[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Eldrick4221]

Zander. I would vote Zander :)

[Eldrick4221]

I dunno. Today has mostly talk about game mechanics and inactives.

 

I know I participated in the game mechanics discussion, but that's me. I like figuring the game out.

 

I'm glad I don't have to vote. Not feeling strongly about anyone.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

BFG claims it is because of my confidence but is it bad to feel better about a game?

 

Ah! You're right, now I remember. Because I noticed the same thing. You were VERY unsure last game and a lot more confident here. What changed from then to here? Do you have a reads list?

Right now it's Sooh, Calder, and Lenlo that ping me. I can't really do a list because I'm posting from phone. BFG, Nolder, and Shad are in the null section. Monst, Hallia, and you are slight town. The others I'm not quite sure yet.

Why do they ping you?

[Celeste]

 

 

 

BFG claims it is because of my confidence but is it bad to feel better about a game?

Ah! You're right, now I remember. Because I noticed the same thing. You were VERY unsure last game and a lot more confident here. What changed from then to here? Do you have a reads list?

Right now it's Sooh, Calder, and Lenlo that ping me. I can't really do a list because I'm posting from phone. BFG, Nolder, and Shad are in the null section. Monst, Hallia, and you are slight town. The others I'm not quite sure yet.

Why do they ping you?

Mainly tone wise and the mindset of their posts don't seem town like.

[Turin Turambar]

Zander. I would vote Zander :)

 

LMAO

[Eldrick4221]

 

Final Vote count!

 

Zander - 4 - Lenlo, csarmi, Hallia, Turin

alannalynn - 1 - Nolder

Eldrick - 7 - Shad, John Snow, manbat, Zander, Dicetosser1, BFG, Sooh

BFG - 1 - Pralaya

Pralaya - 1 - Calder

 

Day Zero is now over. Do not post.

Bringing this up, in case it has anything to do with what roles people got. There were likely triggers, and I'm betting something about this is involved.

[BFG]

Turin, I get that Pral being 'different' doesn't make him mafia, but why does it make him town instead of null?

[BFG]

Lenlo - what are your current reads?

 

Laine - what about the list, specifically, makes you want to rip your eyes out lol?

[dicetosser1]

wont be up at 4am for DL so will vote now.

 

 

vote celeste

 

shes bottom of my list i still cant remember anything from her except her saying shes more confidant cause she wasnt here d1. 

 

 

now good night

[BFG]

Celeste, specific questions...

 

What was it you said in WOW that you think is relevant here?

 

When you joined you said you'd read 30? pages, thought everyone was town and were starting again from D1. So what was it you observed in those pages that made you feel comfortable?

 

What difference was there between your turbo game and this one that I missed? Why tell me to look there?

 

Can you try to show some examples about what's 'off' about Sooh, Calder, Lenlo?

 

And no increased confidence isn't bad, but you were adamant last game that the uncertainty was part of your town game, so what's changd? you also seemed more emotionally invested last game, even very early on, I don't see the same here, but neither did I get the impression last game that it was a staple of your town game the way the uncertainty seemed to be.

[BFG]

Shad -

 

 

 

ok I think I understand more. My town game encompasses everything, my mafia game encompasses a small subset of that which can generally be described as surface level work, unenthusiasm, low thread presence, etc, etc, etc. I can and have roamed like that, but I have never been mafia with good thread presence (possible exception of Darthes Metal game which was over 2 years ago?)

 

I dont feel I've been particularly aggressive this game, but maybe check End Day 1 HP for something that might be similar?

 

 

I think your ISO is top of my list when I get time, hopefully it will actually help

 

 

[BFG]

Lenlo, from the read list what was the difference between Snow/Pral and Thane? And also the difference between Hallia and Nolder?

[BFG]

Bye Dice :(

 

Anyone else here? I have 10 minutes...

[Zander?]

Why do people think there were mafia D0?

 

Why do people think that there wasn't both are possible.

 

 

Still waiting on any proof of rolefishing on my part.

It wasn't fishing, but it sure felt like it. It was borderline. You get that, right?

 

 

It was very fishy imo.

 

 

Why do people think there were mafia D0?

bump for new page.

 

 

Because its just as possible as not.

 

 

 

 

Why do people think there were mafia D0?

bump for new page.

I don't see why there wouldn't be.

 

Also, I kind of hate the thought of a 47 page d0 only to realize it's almost useless. 47 pages of crap.

 

Troll mods confirmed.

 

But it isn't useless. There is still some information to be had. Look for people that have changed.

 

 

But didnt you say there were no Maf DO???!!!!

[Zander?]

Zander. I would vote Zander :)

 

Solid Lynch imo!!!!!

 

wont be up at 4am for DL so will vote now.

 

 

vote celeste

 

shes bottom of my list i still cant remember anything from her except her saying shes more confidant cause she wasnt here d1. 

 

 

now good night

 

 

did you bring up anything on celeste cause I dont remember you doing so and i dont remember you posting a list of reads either.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Zander. I would vote Zander :)

Solid Lynch imo!!!!!

wont be up at 4am for DL so will vote now.

 

 

vote celeste

 

shes bottom of my list i still cant remember anything from her except her saying shes more confidant cause she wasnt here d1.

 

 

now good night

 

did you bring up anything on celeste cause I dont remember you doing so and i dont remember you posting a list of reads either.

I don't either. This smells of jumping on the lead train. Especially with no reason and planning to miss the DL

[Eldrick4221]

Turin.

 

I change my answer to dice. That was gross.

[Clovdyx]

Vote count:

• Celeste - 3 - Hallia, BFG, Zander
• Turin Turambar - 2 - Lenlo, manbat
• Manbat - 2 - Shad, Turin Turambar
• Hallia - 1 - csarmi
• Shad - 1 - Sooh
• Lenlo - 2 - Laine, Celeste

 

 

You da real MVP.

[Cory Caboose]

Vote count:

• Celeste - 4 - Hallia, BFG, Zander, dicetosser1
• Turin Turambar - 2 - Lenlo, manbat
• Manbat - 2 - Shad, Turin Turambar
• Hallia - 1 - csarmi
• Shad - 1 - Sooh
• Lenlo - 2 - Laine, Celeste

[Zander?]

BFG is town

 

He answers this that with only because I said so.

 

 

 

 

HARDCLAIM:  ZANDER- HOLLYWOOD STUNTMAN VANILLA TOWN

 

 

Anyone who is Town will know the Color I choose was from my PM.

 

 

 

Also y'all comparing role PMs probably isn't smart

 

 

 

Zander   this is called PM matching and its not on. This is why csarmi policy voted you and if it wasnt for that so would I. I have seen a game screwed up by people doing this.

 

Im NOT going to vote you at this point even tho my name is on the petition. There was a VERY quick pile on you just for that and it seemed truly serious where as i was joking with it.

 

Nowever I am watching you 

 

 

This is just one of the posts he kinda of soft pushes at me. Bold is very strange coming from Dice.  Anyone have thoughts on that?

 

 

Dangit. I wanted to be first. Got my role pm at 7. When I found out at 11, the thread wasn't up yet. I went back to sleep lol.

 

[v]Zander [/v]

 

fair enuff

 

 

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?

It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.

 

 

this sets my teeth on edge

 

 

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

 

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

 

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

 

 

 

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

All it means is he believes town pm color is purple. That doesn't mean town is the only one that gets purple. It doesn't mean he's town. This isn't worth discussing.

 

 

tries to dismiss the colour talk

 

 

 

 

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?

It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.

Serious?

 

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

 

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

 

 

red  actually  the way it started we would learn very little

 

blue  i had a question mark about this  he explains soon

 

 

 

 

Ugh, this is an awful argument.

 

Zander's posting in purple, means he's either town or mafia have a sample Town role PM, or both /shrug

 

It doesn't clear him, his reaction is pretty extreme though.

 

 

 

Laine's reaction is marginally more interesting, there isn't a majority hammer Day 0, so her unvote is unnecessary, so she's conscious of her vote, but I'm not sure this means much at this point.

All it means is he believes town pm color is purple. That doesn't mean town is the only one that gets purple. It doesn't mean he's town. This isn't worth discussing.

So you dont feel this is relevant at all? Not just pertaining to me but anyone thus far?

No. I dont. If you are town, you would know the color.

 

If you are scum, you could have a sample and believe you know the color

 

And we have no idea what color 3rd parties got their pm in. It might also be purple to make this null.

 

The color of your role bears no distinction to your alignment until proven otherwise.

 

 

brings up 3p   he mentions 3p a couple of times

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Zander, what do you think about Laine's vote/unvote?

It's been noted. I was under the impression Zander was going down N0. That's why the petition got attention. If he flips scum, I am looking at her for backing off.

Serious?

 

Ok, what if he flips town?

Then we were wrong. It happens. And we learn something from how people acted about it.

 

If he flips town, it won't make Laine look scummy for unvoting.

I CALL BS

 

Nothing would be learned because everyone could just say they were just following the joke.

Except that my staying on you getting lynched isn't a joke reason anymore. The fact that Laine unvoted so quickly looks bad if you are scum. So I want to find out.

 

 

so why not vote Laine then??

 

@Lenlo

 

Irt Laine unvoting and Zander flipping town.

 

I said she doesn't look scummy for it because she wouldn't have the "he's my teammate. I'm backing of this joke train" vibe

 

If she's scum and he's town, she wouldn't know that. She would only know he isn't on her team. And she would look 'not scum' to me because scum would stay on the train if it wasn't a teammate imo.

 

except scum DO white Knight townies.

 

 

 

@Lenlo

 

Irt Laine unvoting and Zander flipping town.

 

I said she doesn't look scummy for it because she wouldn't have the "he's my teammate. I'm backing of this joke train" vibe

 

If she's scum and he's town, she wouldn't know that. She would only know he isn't on her team. And she would look 'not scum' to me because scum would stay on the train if it wasn't a teammate imo.

Odd, if Laine was mafia and Zander wasn't on her team why wouldn't she know he was town? Odds are extremely good he'd be town not third party in that scenario...

But people seem to forget they exist. If you aren't scum, you're town. There's also the possibility of 2 scum teams. We don't know. That's what I'm getting at. She wouldn't know he's town.

 

 

3p again

 

 

 

vote eldrick  he is either scum or 3p   feels like he has info i dont

 

Dice telling people to vote Eld but wont vote him himself....Does that sound like Town!Dice to anyone?

 

He jumped on Alanna cause he didnt like a single response to a kinda joke in Bellicheat (he was even correct there)

[Cory Caboose]

Hi chris

[Clovdyx]

Vote count:

• Celeste - 4 - Hallia, BFG, Zander, dicetosser1
• Turin Turambar - 2 - Lenlo, manbat
• Manbat - 2 - Shad, Turin Turambar
• Hallia - 1 - csarmi
• Shad - 1 - Sooh
• Lenlo - 2 - Laine, Celeste

 

I was literally about to do this.  You da real MVP to doe

[Clovdyx]

Hi, Cory.

[Zander?]

clov u missed my vote on eldrick

 

jic i screwed it up\

 

vote eldrick

 

Just incase D0 is relevant.

 

guess i continue to muddle thru then

 

 

 

For example

 

Dice: Gun to head if you were at f3 and you had to lynch between me and lenlo, who would you pick?

 

you

 

lenlo was pretty townie i thought D0 and im not seeing a change so far  he gave me one puase when he said something that felt VERY similar to something Zander said to him in matrix but thats it.  Y

 

 

 

the above is how far i got before my gut told me im wrong   id now vote len cause len CAN say things on purpose that i will town read him for   you cant.

 

Again saying he would vote someone but wont......

 

 

 

People keep calling it AtE as if I was trying to blackmail you with emotions

 

No I was just really mad

Intentional or not, you had a meltdown and suddenly were fine again. You threatened/implied you were gonna leave the game because afew people wolfread you.

 

Not to name names, but there are some people I know who fake that to make people feel bad for them and get them off their case.

 

 

I never actually said at any point that I was leaving the game

 

I said "Whatever I quit" Out of frustration then continued posting 50 times afterwords

 

I said "I deliberated quitting but have never done so and will never do so in any game"

 

And from my perspective, Zander was opening the floodgates that allows every villager to vote me with no real reason and no recourse from it because the case had already been laid out

 

So yes, I over-reacted and I tried tirelessly to convince him he was wrong

 

But not once did I quit this game, so the point is moot.

 

 

im gonna remind u of Yates in the Scooby Doo game we played. that argument dont fly 

 

Dice who you wanna vote brother?

 

I think nows the time to start creating pressure with some votes.

 

We dont know if D0 mattered or not so lets start to smoke out dem wolves!!!!!!!

 

not manbat. i can see what shads saying but i also hear manbat being manbat and i dont think ive ever seen him as scum. might be wrong but dont remember it. he posts a few things that get me questioning but.

 

sooh is freaking me out cause we have mindmelded a couple of times. I THINK shes town but im not used to being on the same page as her so im a bit wary

 

turin has done pretty much nothing except discuss game setup. problem is ive seen him do that before too and like i said i dont have ithi here to make things easier. even with her he takes me a couple of days

 

not getting the celeste vote but i dont really remember anything she or snow has said

 

i think len is town but that uni has blunted that so people are missing it

 

ive got hally as town   

 

gun to head celeste or turin  probably celeste over turin

 

i could also lynch you zan as always! :D

 

 

Strange comment on Len

 

First time Dice mentions Celeste all game and 0 reasoning behind it.

[Zander?]

 

Vote count:

• Celeste - 4 - Hallia, BFG, Zander, dicetosser1
• Turin Turambar - 2 - Lenlo, manbat
• Manbat - 2 - Shad, Turin Turambar
• Hallia - 1 - csarmi
• Shad - 1 - Sooh
• Lenlo - 2 - Laine, Celeste

 

I was literally about to do this.  You da real MVP to doe

 

 

MVP's awards are irrelevant only CBP's  awards matter imo.