[Basic] Supernatural Mafia ~ Game Over ~ Town Wins!!!

[Turin Turambar]

Turin how much time do you have tonight?

I'm about but only paying half attention. Having evening time.

 

Bedtime in about 2 hours.

What you wanna discuss?

[Nynaeve]

O_o

[Nynaeve]

Turin, do you have me on ignore?

[BFG]

Sooh part 1 of ?

 

I'm grouping quotes by topic rather than strict chronological order

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Eldrick

 

 

 

Cuz I said I would. Family love and all that.

 

Vote Eldrick

 

 

 

Cuz I said I would. Family love and all that.

Nice of you to stick to your guns from signup.

 

 

After very careful thought and deliberation, I don't know if I'm buying this whole Mother/Son shtick. It feel feels like its forced and somewhat contrived. I think this kind of gambit is much likely to come from a Scum!Lilly and Scum!Eldrick POV..

 

It feels like they have an agenda and are already setting the stage for some sort of claim later in the game.

 

I mean I feel like they're really trying hard to sell us this connection or relationship but with this type of obvious gambit no one is buying into this in my opinion.

 

That's an interesting point of view. Shame there's nothing to it. She did what she said she was going to do in signup, and I appreciate her doing so. I feel signup is part of the game.

 

What's done here because of there can't be alignment indicative, but appreciated nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

Whats interesting about a joke where I implied that I said I wasnt buying you both being mother and son and also where did I mention anything about the signup part?  Also just about anything CAN be alignment indicative.

 

This response feels ACTUALLY does feel forced coming from Eldrick. and why FEEL the need to state anything here at all.

 

I dont like this response.

 

Eldrick.... Zander promised to keep it down.... i expect you to do the same *glare*

 

also: HI frands!!

 

Maybe its just me but is Thane not offering people a drink but growling them seem off to anyone else?

 

Lol Zan. You don't buy them being mother and son? Did I read that right? They are mother and son.

 

This was the first post that pinged. Zander clearly states it's a joke yet Sooh is still taking it seriously? It feels off, did she just miss it?

 

 

Thing is, Zander. It didn't read like a joke. It was too elaborately reasoned for being a joke vote.

 

I agree completely with this, tonewise nothing Sander said early sounded like a joke. I don't think that's necessarily indicative of anything but it's a valid observation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind of a weird switch by Lily IMHO, willing to pursue.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Lily[/v]

 

I'm giving Zander the benefit of the doubt, since he said it was a joke, but not ruling him as scum out yet. What's weird about that?

 

What's weird is that Laine was pushing Zander who you're not ruling out as a suspect, and then you turn around and vote her.

 

 

Okay. I see your point. Haven't you heard of distancing before?

 

Of course. It's just very early and calling attention to both Laine herself and her teammate if that's what she was doing. I don't see that as smart scum play especially this early on in the game. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aaaaand that's what I get for posting as I read along. Zander's claiming it was a joke. Didn't read like a joke to me. But what's even crazier to me is Alanna and Sooh's responses. My first thought was that Alanna was pushing her scummate's case. Zander, you're not off the hook yet, but...

 

 

Unvote

Vote Alannalynn

 

This quick shift is hella strange.  Im not familiar with Lilly but this is a whole pile of wth.

 

 

Thing is, Zander. It didn't read like a joke. It was too elaborately reasoned for being a joke vote.

 

 

 

 

Would you have felt differently if I had added lolololololol to it?

 

What was "elaborate" about it....that you thought I actually thought them "claiming" to be mother and son was a gambit??

 

Like this is just an awful conclusion to come to imo.

 

I feel like Zander as a joke would have said that "Mother and Son, huh? Well that's an awful gambit!", but instead you went on to explain why it would be a gambit and how it was bad, and it just didn't read like a Zanderjoke should. You know how scum sometimes feel the need to overly justify their votes? It felt a bit more like it could be in that general direction.

 

 

 

 

Did I vote?  In that general direction... Please re read this and the posts you made concerning me and see if you can find why I find this answer of yours to be quite ironic.

 

Not in the mood. My stuffed nose/heavy head/raspy throat makes mafia playing meh.

 

I'll let you know when I find villagerZander though.

 

This is quoted just cos it annoys me and I'm not sure either of you elaborate come back to it

 

Zander, I think Sooh wasn't saying you voted, but that your 'joke' sounded overexplained the same way that mafia can overexplain votes.

 

I can also understand this reaction from Sooh very easily given RL :/

 

Zander is the 'amusement' caused by Sooh's attempt to explain her opinion on your 'joke' post?

 

 

 

 

Nothing spectacular, one very minor ping that probably means little

[Zander?]

Not a problem for me.

 

 

 

Not for me :)

 

 

Thank you ladies

 

@BFG, Not gonna lie. I didn't like the extended meta discussion earlier either. I had to force myself take a step back from it and just let it go.

 

@Zan, no offense taken. I'm an unknown quantity to you so it makes sense.

 

BG you mind the post count thing?  Also who is currently in your WTL list, i know theres still the night to get through but just wondering what youre thinking and why if you dont mind.

[BFG]

 

Turin how much time do you have tonight?

I'm about but only paying half attention. Having evening time.

 

Bedtime in about 2 hours.

What you wanna discuss?

 

Lol everything.

 

Can you summarise your thoughts on Zander ad Laine? Can you also look at Sooh?

 

I'm massively behind so probably won't be able to talk it through the way I wanted :/

[BFG]

Turin, do you have me on ignore?

Dangerous move if true

[Nynaeve]

Seems pretty obvious that he does.

[Nynaeve]

I don't find it dangerous so much as mindnumbingly stupid 

[Turin Turambar]

Turin, do you have me on ignore?

What are you on about? Am I missing a question?

[BFG]

Zander, if this is Cory's influence that makes you like this it's really messing with my ability to read you.

I liked this at the time and still do (will probably revisit when I get to Sooh vs Zander)

[Zander?]

 

Turin how much time do you have tonight?

I'm about but only paying half attention. Having evening time.

 

Bedtime in about 2 hours.

What you wanna discuss?

 

 

 

Still waiting on an answer to the quote question.

[Nynaeve]

w/e. I don't even care anymore. This cranky pants is out for tonight. later guys

[Turin Turambar]

BFG, I won't be able to look at Sooh until after day starts providing I'm alive.

 

I'll try to get my thoughts out on Z and Alanna before I go to sleep.

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

Turin how much time do you have tonight?

I'm about but only paying half attention. Having evening time.

 

Bedtime in about 2 hours.

What you wanna discuss?

 

Still waiting on an answer to the quote question.

can I get a quote of it?

[Zander?]

 

Zander, if this is Cory's influence that makes you like this it's really messing with my ability to read you.

I liked this at the time and still do (will probably revisit when I get to Sooh vs Zander)

 

 

To be honest Cory has been busy, he's only really looking at reads with me and only instructions was to watch my post count and try to explain things better/more clearly and lunch the wolves.

 

I dont know if that helps much but make of it what you will.  I made a consciousness decision pre game as everyone knows to change my style.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Turin how much time do you have tonight?

I'm about but only paying half attention. Having evening time.

 

Bedtime in about 2 hours.

What you wanna discuss?

 

Still waiting on an answer to the quote question.

can I get a quote of it?

 

 

 

You asked for someone to provide a quote about the Nolder poss being Goon Sooh poss GF.  It was me who made the post originally.

[bgrishinko]

High post counts never bothered me at all.

[LilyElizabeth]

Cop: Lily

vig: Z

lynch: Alanna

Doc: BFG

 

Go!

 

Explain to me what good a list like this does. You both listed me as cop. If I am the cop, and I'm not saying one way or the other, isn't that a little dangerous?

[bgrishinko]

I interpreted this list as Cop, you should view Lily. Vig, you should kill Z. Etc. etc.

[BFG]

Sooh part 2 of ?

 

 

reaction test

 

 

 

Slightly weirded out that BG has called out literally every post containing his name EXCEPT my joke vote on him.

 

 

Well, you did say you had played here before, and my vote on you was my welcome and hello. 

 

Calling you out on it was however a reaction test.

 

 

 

Well, you did say you had played here before, and my vote on you was my welcome and hello. 

 

Calling you out on it was however a reaction test.

 

*itching to say "fair enough"....*

Well said. Seems legit for now.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you did say you had played here before, and my vote on you was my welcome and hello. 

 

Calling you out on it was however a reaction test.

What did you get from it?

 

That your new avi is going to drive me insane!

 

No, seriously. I don't know yet. I think the fact that he dropped the issue is a good thing. Initial reaction I was a bit meh to, but latest post is better purely based on the fact that he isn't pursuing a tunnel on me based on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you did say you had played here before, and my vote on you was my welcome and hello. 

 

Calling you out on it was however a reaction test.

What did you get from it?

 

That your new avi is going to drive me insane!

 

No, seriously. I don't know yet. I think the fact that he dropped the issue is a good thing. Initial reaction I was a bit meh to, but latest post is better purely based on the fact that he isn't pursuing a tunnel on me based on it.

 

Before his latest post what made you think he was going to tunnel?

 

It's not an exact science, but the whole, when I pointed a finger at him he just turned around and went "Oh yeah, but you pointing a finger at me or even talking to me in the first place, now THAT's scummy!" (parphrased into basically how I read it) It could have easily turned into a tunnel, at least from my POV. Then again, I don't know BG and don't know how he reacts, but imagine if it was Zander ( ).

 

Anyway, please read my posts today with the consideration that I'm sick as a dog and my husband is the sweetest on earth for making dinner for me, again.

 

 

 

Day 1 is a whole 'nother ball game when you don't know people's meta. It's kind of refreshing actually. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happened the past two pages? Temporary insanity? Reads like it, sheesh.

??? With regards to what?

 

 

This is a question that needs answering. Also high five on the avatar. 

 

I like Sooh's approach here. She doesn't know anything about me or my meta. So she pokes at me to learn more. Day 1 is all about the subtle pokes and seeing how people react. Underreactions and over reactions are the only meat we really have to go on. 

 

@Turin - I noticed the same soft claim thing but was kind of sitting on it to see if Zander was going to bring it up again or make a big deal out of it again. It always is fishy to me when people bring up claims so early either way, but not knowing meta wasn't sure what to make of it.

 

I think I'm willing to [v]Zander [/v] for now for this reason. Good as any at this point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

this conversation feels very familiar

 

I'm not sure I completely buy Sooh's earlier response either

Buy which response?

 

Oh, and before I forget. Zander, you're not at all Zander this game. You seem hostile, defensive, FOSing everyone (at least until recalibrating with Cory), and I don't see at all the townie Zander that I've come to expect. This has nothing to do with volume. It has to do with tone. You're using vocabulary that seems un-Zander and that is why I'll

 

[unvote]

[v]Zander[/v]

 

Regarding the BG tunnel

 

I dunno, I need to muse a bit

 

I may have explained it in a bad way. Like, I was thinking that IF BG is that type of scum when he is scum he might latch on to that and just never let it go, no matter what I said or did to explain myself. It's possible that tunnel is the wrong word, but sustained suspicion maybe?

 

 

 

My response to # 331 which seemed to break my post when I quoted it:

 

I "dragged Laine in" by pointing out what I thought was an inconsistency in Lily's play. I found it weird how she would go from voting Zander to voting somebody who was pushing Zander. I actually find that that might suggest that Laine isn't partnered with any of the two, rather than dragging her into something. It was Lily's actions I was talking about, in regards to Laine. 

 

Lmk if I need to explain this further.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, uh? Reaction testing on someone you have never played with?

That's a bit [v]Sooh[/v] level play.

There's such a thing as generic reactions, which is what I was looking for. If you couldn't test for reactions on players you haven't played with before, what do you then do to gauge them?

 

Tell me then, what reaction from BG would have made you suspect he was scum? Or what reaction would have made you sure he was town.

 

Generic reactions doesn't make any sense.

 

 

As for reactions. I have later explained what I found after the test. Sometimes, when you do make a test like that, you don't know what you're looking for until you see it. I can't possibly know how anyone will react to pressure, but I can judge based on their reactions what I think their likely motivation is. 

 

So, no, I can't give you a list of do's and don't's with regards to reaction tests. All I can say is how I interpret their choice of actions after the fact.

 

 

 

This still bugs me from both of them and I cannot explain why.

 

BG you said you liked Sooh's test, what did you think of her interpretation of your actions?

 

Sooh, I know you've tried to explain I just still don't understand

 

Essentially at this point my thoughts on Sooh are that she's sounding off, probably due to illness and that means nothing for her alignment

[Sooh]

 

Cop: Lily

vig: Z

lynch: Alanna

Doc: BFG

 

Go!

 

Explain to me what good a list like this does. You both listed me as cop. If I am the cop, and I'm not saying one way or the other, isn't that a little dangerous?

 

No, who they would like the cop to take a look at.

[LilyElizabeth]

Also I wanna ask the players that IF I become Post Count leader but keep myself in check with mostly content posts and not going overboard, will that be a problem?

 

Not for me, either, unless you go crazy with it.

[BFG]

BFG, I won't be able to look at Sooh until after day starts providing I'm alive.

 

I'll try to get my thoughts out on Z and Alanna before I go to sleep.

 

Ok, thanks 

 

 

 

 

Zander, if this is Cory's influence that makes you like this it's really messing with my ability to read you.

I liked this at the time and still do (will probably revisit when I get to Sooh vs Zander)

 

 

To be honest Cory has been busy, he's only really looking at reads with me and only instructions was to watch my post count and try to explain things better/more clearly and lunch the wolves.

 

I dont know if that helps much but make of it what you will.  I made a consciousness decision pre game as everyone knows to change my style.

 

 

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not bothered by how much you're discussing with Cory, the reason I liked it was because she was trying to understand why you were sounding different (and you really were) rather than just assuming it was one thing or another. I know it's one post, but the timing of it just felt right in terms of thread flow

 

 

 

Cop: Lily

vig: Z

lynch: Alanna

Doc: BFG

 

Go!

 

Explain to me what good a list like this does. You both listed me as cop. If I am the cop, and I'm not saying one way or the other, isn't that a little dangerous?

 

Not calling you cop

 

Who would you cop, vig, doc, lynch?

[BFG]

Zander I don't mind postcount BUT know that if you aim for 1000 posts again I'll cry in real life and that will make you feel bad :p