[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[Nolder]

Darthe you will address me as Sir

 

I am incredibly underwhelmed with you and Nolder

 

Change my mind or you'll see my fire with front row seating

Underwhelm seems to be your middle name this game. Fire? You're not even smoldering.

[Nolder]

Ok it's 10 to midnight and I'm fully caught up. That was fun exhausting. Let's do it again tomorrow.

[Andrej]

Was planning on doing a big WOT catch-up style post, but after reading ~30 something pages and seeing that I had less than 20 posts I wanted to actually comment on, I'll forego that and just take a big consciousness dump ITT. Most topics have been touched on and repeated enough that I don't feel the need to add anything - so I'll try to bring some fresh points to the thread.

 

Shad's joke vote on Seph early on reminds me of how he started in the Belichick game, which is cool considering our synergy in that one. I had some more of his stuff quoted in the queue before I wiped them all that I liked as well. His comments towards Hallia/wish-tree are pretty villagery and carry that sort of uncanny poise he has for a newer player. Good vibes from him thus far.

 

Wish-Tree strikes me as a Hallia.2 in the first few pages of the game. Don't know what that means yet but it's the impression I got, so there you have it.

 

Hallia and Nyn are passing the eyeball test so far. Halli's coming out strong against Kiv and I think her reaction to his whining is good in the sense that she's an emotive player and I would expect her to react that way to that sort of thing. Nyn's sharpness came out once she got past her intro catch-up. She's picking up on the details I think she would as town regarding Kiv's Pral vote, and the responses to Celeste/wish-tree are the amusingly blunt type we all know and love.

 

Wombat's OP at a glance makes me think the randomizing wasn't so good to him, more gut than anything. Wanna see him get more involved once things picked up more beyond the catch up style posts.

 

Zander/Seph/Laine seem to doing that townie circle jerk thing they like to do - we'll see how that progresses. Zander is easy going but I'll be looking for when he starts to make cases after our last game together where he got by a lot on being 'Zander'. Don't really have an opinion regarding Laine picking up Mynd's torch, the stance itself is null but we'll see where she goes with it. Not much about Seph stuck out to me beyond him reiterating a lot that he really likes wish-tree/Celeste.

 

Kivish slot giving me some troubles atm. I basically hate Kivam's approach this game, first with me and then later with Pral and the subsequent backtracking, but Mish feels pretty genuine with how she's reacting to things ITT. Wouldn't really have thought Mish would be the redeeming quality for them (no offense) but if they weren't paired I would support a Kiv wagon at this point.

[Andrej]

Feels like I'm forgetting to mention something, whatever.

 

It's been a long day/night.

[Nolder]

Seems like everyone is playing catch up in this game.

[Andrej]

Probably gonna be like that until the roster thins out a bit.

 

Summer time is just a bad time for me because I can't be on my phone during the day.

 

Once school starts again in a few weeks it'll get better.

[Zander?]

 

 

One more time with feeling: i made no accusation against Pral. I prodded him to participate because if he happens to be scum this game, i want content to analyze. If I haven't made this clear enough in this and other threads, I DON'T BELIEVE IN META. Good players can stay consistent across alignment and bad players will get caught making mistakes with or without meta on them. Other than wanting to know if particular arguments are out of character for a player (if i start advocating no lynch D1, there's something weird going on), things like affect and tone are meaningless to me, because they can be faked so easily Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

I don't see how the bold isn't a complete lie.  

 

 

Since nobody is doing anything ... [v]Pralaya[/v].  If my memory is right, he likes to lurk as scum, and hasn't checked in yet.  Pral, where're you at?  Start laying some content down.

 

 

That was your vote and explanation.  You could have just voted him and made a comment like "Come out and play" and left it there.  You deliberately pointed out that you associate him with lurking as mafia, and you point out that he's not being active.  You didn't say, "I think Pral is scum", but I think there's a pretty clear insinuation in that post.

 

 

+1

[alannalynn]

Catch up WoT later. And hello. Zander's here? What about the other early morning people?

[Cory Caboose]

I woke up early because I had a nightmare that Hallia was mafia

 

What the hell is wrong with me

[Zander?]

 

I have a mild concern about a player but I am not going to air it out yet

 

The player I was concerned about was BFG.

 

At the time BFG had made a single post:

 

Good morning :)

 

Innocuous enough. I think this is about ~8 AM her time, so a checking in before work/whatever type deal. I expected she'd post a couple of times and chat around before her volume dropped off, as she's been very comfortable and very involved in her last handful of villager games. 

 

Nothing followed this. Again, not going to condemn someone who could be having a busy morning, IDK what people's IRL deals are, whatever. But it reminded me of something I had mentally noted down in 9 to 5 mafia when I was her mafia partner for a day (she subbed out around ~n1) - BFG has some trouble naturally interacting in real time with people as Mafia. IDK if it's just that little trigger in your brain that looks over a post and goes "should I post?" not hitting out of some weird self-consciousness, but I remember it there, and I remember in the one day I was playing with her I was making sure to talk to her ITT and give her lines to pursue because she wasn't really moving on her own volition.

 

She was more active in a different Mafia game - AH's Pokemon game - and I am going to look it over when I get time, but even know her contribution is one "larger" more succinct reads posts where she discusses various things (#582) but again is not really interested in communicating openly and in real-time. Reminds me a lot of Cass tbh - assumes people will find a wall of words / reads villagery and leave it alone for some time, but lacks the minute-by-minute commitment and willingness to relax and discuss ITT.

 

Not a condemnation and I want to to chew on it some more but if I would guess this is Mafia!BFG more often than Town!BFG by a fair margin.

 

 

interesting to keep in mind.  BFG usually pretty clear early on as Town.  But wanna give her some time as Clov's natural evilness could be influencing poor BFG!!!!

 

lololololol

[Zander?]

Morning Alanna!!!

 

Morning Cory!!!

[Zander?]

 

And I so think we should have some sort of mafia bonds. Verb! Make it happen!

Dibbs on making Zander my mafia wife.

 

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

One more time with feeling: i made no accusation against Pral. I prodded him to participate because if he happens to be scum this game, i want content to analyze. If I haven't made this clear enough in this and other threads, I DON'T BELIEVE IN META. Good players can stay consistent across alignment and bad players will get caught making mistakes with or without meta on them. Other than wanting to know if particular arguments are out of character for a player (if i start advocating no lynch D1, there's something weird going on), things like affect and tone are meaningless to me, because they can be faked so easily Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

I don't see how the bold isn't a complete lie.  

 

 

Since nobody is doing anything ... [v]Pralaya[/v].  If my memory is right, he likes to lurk as scum, and hasn't checked in yet.  Pral, where're you at?  Start laying some content down.

 

 

That was your vote and explanation.  You could have just voted him and made a comment like "Come out and play" and left it there.  You deliberately pointed out that you associate him with lurking as mafia, and you point out that he's not being active.  You didn't say, "I think Pral is scum", but I think there's a pretty clear insinuation in that post.

 

Also something to note is that Pral wasn't the only player that hadn't checked in at the time either.  So it's interesting that Kivam singles him out.

 

 

i missed that,  nice catch!!

[alannalynn]

 

 

And I so think we should have some sort of mafia bonds. Verb! Make it happen!

Dibbs on making Zander my mafia wife.

 

 

 

 Ahem? Yates

 

[Zander?]

Sili - why disappointing? You're misreading my subjective intent, the same way clov and nyn are. No amount of arguing is going to convince you about what's in my head, so what's the point? Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

prolly a few more then that....

 

again with these types of comments!!!

 

this emo, AtE type comments are not a good look for you man.

[Zander?]

 

And his continued silence means nothing to me about his alignment. Why, what does it mean to you?

Nothing. It's null. But I didn't call him out on his activity. See what I'm saying?

 

this ^^^^

[Yates]

I woke up early because I had a nightmare that Hallia was mafia

Ha! I was coming in to post that I had a nightmare last night [this morning?] that the scum team was you, Hally, Nyn, and Thane and everyone got mad at me post game for calling you guys Town and losing the game and I felt terrible about it.

 

I'm telling you that if Thane replaces in to this game I'm turbo lynching that slot just to be safe.

[Yates]

Ahem? Yates

I will fight you. I don't care.

 

Also, what do you think of Nyn vs Kivish?

[alannalynn]

 

Ahem? Yates

I will fight you. I don't care.

 

Also, what do you think of Nyn vs Kivish?

You would lose to a girl and I would laugh at you as you crawled away.

Nothing as of yet, I'm not caught up. I think Nyn is a nice enough lady though.

[Yates]

K. Get caught up and get back to me. I'm going to hit the showers. Maybe stretch a bit just in case you try to Kato me. I'll leave my webcam on to prove self defense and just trust that you all won't watch like pervs...

[Pralaya]

A bit late to the party but here nevertheless.

 

Catching up on the game !

[Sili Quirrels]

*yawn*

[Sili Quirrels]

good night. lol. it was a busy day.

 

is this pralaya's first post?

[Sili Quirrels]

prolly a few more then that....

 

again with these types of comments!!!

 

this emo, AtE type comments are not a good look for you man.

I don't even know what to think. Kivam dropped me off a cliff.

[Kivam]

690 - that's neither emo nor AtE. It's not wanting to get sucked into a meaningless back and forth where the only point i can make is "you're wrong". There's no real utility in repeating that over and over, no matter how true it is.

 

But you tell me - what would/should TownKiv do to respond to someone who is misreading his subjective intent?

 

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