[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[seph]

@besie, I was wondering because your reads seem to reflect the thread at the time. there wasn't anything like oooh thats a good 1.

also explain what you don't like about me claiming vt when you have no idea how it happened.
If I was a wolf I would be living through this lynch I promise you that, or getting someone else lynched by claiming something

[wish-tree]

meta I guess clouds my read but I try to use it if people can't understand me w/out it 

 

remember trying to completely ignore meta to devastating effects in my first two games here, it worked out not so well

 

so I'm trying to use meta especially to start off my read of people, when they continue on and continue to be wolfy, then well, I've gotem

 

another thing is that META IS NOT TELL ALL which is pretty gross that I have to even tell you guys this

 

as a detached observer being so wrapped up in what you know of one another is pretty bad - I'm able to deceive those I know much better than those I don't know, same might go for both of you. I only say the reverse when I'm scum trying to pocket my friends. <3

[Zander?]

 

[unvote]

 

[v]wish[/v]

lol

 

should I start softing now

 

 

hmmmmm both my Scum reads softing......

[seph]

lol dice your vote on me was so freaking horrific. not the vote itself but the fabricated reasons

[BFG]

Wish

 

Poked Zander a lot, wanted to see a tunnel so she could decide if he was town or not despite never seeing him town, apparently doesn't consider the lack of tunnel may mean town

 

QandA analysis - likes the fact that I didn't answer a couple of questions, disliked the fact that a couple of other people (Thane/Niniel) didn't answer some questions

 

I'm finding it hard to track her read on me - scummy for 'linking' Laine/Seph, townie for opening/QandA, then looking into possible pairings between me/Sili/Zander..? Not sure how much of this is a playstyle difference

 

Initially joins the group of people saying they didn't like my Seph/Laine post then likes it later

 

Oh god that Zander argument

 

Pausing while I try and review Lenlo quickly

[Sili Quirrels]

Prolly gonna go back to Nin

if no one goes with that's basically like voting seph rn. just so you know, that's how i would see it.

[Darthe]

Darthe, I'm townreading you atm. What are the cases against the two vote leaders?

Im not quite sure for len or wish. She did a couple of lolz things that were just bad play and is getting crilucified, seems like he is being held to an emotional double standard. Tina has had a really weak game eith some wolfy parts and seph had a few slips plus a bad response to pressure.

 

Tough to weigh the merit of these things.

[Darthe]

Wait wait why is wish being lynched ???

Lol right?

[Zander?]

Looking at Niniel

 

The positives I have are minor, but stick with me

 

I think as mafia she's more careful than to say stuff like 'sheeping me', I think she's less likely to make the mistake with Kat

 

Against that, her reads are pretty static. Her argument on Zander has been that his questions have been 'pointless' from the start, but she never seems to consider the posts that are less pointless

 

Her argument on Lenlo is to do with his early game catch-up and she agreed with Chris about Lenlo's reaction to Sili.

 

Her read on Kat is weird, didn't like her because of false meta, then didn't like her because of fluffiness, but again no attempt to analyse the posts that weren't fluff.

 

So am I to assume you have her Null or Town then?

[LilyElizabeth]

Wish

 

Poked Zander a lot, wanted to see a tunnel so she could decide if he was town or not despite never seeing him town, apparently doesn't consider the lack of tunnel may mean town

 

QandA analysis - likes the fact that I didn't answer a couple of questions, disliked the fact that a couple of other people (Thane/Niniel) didn't answer some questions

 

I'm finding it hard to track her read on me - scummy for 'linking' Laine/Seph, townie for opening/QandA, then looking into possible pairings between me/Sili/Zander..? Not sure how much of this is a playstyle difference

 

Initially joins the group of people saying they didn't like my Seph/Laine post then likes it later

 

Oh god that Zander argument

 

Pausing while I try and review Lenlo quickly

Thank you for this. 

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

also if your a vig, shoot darthe tonight. He is probably town, but it is a protown shot

What. I dont even. Like im all for shooting Darthe, it was amusing 4 years ago and its amusing now, but cmon.

the post was obviously supposed to be amusing. I get tired of people following darthe on me for slim reasons, if you can even call them that lol. I just see him mislynching townies often these days

You guys, I'm right. This right here tells you all you need, look at the logic and motivation. Its opportunism used as a defense.

I try to find nice ways to respond, but your arguments are dumb

Do you mean that youve no response to them or that you dont understand what they are? Reading comprehensions a barrier to entry, I know, but sound it out.

Darthe, is, bad

I think I got it right. the hally thing, was never a thing. I wasn't asked why she wasn't there, I added her shortly after because I forgot her. I called her my town buddy, because that is what I called her earlier. so yea you are twisting things to fit them how you want. plain and simple

I don't rememer anything else you said, but I doubt any of it holds weight

All the commas

[Guest]

I'm about an hour behind in catchup.

 

 

 

 

So I went ahead and iso'd Niniel.

 

 

Her post #428 she admits to wanting to sheep which feels like she not wanting to make her own reads. She further agrees with the opinions of others without making her own as yet. I know she's responded to people questioning this (#434 - response to BFG), but it doesn't change the original feel.

 

She confuses someone somewhere. I've read this but I didn't follow at all. It's odd. She wasn't very active so she could have lost track of her thoughts. She could also have lost track of her thoughts. The former as town. The latter as scum. Not alignment indicative to me.

 

She further replied to the first mentioned post in #631... and then starts sounding repetitive in #655 about BFG. She sounds like she's accusing - which I don't like 'cause there's so little posts before that where she's actually posting her own opinion and her own thoughts.

 

I like her post #1048. She starts saying what she thinks. She later shares her thoughts on everyone - but was it before or after people started voting her?

 

 

 

Not much to iso. And I'm actually still uncertain about her. If I have to place her on a spectrum she'd be more red than green - only because I think she only started being active or actively sharing her thoughts after people starting saying she was scummy. Am I wrong?

IN the post you like where she starts giving some thoughts, theyre mostly vague thoughts or stuff people have already mentioned.

 

Does this color your view of her any differently?

What do you want me to comment on: Do you mean that her posts are vague, or that she started giving thoughts in total?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

if your question is why not nin or seph...

 

cause they seem honest about their reads. and nin seems like one of those players who exists in a bubble and is easy to lynch because they don't interact in the same way.and seph was his usual town self just a couple pages ago, grieving then going into catch a wolf mode. quintessential seph.

Agreed on tina, disagree heavily on seph. What townie ever responds the way he did to my point about hally? The dude refuted nothing, he did absolutely nothing to attempt to improve his position except shrug and shut up

But this exactly what Nina is doing as well.

 

WHy ok for one and not the other?

Darthe you answer this?

Its not, she is the second best lynch today. I just feel much more confident about him than her given the way the game has played out so far

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

 

Not Voting (2) - BFG, Lizabeth, 

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. 

 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST
 

[Zander?]

From what I've read, of the leading trains I'm more interested in seeing Nini hang than any of the others. Can anyone fill me in on the cases on the other leaders? I just don't have time to find out for myself right now. 

 

Youre basing your train analysis while being 60 ish pages behind?

[Darthe]

Well it's settled, I'm never voting Seph

What, why?

[BFG]

 

Looking at Niniel

 

The positives I have are minor, but stick with me

 

I think as mafia she's more careful than to say stuff like 'sheeping me', I think she's less likely to make the mistake with Kat

 

Against that, her reads are pretty static. Her argument on Zander has been that his questions have been 'pointless' from the start, but she never seems to consider the posts that are less pointless

 

Her argument on Lenlo is to do with his early game catch-up and she agreed with Chris about Lenlo's reaction to Sili.

 

Her read on Kat is weird, didn't like her because of false meta, then didn't like her because of fluffiness, but again no attempt to analyse the posts that weren't fluff.

 

So am I to assume you have her Null or Town then?

 

I genuinely don't know. She was a low poster and was mislynched in PF. Key difference is that she was more relaxed/fluffier? But that game was 9 months ago, not sure of the relevance. Also re-evaluate reads more.

 

Was more serious in Ragnarok/GB and evaluated reads less, also more careful.

 

I don't know which is more telling. Although probably overall gameplay, so probably more scummy than town at this point

[seph]

I think i would look more closely at who is blindly following the derf machine than anything

[wish-tree]

Hi Bessie, don't think I've gotten a chance to read you yet aorn

 

What's your read of Zander and seph? Niniel?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town

What is your read on Nina based on ONLY her game?

Whats your read on hally disregarding her game and onoy accounting for meta game factors such as poe and environment?

 

See how crazy that is to ask?

NOPE

 

Shes the one linking people together. So I think its a pretty standard and valid question.

 

Its not. I cant imagine making that sort of seperation

[Zander?]

 

 

Town thinks the lead wagon since irl d1 of the game is a wolf.

 

Lolme

 

Wasnt that seph, your top Scum read???

 

oh yea, I am still interested on hearing how wish though the wagonomics apllied to me and how

 

 

ive been looking for this too.

[Katiora]

 

Well it's settled, I'm never voting Seph

What, why?

 

because he basically said he was spice girls... i think she was joking lol 

[Guest]

 

That dice post is very bad.

Its not good,

 

But its not TOTALLY unlike Dice tho.

 

Can those who are Town reading Dice tell me why?

I was feeling that he might be town. I dunno... he just responds like he does when he's town. I've not seen anything odd or different. Yet.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

Town thinks the lead wagon since irl d1 of the game is a wolf.

 

Lolme

 

Wasnt that seph, your top Scum read???

 

oh yea, I am still interested on hearing how wish though the wagonomics apllied to me and how

 

 

ive been looking for this too.

 

I thought I explained this already? wat

[LilyElizabeth]

 

From what I've read, of the leading trains I'm more interested in seeing Nini hang than any of the others. Can anyone fill me in on the cases on the other leaders? I just don't have time to find out for myself right now. 

 

Youre basing your train analysis while being 60 ish pages behind?

 

Zander, I'm trying to do the best I can. What would you do in my place? I had two doctor's appointments and a night's sleep interfere with my ability to read the game nonstop.