90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[dicetosser1]

5 minutes ago, DPR said:

Okay. We used to have a term/acronym for “if you had to shoot one player right now, who would it be?” I forget the term, but who would that be for you? 

 

I can’t believe Darthe would do this. Oh, wait, yes I can lol

probably heavy I think. I can’t figure him out so..

 

 

5 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

You don't sound like towndice. You've been supposedly town reading me but suddenly at EoD while you know I'm away you have a change of hearts and try to cfd me? Lol  pre tell, what made you change your mind?

 

Ya know what? No need to respond further. You slot will be figured out one way or the other soon enough. And if I'm wrong? Well, won't be the first time. Don't think I am, though.

 

Ok fair enough

 

i know your wrong but that’s ok

[dicetosser1]

@DPR  your not missing the obvious one are you? Vig? Cause if that’s not it I can’t think of it either

[Nynaeve]

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

what do you want from me ffs?  I feel like you should be able to easily see I’m not lying but noooo.  And you haven’t been particularly helpful game wise.  Insert snark here, maybe a question there but that’s it.

 

so yeah I had doubts. 

 

Last I checked I voted scum d2 so I'm feeling pretty good about my contributions to the game, tyvm.

 

All you've done yourself is argue with players that don't believe your claim. On and on and on....while not wanting to participate in a confirmed scum lynch cause it built too fast... cool.

 

Why do you even care if I believe your claim or not? I'm not pushing for your lynch. You'll get resolved soon enough. So you pratting on about it is pretty pointless imo. Even if I end up being wrong... so what?

[dicetosser1]

Because it’s bugging me. That’s why.

[DPR]

5 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

GTH

gun to head?

That’s the one 🙏 

[Nynaeve]

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

 

Lol if Day 1 all 3 Wolves/Non Town were not voting.....

 

Purple Votes are Wagonomics votes and voting patterns that are most alarming to me.

 

Tig hasn't been a part of either lunch.

Heavy's been parked on DPR seemingly all game basically lololololol.

Ithi based also on GP and more Wolf Equity imho 

Verb not a Wolf I don't think but high 3rd Party equity 

Turin based on having BOTH Wolf and 3rd equity IMHO.

 

That's almost in order I think tho I didn't intentionally mean to lol.  Maybe could switch Tig and Heavy.  

 

Tig/Heavy need to be looked into for sure. 

 

[Nynaeve]

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

I invited too tbf so just figured I'd toss that in there.

 

Also really only think I've seen DPR commit to a read on me.

 

Wheres everyone got me at ATP?

 

Your existence is acceptable.

[Tigraine]

7 hours ago, keyholder21 said:

 

There is no bus driver in this game!??!?!

Irrelevant since there isn't one in this game, apparently, but what is a bus driver? I don't recall that role in any game I played (it may have been, I just don't remember it)

 

 

[Verbal32]

2 hours ago, Zander? said:

I'd say if Dice isn't the cop and the cop has a red peek only obviously claim right away day 3 if you peeked, someone that's not Dice, Red or Not Town. As we'd have two of the 3 remaining non Town unless it's a koe and Dice actually is but if this scenario happens.  Cop claims right at starting day not if only getting wrung up.  We should still be fine mathematically even if Dice's actually Cop and Wolves try a crazy gambit.  Unless anyone has a better take/plan or why this isn't a good idea please lmk.

 

I agree with this.  With a red peek or 2 blue ones, we can come out ahead.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Can't say much about 3p equity, but like with Rand, I'd be seriously shocked if Verb was scum. Very low chances. He's not that good of a scumster, sorry not sorry lol

 

I'm going to make a separate post re: 3p equity.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

Ya I think that's the general consensus for our Wagonomics.

 

In my order of most to least likely ITHI/Tig/Key

 

I am getting a more townie vibe from Ithi's reaction to how EOD went - feels like frustrated townie that some people have her in the POE and she doesn't feel like she belongs there.  Reads genuine.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I'm still ticked off at you all for not including me in the hurrahs last night and then straight away saying I must be Mafia.

 

See above quote, this is a good example.  Ithi, while this looks better for you....POE is just how many people end up solving.  It's a numbers thing.

[dicetosser1]

Just now, Tigraine said:

Irrelevant since there isn't one in this game, apparently, but what is a bus driver? I don't recall that role in any game I played (it may have been, I just don't remember it)

 

 

a bus driver is a role that can switch two people around. So if I was one I could switch myself with you

 

doing that any action that was aimed at me hits you instead cause your standing in my place.  So a cop would think they viewed me but the result they get would be yours. But they don’t know it

 

its a mafia role only I think. I’ve never seen a town one

[Verbal32]

Re: 3p equity

 

 

In this game, I don't think it's relevant.  3p will be basically a townie until they activate SK mode, right?  That means everybody without scum equity has 3p equity - that's how it works.

 

So I don't think any one player has more than another - it's just on/off whether they have any at all.

 

Please poke holes in this if you don't think it makes sense.

[Nynaeve]

44 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

@Nynaeve not quite sure EXACTLY where you're going with the people who unvoted Ed but did you see where I quoted you and said I did as well?  Just wanted to make sure you knew that and would like to see you're reasoning for bringing it up please if you'll share?

 

It's not that I mind the unvoting after a PR claim as of rule. That's fine.

 

But it was interesting to me to look specifically at the ladies. Tigs/Ithi/Key, who imo have among them potential of being a scummate bussing, as I indicated in a previous post.

 

Key wasn't around at Eod from what I gather... which could mean anything alignment wise. So her vote stayed on ed the entire time. Tigs and Ithi were around and unvoted once ed claimed (tigs did first, Ithi later). I can see a world where a scummate might stick around to either bus and gain credit or lend a hand in the fake claim attempt to sway the votes elsewhere.

 

Ithi did end up returning to ed after his slip. Tigs voted after majority was reached. I'd say out of the two ithi looks better for returning her vote. But it's just my intuition. Plus tone wise Ithi sounded pleased at nabbing scum... there was a sense of accomplishment mixed with disappointment when she was getting crap about it later on... 

[Verbal32]

2 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Can't say much about 3p equity, but like with Rand, I'd be seriously shocked if Verb was scum. Very low chances. He's not that good of a scumster, sorry not sorry lol

 

Yeah, you're right here.  Back in the day, I was maybe average as scum, solid as 3p, and a good townie.

 

Now?  Pretty much crap all around, heh.

[Verbal32]

If I had to name a deepwolf right now, it would be Nyn.  I have had her as a town read from early D1, but when she's on her game, she's scary good as scum.

 

It's my endgame tinfoil if I live that long.

[Nynaeve]

56 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Ok @Nynaeve he answered so I wanna put my 2 cents in (big surprise right lololol)

 

 

I thought the same thing too but Rand actually confirmed that the character he claimed was a spy which kinda seemed somewhat relevant to his character I thought

 

If characters were AI we wouldn't be allowed to claim or alternatively the baddies would get fake claims.

 

Pointless wifom. Especially considering he stated he wasn't gonna vote a uncced doc.

[Nynaeve]

51 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

And to be honest, my first choice to vote today was Tigs, but then Darthe posted a vote count that had Ed and DPR tied. And I think DPR is Town, so I changed to Ed to make him have more votes.

 

Because he was my other highest Mafia possibility. 

 

And THEN the whole claim thing went down.

 

So if you know how to use vote places to work out who the Mafia are @Zander? you probably need to check the first train up to the point Ed claimed and also the 2nd one where he was actually Lynched.

 

And factor in on the second one everyone voted at roughly the same time, and the order is in whatever DM allowed to update first, because Ed forgot he'd said Dice and thought Nyn was a Nun.

Good point

 

I believe Key broke the tie cause you posted around the same time? If so I still maintain that out of the three chickas, Tigs looks less good in comparison 

[Zander?]

9 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

I agree with this.  With a red peek or 2 blue ones, we can come out ahead.

 

 

 

 

I'm going to make a separate post re: 3p equity.

 

 

 

 

I am getting a more townie vibe from Ithi's reaction to how EOD went - feels like frustrated townie that some people have her in the POE and she doesn't feel like she belongs there.  Reads genuine.

 

 

 

 

See above quote, this is a good example.  Ithi, while this looks better for you....POE is just how many people end up solving.  It's a numbers thing.

 

 

Disagree with you're agreeing with me lol irt 2 blue peeks because there's a GF.  Thoughts?

[Zander?]

8 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

Re: 3p equity

 

 

In this game, I don't think it's relevant.  3p will be basically a townie until they activate SK mode, right?  That means everybody without scum equity has 3p equity - that's how it works.

 

So I don't think any one player has more than another - it's just on/off whether they have any at all.

 

Please poke holes in this if you don't think it makes sense.

 

I'm hunting for 3 more period lol 

[Tigraine]

2 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

Hope that clears up my stance.

It does.  Thank you

 

I'm only on pg 78 in my catch up so I'll probably have more to say before it's done but I'm gonna see what I see.  Again, I want to remind everyone, I'm not gonna be on again until tonight.  This town never has anything worth a crap to do so we get all excited when the carnival comes to town. Lol

[Verbal32]

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

 

Disagree with you're agreeing with me lol irt 2 blue peeks because there's a GF.  Thoughts?

 

I was just going over it, and I think you're right.  I figured the extra blue would offset that and we could lynch the GF in endgame, but it would still be a 50/50 as scum would obv leave them alive for confusion.

 

Ok, just red then.  Good callout.

[Verbal32]

2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

I'm hunting for 3 more period lol 

 

Agree, but "X player has more 3p equity than Y player" is not a thing this game.  You're either scum, or town with even 3p equity to other townies.

[Zander?]

28 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Your existence is acceptable.

 

For anyone who doesn't know Nyn well this is very high praise coming from Nyn LOLOLOLOLOL ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

[Ithillian Turambar]

9 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

I am getting a more townie vibe from Ithi's reaction to how EOD went - feels like frustrated townie that some people have her in the POE and she doesn't feel like she belongs there.  Reads genuine.

 

See above quote, this is a good example.  Ithi, while this looks better for you....POE is just how many people end up solving.  It's a numbers thing.

 

7 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Ithi did end up returning to ed after his slip. Tigs voted after majority was reached. I'd say out of the two ithi looks better for returning her vote. But it's just my intuition. Plus tone wise Ithi sounded pleased at nabbing scum... there was a sense of accomplishment mixed with disappointment when she was getting crap about it later on... 

 

 I appreciate this cos you know on Day 1 I got it wrong cos i saw something where there wasnt anything. But i was so certain at the time.

 

and when Ed said his thing about the whole roleblock proving he was the doc I was like a ha! But then he said I had the name wrong and I didn't want to make a mistake again, just cos I mis remembered what he said. So I do the right thing, go and check that he DID say Dice and freaking vote him again.

 

And I absolutely was very annoyed to be left out of the celebration. Seething really.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Lol just remembering it is winding me up.

 

I should probably get my work finished cos there's no way I would ever stay 1 minute longer than I'd have to.

 

Before the long commute to my sofa.

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Agree, but "X player has more 3p equity than Y player" is not a thing this game.  You're either scum, or town with even 3p equity to other townies.

 

Meh word it however you feel is best.  I make sense of things in Zander brain....may not make sense to anyone else does to me lol.  But really Tho me saying well 3 more Wolves would get called out or 3 more non town or 2 Wolves and 1 Rd party ..doesn't matter really same thing imo.  I'm looking for 3 more players whose not part of Towns population