British Monarchy Mafia- Game Over, Town Wins!!!

[Eldrick4221]

I agree that his lynch shouldn't be rushed, so I have been looking at other things going on. Trying to figure out what happened last night, and why everyone is still alive.

[Eldrick4221]

I found a role that could explain why Hally couldn't view Dice, and it very much IS a town role.

 

[unvote]

 

I'd like confirmation that it's what happened, though, if you don't mind Dice.

[dicetosser1]

I did nothing last night

[Eldrick4221]

There are two ways Hally's failed view makes sense.

 

1) She was blocked

2) She was unable to view Dice

 

We have speculated the reason is that Notbob blocked her. This is possible. It's possible that they decided to not kill anyone last night to confuse us.

Along this train of thought, it's possible that Razen is GF, and claimed RB cuz Notbob can do it.

 

If this isn't the case though, if the reason Hally's view failed is because of Dice, I'd like to know.

[Eldrick4221]

Thank you dice.

 

So Hally's view failed because Notbob blocked her, if the reason for it failing isn't on Dice's end.

 

Why did they let Talya live?

 

We know that Talya isn't GF, because she knew that Pral had visited Hally N3. The reason isn't because she's mafia.

[Eldrick4221]

My head hurts. This is it from me tonight. Hopefully we'll figure out more tomorrow.

[Eldrick4221]

I wanted to make sure we weren't missing something. Assuming Hally's view failed is bad. Assuming in general is bad. I was looking at what else could have caused it.

[Eldrick4221]

EBWOP

  On 7/25/2015 at 11:01 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I wanted to make sure we weren't missing something. Assuming Hally's view failed because of RB is bad. Assuming in general is bad. I was looking at what else could have caused it.

[Razen]

That's weird.  I know for a fact that I submitted a block on NB.  I don't get a result back though, so I have no clue if it succeeds or not or if it even targets the person I submitted it on.

 

The only way it makes sense to me is if someone else has a redirect role.  If it was NB, he wouldn't have been able to visit Hally, since I would have blocked the action from happening.  The question is, who would have switched us?  NB looked really, really bad yesterday because he was seen visiting Hally with Pral, and we know that Pral was the doctor.  If you're town, you need to take responsibility for switching us.  Because otherwise, it looks like scum have a bus driver or something out there.

 

I'm not liking this, because if my theory is correct, my roleblock prevented a kill.  I don't see why mafia would holster in this situation, dead townies almost always benefit them.  And since it looks like Hally was the one that ended up RB'ed...

[Eldrick4221]

  On 7/25/2015 at 6:25 AM, Aiel Heart said:

Wait a second...

 

 

He voted Eld because there was no kill N3 when he blocked him.

 

But he also blocked Eld N1 and there was still a kill.....

 

Grah my brain is shutting down. May be a townie explanation for that , and we don't know full game mechanice in regard to the blocking, but that's sticking out to me too

All this means is I didn't submit a kill night 1, which I didn't because I can't.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 7/25/2015 at 12:55 PM, Razen said:

That's weird. I know for a fact that I submitted a block on NB. I don't get a result back though, so I have no clue if it succeeds or not or if it even targets the person I submitted it on.

 

The only way it makes sense to me is if someone else has a redirect role. If it was NB, he wouldn't have been able to visit Hally, since I would have blocked the action from happening. The question is, who would have switched us? NB looked really, really bad yesterday because he was seen visiting Hally with Pral, and we know that Pral was the doctor. If you're town, you need to take responsibility for switching us. Because otherwise, it looks like scum have a bus driver or something out there.

 

I'm not liking this, because if my theory is correct, my roleblock prevented a kill. I don't see why mafia would holster in this situation, dead townies almost always benefit them. And since it looks like Hally was the one that ended up RB'ed...

I considered the bus driver thing. It doesn't work though, because they would have shown up as a target for talya, wouldn't they? They target x and y. Either way, Talya would have seen one side of the swap.

[Eldrick4221]

Something I considered is rbers can't block each other, but I think if that was the case, razen would have said something by now.

 

Maybe it's a timing thing? NotBob submitted first, so his block works.

[Eldrick4221]

Why are you not liking that your roleblock prevented a kill?

[Eldrick4221]

[v]Razen [/v]

[Razen]

  On 7/25/2015 at 1:02 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Something I considered is rbers can't block each other, but I think if that was the case, razen would have said something by now.

 

Maybe it's a timing thing? NotBob submitted first, so his block works.

It could be, I don't know what the mechanics are.  But if I blocked him from blocking someone else, that should have not gone through.

 

The only way that this is making sense to me is if I was RB'ed last night.  It's the only way that NB could have gone on his nightly visit.  But it doesn't make sense to block me with two claimed investigative roles out there.  And if we accept that, it means that Dice has something to explain about his role.

[Razen]

  On 7/25/2015 at 1:04 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Why are you not liking that your roleblock prevented a kill?

 

I don't think I prevented a kill, that's the problem.  That means that mafia had to have holstered.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 7/25/2015 at 12:55 PM, Razen said:

That's weird. I know for a fact that I submitted a block on NB. I don't get a result back though, so I have no clue if it succeeds or not or if it even targets the person I submitted it on.

 

The only way it makes sense to me is if someone else has a redirect role. If it was NB, he wouldn't have been able to visit Hally, since I would have blocked the action from happening. The question is, who would have switched us? NB looked really, really bad yesterday because he was seen visiting Hally with Pral, and we know that Pral was the doctor. If you're town, you need to take responsibility for switching us. Because otherwise, it looks like scum have a bus driver or something out there.

I'm not liking this, because if my theory is correct, my roleblock prevented a kill. I don't see why mafia would holster in this situation, dead townies almost always benefit them. And since it looks like Hally was the one that ended up RB'ed...

Explain the bolded.

[Aiel Heart]

  On 7/25/2015 at 7:35 AM, Talya said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 6:10 AM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 7/22/2015 at 3:42 PM, Talya said:

Out of interest Hally, what is the result you get back...character or alignment etc?

This question has felt strange to me every time I have read it

Why is this strange when I'm a watcher and want to know about her role because there is doubt in my mind about this. Anyone claims you should ask questions.

 

It's more strange when she'd claimed two days before and you only ask after she's looked at you that you ask her what she can see. 

 

Literally just rolled out of bed and this was the open page so I looked at this first. Going to wait till I wake up more before I try to dredge up stuff from this. 

[Eldrick4221]

  On 7/25/2015 at 1:11 PM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 7:35 AM, Talya said:

 

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 6:10 AM, Aiel Heart said:

 

  On 7/22/2015 at 3:42 PM, Talya said:

Out of interest Hally, what is the result you get back...character or alignment etc?

This question has felt strange to me every time I have read it

Why is this strange when I'm a watcher and want to know about her role because there is doubt in my mind about this. Anyone claims you should ask questions.

It's more strange when she'd claimed two days before and you only ask after she's looked at you that you ask her what she can see.

 

Literally just rolled out of bed and this was the open page so I looked at this first. Going to wait till I wake up more before I try to dredge up stuff from this.

I didn't think about that, but I don't see how it's an issue.

 

Talya is proven watcher by knowing that Pral visited Hally.

[Razen]

  On 7/25/2015 at 1:10 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 7/25/2015 at 12:55 PM, Razen said:

That's weird. I know for a fact that I submitted a block on NB. I don't get a result back though, so I have no clue if it succeeds or not or if it even targets the person I submitted it on.

 

The only way it makes sense to me is if someone else has a redirect role. If it was NB, he wouldn't have been able to visit Hally, since I would have blocked the action from happening. The question is, who would have switched us? NB looked really, really bad yesterday because he was seen visiting Hally with Pral, and we know that Pral was the doctor. If you're town, you need to take responsibility for switching us. Because otherwise, it looks like scum have a bus driver or something out there.

 

I'm not liking this, because if my theory is correct, my roleblock prevented a kill. I don't see why mafia would holster in this situation, dead townies almost always benefit them. And since it looks like Hally was the one that ended up RB'ed...

Explain the bolded.

 

 

I was hasty.  I don't think I prevented anything.  The only way that any of this is making sense to me is if I got roleblocked last night.  Allowing NB's nightly activities to continue.  But that would mean we have to explain why we didn't have an NK.  And why they chose me over a pair of investigative roles.  And why Dice had an odd result.

[Razen]

I don't know the mechanics behind a bus driver, but theoretically, if it was NB, it wouldn't have happened.  At least I don't think it would have, since I did block him.  Don't you think it's weird that Dice, who Hally didn't get a result back for, told me to block NB if I was town?  I blocked NB, and now Hally didn't get a view, NB still got to go on a visit, and Dice's result is weird.  That doesn't seem like it's pro-town play to me.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I went no where last night.

 

Vote Razen

[Eldrick4221]

Your explanatuon

[Eldrick4221]

Your explanation is that you didn't do anything? Talya saw you visit Hally.

[Eldrick4221]

No it doesn't sound weird that dice told you to block him. It was the obvious choice.