[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Zander?]

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

 

How do these correlate iyo?

[Hallia]

Where is Tiink btw? He's been very scarce.

[Nynaeve]

Where is Tiink btw? He's been very scarce.

 

That's a very good question.

[Zander?]

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

 

Forgot to ask Bel...what if Sili flips Scum?

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

Alright then.

 

Actually not alright then.

 

Why would you be town reading me? The way I've acted/posted so far has been nothing like what you've seen me before. It's not even like my private personality, which you should know.

 

Why is it not wierd that I'm being so over the top here?

I don't even think you've mentioned it so far.

 

Having a hard time responding to this question currently.

 

Alright, I'll try. I don't necessarily think your reads have been the best this game. I think you've prematurely called both Celeste and Dice scum, BUT I can see WHY you made those conclusions sorta, and it's not uncommon for either of them to be scum read for the current behavior they have shown this game. 

 

I know their meta, and while I'm on the fence on both and haven't mentioned them much (kinda want my other head's input) I don't think either of them are outside their regular town meta. I'll get back to you on them. 

 

So, that's why I'm currently town reading you.

 

 

 

 

What current behavior of Dice is indicative of his Scum game?

 

Read again. I'm not saying that current game state is indicative of Dice's scum game. I'm actually not saying anything about my feelings about Dice currently, because he just hasn't been very memorable this game to me. 

 

As a first time reader of Dice, I can see why he would think Dice would be scum. 

 

Personally I don't have a conclusion wrt Dice.He could be either atm to me. 

[Zander?]

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

 

Why CANT they be w/w iyo?

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

There could be a tea pot orbiting Mars.

 

Yes it's possible, but I don't think it's likely at all.

 

 

Youre starting to remind me of Derf....

 

sadface,gif

 

lolololololol

[Hallia]

Whoa, no, he's very nice.

[Sili Quirrels]

scum reads fwiw are something like tinker, sooh/darthe, believer. tinker's there partially because peer pressure however. that might be temporary. and sooh had a genuine enough post when she was talking about my association with believer.

 

i imagine there's only one wolf in the above, or two max, and i bet the remaining wolves can be found in celeste, kat, lenlo, maybe dice. those four i don't have strong reads about, but it's just poe.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

Could you be right about none of us?

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

 

Im kinda in the same spot.

 

I think theres likely at least a wolf in Sili/Darooh.

 

Not sure who I feel worse about tbqh atp.

 

The likelihood of w/w is likely slim but Im not ruling it out yet.

[Nynaeve]

*snerk*

[Sili Quirrels]

ebwop: 'association with tinker' - obviously.

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

 

1. Shander the DragonHawk (Shad_/Zander) - slight town - Has been investigating the "conversations" that have been happening ITT and Making comments on said investigations

2. Nynlia (Hallia/Nynaeve) - null - slight town - most posts are joke posts but there are some tangible posts in there along with a good reads list from hallia, though I still don't get why no one gets me, I'm town ofc. 

3. Sili Quirrels - null - slight town - good dissemination of dice/believers conversation and interaction with cass.

4. Katiora  - null - not enough to go on, imo.

5. Cass - null - slight town - interaction with Sili and questioning of other players.

6. Andrej - null - very slightly town - He's being very logical which could make him town or scum.  I am going to give him the botd, for now.

7. Believer - null - slightly scummy - I know it might seem hypocritical cause I was pushing for Andrej's lynch but I had what I thought was absolute reasons for it imo, anyway He calls like 3 people scum, 2 without reasons and the 3rd with sketchy reasons

8. Darooh (Darthe/Sooh) - null - not enough info

9. Tiinker - null to slightly town - seriously questions cass and believer on their reasons for their cases against people.

10. Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

11. Lenlo - null - not enough info

12. Celeste - null - very slightly town - puts out there that she is a jokester (my word) in the joke phase of d1 and to not take it too seriously. I still don't know where to put her yet but leaning to very slightly town.

13. dicetosser1 -  null - slightly town - questions believers case on celeste and helping people out ITT

 

DISCLAIMER: this reads list WILL CHANGE...heck it might have already changed idk It took me so long to do it.  anyway just giving you fair warning.

 

Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin'

 

Lily?

 

This is literally how WIFI has always made her reads.

 

Yeah, I have always been TOWN QUEENIE.  except for my first game because I was totally new and Darthes game cause we were all scum/sk/mason/jester. the rest I have been TOWNIE including this one.

[Shad_]

Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin'

So did Wifi.

[Sili Quirrels]

i'd rather [unvote]

 

because i might end up voting someone else anyway.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

1. Shander the DragonHawk (Shad_/Zander) - slight town - Has been investigating the "conversations" that have been happening ITT and Making comments on said investigations

2. Nynlia (Hallia/Nynaeve) - null - slight town - most posts are joke posts but there are some tangible posts in there along with a good reads list from hallia, though I still don't get why no one gets me, I'm town ofc. 

3. Sili Quirrels - null - slight town - good dissemination of dice/believers conversation and interaction with cass.

4. Katiora  - null - not enough to go on, imo.

5. Cass - null - slight town - interaction with Sili and questioning of other players.

6. Andrej - null - very slightly town - He's being very logical which could make him town or scum.  I am going to give him the botd, for now.

7. Believer - null - slightly scummy - I know it might seem hypocritical cause I was pushing for Andrej's lynch but I had what I thought was absolute reasons for it imo, anyway He calls like 3 people scum, 2 without reasons and the 3rd with sketchy reasons

8. Darooh (Darthe/Sooh) - null - not enough info

9. Tiinker - null to slightly town - seriously questions cass and believer on their reasons for their cases against people.

10. Wildfire Sedai - TOWN QUEENIE

11. Lenlo - null - not enough info

12. Celeste - null - very slightly town - puts out there that she is a jokester (my word) in the joke phase of d1 and to not take it too seriously. I still don't know where to put her yet but leaning to very slightly town.

13. dicetosser1 -  null - slightly town - questions believers case on celeste and helping people out ITT

 

DISCLAIMER: this reads list WILL CHANGE...heck it might have already changed idk It took me so long to do it.  anyway just giving you fair warning.

 

Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin'

 

Lily?

 

This is literally how WIFI has always made her reads.

 

Yeah, I have always been TOWN QUEENIE.  except for my first game because I was totally new and Darthes game cause we were all scum/sk/mason/jester. the rest I have been TOWNIE including this one.

 

I just want this on record. I love playing mafia with Wifi. She's the most entertaining player I think I've ever met.

[Believer]

Zander, read the thread to the end and bookmark the things you want to respond to. If you can't find an answer then you ask it.

 

I've answered this question before you asked it two times.

[Sili Quirrels]

gut says you shouldn't ever ever lynch wifi. but maybe i'm saying that because if she's town she might need cred from confirmed villagers.

[Sooh]

Zander, read the thread to the end and bookmark the things you want to respond to. If you can't find an answer then you ask it.

 

I've answered this question before you asked it two times.

It's not how he does things. Trust me. It's the only response you'll ever get, and NOTHING is EVER going to change. 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

did you seriously just vote me for something i do every game?

 

when me changing my mind about cass isn't even especially convenient from a wolf's pov?

 

Yup. That ONE thing is exactly why I voted you.

 

No, I voted you because of your feelings about Cass' post, your subsequent failing to form any kind of convincing argument as to why your feelings were valid and your weird coupling with Tiink. I was going to vote you long before your hard unvote.

 

 

uhuh.

 

i don't buy it.

 

you're probably a wolf.

 

[v]doorah[/v]

 

You don't "buy" what?

 

your read of me.

 

you don't get my interpretation of cass' posts, but i clearly tried to illustrate how i came to my conclusion so you can't fault me for lack of effort. and this all started for me when you call my changing my mind sketch, which it really isn't, so you changed why you were voting me.

 

really none of the reasons you present mean i'm a wolf to a rational observer. i voted cass at the start of the game (which was page 20, but it was my first read), and it wasn't a very developed case which i admitted like several times during my discussion with zander, so the fact i couldn't communicate why effectively (for you) probably only means that it was a weak read. And you have people like aj saying the whole thing was pretty typical silli so it's difficult to see you voting me without some measure of doubt.

 

actually considering you know me, it's difficult to see you as town ever voting me for having a weak early game read and going on about it for a while, even if i wasn't actually going on about it but rather explaining the read most of the time.

 

 

You can be faulted for how you came to your conclusion.

 

Ive been calling you out about it.

 

Now the complete flip.

 

Its weird to say the least.

 

Im not even saying this is not in the Town!SIli spectrum. 

 

But added with other things and its leaving me with some uneasy feelings.

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Celeste (1): Lenlo

Believer (2): Andrej, Dice

Cass (1): Tiink

Darooh (3): Wildfire, Celeste, Shander

Sili (4): Cass, Believer, Darooh, Nynlia

 

Not Voting (2): Katiora, Sili

 

Sili is at L-3

 

It takes 7 to lynch.Deadline for Day 1 is 8:00 AM PDT/11:00 AM EDT on Friday, 8/19/16.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

 

why would he deserve it?

 

it hes town man hes at least working it and if hes scum its pretty ballsy. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

did you seriously just vote me for something i do every game?

 

when me changing my mind about cass isn't even especially convenient from a wolf's pov?

 

Yup. That ONE thing is exactly why I voted you.

 

No, I voted you because of your feelings about Cass' post, your subsequent failing to form any kind of convincing argument as to why your feelings were valid and your weird coupling with Tiink. I was going to vote you long before your hard unvote.

 

 

uhuh.

 

i don't buy it.

 

you're probably a wolf.

 

[v]doorah[/v]

 

You don't "buy" what?

 

your read of me.

 

you don't get my interpretation of cass' posts, but i clearly tried to illustrate how i came to my conclusion so you can't fault me for lack of effort. and this all started for me when you call my changing my mind sketch, which it really isn't, so you changed why you were voting me.

 

really none of the reasons you present mean i'm a wolf to a rational observer. i voted cass at the start of the game (which was page 20, but it was my first read), and it wasn't a very developed case which i admitted like several times during my discussion with zander, so the fact i couldn't communicate why effectively (for you) probably only means that it was a weak read. And you have people like aj saying the whole thing was pretty typical silli so it's difficult to see you voting me without some measure of doubt.

 

actually considering you know me, it's difficult to see you as town ever voting me for having a weak early game read and going on about it for a while, even if i wasn't actually going on about it but rather explaining the read most of the time.

 

 

You can be faulted for how you came to your conclusion.

 

Ive been calling you out about it.

 

Now the complete flip.

 

Its weird to say the least.

 

Im not even saying this is not in the Town!SIli spectrum. 

 

But added with other things and its leaving me with some uneasy feelings.

 

 

it's hard to know what part of the cass read you mean still.

 

was it my interpetation of cass' post? were the reads phrased less strongly than i thought?

 

was it my meta of cass that was incorrect?

 

or was the argument she was reaching for reads weak?

 

the first and third i might go for, but my interpretation and my reads are basically mine and i allow myself to make mistakes.

 

as to flipping, come on, i do it every game.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

 

why would he deserve it?

 

it hes town man hes at least working it and if hes scum its pretty ballsy. 

 

because his reads are absurd if you look at why he's making them. and he doesn't back down. it's incredibly obnoxious and destructive if he's wrong, which he definitely is about me.

 

and no, it's not ballsy if he's a wolf. it's cowardly. he's not competent enough to play like a villager so he goes for twtbaw.

[Zander?]

you guys are confusing me. half of you i don't know what your problems are. i'd bet sooh is a wolf. and darthe is in his wolf range anyway.

 

but that said, i don't like it that so many people seem very opportunistic to me. cass is the only one i really buy having a wolf read of me.

 

i probably need to chill lol. i'll abscond.

 

 

you guys have my reads, best as i can make them. and you're not about to say anything i can respond to anyway.

 

This defeatist attitude is not Town!Sili like imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

 

Did that ping anyone else?

[Believer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

 

why would he deserve it?

 

it hes town man hes at least working it and if hes scum its pretty ballsy.

 

 

because his reads are absurd if you look at why he's making them. and he doesn't back down. it's incredibly obnoxious and destructive if he's wrong, which he definitely is about me.

 

and no, it's not ballsy if he's a wolf. it's cowardly. he's not competent enough to play like a villager so he goes for twtbaw.

 

Let's take a step back from the insults now, it's enough.