[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Hallia]

Voted* dat autocorrect

[BFG]

Zander, your catch-us making me go bug eyed. I think I'm ISOing here first.

[Hallia]

 

 

Morning all!

 

If I switched to anyone,not currently going to, it would be Snow. On D0, I'm happy anyone is talking about any actual gameplay at all. And you're voting Eld over it? Me no likey.

Why Snow?

 

What dont you like about people voting Eld?

I write why Snow in here. He's voting someone for talking about gameplay on D0. Like....is that a bad thing? Would he prefer fluff?

[BFG]

I think that, unless this has changed...he is an easy mislynch. He says what comes to mind, like myself, and gets bored easily.

I don't think I've played a game with him when he's been town. I have him as scummy mafia as well, but it seems 'easy' at the moment.

[Zander?]

Catching up

 

Page 21ish to last pageish

 

Shad - is this detail something that can be cleared up?

 

Turin - can you explain your read on Eldrick/Zander?

 

Sooh - stop stealing ny sleep <3 but also, interesting thought on triggers, will muse this afternoon.

 

Eldrick - why would you decide a lynch pre-rand? And I still don't 'get' it, you think Laine/Zander are likely t-t or m-m, yet you have Zander as null-town, so if you think he's going to flip town, and think that likely makes Laine town as well... Flashback tomasons in W13 (possibly Arthurian mafia, Sooh may remember which I mean)

I stole your sleep? How did I do that? *scratches head*

 

I should remember W13, but my memory is crap when it comes to old games. 

 

 

*snip*

 

we've only got 24 hours to find a wolf.  post count shouldnt be tooooooo bad has no night posting and short days this game Alanna

 

 

I approve of this gif usage.

 

 

So, Zander/Len likely v/v

Csarmi is town

Dice is also town

Eldrick may be a wolf

Sooh most likely a wolf. 

 

While I agree with most of the above I have to ask you what makes me most likely to be a wolf. Sure I joined the Zander parade, but for me to joke around with Zander at the beginning of games is kind of something that always happens. I'm interested to see whether you have something else other than a joke vote to condemn me for, or if you're just fishing.

 

Other than that I'm glad other people have checked in as well! 

 

I have town lean on:

 

Csarmi

Lenlo

Zander

 

BFG

Shad

 

 

Why?

[Hallia]

 

 

Morning all!

 

If I switched to anyone,not currently going to, it would be Snow. On D0, I'm happy anyone is talking about any actual gameplay at all. And you're voting Eld over it? Me no likey.

Why Snow?

 

What dont you like about people voting Eld?

I didn't say people voting Eld. I said Snows reasoning.

[Hallia]

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

[Sooh]

 

So, Zander/Len likely v/v

Csarmi is town

Dice is also town

Eldrick may be a wolf

Sooh most likely a wolf. 

 

 

Pral def feels off to me.l

 

One thing I do notice, now that Zander is doing catch up stuff, is that Pral has this list of leans, but BFG, who he's voting for, is nowhere in that leans list. I'm inclined to agree with Zander about Pral seeming off. 

[Zander?]

 

 

@Laine, one reason I asked Zander about his opinion on your unvote as he knows you better and was around. Self awareness of your vote is null to me, except for the indication of self consciousness.

 

I'm baffled that Zander as any alignment would try that, or think that it would work. I really don't want to clear Zander because "he wouldn't do that as mafia" because those arguments end badly, so I'm treating it as null. The issue is with how much of the early game that links into which doesn't leave me much to get a 'good' read from.

 

one thing I keep coming back to wondering is how similar this is to Yates in SW, is it like Yates trying to clear himself in which case I'd probably say no, or like Yates telling Seph to look in an old private mentor QT, which I dont remember Zander having an issue with. In reality it's somewhere between the 2 and I'm left at null. What's your opinion? You know him better :)

I hate voting Too much commitment and forgetfulness involved.

 

IRT Zander... I don't see him doing that as mafia. I'm not going to put him into a little town box for it, but I don't see wolf!Zander using information from a town PM to self clear. He's the type of person that would want to self clear through game play and not use silly tricks to try and gain favor. At the same time... with the petition from the sign up thread, he may have wanted to turn things in his favor quickly so that things didn't get out of hand, thus claiming like that, in which case it's definitely null. Overall so far I'm getting a cautious town read of Zander though some of his responses have come off quite defensive. First was how serious he became with Lenlo, and secondly some of his responses towards you were very reactive. Still within town meta but if he continues to push that envelope, I'll become worried.

 

I think the town would benefit focusing elsewhere a little bit to get Zander out of the spotlight so that we can read him in a different setting. 

 

Alanna is town for being the only reasonable and smart person to correctly analyze the Zander situation in the town.

 

 

[Sooh]

 

 

 

Catching up

 

Page 21ish to last pageish

 

Shad - is this detail something that can be cleared up?

 

Turin - can you explain your read on Eldrick/Zander?

 

Sooh - stop stealing ny sleep <3 but also, interesting thought on triggers, will muse this afternoon.

 

Eldrick - why would you decide a lynch pre-rand? And I still don't 'get' it, you think Laine/Zander are likely t-t or m-m, yet you have Zander as null-town, so if you think he's going to flip town, and think that likely makes Laine town as well... Flashback tomasons in W13 (possibly Arthurian mafia, Sooh may remember which I mean)

I stole your sleep? How did I do that? *scratches head*

 

I should remember W13, but my memory is crap when it comes to old games. 

 

 

*snip*

 

we've only got 24 hours to find a wolf.  post count shouldnt be tooooooo bad has no night posting and short days this game Alanna

 

 

I approve of this gif usage.

 

 

So, Zander/Len likely v/v

Csarmi is town

Dice is also town

Eldrick may be a wolf

Sooh most likely a wolf. 

 

While I agree with most of the above I have to ask you what makes me most likely to be a wolf. Sure I joined the Zander parade, but for me to joke around with Zander at the beginning of games is kind of something that always happens. I'm interested to see whether you have something else other than a joke vote to condemn me for, or if you're just fishing.

 

Other than that I'm glad other people have checked in as well! 

 

I have town lean on:

 

Csarmi

Lenlo

Zander

 

BFG

Shad

 

 

 

 

Why?

 

Keep reading!

[Sooh]

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

[Hallia]

 

 

 

 

So, Zander/Len likely v/v

Csarmi is town

Dice is also town

Eldrick may be a wolf

Sooh most likely a wolf.

 

Pral def feels off to me.l

One thing I do notice, now that Zander is doing catch up stuff, is that Pral has this list of leans, but BFG, who he's voting for, is nowhere in that leans list. I'm inclined to agree with Zander about Pral seeming off.

Had he already written about her when he voted her?

[Sooh]

He had. You think it's null?

[Lenlo]

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

+1

[Hallia]

If he had already listed reasoning with his vote I do. So yeah

[Shad_]

I wonder if I could get Verb to change my name to Jon Snow since the real one doesn't actually post anywhere.

Dibs on underscoreless Shad

[Zander?]

Monstr i think Zandet is wolf. Why dont you?

 

Why are you asking him when you yourself havent bothered to

 

You said Joke-Policy-Serious.  But you havent explained why it became serious,  You havent showed any real progression on me at all.  Why is that?

[BFG]

He had. You think it's null?

Yes, the read seems 'odd' but leaving me off that list is null imo

[Lenlo]

Wait a second...this just occured to me in my reread but Im pretty sure Len Town read me in WoW...i THINK he CLAIMED he had some inkling I was Scum there. But this pretty much would debunk his claim that he knows how to read as he claims I am Scum!Zander imo.

Alright assuming I did town read you, how does that in any way destroy my read on you? Your trying to invalidate my read not combat it. It's scummy as hell dude.

[Turin Turambar]

[unvote]

[V] zander [/v]

[Hallia]

 

 

Monstr i think Zandet is wolf. Why dont you?

Why are you asking him when you yourself havent bothered to

 

You said Joke-Policy-Serious. But you havent explained why it became serious, You havent showed any real progression on me at all. Why is that?

I....don't understand the first part....

[BFG]

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

 

+1

 

Which means what?

[Zander?]

 

Monstr i think Zandet is wolf. Why dont you?

 

Since when has defensiveness ever meant anyone was scum?

 

Since when has Zander NOT done something this silly in ANY GAME EVER?

 

You people just latch onto things and assume you're correct and none of your reasons have any basis to be used especially not when each players functions differently in specific situations

 

I have been overdefensive about me being town in literally every game I've ever been in

 

Find a new tell, because even on the offchance you're right it's for the wrong reasons.

 

 

 

Thank you brother and when i flip Town I hope people will read this and understand.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

 

[V] Eldrick [/v]

 

Need a counter wagon. Eldrick is my other most likely choice for mafia. Zander being the other. I however don't think they are teammates.

 

Currently thinking BFG, Lenlo and Dice are town.

 

Of those voting zander I suspect those that haven't given follow up reasons. (Sooh, but hopefully her stance will become clear soon).

 

Csarmi a bit weird to me so far also.

I have an issue with your need for a counter wagon, but I don't know if it's because I'm your choice.

 

Why do you need a counter wagon? What's wrong with voting someone you suspect that already has votes.

 

Also, why me? What have I done that makes you suspicious?

 

Cause trains that build very quickly D1 TEND to be Scum driven, Especially with the signup plan leaving a perfect excuse to Vote.

 

And the Bold....thats a joke right?

Cept your train buit then putters out quickly within 12 hours. I don't think it's indicative that I'm lynching a town. I think I'm lynching a wolf.

 

Also concentrate you vote Eldrick, the only player competing against you for today's lynch. Have up on me or is he your new top scum read?

[Hallia]

It seems he's giving the illusion of being involved without trying.