last night. Anyone suggesting this is just trying to muddy the water. 
 

I see no world where Towndice false claimed cop. That would run the risk of having the real cop cc, which would be a disaster.

 

These things are just common sense, no?  The mafia knows all of this. 
 

Given the above, I see no world where mafia doesn’t use their strongman shot to kill dice. 
 

That would mean mafiadice has false claimed  cop and the mafia team shot at someone that was either the hider, who was hiding, or the condemner, who’s bpv blocked the shot.

 

I’m open to having missed something, but the above just seems obvious. 

 

Now he's pooping on everyone's ideas after asking what could've caused it. 

 

 

On 4/23/2025 at 8:34 AM, Turin Turambar said:

You lack vision. Just because you cant see it, doesn't mean it cant be. People play hunches on NAs all the time. The best players frequently don't follow the playbook.

 

I said it. I don't think that acknowledging all options is  muddying the waters. I stated the possibility but essentially dismissed it immediately. 

The doc not covering Dice is not so clear. Maybe the doc doesn't believe Dice or didn't think they could stop the Strongman. Maybe the mafia flat out didn't believe him, because if thats the case then they wouldn't have shot at him. You are sounding like salty mafia your kill didn't go through for some reason you dont understand. 

Your conclusion that Dice is mafia faking cop means there is a real Cop out there probably with some sort of a result as it would be blind luck for mafia to have blocked them. 

 

This whole post by you is one big steaming pile of WIFOM. 

 

I had high hopes and now I’m crushed.

 

On 4/23/2025 at 8:52 AM, DPR said:


How is this an about face? And the points  I’ve made have nothing to do with Rand - they are just an effort to be clear. 
 

Town needs clarity to move forward effectively. I’ve put some very basic views out there and it’s up to you to decide if you agree or not, but this should be based on logic - not what-ifs or personal feelings. 

 

Then why ask for possibilities in the first place??

 

On 4/23/2025 at 8:58 AM, DPR said:


Think about what you just said… 

 

I lack vision. Do you really believe that? 
 

Hunches, what-ifs, speculation and everything else is always going to muddy the water
 

Don’t talk yourself out of making sense. I’ve put my views on the table. You can see them however you like, but I challenge you to say any of them isn’t likely and tell me what outcome is more likely. 
 

Leave your childish ways behind. Go with what makes sense and let that be a foundation to build on. Mafia 101 here. 

 

On 4/23/2025 at 9:50 AM, DPR said:


I am busy lol, so less time to post. 
 

As for the reread, I’d rather people read it and make their own observations. Not trying to be enigmatic, just fair. 

 

In regards to the infamous "page 32"

Hes back to wanting other peoples views...what happened to keeping to the facts and not using personal feelings?

On 4/23/2025 at 9:51 AM, Verbal32 said:

@DPR

 

You have been super inconsistent this game.  Right now you're even keel, but yesterday you were acting like an overstimulated child.

 

And now you seem to be coming around to the same mindset I've had all game.  It feels super weird.

 

Verbal sees that DPR is all over the place

On 4/23/2025 at 9:59 AM, Verbal32 said:

 

???

 

Btw, re-read p32.  Mostly it is the discussion a few people had with Dice around the unvotes and EOD movement.  That discussion was continued into subsequent pages (I think), so I don't really see why you're pointing out that page.

 

Verbal couldn't figure out the significance of page 32. 

 

Others Posted about this as well.  Iirc no one could figure out the deal.

On 4/23/2025 at 10:01 AM, DPR said:


What are your thoughts on the points I made earlier? Agree? Disagree? 

 

Still doesn't answer and asks for thoughts.

 

 

Later he says he done some of the stuff he done to draw the NK cause he's the hider.   I call bull💩.

 

Scum want to leave people in the game that cause chaos until they find out if they're essential or not.   No way in any universe does DPR not know this.

 

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

@TigraineI've been super-sensitive to any DPR content, so I doubt that I misread anything that you were saying regarding him. However, I also don't have any note of it, and I'm not searching back for it, and I'm questioning its validity, so I will happily concede the point now as irrelevant if not disproven.

 

And as you are still obviously sore about the Rand thing, please let me try to explain again.

 

I did not say you sussed him because he saved Dice. I said you sussed him despite him saving Dice. 

 

Even if we accept Rand was as scummy as could possibly be imagined with his one-liners and "I don't believe you" posts, if we assume he was mafia, we would have to accept that a mafia player was interacting with a cop claimee without stringing him up. Especially your claim that he should have picked up on the hints earlier, makes zero sense in terms of AI. If he was a wolf and had picked up them he would have "gone in a tunnel" or run out of charge or whatever while there was plausible deniability. In no world would a mafia player stay online saying, "what are you saying Dice, time is running short" if they understood that Dice was hinting at a PR in town. It just doesn't not matter how scummy Rand was, the fact that Dice did not get eliminated says enough. Rand being scummy while failing to eliminate Dice does not make any sense to me at all, and the fact that you were so eager to argue the opposite really stood out for me. Maybe this is my failing, but that is how it is. Something that I thought should be obvious, you took a diametrically opposite view on. And with hindsight, my position has only become stronger. 

 

Can you understand what I am saying? 

 

Just trying to set everything right before I need to shake off this mortal coil, lol, but I feel you are still annoyed at me, and I really would like to make my position clear while I still can.

Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't to others.

 

He would've never talked his way out if Dice actually did flip cop.  He had no choice but to back off Dice.  That would've been true even if he were scum.  But honestly, why would it have been important to mafia to kill a claimed cop when they knew they could RB him the whole time....leaving everyone to question if he is actually the cop. 

 

Scum absolutely love townies that create chaos.  It's easier for them to hide behind.

 

And you're not going back to show how I agreed with DPR on everything because I didn't.  

Posted
On 4/21/2025 at 10:02 PM, Darthe said:

Final Vote Count (Day One)

 

Marsh (5/7): Ithi, Wes, Key, Dice, Rand

Dice (3/7): Nyn, Turin, Marsh

Heavy (1/7): Lenlo

Wes (1/7): Heavy

 

Not Voting: Verb, Ed, Tig

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

count down to hammer time

 

 

We still have 2 scum left.  How is NO ONE looking at Day 1 lynch?

 

5 people on Marshs train.  Rand flipped cop.  I honestly cannot see any possible scenario where at least 1 of the 4 is scum.

  • RP - PLAYER
Posted
5 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

He would've never talked his way out if Dice actually did flip cop.  He had no choice but to back off Dice.  That would've been true even if he were scum.  But honestly, why would it have been important to mafia to kill a claimed cop when they knew they could RB him the whole time....leaving everyone to question if he is actually the cop. 

If you believe this, then why would he act all scummy, why not delight in the cop claim? Again you are arguing something diametrically opposite to what happened. Not even taking into account he was definitively not acting scummy as he was the fluffing doctor.

 

Why are you insisting you are right on this point? I don't think it is aiding your survival chances, but whatever.

Posted
2 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

@Tigraine I'm sorry you broke your foot because of DM. How the heck does that happen? You should never walk and text. I hope its not too uncomfortable 💙

 

To be fair, it wasn't only DM...as i was reading and walking, i stepped onto the porch to tell the kids to come in and stepped onto a giant piece of chalk (sadly this is the 2nd time it's happened...got a broken foot and butt outta that one) at least it's just the foot this time.

 

Got a few days off work from it so not so upset...just in pain.  The meds make me sick so I stopped taking them.  I'm slightly grumpy about this lol

 

  • RP - PLAYER
Posted
Just now, Tigraine said:

 

To be fair, it wasn't only DM...as i was reading and walking, i stepped onto the porch to tell the kids to come in and stepped onto a giant piece of chalk (sadly this is the 2nd time it's happened...got a broken foot and butt outta that one) at least it's just the foot this time.

 

Got a few days off work from it so not so upset...just in pain.  The meds make me sick so I stopped taking them.  I'm slightly grumpy about this lol

 

Hopefully at least you don't have the physiotherapy afterwards. After breaking my hand that was agony - every half hour for weeks, I slanked off and my fingers are not straight anymore. Hope it works out better for you and you listen better to your doctors than I did 😄

Posted
6 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

If you believe this, then why would he act all scummy, why not delight in the cop claim? Again you are arguing something diametrically opposite to what happened. Not even taking into account he was definitively not acting scummy as he was the fluffing doctor.

 

Why are you insisting you are right on this point? I don't think it is aiding your survival chances, but whatever.

 

I still believe he played the EoD 1 bad.  Obviously he wasn't scum but it doesn't mean he didn't look scummy.  Then insisting how townie he looked....someone else has been doing that 🤔....which looks scummy.  You're acting like I'm the only one to think it was sus and I'm not.  You want to pretend like there wasn't more behind my sus read on him than just unvoting the unccd cop and it just isn't true.

 

I haven't stopped going on about this because people haven't stopped lying about it.  

 

I have stated that no, it doesn't look good that I went after the doc that strongly, but I didn't know he was doc....I didn't even know if he was town. It's the name of the game.  Call people out on their sus behavior.

 

I was wrong about him being scum, I've been wrong before...it was a Tuesday 🤣

Posted
3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Hopefully at least you don't have the physiotherapy afterwards. After breaking my hand that was agony - every half hour for weeks, I slanked off and my fingers are not straight anymore. Hope it works out better for you and you listen better to your doctors than I did 😄

Yeah probably not.  I hate this stupid boot already 🤭

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Posted
1 hour ago, Tigraine said:

Later he says he done some of the stuff he done to draw the NK cause he's the hider.   I call bull💩.

 

Scum want to leave people in the game that cause chaos until they find out if they're essential or not.   No way in any universe does DPR not know this.

 

 

 

Are you saying DPR is lying about being Hider?

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