Game Over - Hamilton Mafia - SMFDR's Win!

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 8:04 PM, seph said:

We are having a phone call / getting dead thread opinions after this game lol.

No more circles for now. I understand my logic could have altered by what you said. I just disagreed on aspects of your argument and vice versa it seems.

 

He by far was one of the wolfiest left and I think I was able to convey it in my non spec post. I actually don't know if anything caused you to listen to me or if you were just tired from being sick though lol.

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The only reason I voted for him was because I also had him Wolf lol

[seph]

  On 4/13/2025 at 8:06 PM, Zander? said:

 

The only reason I voted for him was because I also had him Wolf lol

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That is the last time I ever do a iso/case for you....

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 8:11 PM, seph said:

That is the last time I ever do a iso/case for you....

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❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Lololololol 

[seph]

  On 4/13/2025 at 7:51 PM, Zander? said:

 

Let's pretend or goes this way.  Who should I vote?

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I've been reading back through yesterday and I think I am going gud between the two.

I get that I may.... MAY have been wrong on some of our arguments but like I said that's postgame. We can't always be right in mafia, but I think between us we can win this game.

 

I can promise you that gud might not even make it into tomorrow so hopefully that seals the deal tbh. 

Last chance to talk about this Yolo because if I miss I think that's game?

 

I keep waffling on the two, so thoughts?

[Ithillian Turambar]

This Thread is now Locked.

 

No more posting please

[Ithillian Turambar]

Start of Day 4

 

 

Night 3 arrived under a heavy sky.

No one trusted anyone anymore. Doors stayed shut. Eyes followed each other too long. Conversations were clipped, cautious, burdened with second guesses.

The town had turned inward—fractured by fear, held together only by the ritual of surviving the next night.

Aaron Burr had always moved quietly. He knew how to wait, how to listen, how to stay just enough in the background to avoid the center of things. He had watched the others rise and fall, had measured each word spoken during the day.

But now, he stood in silence at the edge of the square, alone.

And this time… the shadows found him.

There was no struggle. No warning. Only the sound of breath catching in the throat as realization settled in.

He looked out at the empty night—not afraid. Almost relieved.

A small, bitter smile touched his lips as he whispered:

"Finally… I was in the room where it happened."

And then he was gone.

By morning, his absence would be unmistakable.

And the circle of survivors would grow smaller still.

 

Seph - Aaron Burr, 3rd Party Survivor recruited to Mafia - Southern Mother Fluffing Democratic Republicans with 1 x Extra Targeted Kill

 

Has been Killed.

 

As there are only 3 people left the next day will only last 48 hours.

 

Day 4 will end 10pm Tuesday 15th April.

 

I will post a Timer and VC in a little while.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

Not Voting - Dice, Gudrean, Zander

 

2 votes to Lynch

 

This is a Hybrid Hammer/Deadline Game

 

Day 4 ends 10pm BST on Tuesday 15th April

 

Day 4 Timer

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:01 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Start of Day 4

 

 

Night 3 arrived under a heavy sky.

No one trusted anyone anymore. Doors stayed shut. Eyes followed each other too long. Conversations were clipped, cautious, burdened with second guesses.

The town had turned inward—fractured by fear, held together only by the ritual of surviving the next night.

Aaron Burr had always moved quietly. He knew how to wait, how to listen, how to stay just enough in the background to avoid the center of things. He had watched the others rise and fall, had measured each word spoken during the day.

But now, he stood in silence at the edge of the square, alone.

And this time… the shadows found him.

There was no struggle. No warning. Only the sound of breath catching in the throat as realization settled in.

He looked out at the empty night—not afraid. Almost relieved.

A small, bitter smile touched his lips as he whispered:

"Finally… I was in the room where it happened."

And then he was gone.

By morning, his absence would be unmistakable.

And the circle of survivors would grow smaller still.

 

Seph - Aaron Burr, 3rd Party Survivor recruited to Mafia - Southern Mother Fluffing Democratic Republicans with 1 x Extra Targeted Kill

 

Has been Killed.

 

As there are only 3 people left the next day will only last 48 hours.

 

Day 4 will end 10pm Tuesday 15th April.

 

I will post a Timer and VC in a little while.

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I love being right lolololol

[seph]

Remember to bring it home for the town Zander! 

[dicetosser1]

Thank You @Ithillian Turambar!!!

 

as soon as you announced this theme the first thing that popped in my head was that Burr should be a survivor!

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:19 PM, dicetosser1 said:

Thank You @Ithillian Turambar!!!

 

as soon as you announced this theme the first thing that popped in my head was that Burr should be a survivor!

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Well Dice whose the last Wolf?

 

Lololololol 

[Gudrean]

I'm town Zander, we can still win this

[Zander?]

Im completely lost in setup now lol.

 

5 non town

X1 Recruiter?

2 Mafia Teams

1 Wolf Neighbors 

X1 Vote Stealer 

Mafia Messenger 

 

1 Town Neighbors

Town Informant x1 peek (have to believe CaTurin was Town now else Town started with less than Half the players lol)

Doc 

Watcher

X1 Vig Shot

X1 RB

IC 

 

 

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:22 PM, Gudrean said:

I'm town Zander, we can still win this

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Whose the Last Wolf lolololol 

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:28 PM, Zander? said:

Im completely lost in setup now lol.

 

5 non town

X1 Recruiter?

2 Mafia Teams

1 Wolf Neighbors 

X1 Vote Stealer 

Mafia Messenger 

 

1 Town Neighbors

Town Informant x1 peek (have to believe CaTurin was Town now else Town started with less than Half the players lol)

Doc 

Watcher

X1 Vig Shot

X1 RB

IC 

 

 

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Tinfoil thought: Unless CaTurin was 3rd party and somehow coulda been recruited/joined by/with Town?!?!??  Lololololol 

[Gudrean]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:28 PM, Zander? said:

 

Whose the Last Wolf lolololol 

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It has to be Dice!

[Zander?]

So here's what I slept on all last night.

 

I was about 50/50% Seph was a Wolf after claim.

 

I was about 75% after thing I mentioned talk about post game.

 

After Verb lunch and reflection on his "logic" refusal I was about 90%

 

So I slept on the game solve being this.

 

Did Seph choose The Townie as the "RB" thinking id never assume he would choose his teammate.

 

Or 

 

Did Seph choose the Teammate as the "RB" because he assume Id never assume hed choose his teammate so he choose his teammate.

 

FML I'mma find Seph's addy drive there and kick him square in the Junk.....lolololol

[Zander?]

Also was correct that VERB or Seph had to be Darthes partner. Lololololol 

[Gudrean]

I was surprised Seph was mafia.  He pushed me all game just to flip on D3?

[Zander?]

Also have a tinfoil theory I won't mention about Gud FML....it can't be almost the same thing but not the same for 2 tho.....right???

 

FML

[Gudrean]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:46 PM, Zander? said:

Also have a tinfoil theory I won't mention about Gud FML....it can't be almost the same thing but not the same for 2 tho.....right???

 

FML

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what do you mean by this?

[Gudrean]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:47 PM, Gudrean said:

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:46 PM, Zander? said:

Also have a tinfoil theory I won't mention about Gud FML....it can't be almost the same thing but not the same for 2 tho.....right???

 

FML

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what do you mean by this?

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talk me through it please

[Zander?]

Reading backwards from End of Day 1 tho some of the quotes are from someone's reply to Gud and Dice where I went and quoted the original Gud/Dice posts . Through page 59

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 1:50 PM, DPR said:

 

Current d1 views:

 

My vote is on @Turin Turambar and will stay there unless we learn something new. He's obviously a simp or a lover or somesuch. He's dominated d1 with his garbage and I've literally stopped reading anything he posts.  

 

There's a wolf among @seph & @Darthe

 

80% of Seph's game has been focused on painting me as a wolf, which to me shows that he set out to tunnel and has accomplished that.

 

Darthe's play has been all over the place and provides good cover for a wolf. His post the other night was hot garbage and he hasn't explained it at all. 

 

There's a wolf among @keyholder21 & @Hallia

 

Key has also spent a great deal of time focused on me, which is fine and all, but there are nudges and missreps of my posts. Her last WOT called me a liar for stating that Turin isn't leaning into his meta about always being perceived as a wolf. That's ridiculous - he obviously has. 

 

@Cass has been a pop-in. Not a good sign

 

Too early to tell for @dicetosser1, @Verbal32 or @Gudrean but I'm not getting bad vibes from any of them.

 

That's how I see it. I'm sure it's wildly different than others. I'll discuss actual points but I'm done responding to anyone who just wants to tunnel. 

 

 

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QFR trying to see his take on Gud and Dice.

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 2:21 PM, keyholder21 said:

Current reads.  Much of this I have already said in my catch up posts.

 

@Turin Turambar - As I explained in my last post, this is based off emotional investment more than gameplay.  Hate it if you want, but that's where I'm at. If he flips scum somehow then I REALLLLLY don't know what I'm doing and I will understand all the heat I will likely receive.

 

@DPR - Wolf, imo.  I feel like he's misreping/twisting a lot of things, specifically when posts are directed toward him (thinking of my posts and Seph's here).  I also don't understand his continued focus on putting me and Hallia together. His post above is at least the 4th time this game he's put us together. Like this sticks in my brain bad because Hallia and I have played very different games so far and it reeks of tying a townie to a wolf that's taken some heat. I haven't hated all his posts, but I have paid attention to people saying he can replicate his town game as scum.  

 

@Darthe - townread admittedly a lot of it based on old meta, but I don't feel like I'm playing any differently so why should I expect that he is?  I don't see wolfdarthe playing as sloppy or giving Turin an easy out.  I also like a lot of the questions he's posed to other people, and feel that's protown. This is also colored by my feel that Turin is town so lolme.

 

@Cass - scum lean.  Low contributor in terms of volume and then low content when she's here. I don't understand the random dicetown read and I don't remember her actually answering this? I also hate her vote as a pop in and implication that the vote had to be between Turin and Darthe.  Further in the posts she has been here, she's left defense for DPR, although this point specifically hinges on DPR being scum.

 

@Hallia - scum lean.  Low contributor, no explanations, wolfy pop-ins and horrid vote. 

 

@Gudrean - mild town read.  This is mostly off do I see new scum posting like this.  Is it the best reason?  No, but that's what I got. 

 

@Verbal32 - scum lean, just like cass low contributor in terms of volume and low content when he's here.  Many of his posts don't have anything to do with moving the game along, imo, and they look like an attempt to look like he's here doing things but actually isn't doing anything.

 

@seph - town read. I haven't liked everything he's said, but many of our reads are the same and he seems to be coming at the game the same way I am, which makes me feel good about him. He's also followed up on what he's said he would (so far) and that is, in general meta not person specific, to me a townie thing to do. 

 

@dicetosser1 - null atm because I liked/agreed with somethings that he said, but I didn't like others.  I felt like his null list and reasons were meh and even though she has a scum lean for me, he left himself an easy out with his Hally read.  I do like his town list though and reasons, hence null. 

 

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QFR seeing Keys take on Gud/Dice 

 

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 3:36 PM, Zander? said:

 

Good God Gud regardless now of Turins alignment I think you're likely Wolf FML 

 💔 💔 💔 

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  On 4/4/2025 at 12:13 PM, Gudrean said:

For what it's worth I think you are town @Turin Turambar, but I feel like there's a possible other thing no one but maybe Zander has thought of or mentioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in my searching the internet to find out what all these abbreviations and weird words y'all use in mafia mean, It came up that there can be 3 alignments in advanced mafia games. Are we overlooking the neutral characters? That is a thing right?

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My post, just above Gud's Quote above these words,is in response to this Gud Post.  I've said this a bunch either Gud's extremely quickly like faster than almost every single other person I've played with becoming high level Mafia player or has TMI or both ...lol.

 

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 12:24 PM, Gudrean said:

I'm pretty sure people do care about the theme, especially the person who made it! Y'all should think before you say things like this. Don't hurt Ithi's feelings dangit!!!

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Will Note seems odd to say to a teammate 

 

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 1:01 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Following on that, DPR was saying that my speculation was distracting. I think that is a cheap take as most adult people can think.about.more.than one.thing at a time. Furthermore the return talk was not inquiry trying to actually understand the possible why, it was spec talk bad, therefore I was a bad villager. This is a bit of a simplification but I hope you get my point. To my memory Cass never really gave a reason. And Dice admitted his vote was bad. Maybe I will have a look.

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Nothing Dice take 

 

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 2:13 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

I suggest you pull your head in and stop screaming at me. Like right now.

 

you say you said you werent saying you were Washington and expect that someone else wont take that as you saying you arnt Washington? seriously? 

 

And i didnt say you SAID you were LD, I said youve been representing that you are. With all the song and dance youve been doing about it how else should i characterize it?

 

Lied? How about the fact you said you werent going to claim. But you did and in a weird spot. Try telling me otherwise? As for softing roles before? i believe i said Its not something i remember you doing.

 

 

 

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  On 4/4/2025 at 10:52 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

I dont give a DAMN whether the mod has a problem with it or not. I have a problem with being spoken to like that. And im telling you not to do it.

 

 

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Both these posts feel pretty Dicey like real Dicey tho I can't fully rule out he could make them as Scum but..Town feels slightly more likely to me?

[Zander?]

  On 4/13/2025 at 9:47 PM, Gudrean said:

what do you mean by this?

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  On 4/13/2025 at 9:48 PM, Gudrean said:

talk me through it please

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It's similar ish tho not the exact same as about Seph last night not getting into it ITT maybe post game maybe in private maybe never..... LOLOLOLOL 

 

#Zandering

 

This nothing I could talk you through nor a response you could make to alter it.

 

Like with Seph it by itself doesn't make you the alignment itself.

[dicetosser1]

Well it’s not me and it’s not you Zander so that makes it pretty obvious 

 

here’s my thinking 

 

one of the mafia teams had more then the other . That or Cass Turin was scum

 

 

zander. And I haven’t done the math, when you said about town having less then half, we’re you counting seph as 3p or mafia?

 

so the kill.  I think gud is on the British team. Only way the seph kill makes sense

 

she HAD to leave me alive because she needs a mislynch. 
 

so she had to kill either you or seph and tbh it probably doesn’t matter which cause neither of you seemed likely to side with me over her. And seph had a possibility of being scum where you don’t. 
 

for me on the other hand. I’m just screwed no matter what. Seph never lynched gud imo. You would have sided with seph automatically over me ( this thinking is pre your %post this morning) you probably would choose gud over me even if it’s just because it’s me and lolololol

 

in last nights situation I kill you every time. While I have a CHANCE of convincing you, it’s a small one

 

plus if I’m scum and basically dead and I have a gun… do you REALLY think you live longer then me?