Grim Frostbitten Scumlust -- MAFIA WINS

[Hallia]

Also - Cory might have been, but Nun sure wasn't.

[Hallia]

Nyn - darn you autocorrect

[alannalynn]

Oh well I really don't have time to fight a lynch today. 

 

I'm leaving my vote on Lenlo though, sussing Pral atm

[Hallia]

[v] Alanna [/v]

[alannalynn]

ok.

[Katiora]

lololololol the Nun.... it has happened the past 2 games. 

 

 

 

Ok on a more serious note. I need to ISO a few people. I don't feel good about a lenlo lynch at the present, but i'm really not sure where to go from here. I'll be back though this week will be a slow week for me because we have training for new software that's going live next week going on all week, but I will do my best. 

[Sooh]

 

I don't think that NK clears anyone. It looked like a strong player kill. Not even a cop hunt. 

 

If it was a cop hunt, Hallia is clear.

On the other hand, Corny revealed as town does look for some people. Namely Darthe and Crusher.

 

I don't see either of those going aggressive against Cory as scum. There is just no purpose to that. He was never going to be lynched. They would have just gotten heat unnecessarily by randomly going against town Corny.

 

I think pretty much everyone agrees that Darthe is town. 

 

Not sure I want to dish out townie points to Crusher for something that happened early D1.

[Sooh]

 

I don't think that NK clears anyone. It looked like a strong player kill. Not even a cop hunt. 

 

If it was a cop hunt, Hallia is clear.

Caught up fully.

 

Where I'm at:

 

Hallia

Alanna

Sooh

 

Darthe

Katiora

 

Dice

Crusher

 

~~~ THE LINE ~~~

 

NotBob

Graendal

Lenlo

 

Pralaya

 

Tiinker

 

</zandermode>

 

Getting some sleep, let's talk this over tomorrow

Going to prolly adopt these reads and carry the torch. 

 

I need more Dice and Kat to accept your spots on the list.

 

This is essentially wifom. Knowing my alignment and Tiink's, I don't agree with that Cory list at all. Most of his read for Tiinker was an associative read with me and I had never agreed to it earlier. He was looking at all the wrong spots.

 

I would break down the above list into three groups 

 

Hallia/Darthe/Crusher - Who I likely think are town

 

NotBob/Wifi(GF)/Lenlo - Cory's bottom list. I can see atleast 1 scum here.

 

Dice/Alanna/Sooh/Kat - This is the troublesome group. Sooh and Kat have some questionable posts on D1, as I had pointed out. Kat's vote on TIink especially was bad. Dice is better than the others in the group, I wouldn't give him free pass yet. I wouldn't be surprised if there are two scum in this group.

 

In a game with 3 scums and a list with 5 scum reads there are bound to be at least two townies. 

 

I am comfortable with Hallia and Darthe as town.

 

Next tier would be Alanna.

 

I'm going to give Dice and Kat the benefit of the doubt this round.

 

Crusher and NotBob are eh to me. NotBob probably better than Crusher, just because I think NotBob has made more of an effort to play the game and make reads.

 

Lenlo/Wifi/Pral are my bottom reads. 

 

I wish I had more on Wifi, because I feel like I should be able to read her fairly easily, but so far that's not the case. 

[Sooh]

I kind of have a spidey sense about Pral, but then I see him rethink a read that he has been stubborn on all game and now I'm just not sure.

 

 

Pral, if you're still here, can you tell me why Crusher is town with examples please?

[Darthe]

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

[Sooh]

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

Might follow you on that one, yeah. Disappearing is generally not a good sign.

 

I have the same feeling about Crusher. Where is he? He has no real presence in the game.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (2): Alanna, Darthe

Alanna (2): Pralaya, Hallia

 

Not Voting: Crusher, Katiora, Lenlo, GF, NotBob, Sooh, Dice

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Darthe]

 

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

Might follow you on that one, yeah. Disappearing is generally not a good sign.

 

I have the same feeling about Crusher. Where is he? He has no real presence in the game.

He is worth taking a look at but tbh that's just sorta how crush is usually

[Sooh]

 

 

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

Might follow you on that one, yeah. Disappearing is generally not a good sign.

 

I have the same feeling about Crusher. Where is he? He has no real presence in the game.

He is worth taking a look at but tbh that's just sorta how crush is usually

 

Ok. I don't know him very well. I may need some help reading him later.

[Darthe]

I dont have a ton of depth to my read on him, I just know that he does fall off like this sometimes and its not a particularly wolf thing from him.

 

Soih, im still a bit concerned about things between you and Layay. Ive got you both in my townie pile and I dont remotely get the infighting between yall.

[Lenlo]

Alanna, I havnt liked your cases and your general wim feels demotivated to me.

 

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

Once again, you say disappearing like ive been gone forever, when its only been half a day since I was last here. Your "Disappeared" would hold more weight if I actually left for a substantial amount of time.

 

We talking disappeared? What about Kat? Or Dice, oh wait hes asleep cause timezones so he doesnt count  ? What about Crusher? Soohs been gone awhile to. Have all of them disappeared or are you just picking me out for arbitrary reasons?

[Lenlo]

Oh theres Sooh. Missed that. Point still stands though

[Darthe]

Alanna, I havnt liked your cases and your general wim feels demotivated to me.

 

I isod dice and I still think im right bit i cant find good posts to really flesh out my read atm. Its bugging the hell out of me. In any case, im going [v] len [/v] as he has again disappeared

Once again, you say disappearing like ive been gone forever, when its only been half a day since I was last here. Your "Disappeared" would hold more weight if I actually left for a substantial amount of time.

 

We talking disappeared? What about Kat? Or Dice, oh wait hes asleep cause timezones so he doesnt count ? What about Crusher? Soohs been gone awhile to. Have all of them disappeared or are you just picking me out for arbitrary reasons?

Valid on kat, I forget she is here, but that doesnt justify your absenteeism or severe lack of content.while you are here. You pop in, defend, and leave it seems. Thats a wolf len trait of i know one.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Okay so I am posting a couple at a time incase they generate any questions before deadline.  I know darthe has questioned my read of him, will answer in a minute...gonna get caught up first (if anyone posted anything new)

 

 

1. Darthe -- DONE

2. Tiinker - Famine, Vanilla Town - Lynched D1

3. Hallia - DONE

4. Alanna - null 

5. Pralaya - null 

5. Crusher - null

6. Katiora - null

7. Lenlo - DONE

8. Corny (Cory + Nyn) - Fenriz, Vanilla Town - Killed N1

9.  Wifi - TOWN QUEENIE

10. NotBob - null 

11. Sooh - null - slight townie - D1 joke posts and votes kat, more joke posts, a weird video and more joke posts, doesn't agree with hallia about kat's post of who's posted in game, responds to pralaya's read on her as scummy and too goodie goodie, talks about cory pocketing people, more joke posts, says she likes how pralaya is playing the game [in a nutshell], says that hallia and tiinker's avi's are so similiar, asks tiink if he agrees with pralaya about her being scummy, asks hallia to talk about her kat read, explains to cory why she felt corny to be scummy then changes her mind to them being townie and gives darthe townie points as well, asks cory about his kat read, mollifies nyn about her posts were always townie, responds to nyn's post on tiink about him being scummy, votes tiink, wonders how to read GF, reminds nyn about the question about kat, validates nyn's post defending kat, not willing to lynch kat on weekend, responds to cory's post about a pral/sooh thing, she says it would make sense if they were both wolves but shes not so, says she's not good at reading dice (is talking to darthe), waiting for dice to wake up and post, comments about GF being entertaining, asks tiink about reads besides ones of darthe and pral as town and herself as scum, asks alanna what she means when alanna says sooh can have tiink, responds to tiinks question about is that all there is to why you are voting me, joke posts, asks alanna why lenlo over tiink, asks dice how he feels about her slot, says its len or tiink tonight, GF or whoever tomorrow, looks like tiinker lolcatting TWL bleh, says can hang lenlo tomorrow D2  going to adopt cory's reads and needs more dice and kat posts, asks dice about those below the line, welcomes me, doesn't think a team could have stopped GF, will wait for me to post my thoughts then evaluate, misunderstands one of my posts, asks why I think darthe is scummy, asks for more insight, present aorn. I think sooh is townie because she has put herself out there with the joke posts and vote (and yes I know others have as well ) , asks and responds to questions, seems really trying to solve.

    

12. Dice - null - slight townie D1 says GF is town, responds to the jokes about speed lynching him, arguing with cory, joke posts, comments about nyn being too happy to be scum and alanna being grouchy so could be scum cause she doesn't like being scum , responds to hallia about GF being town and alanna about the "blatant lie" post, puts hallia on town list, posts reads list with GF as top town, conversing in thread, argues with pral about wording, tells about reasons to vote lenlo then votes lenlo, doesn't like that pral voted lenlo after alanna voted tiink so he unvotes and votes tiink, asks GF to start playing like he's town TWL upset that didn't get mafia flip, D2 asks if corny nk clears lenlo, comments that he doesn't think mafia killed corny looking for seer rather because they were never going to get lynched and cory was doing his collecting townie thing, answers sooh's question about the lower 4 of cory's list and who could be mafia, arguing with darthe, explains his reasonings for his questions, headdesk, thinks hallia town and possibly crusher too, asks darthe how often he calls darthe names in either alignment, doesn't think he does, darthe was frustrating him, asks darthe to explain a statement, present aorn. I think dice is slightly townie because he has been conversing ITT and arguing with darthe who I have as scummy aorn .

 

 

DISCLAIMER:  these are my SECOND (cont'd) reads and they WILL CHANGE heck they may have already changed cause its taken me a while to do them.  

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

1. Darthe -- null - slightly scummy - D1 starts by saying he town read lenlo, joke posts, then goes to say crush is town pick of the day, back and forth with cory, makes a very "in your face" imo post to cory, tells hallia he has a mostly positive vibe from her, him and cory go at it again, responds to pralaya about one of sooh's posts, wants to talk to hallia about pralaya, makes comment about trolling alanna and asks tiink about sooh/pral situation, says he caught up and votes dice and talks about suss len, gives a read list, then he describes pral's wolf/town games and says how town pral is, talks about tiink and len trains and possibility of a dice one, talks about notbob posts as drivel and that tiink is town, votes len, doesn't know what he'll do if lenlo flips town, another back and forth with cory, talks about 1 of kat's posts as being apologetic, doesn't want to cfd her, another convo with cory, GGWP (whatever that means) D2 wants to lynch me, asks if dice is on, says not to give me any special treatment, asks about dice and lenlo reads, asks notbob if he thinks hallia is a wolf this game, agrees with hallia's reads, questions my read on him, talks about dice stirring up the pot again, votes dice, says town:dice never name calls, asks len where are the wolves, present aorn. The reason why I think he is slightly scummy is because he flip/flopped his town reads early on, kept on digging at cory, and how he made fun of people.

 

I dont even know where to begin.1 This assumes im a wolf to begin with,2 shows that youve no concept of peeking, 3is a summary instead of an analysis and4 then takes a step back from calling me wolfy to calling me slightly wolfy after you spent all your time to make it.

 

I dont want to sound like im above it but come on!

 

 

1 I copied and pasted my original list which had the null - slightly scummy on there. That's how I usually do my reads.  You've been in enough games with me to know that. //

2 You are totally right.  I have absolutely no idea...well almost no idea.  I read the thingee that cory posted but still don't get it   

3 Yes, its a summary because I want to put out there what I thought was important and so I can go back to it and reference it if there are any questions.  My analysis comes at the end.  I am still not good at it.  I can't come up with fancy paragraphs that say well he said this so I think this and such and such.  My mind doesn't compute in that fashion.

4 It may be D2 for you but its D1 for me.  I am not going to put a solid read on anyone atp in the game...PAFO

[Katiora]

I'm here I'm just trying to ISO and work at the same time and it's monday which means it's not a good combination. Unfortunately I can't get ISO to work on my phone so i can't on the weekends and I really needed to. 

 

 

I honestly don't think I'll vote Len today. Last post seemed like town len to me. *shrugs* I think that his lack of being here has made him an easy target and that's a role that I understand all too easily myself. 

 

I haven't liked Pral's posts. But honestly I don't remember a game where I didn't think he was scummy. I think that might just be the way he plays. I can't get a good read on him though. 

 

Alanna I feel pretty good as town. 

 

Darthe is a mystery. He's always a bit abrasive which I want to read a scum but it's just him. I need more time. 

 

Hallia seems townish but she's one that I always want to be town when I don't have anyone else to fall on. I mean the last game she scummed me I wanted her to be town soooo bad and it was obvious at the end she wasn't and I still didn't lynch her lol 

 

Wifi - at this point i'm not sure. Her reads list looks a bit off from other games. She doesn't seem to be making her reads as quickly and still has a lot of nulls which is unlike the Wifi i remember. Usually she takes some stand on someone even if she changes it a few posts later. I'm not sure if it's her developing as a player or if she is afraid to town read people because she's scum and knows who all the town is. I think the later is a very good possibility

 

NotBob and Crusher I don't feel like I have enough to go on and I have played very little with both so I'm not sure. 

 

Sooh - seems very town to me. She would probably be at the top of my town list if I had one at the present. 

 

 

Dice has said some things that really make me think he's town. That's about as far as I'll go into that. 

 

And that's about all that stands out to me.. I feel like I"m forgetting stuff though.. I still need to go back and finish ISO'ing a few people. I feel like I'm missing something that I had thought of over the weekend but I couldn't go back and look and now I don't remember what it was. 

[Hallia]

So we are in best agreement barring Alanna and Pral

[Lenlo]

Then you clearly dont know wolf Len Darthe.

 

Pral worries me some and with Alanna im kinda concerned with how easy people are following this. I expected alot more resistance today and that bugs me.

[Lenlo]

[unvote][v]Pral[/v]

 

I expected way more resistance in regards to Alanna and getting her lynched, that it bugs me. Makes me feel like some of those hopping on out of nowhere are wolfy. Like, Hallia, werent you saying at EoD yesterday you should have just voted me instead of unvoting Tiink? So why today are you voting Alanna instead of me?

[Darthe]

Kats post was super weak, especially irt len, myself, and hally. How do you not have a better reason for your opinions than "lens last post looks good, idk darthe lol and hally???"? That reeks of the same thing wild reeks of, which is noncommital posturing.

 

 

Len ive yet to be given an eben halfway decent reason to not vote you. If you cant tell me why, why should I stop?