Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Ironeyes]

Well I guess that means we gotta do something useful instead of sitting and waiting. But I don't know what to do. We've been going around in circles and coming back every time to Darthe/Wifi/Kat. 

[Tiinker]

Lol 

[Zander?]

Well I guess that means we gotta do something useful instead of sitting and waiting. But I don't know what to do. We've been going around in circles and coming back every time to Darthe/Wifi/Kat. 

 

[Zander?]

[Ironeyes]

Ya

[Hallia]

I did not get to read at all today -.-

 

I'll catch up as soon as I'm home

[Zander?]

Ya

 

No need to waste our time tho.

 

Talk to me.

 

If Kats Scum which I likely think is Scum who is her partner and why?

 

If she happens to be Town who wouldb be next and their partner and why?

 

This goes to everyone please!!!!

[Shad_]

[Zander?]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Darthe]

sigh whatever

[Zander?]

sigh whatever

 

 

 

Ya

 

No need to waste our time tho.

 

Talk to me.

 

If Kats Scum which I likely think is Scum who is her partner and why?

 

If she happens to be Town who wouldb be next and their partner and why?

 

This goes to everyone please!!!!

 

 

Come on now Darthe chin up!!!!!!

[Zander?]

I did not get to read at all today -.-

 

I'll catch up as soon as I'm home

 

HALLIA!!!!!!!

 

WORDS AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hallia]

One question - has Kat posted today?

[Cass]

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! I got sleeeeeeeeeep!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Couple of things I wanna discuss before we choose where we go tonight/end phase etc

 

What roles should we discuss? People are close to the point tha full claiming makes sense, but its overall pretty clear how the game is structured imo

It's not to me tbqh, and it's really important for Town that we understand imo.

 

What I basically want to know is how likely is it that Town has a Cop and/or Doc?

 

If we have either, keeping Z and I alive tonight is especially beneficial to game solve. And I don't want to trust it to a 25% chance if we happen to be the target.

 

I'll need Z to confirm but I think our best bet will be to go to the stedding. The problem with this is it may leave doc exposed.

 

Another option I see (if Darthe is telling the truth AND if his role protects his target from NAs) is that we go to TAR and he commutes us. This seems overly risky to me atp considering I don't yet trust Darthe.

 

No one has claimed pulling Kat to Tel, correct?

 

Anyone there last night say they'd chosen Stedding?

 

 

Nope/correct. Anyone in the Stedding claim they chose TAR n2?

 

And while we're at it. Is the role likely to be Town/Scum aligned?

 

 

The marsh vote spelled me I'm pulling over to mention this. I'm androl, I am a commuter, I can self clear kinda.

  

 

I can't work my power in a stedding, its why I abstained from being in a group but its apparently not an option

Why weren't you in TAR last night, given the bold?

[Darthe]

I'm beyond tired, sorry.  This game just isn't super motivating for me atm and I don't like the wait to see how I have to handle tomorrow.

[Shad_]

One question - has Kat posted today?

 

Kat said she would be busy and not available for the next few days

[Zander?]

One question - has Kat posted today?

 

NO

[Darthe]

I can't commute others Cass, just me.  If I could commute others I would have hard CC'd Hally.

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit.  I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time.  Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

[Zander?]

I can't commute others Cass, just me.  If I could commute others I would have hard CC'd Hally.

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit.  I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time.  Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

 

If Doc is a fake scum role claim i will not be a happy human being.

[Cass]

I've been thinking about Kat/Darthe interactions wrt this

 

 

 

@ whoever asked me why I prefer Kat over Darthe (forgot who it was) 

It mostly comes down to participation in TAR. Kat said very little, but Darthe was clearly scumhunting. He was contributing plenty to our discussion about roles, and I see no reason to FOS him for not choosing a place to go at night. That's just an oversight. 

 

One more thing that just occurred to me. We're all scratching our heads about why didn't the scum send a rep to the Stedding last night since it looks like everyone there was town. But Kat said she chose the stedding and ended up in TAR anyway. So if she's scum then they were planning on having one on each side at least: JS in TAR, Kat in the Stedding. Just a possibility.

because someone pulling me into TAR was totally a good guy when the only people that would be able to do that are DEFINITELY bad. That makes no sense. I am totally being set up. I wasn't talkative in TAR because there was nothing to say and the majority of the time in there was at night. The part where ya'll actually talked was almost ALL at night. After i got there everyone shut up. I guess I should have talked to myself.

 

 

I am Elyas Machera. I have a 1xTrack in the Stedding and I am VT in TAR. Which is why I wanted to go to Stedding last night. What I don't get is how I went to TAR still and why of ALL people they would target me to make me stay...

 

 

****unless maybe scum has a role cop?****

 

At first I took the bold above as AtE/WIFOM from a likely scum suspect - it seemed overly directed after this reveal:

 

 

John Snow was 

Welcome Moghedian the Spider, a Forsaken preferring to collapse civilisation from withinYou are a member of the mafiaEach day you must choose to spend the night in Tel'Aran'Rhiod or a stedding.In the stedding you have no extra abilities. ******In Tel'Aran'Rhiod you may investigate one player and learn their role (role cop)*****

 

Given that Darthe has claimed a 'commuter' that can only activate in TAR, what are the chances Darthe and Kat set this up as WW to 'clear' one or the other later versus the chance that Wolf Darthe used the power on V Kat to let Scum buddy JS view her role?

 

And are we still happy taking Kat down first if they're WW?

 

The way I see it is if Darthe's a wolf and his role is to commute players to other destinations/the destination he's at, leaving him alive means the wolf team/he could transport the Doc away from targets to make saves impossible without killing them (increasing WIFOM on the claimed Doc who continues living) and still succeeding with a NK.

 

If he's a wolf I think we eliminate him first.

[Cass]

I can't commute others Cass, just me.  If I could commute others I would have hard CC'd Hally.

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit.  I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time.  Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

Interesting. Why would you have drawn a NK when you were one of the top trains for a lynch the day before?

[Cass]

I'm beyond tired, sorry.  This game just isn't super motivating for me atm and I don't like the wait to see how I have to handle tomorrow.

We could just lynch you? :p

[Cass]

Z am I crazy? Do you still prefer Kat?

 

Halleh?

 

Shad?

 

Tink?

 

Marsh?

 

Iron?

 

WiFi?

 

Kat?

 

Darthe?

 

 

I want all of you to input on this.

[Zander?]

Wanna see how he responds CassGOATENFPMUSICTWIN!!!!

 

Also interesting Kat apparently assumed a Role Cop when it was already listed as well.

 

I said Kat or Darthe today, they BOTH have to be resolved imo.

[Shad_]

I typed a few things that I didn't bother posting.

 

Lynch Darthe over Kat if you think Darthe is more likely to flip wolf than Kat.

 

If you're equally convinced that both are wolves, the order is irrelevant.