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[Zander?]

I'm not interested in lynching Yates or Zander.

 

Dice is wolfy.

 

Len is wolfy.

 

These are the people we should be focused on.

 

 

I feel stronger about Dice then Len atp.  What is it about Yates you're seeing as Town that I'm not?

[Zander?]

History is written by the winners.

 

 

YOU. COMPLETE. ME.

 

:wub:

[Zander?]

Zander - since it will be a while until I can finish my catch up I need you to answer some questions real quick:

 

1. When have I ever been lynched Day 1 and things ended well for Town?

2. Given your stated opinion on Clov, when did I become a Day 1 lynch candidate for you - EVER?

3. Have you ever actually caught scum role fishing?

 

I won't even get into the OMGUS accusation thing. Because that fake "tell" has been disproven time and again.

 

1, What does that matter if I think you're a wolf?  Basically why does that matter at all?

2. My stated opinion on Clov?  Please provide me that post and while we on providing posts, please provide me with the one YOU stated you answer my why leave AJ out before I voted cause if you did I  must have missed it.

3. Nope but there's a first time for everything right?

 

And again with the dismissing of something else..."Defensiveness" is a  crutch. "OMGUS" is disproven.  Dude if these things weren't real and didn't happen or matter THEY WOULD NOT BE USED IN MAFIA GAMES.  So they must have some sort of value right?

[Zander?]

 

It is part of the reason Yates but [not] the only part.

Okay then I guess I'm confused? What is the rest of it, again?

 

 

 

 

 

It's like you guys may be trying to go fishing and that's not sitting well with me at all...

More like I'm the crotchety old fish trying to teach these young whipper snappers [get it? snapper? HA!] how to roundhouse kick a hook instead of swallowing it.

 

 

 

Sorry brother but you're not doing anything to make me feel better about my concerns.  You ignored my point about you leaving out AJ's peek while responding to stuff afterwards, your responses are seemingly coming off as nonchalant or brushing them aside instead of trying to help explain it out and address the actual concerns and it seems like you ARE role fishing.

 

[v] Yates [/v]

 

 

Those were my concerns when I voted you.  Your defensive thus far after it has done nothing to change my mind brother,  You said you were gonna re evaluate after so I'll see what comes from it.

[Taborline]

[V]taborline[/V]

 

Wwsd?

 

What Would Satan Do?

[Zander?]

[V]taborline[/V]

 

Wwsd?

 

Raisins?

 

Swag does what he wants.

 

Better raisins?

 

 

 

[V]taborline[/V]

 

Wwsd?

 

What Would Satan Do?

 

 

 

You have thoughts to share my dear?

[Thane Vakarian]

History is written by the winners.

The written history of the losers would be more interesting, so you can learn from their mistakes

 

#icanphilosophy

[Songstress]

Actually while on Lenlo,

 

Tress, is the WW2 mafia/survivor-symp discussion normal for you guys?

 

Compiling reads before work, but I remembered I saw a question addressed to me and wanted to grab it and answer this first...  

 

The WW2 game and the survivor/symp debacle was Len's finest mafia memory I think.  Since I was in that game, and he convinced the others to lynch me instead of him, it tends to come up when we play together, yes

 

I retaliate by reminding him that i won our 2 out of 3 One Power battle series in the Black Tower and forced him to wear a sig with a pink tutu on it for a week.

[Shad_]

Lenlo's push on Clov and Bender's push on Yates were both flawed.  The fact that Clov/Yates were able to refute them doesn't say anything about Clov or Yates' alignment.  I didn't fully wrap my head around Bender vs Yates but got a lot of v/v vibes from it on first read, and I think a lot of the conflict came out of interpreting the same data differently.  It's something I doubt I'll have time to look at again before deadline.

 

Lenlo's push on Clov was straight-up factually bogus in bold, painful ways.  My gut reaction in hydra QT (which has been a monologue so far) was to call it twtbaw, mainly because I felt he paid slightly more attention as a wolf in Matrix.  I thought town!Lenlo might be a little overzealous and not stop to consider what he was saying.  I've since started to remember stuff like scum reading Rack and null reading Thane while throwing them in his town and scum piles respectively in Matrix, and I think the whole failure to pay attention thing does not deserve any sort of pass.

 

Maybe the biggest issue with Lenlo's go at Clov is that he never really went back to reassess it.  His vote is still there and he's said he's fine with that.  I can see scum making a bad aggro move early on or town fishing for reactions to evaluate later, but I struggle to accept that Lenlo continues to believe, right now, that the case he built against Clov at that time had a leg to stand on.  (Even if Clov is mafia.)  His points were massively out of context--stuff like calling out Clov for being overly defensive when Clov was responding to a direct question made one post above him. And his thought process was contradictory on the surface.  If I find the time I'll go back and dissect it to show you exactly where I'm coming from, but I have a long day ahead of me and Ollie doesn't go to bed until after DL.  My last comment in hydra QT was that in the absence of any meta I would [v]Lenlo[/v] right now, and I think I'll roll with that.

 

I peeked Dice.  Thane strongest town atm.  Feeling good about AJ and BFG.

 

Am I sheeping AJ a little?  Yeah maybe.

[Shad_]

Out for a while.  :\

[Lenlo]

That you did. I still have that tutu soggy somewhere I think...

 

It is one of my favorites, cause it was so bad yet worked.

[Lenlo]

I've already said that parts of that case weren't great and I just used them to get Clov to react Shad. That daid, he is still my best option for today.

 

I would like you to go back and dissect it. More posts is more to read.

[Lenlo]

Siggy*

 

Ebwop

[Taborline]

 

[V]taborline[/V]

 

Wwsd?

 

Raisins?

 

Swag does what he wants.

 

Better raisins?

 

 

 

[V]taborline[/V]

 

Wwsd?

 

What Would Satan Do?

 

 

 

You have thoughts to share my dear?

 

 

I do, I am just going through and taking notes and will be back with reads.

[Cory Caboose]

Vote Count

 

Bender (1/13) Dice
Yates (1/13) Bender
Clov (1/13) Lenlo

Lenlo (2/13) AJ, Shadooh

Taborline (1/13) Clov


Not Voting (7/13)
Pralaya, Notbob, Tress, Thane, Tab, Yates, BFG


Deadline is in 10 hours

 

[Andrej]

sometimes i just read the posts, either shake my head or laugh... and then go like: 'wtf di i just read?', and go read it again....

What's this about?

[Andrej]

DL is in 9 hours I thought?

[Lenlo]

Shadooh? Who is Shad hydraed with? I completely missed that and might need to reevaluate the slot.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

sometimes i just read the posts, either shake my head or laugh... and then go like: 'wtf di i just read?', and go read it again....

What's this about?

 

Mainly the Interaction of Bender (both players) and Yates. There's a reason I don't like hydra's (they confuse the hell out of me). 

 

And yes, should be 9 hours

[Thane Vakarian]

Shadooh? Who is Shad hydraed with? I completely missed that and might need to reevaluate the slot.

with Sooh, who I don't recall having posted yet

[Andrej]

I feel stronger about Dice then Len atp. What is it about Yates you're seeing as Town that I'm not?

I see a very dusty bottom.

 

It's gut mostly. You guys look like villagers throwing punches at one another. I think one of the big reasons you're sussing him about not mentioning my peek was more incidental than intentional and he's also explained that he would trust that I know what I'm doing in the event I wasn't naming an actual peek and just providing cover.

[Taborline]

I am wondering why no one at all brought up AJ's post about BFG until after Yates' posts about seer cover/replies to Shad.

[Cory Caboose]

Deadline is 10 PM est / 9 PM whatever shad's time is.

 

10 hours. Noobs.

[Andrej]

I think because the intent was clear.

[Lenlo]

 

 

Shadooh? Who is Shad hydraed with? I completely missed that and might need to reevaluate the slot.

with Sooh, who I don't recall having posted yet

Ok, makes sense then.