Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

@ Shad, were were you getting your idea of WolfKat reactions from?

From Eldrick's multiball game, and I pulled it up to compare again when I saw her reads list and honestly this is not something I can properly focus on with kids screaming at me and a DL 30 minutes away. Expectation of aggro/jokey dismissal in an awkward sort of way and I'm not seeing it here in a way that reaches out and grabs me but her posts aren't screaming villager either. Wish I could have talked to her over the weekend but it is what it is.

Ironeyes · September 26, 2016

I was referring to how often Believer says he "dismantled" every case against him. I kinda don't think he did that, at least not in my definition of "dismantle"

Zander? · September 26, 2016

I see the passion ITT - no Zander, after reading up I don't think Kat is scum.

this does not strike me as passionate or upset imo.

Believer · September 26, 2016

in the thread. try reading.

you have been FAR too certain in ure statements. Especially about things you shouldnt know. you were absolutely certain there was ONE mafia in the QT when there could have been any number. and then you didnt dig in D1 or in the QT hell in the QT u just mathsd and whinged that i stole ure thought

I've mechanically come to my conclusions, which is spelled out in the QT. If you disagree you should give it to me straight.

I said in the QT that there will be -at least- one scum in here. I conceded the point that there could be more than one but disagreed that it was probable on the grounds that scum roles seems stronger in T'A'R. Your argument here is simply false.

Katiora · September 26, 2016

Zander I'm seriously about to give up. You're not gonna give me a chance, you're going to push the lynch on me and no one else is going to show up to change it. Darthe is gonna vote me for self preservation and Beleiver is gonna continue to scum it up and you will ignore him because he isn't that scummy in the QT, I have given my reads list which you haven't looked at that i can tell besides to tell me I forgot to paste tiink on it.

Believer · September 26, 2016

I was referring to how often Believer says he "dismantled" every case against him. I kinda don't think he did that, at least not in my definition of "dismantle"

I refuted the points that the case had. I consider that dismantled.

Believer · September 26, 2016

Darthe for lynch.

Katiora · September 26, 2016

I was referring to how often Believer says he "dismantled" every case against him. I kinda don't think he did that, at least not in my definition of "dismantle"

Oh i know lololololol but it made me think of the princess bride

Darthe · September 26, 2016

The WIM is strong in Kat, don't have any meta to what that mean though.

Suspicious lack of WIM in Darthe.

Have I not been here talking for like an hour? I was unawRe that this, as opposed to three to five posts from kat, could warrant that I have less wim

Ironeyes · September 26, 2016

I was referring to how often Believer says he "dismantled" every case against him. I kinda don't think he did that, at least not in my definition of "dismantle"

Oh i know lololololol but it made me think of the princess bride

YEah, you were right, That's exactly what I was quoting.

Katiora · September 26, 2016

I see the passion ITT - no Zander, after reading up I don't think Kat is scum.

this does not strike me as passionate or upset imo.

Zander at this point I'm not caring how stuff strikes you. I'm still trying to have a LITTLE fun in this game that has me wanting to pull my hair out and throw my computer.

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

why is it so dead 2 hrs before dl?

because scum is content to sit back and let ya'll mislynch me.

the players that have struck me as fairly quiet lately are Tiink and Halli maybe Iron. Really doubt Iron at least is a wolf, but did you follow through on this thought at all?

Not something a villager necessarily follows through on right away, but I'm curious

Darthe · September 26, 2016

Zander I'm seriously about to give up. You're not gonna give me a chance, you're going to push the lynch on me and no one else is going to show up to change it. Darthe is gonna vote me for self preservation and Beleiver is gonna continue to scum it up and you will ignore him because he isn't that scummy in the QT, I have given my reads list which you haven't looked at that i can tell besides to tell me I forgot to paste tiink on it.

Arent you voting me over believe? Im voting you over believe because I dont have the votes on believe. I dont care about you.

Zander? · September 26, 2016

Zander I've addressed the sheeping. I did. It's there. If I don't agree with you I"m not gonna sheep If I have another opinion. The times I've sheeped you are times when I have felt completely clueless. I didn't feel clueless. I felt and STILL feel like believer is a wolf. WHY WOULD I SHEEP YOU? WHYYYYYYYY??????

Because I was right for starters???

AND STOP FOCUSING ON SHEEPING ALONE

you stated YOURSELF you found her scummy AND AGREED with the reasons I had for sussing her but wouldnt vote her. I know obv hindsight is 20/20 but still.

You state you hate D1 but trust your read over mine....its just weird Kat.

Not what you normally do.

No I said I couldn't find anything towny. I didn't agree with everything you said being scummy was in and of itself as scummy as you made it out to be. I thought it was very possible that it was a problem with interactions. I was wrong. I will admit that. I didn't condemn you for voting her, I just really thought that Believer was scummier. And I am focusing on sheeping because that's what you keep posting, or the main part of what I understand of what you keep posting.

And I'm sorry I didn't know i'm not allowed to use my own intellect.

I pretty much just policy lynch AJ if he's in the game.. it doesn't matter what he does... >.>

I kid I kid... kinda. Though I've joked about policy lynching him in almost every game since the one that we wolfed together in.. and every game I didn't.. and every game he was scum lololololol

Ok so as far as reads. I'm not gonna quote the whole list, so if I leave someone off they're Null, cause I"m lazy and busy.

Zass (Zander/Cass) - It's hard for me to imagine Zander as anything but town from his play so far. Of course that could just be because I wanna sheep him *shrugs*

Hallia - I want to see more from. She does seem towny from what she's posted, but I know from experience she's good at appearing towny d1 as scum. So Town lean but that's about it.

WIfi - seems her usual self. This is reassuring after the last game she came in and at first didn't know how to act, which for me was a bigger give away than most took it as. Most likely she's town here. Though the last game could have just taught her how to fake it better lol

And it goes downhill from here lol.

Darthe I'm just not sure about. I always have a hard time reading him though, mostly I think because he's slightly..... abrasive? That word will work.. *shrugs*

Shad - Seems slightly defensive, but I've seen him do that as town so idk. It'd be an easy thing to do as scum to though so he's mostly null.

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk.

Marsh - I don't think i'll ever be able to read him on D1. Or maybe ever... Both games I've played with him he's looked fairly similar and seemed scum, but last game I know he was town so maybe i'm just reading him wrong.

Hellian - I don't know. He's new so I don't know how to take him yet. I'm currently reserving judgement because I think some of his stuff that "seems" scummy could just be from him being new and not knowing people and not knowing how to take different people, but could come from scum.

Who else is in this game? I just went totally blank.

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer...

Well I plan on being here until deadline. Honestly if Hellian doesn't at least show up to defend I may switch. I must admit I would have expected SOME kind of activity.

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

would it really help my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah.

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe.

Obv I KNOW I can be wrong Kat.

But for you to have me as a Top Town read and likes to sheep me, but not alarms me.

Honestly on this one I'm afraid you got stuck in the tunnel and I don't know if I can trust your thoughts on the matter. And while a lot of the time I "sheep" you... I do it for my own reasons not always for yours lol. This time I don't have a reason besides hellian's fight with you. And her disappearing. Honestly If she doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes I will probably switch my vote. I think it's very poor play on any side not to at least show up for deadline. And it it more than slightly scummy. Though Honestly you might have just scared her off lol

Same reasons I had for sussing her imo

Darthe · September 26, 2016

Darthe for lynch.

You best make sure you kill me

dicetosser1 · September 26, 2016

im starting to think kats a townie

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

One general thing I've disliked is this huge focus on swaying Zander. It's been a thing since she first showed up and while Zander's a loudmouth he doesn't have five votes.

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

Zander at this point I'm not caring how stuff strikes you. I'm still trying to have a LITTLE fun in this game that has me wanting to pull my hair out and throw my computer.

This post is kind of villagery

Zander? · September 26, 2016

Zander I'm seriously about to give up. You're not gonna give me a chance, you're going to push the lynch on me and no one else is going to show up to change it. Darthe is gonna vote me for self preservation and Beleiver is gonna continue to scum it up and you will ignore him because he isn't that scummy in the QT, I have given my reads list which you haven't looked at that i can tell besides to tell me I forgot to paste tiink on it.

I read it.

I dont think Kat would use this AtE at me as Scum.

I dont think....i dunno

Katiora · September 26, 2016

Zander I've addressed the sheeping. I did. It's there. If I don't agree with you I"m not gonna sheep If I have another opinion. The times I've sheeped you are times when I have felt completely clueless. I didn't feel clueless. I felt and STILL feel like believer is a wolf. WHY WOULD I SHEEP YOU? WHYYYYYYYY??????

Because I was right for starters???

AND STOP FOCUSING ON SHEEPING ALONE

you stated YOURSELF you found her scummy AND AGREED with the reasons I had for sussing her but wouldnt vote her. I know obv hindsight is 20/20 but still.

You state you hate D1 but trust your read over mine....its just weird Kat.

Not what you normally do.

No I said I couldn't find anything towny. I didn't agree with everything you said being scummy was in and of itself as scummy as you made it out to be. I thought it was very possible that it was a problem with interactions. I was wrong. I will admit that. I didn't condemn you for voting her, I just really thought that Believer was scummier. And I am focusing on sheeping because that's what you keep posting, or the main part of what I understand of what you keep posting.

And I'm sorry I didn't know i'm not allowed to use my own intellect.

I pretty much just policy lynch AJ if he's in the game.. it doesn't matter what he does... >.>

I kid I kid... kinda. Though I've joked about policy lynching him in almost every game since the one that we wolfed together in.. and every game I didn't.. and every game he was scum lololololol

Ok so as far as reads. I'm not gonna quote the whole list, so if I leave someone off they're Null, cause I"m lazy and busy.

Zass (Zander/Cass) - It's hard for me to imagine Zander as anything but town from his play so far. Of course that could just be because I wanna sheep him *shrugs*

Hallia - I want to see more from. She does seem towny from what she's posted, but I know from experience she's good at appearing towny d1 as scum. So Town lean but that's about it.

WIfi - seems her usual self. This is reassuring after the last game she came in and at first didn't know how to act, which for me was a bigger give away than most took it as. Most likely she's town here. Though the last game could have just taught her how to fake it better lol

And it goes downhill from here lol.

Darthe I'm just not sure about. I always have a hard time reading him though, mostly I think because he's slightly..... abrasive? That word will work.. *shrugs*

Shad - Seems slightly defensive, but I've seen him do that as town so idk. It'd be an easy thing to do as scum to though so he's mostly null.

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk.

Marsh - I don't think i'll ever be able to read him on D1. Or maybe ever... Both games I've played with him he's looked fairly similar and seemed scum, but last game I know he was town so maybe i'm just reading him wrong.

Hellian - I don't know. He's new so I don't know how to take him yet. I'm currently reserving judgement because I think some of his stuff that "seems" scummy could just be from him being new and not knowing people and not knowing how to take different people, but could come from scum.

Who else is in this game? I just went totally blank.

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer...

Well I plan on being here until deadline. Honestly if Hellian doesn't at least show up to defend I may switch. I must admit I would have expected SOME kind of activity.

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

would it really help my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah.

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe.

Obv I KNOW I can be wrong Kat.

But for you to have me as a Top Town read and likes to sheep me, but not alarms me.

Honestly on this one I'm afraid you got stuck in the tunnel and I don't know if I can trust your thoughts on the matter. And while a lot of the time I "sheep" you... I do it for my own reasons not always for yours lol. This time I don't have a reason besides hellian's fight with you. And her disappearing. Honestly If she doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes I will probably switch my vote. I think it's very poor play on any side not to at least show up for deadline. And it it more than slightly scummy. Though Honestly you might have just scared her off lol

Same reasons I had for sussing her imo

but the difference was I didn't think it was ENOUGH to lynch someone COMPLETELY new to DM on. Someone completely unknown that to the best of my knowledge NO ONE here has played with.

Ironeyes · September 26, 2016

Eeeh, based on which one I'd rather have as a confirmed townie in the night QT's, I'm gonna [v]Darthe[/v]. Kat can clear herself or condemn herself tomorrow, if she wants. We have more content from her to go by.

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

One general thing I've disliked is this huge focus on swaying Zander. It's been a thing since she first showed up and while Zander's a loudmouth he doesn't have five votes.

Point here being a villager getting voted by their top town read can be frustrating but my instinctive interest is to look for the justification of people I don't trust yet.

Katiora · September 26, 2016

Bleh and with the thing Believer just did I'm SOOO unsure about the Darthe/Believer thing.. Bleh Darthe might be town and just making me ill

Shad_ · September 26, 2016

why is it so dead 2 hrs before dl?
because scum is content to sit back and let ya'll mislynch me.

the players that have struck me as fairly quiet lately are Tiink and Halli maybe Iron. Really doubt Iron at least is a wolf, but did you follow through on this thought at all?

Not something a villager necessarily follows through on right away, but I'm curious

Actually has Believer been around, like, at all?

Darthe · September 26, 2016

Darthe for lynch.

You best make sure you kill me

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