90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Tigraine]

@Ithillian Turambar riddle me this...that past times you've sussed me, it was based on the whole Turin thing...what was it before that made you sus me?  

 

It seems like every time I asked, you were using someone else's interpretation of what I had said and I constantly pointed out that they were missing the point but I don't recall you ever moving past that.

[Ironeyes]

 

3 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

Again, as I said, it made me think of 3p at first but didn't make sense with the suggested action or inaction of not revealing character names.  Ruling Turin out as 3rd party but also feeling like he threw that piece about the condemner knowing who they're looking for when it was never confirmed in there for another reason.  This led me down the path of him having some reason to not want to have to reveal his character names. Since our claimed cop hasn't been able to get a read, I wondered if there was more to Turin suggesting this.

 

Which in summary means it wasn't about the 3p....it was about Mafia.

This makes no sense. Turin "slipped" by revealing info only the 3p would know, but then his suggestion not to character reveal rules him out as 3p... because if he doesn't want anyone character claiming he must be mafia? So he didn't slip? And how exactly do character names have anything at all to do with the cop? 

 

For the sake of argument, let's assume that a town member would have no reason to urge caution in the face of how he assumes some role works. Would the mafia believe their character names would out them? They could have been provided fake claims, or their character assignments could be NAI. Ed was Arnold from Terminator. Last I checked, he's the hero of that movie. 

[Tigraine]

Just now, Ironeyes said:

 

This makes no sense. Turin "slipped" by revealing info only the 3p would know, but then his suggestion not to character reveal rules him out as 3p... because if he doesn't want anyone character claiming he must be mafia? So he didn't slip? And how exactly do character names have anything at all to do with the cop? 

 

For the sake of argument, let's assume that a town member would have no reason to urge caution in the face of how he assumes some role works. Would the mafia believe their character names would out them? They could have been provided fake claims, or their character assignments could be NAI. Ed was Arnold from Terminator. Last I checked, he's the hero of that movie. 

 

But Ed claimed some role that was a spy didn't he?  

 

Idk if they have anything to do with the cop or not.  Which is my point. Him suggesting we not use character names in conjunction with something that we still don't know if it's true or not is what pinged as scummy.

 

 

After realizing that 3p wouldn't warn against character names, it changed my view.  Then it was no longer a "slip" it was, imo, misdirection.  But it has been way easier to just say slip instead of having to spell it out literally every time someone quotes me because I literally have to explain and explain again the next time someone reads other peoples posts about what i said instead of actually reading the post for what i said.  

[Tigraine]

On a side note, I don't think I've ever seen Terminator.  I was getting it mixed up with Kindergarten Cop so I couldn't figure out why @Darthe had made him mafia.   I take back all those unflattering things I said about you Darthe 😁

[Ithillian Turambar]

1 minute ago, Tigraine said:

@Ithillian Turambar riddle me this...that past times you've sussed me, it was based on the whole Turin thing...what was it before that made you sus me?  

 

It seems like every time I asked, you were using someone else's interpretation of what I had said and I constantly pointed out that they were missing the point but I don't recall you ever moving past that.

Well that's not true. I specifically said that you are trying to be non suspect and neutral.  I specifically said i thought mafia might be hiding in the nulls and neutrals. I thought you you were being very very neutral.

 

Tbh im not a good team player when it comes to mafia. Thats probably why im not a great player. I just read along on my own and make my own choices.

 

The Turin thing wasn't even a big spot for me. My point was that you had a strong suspect - Heavy. You name them your top suspect and then you forget them and go for whoever is the flavour of the day - which was Marsh.

 

I asked you why and you said yeah your best suspect is Heavy but you still think Turin made a slip. But the slip would have been a 3rd party slip surely?

 

I don't think I have ever used another person's interpretation. I quoted things you had said and explained what they made me feel.

 

If you can find me something I have said where it says, oh Skibidi thinks this about Tig and so that made me think 'toilet', then please show me and we can have a talk about that.

 

You vote people you unvote people. You have not been on a single Lynch This game because I think you think you can avoid whatever wagonomics is and not voting is a good way to not be seen.

 

You vote Heavy for a 'slip' about knowing more about the condemner rule than he should have done because that's what was going on at the time. The condemner is 3rd party not Mafia. We should be looking for Mafia.

 

I helped Zander show that the timestamps did not show Heavy knew something extra about the condemner and I wouldn't vote him for that. Also if it had been that he would have been 3rd party. 

 

Turin mentioned extra kills because he thought the condemner was a shooter. He gave the game all the info he got from Darthe including it would be best to not give character names. He worked out odds on the condemners hits both including and excluding Mafia... so I realised he had guessed how the role works because darthe said its a random target. But again, if Turin did have extra early info about the condemner,  that would make him the condemner and thus 3rd party.

 

The Turin thing... you came in towards the end of that, if I remember, and maybe thought you'd fly along with that idea. It was done by then, so it made no sense to me why you would want to turn it all over again.

 

But explain to me again exactly what the 'slip' was that you saw. Who made the slip and why the 'slip' would make you think they were Mafia.

 

I'm gonna go back and have a look at my previous posts about you cos I'm sure I was mostly quoting you.

[Ithillian Turambar]

But first, I have to take our dog out.

[dicetosser1]

9 hours ago, DPR said:

What I was hoping was that on n1, mafia shot the Condemner and blew off the bpv -hence no kill. 
 

And then they would circle back and finish them off last night. But that didn’t happen. 

So who are your top 3 for scum? 

 

1 anyone who ccs me.

2 I’m thinking key. She just seems to have done all the right things you know? Kinda too perfect. Obviously I’m also not a fan of her take on my claim

3 verbal or tig. I’m going back and forth here. Both have 3p potential but honestly that’s not something I’ve been looking for

 because I do t really know WHAT to look for to hunt 3p. I just hunt scum

 

There’s a quote below from verbal that’s going to get the same answer as this but he keeps crowing about how he knew this lynch was town etc.  I think that’s what had dpr think a cc was coming.

Thing is ScumVerb would know too.

 

i also wonder if the little bit of talk dpr and I had about a cv last night scared off a cc 

 

tigs.  Went at rand. I thought she made good arguments but I was also biased.

argued turin slipped got pretty much proven wrong. Has mostly been doing an impression of being Switzerland. Currently has three votes on her I believe?

 

what’s bothering me is its feeling too easy. Doesn’t mean it’s not right but it’s making me hesitate

 

 

6 hours ago, DPR said:

Root canal delayed - X-rays revealed another tooth that needs looking at first. FML

Here. Hope that roses you over

  

 

5 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

Sorry on my end. Between it being memorial day and my dad not managing to wake up from an induced coma so far... feeling pretty down.

 

Totally not game related in any way, shape or form, of course.

hugs

 

 

3 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

I'd really like to hear from key. And I guess dice.

 

wow feel the love!

 

 

2 hours ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Even if true, how does that align with me saying Marsh1 was town and we shouldn't lynch him?

 

That was Day 1.

 

 

I'm putting in effort, but holding back?  WTF does that even mean?  But that last sentence is decent, makes me think deepwolf in my town reads.

 

as above.  Scumverb would know they weren’t scum and 3p can just be shrugged off as “how was I sposed to know”
 

 

35 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

 

This makes no sense. Turin "slipped" by revealing info only the 3p would know, but then his suggestion not to character reveal rules him out as 3p... because if he doesn't want anyone character claiming he must be mafia? So he didn't slip? And how exactly do character names have anything at all to do with the cop? 

 

For the sake of argument, let's assume that a town member would have no reason to urge caution in the face of how he assumes some role works. Would the mafia believe their character names would out them? They could have been provided fake claims, or their character assignments could be NAI. Ed was Arnold from Terminator. Last I checked, he's the hero of that movie. 

 

It wasn’t terminator. Was armies  character from true lies.  Pretty big difference dude

[dicetosser1]

I’ve got nyn as a soul read town.  I wavered but scumbag Eddie restored my faith

 

ithi I have town because she’s been pointing stuff out and poking but mainly there the catching of Ed’s slip , the frustration after that of not getting credit for it, which felt real and the timestamp stuff with wackodprs heavy chaos

 

turinmarsh. This is mainly based on turin tbh. The way he reacted to my claim. Balanced. Objective. The correct way to take it imo

 

dpr   Bloody chaotic.  Should be lunched just to stop him breaking our brains again. But he seems to be the hider.  
 

vote key

[Nynaeve]

4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

1 anyone who ccs me.

2 I’m thinking key. She just seems to have done all the right things you know? Kinda too perfect. Obviously I’m also not a fan of her take on my claim

3 verbal or tig. I’m going back and forth here. Both have 3p potential but honestly that’s not something I’ve been looking for

 because I do t really know WHAT to look for to hunt 3p. I just hunt scum

 

There’s a quote below from verbal that’s going to get the same answer as this but he keeps crowing about how he knew this lynch was town etc.  I think that’s what had dpr think a cc was coming.

Thing is ScumVerb would know too.

 

i also wonder if the little bit of talk dpr and I had about a cv last night scared off a cc 

 

tigs.  Went at rand. I thought she made good arguments but I was also biased.

argued turin slipped got pretty much proven wrong. Has mostly been doing an impression of being Switzerland. Currently has three votes on her I believe?

 

what’s bothering me is its feeling too easy. Doesn’t mean it’s not right but it’s making me hesitate

 

 

Here. Hope that roses you over

  

 

hugs

 

 

 

wow feel the love!

 

 

 

as above.  Scumverb would know they weren’t scum and 3p can just be shrugged off as “how was I sposed to know”
 

 

 

It wasn’t terminator. Was armies  character from true lies.  Pretty big difference dude

 

You were skiddish about ed's train building up fast iirc. I dont think it's necessarily telling in this occassion.

 

I'm also not a fan of key atp and with 2 scum left and a 3p I think there is no way around it. Unless I'm really sucking this game...  but loss of confidence isn't an option.

[Nynaeve]

4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

I’ve got nyn as a soul read town.  I wavered but scumbag Eddie restored my faith

 

ithi I have town because she’s been pointing stuff out and poking but mainly there the catching of Ed’s slip , the frustration after that of not getting credit for it, which felt real and the timestamp stuff with wackodprs heavy chaos

 

turinmarsh. This is mainly based on turin tbh. The way he reacted to my claim. Balanced. Objective. The correct way to take it imo

 

dpr   Bloody chaotic.  Should be lunched just to stop him breaking our brains again. But he seems to be the hider.  
 

vote key

 

If you are the cop, why do you think they're keeping you alive?

[Tigraine]

6 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I specifically said that you are trying to be non suspect and neutral

 

I do recall this now, thank you for that. I was genuinely asking why you thought I was sus.  Not being a 🫏

 

8 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

You name them your top suspect and then you forget them and go for whoever is the flavour of the day - which was Marsh

 

I'm not sure I'm understanding this statement. It seems like you're implying that Marsh was a hot topic for everyone but I don't recall that.  If you mean something else, Idk what it means. But Heavy was still high on my list which like Rand, it doesn't look good for me but I'm not going to deny how I felt at the time.

 

13 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

But the slip would have been a 3rd party slip surely

 

See 2 posts above yours.

 

15 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I quoted things you had said and explained what they made me feel.

 

Yes, you quoted quotes made by me but it always seemed to be in the context given by the person who quoted it.

 

17 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

You vote people you unvote people

 

I have voted when I thought i found scum, and my unvotes were due to claims.  Not once did I vote to run up a competing train (i don't think that's beneficial to town 🤷‍♀️) and I'll have to look back but I'm pretty sure I was sussed because I wouldn't vote for someone (for no reason) other than the person I had just unvoted.  I don't think throwing votes around all willy nilly is beneficial for town.

 

I was not around EoD 1.  I was asleep.  I won't apologize or defend myself for that.  EoD 2 I was literally tied for the hammer on Ed, who had had already voted for but unvoted with his claim to give us time to figure it out....iirc, you did as well.

EoD 3, I was under the impression that Heavy wanted to live so I was giving him time to say something if he wanted to say it.  

 

23 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

not voting is a good way to not be seen.

 

This would be a good point if I hadn't spent so much time sussing people for things I thought they had said or done wrong.  I caught hell from most people for my sus of Rand and Turin but I never backed off those suspicions, even when EVERYONE was sussing me for it.  Not such a good way to not be seen.

 

26 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

You vote Heavy for a 'slip'

 

I absolutely did not.  Even though I was sus of Heavy, i defended him in that whole thing. So you have me confused with someone else there.

 

28 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

He gave the game all the info he got from Darthe including it would be best to not give character names.

 

Darthe told him it would be best not to mention character names?  I completely missed the part where he said that.  I was under the impression that was Turin's thought.  That seems like a really weird thing for a mod to do as an impartial party...maybe I'm wrong 🤷‍♀️

 

But anyway, Darthe never confirmed telling Turin that or that the person knew the targets name.  Unless it has something to do with Turin's specific role, the mod would have ZERO reason to give a player more information than he would give the entire group.  

 

31 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

The Turin thing... you came in towards the end of that

 

When I come to the game, I don't start from the most recent point and work backwards like some people do.  I cannot, it gets the timeline in my head screwed up and I do not like to do that.  So I came in with that info when I was at the part about the Heavy "slip." That's why I was even reading what Turin said anyway.

 

As for the slip, Turin had put in the post which talked about the clarification from the mod via PM that the condemner knew the character name of their target.  When Darthe came to clear up everything about the role, he did not say the condemner knew the character name of their target.  So I had to assume that Turin either misunderstood or purposely lied because again, I cannot see a mod giving one player that information while refusing to give it to everyone else unless it had something to do with their role.

[Nynaeve]

@keyholder21

[Ironeyes]

17 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

It wasn’t terminator. Was armies  character from true lies.  Pretty big difference dude

I literally looked up the death post. 

 

On 4/24/2025 at 6:11 PM, Darthe said:

 

[SCENE]

ed2funy - Terminator - Arnold Schwarzenegger - Terminator - Mafia 1x Strongman has been lynched.

 

It is now Night. You have 23 hours to submit actions.

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

9 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

absolutely did not.  Even though I was sus of Heavy, i defended him in that whole thing. So you have me confused with someone else there.

Well I might have got confused about that. But did say say a lot of something about Heavy and a slip.

 

I've gone back through my posts and I can't see anything where I've quoted or used another person's opinion about you.

 

If you think that's not true then I'll let you do the work and show me.

 

Could you tell me why you unvoted Marsh please? Marsh never claimed anything.

 

 

[Nynaeve]

Btw schwarzenegger was the bad guy on the first terminator movie. He was the good guy on terminator 2

[Ithillian Turambar]

12 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

@keyholder21

Where is she? She has been gone a very long time.

[Nynaeve]

Just now, Ithillian Turambar said:

Where is she? She has been gone a very long time.

 

Dunno

[Tigraine]

25 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

wasn’t terminator. Was armies  character from true lies.  Pretty big difference dude

 

Ed claimed Harry Tasker.  That's what you're thinking of 

[Ironeyes]

2 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

Btw schwarzenegger was the bad guy on the first terminator movie. He was the good guy on terminator 2

...he was? I have to confess I haven't watched any of them. I thought the "I'll be back" line as he sinks into lava was from the first Terminator. 

 

I was born in 1996. Some of the movies involved in this game probably came out before I was born lol. 

[Nynaeve]

Just now, Ironeyes said:

...he was? I have to confess I haven't watched any of them. I thought the "I'll be back" line as he sinks into lava was from the first Terminator. 

 

I was born in 1996. Some of the movies involved in this game probably came out before I was born lol. 

 

Yeah, I was born in 1985.

In the first one he's trying to kill the kid. On the 2nd one he protects him from a newer terminator model that can shapeshift.

[Tigraine]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Well I might have got confused about that. But did say say a lot of something about Heavy and a slip.

 

I've gone back through my posts and I can't see anything where I've quoted or used another person's opinion about you.

 

If you think that's not true then I'll let you do the work and show me.

 

Could you tell me why you unvoted Marsh please? Marsh never claimed anything.

 

 

 

As I said, I defended Heavy in the whole "slip" debacle.

 

When I voted Marsh because of the Turin thing? Is that when you're talking about? Because no one else found issue with the whole Turin thing and while i said I was still suspicious of it, it was doing no good to continue going on about it nor to have my vote somewhere when people were trying to reach concensus elsewhere.  

 

Apparently a lot of people find it sus and as trying to appear neutral to not vote and unvote multiple times...a lot of people have used that to say I seem to be trying to appear neutral.  I just do not think voting people just to get reactions is a pro town move.  Never have. 

 

 

[dicetosser1]

18 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

You were skiddish about ed's train building up fast iirc. I dont think it's necessarily telling in this occassion.

 

I'm also not a fan of key atp and with 2 scum left and a 3p I think there is no way around it. Unless I'm really sucking this game...  but loss of confidence isn't an option.

yep but that train went from nothing to something really quick

 

this time I’m just worried it’s too easy. shrug

 

16 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

If you are the cop, why do you think they're keeping you alive?

1 no one believes me. No one listens to me

2 their blocking me every night so my action is no threat

3 chaos. Considering number 1 they may be thinking 1 of 2 things

      1 we can cv and maybe get him mislynched which is a bonus for us

      2 if there’s no cv they may mislynch him anyway before Mykonos

 

 

9 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

I literally looked up the death post. 

 

 

you said he CLAIMED terminator.  He did not. I know cause i immediately looked the character up cause I didn’t know it

[Ironeyes]

4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

you said he CLAIMED terminator.  He did not. I know cause i immediately looked the character up cause I didn’t know it

 

1 hour ago, Ironeyes said:

 

This makes no sense. Turin "slipped" by revealing info only the 3p would know, but then his suggestion not to character reveal rules him out as 3p... because if he doesn't want anyone character claiming he must be mafia? So he didn't slip? And how exactly do character names have anything at all to do with the cop? 

 

For the sake of argument, let's assume that a town member would have no reason to urge caution in the face of how he assumes some role works. Would the mafia believe their character names would out them? They could have been provided fake claims, or their character assignments could be NAI. Ed was Arnold from Terminator. Last I checked, he's the hero of that movie. 

 

[Nynaeve]

Going to bed

Ni ni

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

TIG - 3/7 (Marsh, Verbal. Ithi)

KEY - 2/7 (Tig, Dice)

 

Not Voting
Nyn, DPR, Key

 

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Countdown to EOD.