British Monarchy Mafia- Game Over, Town Wins!!!

[John Snow]

Like I said, when someone has a real case on me, let me know. 

[Eldrick4221]

It's cute how you're trying to make that stick.

[Eldrick4221]

Like I said, when someone has a real case on me, let me know. 

I could say the same thing about me.

 

The biggest thing I've heard being said is that I'm jumpy. My playstyle is simply different. If you look back at my other games, you'll see that.

 

Dice referred to it as "stream of consciousness". That is actually very fitting.

[John Snow]

 

Like I said, when someone has a real case on me, let me know. 

I could say the same thing about me.

 

The biggest thing I've heard being said is that I'm jumpy. My playstyle is simply different. If you look back at my other games, you'll see that.

 

Dice referred to it as "stream of consciousness". That is actually very fitting.

 

 

The case is you were RB'd by a Un-CC'd cop's Town View and there was no NK. 

 

I didn't see any RB hints, so maf wouldn't have holstered for that. Their best move was to shoot a vig or hope for the doc, so we either have

a) Stupid mafia trying to shoot the obvious doc target

b) GOAT doc who outguessed the mafia

c) The NK submitter was RB'd. 

 

Personally I'm fond of theory C. 

[Eldrick4221]

The target wasn't obvious. It could have easily been either of the power roles claimed. It looks like the doc picked correctly.

 

And what will you think when I flip town?

[Eldrick4221]

I've done some thinking since I brought it up day 1. I think it's safe to say that Seph either has or knows about a non-standard role, which is why he said this was an advanced game.

[John Snow]

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Like I said, when someone has a real case on me, let me know. 

I could say the same thing about me.

 

The biggest thing I've heard being said is that I'm jumpy. My playstyle is simply different. If you look back at my other games, you'll see that.

 

Dice referred to it as "stream of consciousness". That is actually very fitting.

 

 

The case is you were RB'd by a Un-CC'd cop's Town View and there was no NK. 

 

I didn't see any RB hints, so maf wouldn't have holstered for that. Their best move was to shoot a vig or hope for the doc, so we either have

a) Stupid mafia trying to shoot the obvious doc target

b) GOAT doc who outguessed the mafia

c) The NK submitter was RB'd. 

 

Personally I'm fond of theory C. 

 

And what was the case on me before that? Notbob has been pushing for me most of the game, and I can't figure out why.

[Eldrick4221]

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

[Eldrick4221]

I still want to know who Hally viewed. Help us narrow the pool, please.

[John Snow]

NB's play has been trash in general. Actually, now that I think of it, I should ISO him. He's been pushing me "because WIFOM" for awhile iirc. 

 

I could definitely go that way tomorrow. 

[John Snow]

 

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

 

 

Not on your life. Same as I would never protect myself as an outed doc with a cop. +1 cop view > 50/50 shot of losing the cop or having no NK. 

 

Plus the best move would be for the mafia not to shoot the vig or the cop, and aim for the doc. 

[John Snow]

 

 

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

 

 

Not on your life. Same as I would never protect myself as an outed doc with a cop. +1 cop view > 50/50 shot of losing the cop or having no NK. 

 

Plus the best move would be for the mafia not to shoot the vig or the cop, and aim for the doc. 

[John Snow]

 

 

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

 

 

Not on your life. Same as I would never protect myself as an outed doc with a cop. +1 cop view > 50/50 shot of losing the cop or having no NK. 

 

Plus the best move would be for the mafia not to shoot the vig or the cop, and aim for the doc. 

[Talya]

Eld why aren't you going for Pral today?

 

I need Pral to answer that question.

 

I'm not believing it was the RB that stopped the kill, I wonder if the doc did, maybe someone thought they were RB the doc and didn't...

 

Another thought.

[John Snow]

:O Hallelujah DM is working

[John Snow]

Eld why aren't you going for Pral today?

 

I need Pral to answer that question.

 

I'm not believing it was the RB that stopped the kill, I wonder if the doc did, maybe someone thought they were RB the doc and didn't...

 

Another thought.

 

I thought of that, but Razen's cleared town. He could be GF, but it's 9 alive, 5 to lynch; ML puts us at 8-5, NK would be 7 alive, 4 to lynch (assuming it goes through). 4 Mafia would mean 5 starting which isn't unfeasible, but seems a bit high. 

 

 

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, if we have cop+doc+2 limited 1-shot vigs+RB, 5 starting mafia seems right unless they have ridiculous amounts of PRs. 

[John Snow]

ISO'ing NB in the AM. If memory serves that's a good spot to look. 

 

Night all. 

[Eldrick4221]

Eld why aren't you going for Pral today?

 

I need Pral to answer that question.

 

I'm not believing it was the RB that stopped the kill, I wonder if the doc did, maybe someone thought they were RB the doc and didn't...

 

Another thought.

Because I don't expect to get support. Pushing him without anyone else interested in going that way is pointless. I have made my reasons why it's suspicious.

 

This is not a scenario I expected, but it doesn't help his case. He could have died last night, and yet he still didn't shoot. It's highly unlikely he shot the same person the mafia shot and the doc protected.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Eld why aren't you going for Pral today?

 

I need Pral to answer that question.

 

I'm not believing it was the RB that stopped the kill, I wonder if the doc did, maybe someone thought they were RB the doc and didn't...

 

Another thought.

 

I thought of that, but Razen's cleared town. He could be GF, but it's 9 alive, 5 to lynch; ML puts us at 8-5, NK would be 7 alive, 4 to lynch (assuming it goes through). 4 Mafia would mean 5 starting which isn't unfeasible, but seems a bit high. 

 

 

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, if we have cop+doc+2 limited 1-shot vigs+RB, 5 starting mafia seems right unless they have ridiculous amounts of PRs. 

 

When I first got on and saw that Razen claimed to have RB'd me, it smelt of a setup for lylo. This would mean that Hally was lying or Razen is GF.

 

I ran the numbers expecting there to be 4 total mafia, and realized that this isn't lylo.

 

But, if there are 5 total because of town-heavy roles, that WOULD make this lylo.

 

[unvote]

[v]Razen[/v]

 

He has been suspicious to several people, yet he is cleared by the cop. Has the workings of being a GF.

The RB trap is horrible, but of course I'm the only one that knows it's a trap, so whatever.

 

If there are 5 mafia, and you lynch me, we lose. Safest course of action is to lynch the possible GF.

[Eldrick4221]

Well...me and the mafia, but I doubt they're gonna admit they know.

[John Snow]

A) not sure if 5 mafia would be right if we don't have an rb

B) (more importantly) we still have a cop, 2 1-shot vigs, and a doc (maybe). Even if you're town, this isn't game.

 

 

And I'm never going to get to sleep if I keep checking my phone. I know better than this >.>

[Eldrick4221]

I do that too :P

[Eldrick4221]

A) not sure if 5 mafia would be right if we don't have an rb

B) (more importantly) we still have a cop, 2 1-shot vigs, and a doc (maybe). Even if you're town, this isn't game.

 

 

And I'm never going to get to sleep if I keep checking my phone. I know better than this >.>

It's pretty close to it. 9 alive, 4 being mafia. Lynch me and it's 4 maf and 4 town (2 of which are vig). It would come down to vig shots.

[dicetosser1]

 

[v]JS[/v]

 

He claimed vig for the sole reason to get reactions. He ended up drawing out another vig claim. Don't know if this was intended or not, but it's still bad either way.

His reason for the vig claim was to promote activity, yet after the day of DM being down, his activity dropped significantly. His excuse is he forgot.

He was one of the people on the speed lynch of Zander. His reason for voting was self preservation.

 

This is the way to go, and his lynch will be informative being the sway went from him to Zander really quickly. We can look at that if he flips mafia, and see what we can determine from that.

 

A) Nothing wrong with my play. Wasn't anticipated a CC, because the only reason to CC would be multi vigs. Exceptionally bad luck. 

B) Shit happens. 

C) I know I am 100% town, and had no read on Zander. Statistically favorable vote. 

 

And IIRC pushing lynches "for info" is a mafia thing. 

 

 

Red  try again. Reason to CC is also that you arnt the vig and the vig is stoopid.

 

 

 

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

 

 

Blue  Dont EVER say that to cory or AJ. thats jack D doccing and gets cops killed

 

 

 

You're saying, as a doc, there's any way in hell you'd protect the 1-shot limited vig over the cop?

 

And if you flip town I'm going to assume that the mafia is either monumentally stupid or they holstered for some reason. I'm disinclined to believe that the doc was that good. 

That's exactly the wifom that could have happened. I could very well have protected the vig, expecting the mafia to believe i was protecting the cop.

 

 

Not on your life. Same as I would never protect myself as an outed doc with a cop. +1 cop view > 50/50 shot of losing the cop or having no NK. 

 

Plus the best move would be for the mafia not to shoot the vig or the cop, and aim for the doc. 

 

 

I would and have. Csarmi and I wifomed the hell out of mafia including not protecting the cop one night. there were circumstances tho that made that more possible

 

 

Eld why aren't you going for Pral today?

 

I need Pral to answer that question.

 

I'm not believing it was the RB that stopped the kill, I wonder if the doc did, maybe someone thought they were RB the doc and didn't...

 

Another thought.

 

I thought of that, but Razen's cleared town. He could be GF, but it's 9 alive, 5 to lynch; ML puts us at 8-5, NK would be 7 alive, 4 to lynch (assuming it goes through). 4 Mafia would mean 5 starting which isn't unfeasible, but seems a bit high. 

 

 

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, if we have cop+doc+2 limited 1-shot vigs+RB, 5 starting mafia seems right unless they have ridiculous amounts of PRs. 

 

 

Razen is NOT cleared town. Advanced game good chance of GF.