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On 12/13/2020 at 2:59 PM, Elder_Haman said:

I could get behind some of this. I feel like Ba'alzamon/Ishamael/Moridin is too central to the core of the series mythology to change him that dramatically. That doesn't mean he can't be improved. He should not face Rand directly until the Stone of Tear, however, having directed the action from afar until that point. (He does not ever have to be Ba'alzamon, just take that role of haunting Rand's dreams).

 

I'm a bit torn on that as well, since the fight at the Stone is rather epic. My other thought was to transfer Moridin's role to Demandred. The only reason I think the show might consider this is because Demandred's relationship with LTT is deeply personal and might be more interesting to explore. 

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6 hours ago, Carebear Sedai said:

I'm a bit torn on that as well, since the fight at the Stone is rather epic. My other thought was to transfer Moridin's role to Demandred. The only reason I think the show might consider this is because Demandred's relationship with LTT is deeply personal and might be more interesting to explore. 

I'll be interested to see whether they make LTT's relationships with all of the Forsaken more explicit on screen. The whole Rand/LTT dynamic is going to be tough to pull off - some lengthy LTT flashbacks could be a way they choose to go. Using those scenes to humanize some of the Forsaken could go a long way to making them less cartoonish and more 3 dimensional as villains. I'm not sure I'd go that route, but it's definitely a choice they could make.  

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I could see them using flashbacks with some of the forsaken, particularly Demandred, Sammael, Ishamael and of course Lanfear. I don't know about Be'lal because he's basically blink and you're dead before Rand has any memories. As for the others, he didn't know them personally, did he?

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13 minutes ago, mistborn82 said:

I could see them using flashbacks with some of the forsaken, particularly Demandred, Sammael, Ishamael and of course Lanfear. I don't know about Be'lal because he's basically blink and you're dead before Rand has any memories. As for the others, he didn't know them personally, did he?

 

He at least knew of them all during the Age of Legends, no? And they may retcon some of the other backgrounds to bring them closer to LTT's orbit.

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On 10/2/2020 at 11:19 AM, Elder_Haman said:

I like the ideas, but I don't think the Gholam-Semirhage idea is good, it takes away a good mat moment and doesn't make that much sense for the continuity, semirhage would have to not kill mat which seems impossible, then get rand after. It does fit where tylin gets tortured before murdered, which makes mat angry. Also I think sammael would need some channeling, because his wards are the reason rand doesn't just bomb the place, and so he couldn't be assasinated. Demandred stays, he's good. But have moghedien and graendal the same person, have moghedien killed while in captivity by moghedien, anyone can kill her, and give more reputation to one of the forsaken. Finally, one idea is to have balthemal ressurected and him and sammael (non channeling version) working together to take over illian. Also add some crazy shadowspawn that aginor makes, he literally made the trollocs, which created myrdaal, so he should show off his skills instead of being accidentally killed by a no-name black ajah.

 

 

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I've started watching the WOT UP videos as we get closer to more content and am watching his Foresaken analysis and I agree with some. As cool as 13 would be, I think some have to be combined so audiences don't just yawn at the villains. Although he's blink and dead, I don't think Be'lal can be merged because I think you need to show Moraines awesomeness and not have him escape. I like his theory about Demandred but I don't know how many new sharan scenes they'll have time for, not to mention Taim.

He also has a theory I more or less agree with that Mrs. Grinwell is Mesaana. I think she's either her or Lanfear because I don't see why you cast anyone other than extras for someone who appears once, same with her father. Given the plot of Els in the books,  probably not fleshed out, I think Lanfear or Mesaana.

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