Safari mafia [basic] - game thread

[Cory Caboose]

Most of the Lenlo stuff is not his content but just stuff that makes me think he's very unlikely w/w with AJ.

[Shad_]

  On 2/8/2018 at 5:00 AM, Cory Caboose said:

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Darthe

 

Amega

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This is exactly where I was at before I started reading, thought I'd keep it to myself to not influence what you were thinking and see if it comes out the same heh

 

Rereading stuff didn't really change anything besides increased amega convictions, but I also really half-assed it.  /shrug

[Niniel]

Yay! I need to re-read for myself and I hope I get the time tonight.  

I don’t like that BG is trying to go after me or Arie. Why would any of us buss in that situation? 

Like I said, I need to read the thread again, but that list from Marsh that Cory posted looks good. 

[Arie]

So, in my defense.. And I won't do this often. I'm used to one player making last hour votes and bouncing around, not actually 'helping town' because town never switches in time. It's just.. unhelpful. Often times i'll chase them down for a bloody town murder for being a useless town. 

 

Cory.. I'm not convinced your town? That could have been one hell of a gambit getting just 1-2 people to fly your way... but damn, I can't not refute that meta game.

[Arie]

Also, going after me is a red herring. It's adorable... but I muddy the waters by being new, but chasing me just means I'm an easy target...? But I ain't that easy. (ish...)

[Niniel]

  On 2/8/2018 at 4:43 AM, Cory Caboose said:

I don't think Niniel even knows why I read her the way I do.

I'm not even sure I know.

 

It's one of the great mafia mysteries of DM.

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A mystery... it feels like you are in my head. *scared*

[bgrishinko]

  On 2/8/2018 at 6:32 AM, Niniel said:

Yay! I need to re-read for myself and I hope I get the time tonight.  

I don’t like that BG is trying to go after me or Arie. Why would any of us buss in that situation? 

Like I said, I need to read the thread again, but that list from Marsh that Cory posted looks good. 

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Because if I were mafia I'd probably bus in that situation. 

[amegakure]

I think i might just be bad at being a villager. 

[Cory Caboose]

  On 2/8/2018 at 6:34 AM, Arie said:

Cory.. I'm not convinced your town? That could have been one hell of a gambit getting just 1-2 people to fly your way.

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[Cory Caboose]

  On 2/8/2018 at 9:25 AM, amegakure said:

I think i might just be bad at being a villager. 

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If you’re v sorry for the misread. What are your thoughts on the game currently?

[Kaylee]

  On 2/8/2018 at 4:40 AM, Cory Caboose said:

I know have Niniel's full progression on AJ in mind and

A) Niniel has problems with AJ on her own, and agrees to vote him with me (second vote on AJ) right as AJ returns to the thread and attempts talk me out of his read. Even if at some point, AJ did indeed accept his lynch, he certainly hadn't accepted it at that point, as he then would be in the thread for a solid hour trying to alleviate the pressure on him and seem "relaxed" (etc.) - I find it fundamentally unbelievable that AJ would've encouraged a bus / given up before this, because at the time Lenlo was still the lead wagon and AJ is the kind of person who can easily talk himself out of a lynch / buy another day in a lot of circumstances.

 

B) Niniel is fluid with all of her reads, and her internal rationale for voting AJ is very much in line with how she approaches the game as a villager. She is unsettled that AJ is complacent, is posting without really having much impact with his posts, and has maintained a vote on Lenlo (a "kickstarter" vote, by AJ's own admission) without really considering moving forward with it.

 

She's my second strongest villager after Shad.

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Very good points. Helps me move her up. 

 

Cory and Shad are town. Their coordinated efforts to getting AJ lynched tells me that. I like their current discussion on interactions with AJ to shift through who looks like potential teammates. 

 

Still haven't seen anything from Marsh that takes him out of Null. Amega looks bad, I agree. I just have a nagging suspicion he's a scummy villager... keep going back and forth there in my head. So ill put him null to scummy. 

 

@Arie I didn't grab the post but yesterday you said I was being buddy buddy. If you meant friendly that's a personality thing since I chat with and have played others games with most these guys and gals. Plus I like being friendly. If you meant buddying please give examples and I'll show you how that wasn't the case. 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

Kaylee can you walk me through your progression on Lenlo?

 

I know you were thought AJ would become ~more obvious as the game went on

 

I’m just surprised it landed specifically on Lenlo

[Kaylee]

  On 2/8/2018 at 4:50 AM, Cory Caboose said:

 

 

 

bleh, i know she explained it to some extent but considering the timing and her previous stances re: Lenlo this does bother the hell out of me :/

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As I said before I voted and then later to Marsh post flip I believe. I felt Leno and AJ would show their true colors with time and wanted to give it to them. I also stated that I would change my vote for consolidation. I wasn't fully caught up, I saw the Leno train and AJ train building and didn't know the current VC. I didn't want to hammer so went with Leno hoping I was tying the trains. Partly to consolidate and partly to see who then changed/ voted to ensure a lynch. 

[Kaylee]

  On 2/8/2018 at 1:07 PM, Cory Caboose said:

Kaylee can you walk me through your progression on Lenlo?

 

I know you were thought AJ would become ~more obvious as the game went on

 

I’m just surprised it landed specifically on Lenlo

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Felt the same on Leno. Nothing stood out for me to place him beyond Null. So I figured in time he'll show his hand. I had thought by now he'd come in with thoughts or a list or something. Maybe he will D2? If not he's in the WTL category. As for why I voted him after saying I wouldn't, well I posted that just after your above post. 

 

Basically I didn't want to potentially vote sometime who could be not only town, but would be an asset as town.  When he's town and shows it I find myself nodding along or even seeing things the way he presents them... realizing I need to re look at someone. 

[Cory Caboose]

Kk ty kay <3

[Kaylee]

 welcome

[amegakure]

  On 2/8/2018 at 12:21 PM, Cory Caboose said:

 

If you’re v sorry for the misread. What are your thoughts on the game currently?

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Didn't really get a chance to re read at work just saw aj flip and didn't really see it coming. Need to go back now. Im feeling better about you and shad. Not sure on Aiere. Gonna read through what i missed

 

[Shad_]

amega can you walk me through what you were thinking leading into your vote yesterday?

[amegakure]

  On 2/5/2018 at 11:23 PM, Darthe said:

Isn't a game set in Africa joke enough?

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This is just nasty.

  On 2/6/2018 at 4:30 AM, Ironeyes said:

Is that a scummy boi hardclaim

 

Lol this is already getting old and I've only said it twice

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This seemed like it could fill as fluff but it Felt odd to me.

  On 2/6/2018 at 5:54 PM, Andrej said:

alright well im up and moving and have coffee in hand so I guess we can do this finally

 

if we’re picking names out of a jar of who not to lynch D1, I got Darthe

 

 

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I don't like this. I feel like we should have seen more from darthe on a few of the interactions by eod. Could be Walt distancing from aj.

  On 2/6/2018 at 5:55 PM, Andrej said:

Arie is my second choice

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Same as above.

  On 2/6/2018 at 8:39 PM, Niniel said:

Bf has stolen my laptop and I just can’t play on my phone. I need my notes just to remember who is playing this game. 

 

First impressions: 

I like Kaylee.

Shad is confusing and not in a good way. 

Arie looks good so far. I’m a little bit worried that his vote on Cory is early distancing. 

I find it strange that Marsh wanted to defend Darthe this early when it wasn’t needed. 

 

Well, that’s what  I can manage on phone. I get my laptop tomorrow morning and hope that there aren’t too much to read then. 

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Didn't seem to have anything to say about aj at this point or me. I feel like we were the main focus. So imo opinion it doesnt feel real. Doesnt state how shad is confusing. Likes arie.. Implies both could be scum. 

 

  On 2/7/2018 at 1:14 AM, Darthe said:

So you think town?

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I believe this was between aj about arie. 

  On 2/7/2018 at 6:23 PM, Andrej said:

 

Darthe was my attempt to add something beyond the circle of Kaylee/Shad/Cory town reads. It was off the cuff but semi-serious. After his latest postings I still feel pretty good about that. In BFG’s game he was super hyperactive almost to an exaggerated point which made me think he was scum. I don’t get that vibe at all this game.

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I feel like he is actually strangely inactive at this point and not up to his normal stuff. Perhaps an over correction. 

  On 2/7/2018 at 8:58 PM, Andrej said:

Yeah I’m actually super tempted to wagon Nini. That switch from me to Lenlo was super opportunistic. I just saw on last page she mentioned that I haven’t moved my vote yet which is a pretty generic reason imo. I think if she was genuinely interested in my progression she could figure it out and also see that I spoke again on the subject when I got back today.

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Could be distancing Ninel after having her jump on his wagon When he knew it was over. 

 

[amegakure]

  On 2/8/2018 at 2:19 PM, Shad_ said:

amega can you walk me through what you were thinking leading into your vote yesterday?

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Yea i read how you guys felt after the flip. And im definitely to blame for not being more clear. I was tired and lasy at that point. 

 

I didnt really want to vote you or cory i just wanted to bring up my concerns and get a discussion going. I did feel aj was a villager but more of a feel than based on his actions. I usually don't over exert my self as scum and i didn't see any other lynches as a viable option. I could have held my vote but i felt like that would be kinda meh. 

[amegakure]

What i mean by don't over exert is that i don't post much and just do damage control and post here and there when risk/reward is worth it. The more i say the shorter my noose gets either way so why try as scum.  Which is why i said i go full lenlo. Plus i think in a set up of  8/3 we need people to contribute after the fluff is done. 

[Shad_]

Maybe just maybe we should trust the people who lynched a wolf yesterday.  Like, that is town's wincon.  It's not too wild to believe that villagers might play towards it.

[amegakure]

I feel i can trust you and Corey and i think Kaylee. I'll need more evidence for everyone else but that's what i got. 

 

[Niniel]

  On 2/8/2018 at 3:31 PM, Shad_ said:

Maybe just maybe we should trust the people who lynched a wolf yesterday.  Like, that is town's wincon.  It's not too wild to believe that villagers might play towards it.

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Quote of the day! 

[Shad_]

Cory is as good as mod confirmed town and so am I, frankly.

 

I'm telling you I feel pretty strongly that Niniel is town and Cory is telling you the same x10, with very thorough and detailed reasons.

 

We caught a wolf yesterday so we're obviously not just boasting out our asses without a basis in logic and meta experience.

 

It's hard for me to swallow that all of the people pushing the "you two are wrong, Niniel's probably a wolf" line right after AJ's flip can be villagers.  But enough have dropped it that they can't all be wolves.  If our present POE does not generate a town win (possible) it is still highly unlikely that the deepwolf is her.  If you can't fortify yourselves a bit, scum will use this window of fear to lynch her late game when we are out of the picture and we will lose for it.